Weekly Touhou Best Topic Round 2 Part 4

[Reiko]

Any shottype with Master Spark ever !

MarisaA in EoSD or PCB.
Both for the reasons the others mentioned.

[Star King]

top tier IaMP Marisa

SA MarisaB is the coolest/has the best design

PoFV Marisa is the best shot-type (she and Reimu dominate Japanese PoFV tournaments)

EoSD MarisaA is the best shot-type for "standard" Touhou games (6 stages blahblahblah)

[Sakurei]

I have to go with PoFV marisa, too. for reasons Zil already mentioned.

every other Marisa shottype is shit. I've been playing them on normal to, you know, unlock the extra stages for them and fuck, they're bad. :V she's terrible forever. just saying.

but I have to agree: EoSD MarisaA is pretty neat for a marisa shottype. but, really, the extra stage is easier with her than it is with ReimuB? that's...wat?

[Validon98]

PCB MarisaA, for the same reason as previous people.

[Oh]

EoSD MarisaA or PCB MarisaA
Because power. Well ZUN did balance them with either a horrid Patchy fight or one less starting bomb.

[K.B.]

Mitori.

pitter-patter-pitter-patter-pitter-patter-pitter-patter



edit: that question was a bad idea.  instead...

What's your favorite attack to graze/supergraze?

Hope that hasn't been asked, whoops if it has.  Felt obligated to put something here with the bump and all.

[Kaze_Senshi]

Mitori.

pitter-patter-pitter-patter-pitter-patter-pitter-patter



edit: that question was a bad idea.  instead...

What's your favorite attack to graze/supergraze?

Hope that hasn't been asked, whoops if it has.  Felt obligated to put something here with the bump and all.

Futo-chan's last spellcard is cool to graze, also the IN extra stage fairies at its very start are cool too because them give you 3k of graze in 20 seconds :V

[I have no name]

Marine Benefit extra boss Reimu edition with ReimuA 9th spellcard.
BOMBFORGRAZE
+1 life
BOMBFORGAZREAGAIN
+1life
suicide
repeat until timeout

[Phlegeth]

Utsuho's non-spells where she just throws a stream of balls.

[Avakyon]

This card from Yuyuko, one of the more interesting supergrazes because it isn't sitting still in a safespot/invincibility abuse.

[Validon98]

Hmm, off the top of my head just Naruko's stuff in general from Marine Benefit, particularly her last card. There might be something else, though.

[Zil]

My experience with this is limited, but I'll say Chen's final attack in PCB Extra. Some of Ran's spells are also good choices, since that stage is just full of fun grazing. It made me really see the potential of the whole graze idea after SA initially turned me off from it.

Also the fairies in MS stage 1. Those are awesome.

[RNG]

- EoSD grazing. It's a fact that doing the useless Rumia head-graze makes the run 25% more pro. Her boss first non is also pretty aggressive to graze, it's cool (though too luck-dependent).
- The end of PCB Stage 2. Timing a border and grazing all that stuff without moving is so cool.
- SA Stage 3 laser orbs are cool to macrododge around. Looks real fine.

[Wriggle]

SA Stage 4 spreading amulets before they spread, and the dense lasers things.

[Sakurei]

I graze in PoFV. am I doing it right? :V

but on a more serious note: Shin's ichirin midboss graze is so badass. it gives me a boner; metaphorically speaking. though, I can't dothat myself. HURR DURR.

touhou grazing is really boring for the most part. MS stage 1 wall fairies are cool, as Zil said, but the series doesn't have anything similar to that. at least not to my knowledge. the closest we get is TD stage 4 opener, but that's too fast to graze like MS stage 1 walls :V
ZUN needs to workd on that, really. Grazing Nazrin's nons is pretty cool, I guess. but I really can't think of more than that.

[vctrz]

Choosing just one hurts.
一条戻り橋: Keine's second card in IN's Extra, lots of fun. My favorite overall.
木菟咆哮: Mystia's first spell, quite mesmerizing and looks great.
三種の神器郷: Keine's 4th (I think) spell in Stage 3, staying still and watching those orbs fly never felt so good.
蓬莱の玉: Hourai Jewel aka rainbow vomit. Higher difficulty = more fun.

Reimu's Super Duplex Barrier, at least for the first few seconds and Reimu's very last spell in her stage is also quite fun. Xu-Fu's, Hourai Doll and Imperishable Shooting also deserve a mention, but not Honest Man's.

