Author Topic: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F  (Read 227999 times)

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #600 on: April 20, 2013, 12:17:36 AM »
Whoa, thanks! I had no idea that the artist for all of these images had a website that has every single one of them on there. Just... wow.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #602 on: April 20, 2013, 12:57:28 AM »
Yeah! I'm really excited to see how the second will turn out. It's a drastic step up in terms of aesthetics (It looks so modern and touched-up) and looks to have much more in terms of depth by taking some pages from Etrian Odyssey, whilst still being very much Touhou Labyrinth.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #603 on: April 20, 2013, 03:09:58 AM »
Hey now, just because a new game has come out doesn't mean no one ever plays the old ones again. I still pick up Etrian Odyssey 2 and 3 from time to time, and have even been considering playing EO1 again.

And new portraits are always welcome.