[PMW]

Sanae's first spell in SA extra, flying around like a madman grazing those lasers is real cool  :V

[Makedounia]

Utsuho's non-spells where she just throws a stream of balls.

[ARF]

I love Utsuho's opener and third non-spell. Totally my favorite attacks to supergraze, and they are the most graze intensive attacks in the entire series that I can think of.

[Zengeku]

Any spell from MoF

[Kaze_Senshi]

Any spell from MoF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opT_JGssUVk

[Zengeku]

Okay, let's be serious then. I usually don't graze because it's a stupid gameplay mechanic I haven't taken the time to learn some IN yet but I guess I can at least post my favorite super grazes just from watching replays. In other words, things that I haven't got the slightest chance of actually pulling off because they are the stuff of actually good players.

Ichirin super-grazing. Just what the fuck. I look at that thing and I cannot comprehend how the fuck they can do that. I cannot even see what the hell is going on yet they do it so excellently. Especially if the 'they' refers to Shin.

Nazrin's Gold Detector. What do you get when you take a stupid easy pattern and try to super graze it? You get the Gold Detector super graze. Probably a hell of a lot more manageable than any of the Ichirin graze stuff but it's almost number 1 to come to mind whenever i think of reasons why UFO handles grazing better than SA. And in this case also how it handles point-blanking better than Ten Desires even though that games' Stage 1 boss has it's own badass spot but that's a super grazing thing so it's not on here.

I should probably also make mentions of stuff from IN or PCB being the most, to quote RNG, grazy games in this series but I don't know enough about those except that most of it is badass as hell.

[Sen]

Yuyuko's Repository of Hirokawa -Divine Soul-

Because goddamn, let's just double my graze count near the end of Stage 6 :V

[Karisa]

I cannot even see what the hell is going on yet they do it so excellently. Especially if the 'they' refers to Shin.

I think Ichirin's nonspells are all position-static. Either one pattern, or alternating between two. Not that I know how to supergraze them myself (the only one I have an idea of is her first boss nonspell, but not consistently, and that one's the most obvious anyway), but I've watched like every one of shin's records since the Hard 3 billion runs, and they seem to involve the same movement every time, relative to Ichirin's position. So perhaps it's a sort of muscle memory?

To answer the question: Too many to decide. I'll say anything that's doable consistently with enough skill/practice. That is, not the Shinki luckgraze. Especially not the Easy version of it.

[chum]

Funeral Concert (PCB 4)  supergraze looks really elaborate and awesome.

As for favourite graze to actually perform, I guess I don't really know enough to have much of an opinion. Anything where you just sit in a safespot (or move only a tiny bit) is out though. So e.g. Ichirin's first non supergraze is just a pain, and Eternal Meek grazing is dumb. Deadly Dance (PCB 6) looks cool, is fun, and not super hard. I think I'll go with that! I guess a large portion of the coolest grazes are in PCB after all!

[Star King]

Flowery Soul "Butterfly Delusion".

[Yatakarasu]

Utsuho's non-spells where she just throws a stream of balls.

Same. Mainly cause I'm a shit grazer.  :V

[Limian]

let's revive this

Which stage 1 or 2 theme is your favourite?

These are usually the themes that are most likely to slip under the radar, but of course (ZUN being ZUN) there are a lot of really good tracks here.
Some of my favourites here are Dimension of Reverie (MS s2 theme), The Refrain of the Great Lovely War (FW s1 theme), Song of the Night Sparrow, The Fantastic Legend of Tohno and Ghostly Eyes, but the one that probably sticks out most to me is Romantic Fall at the moment. The piano part at Shizuha's entrance and the romantic (aha) main melody are the things that have won me over recently. Seriously, listen to a piano cover of this, it's beautiful.

[Alicirno]

Paradise ~ Deep Mountain for favourite Stage 1 theme and favourite Stage 1/2 theme. It's so beautiful.
The Road of the Apotropaic God ~ Dark Road/Song of the Night Sparrow  for favourite Stage 2 theme.

[Kosachi]

At the end of spring (UFO Stage 1)is one of my favorites along with sealed cloud route(UFO Stage 2). But my absolute favorite would go to a soul as deep as ground cherry (EoSD Stage 1)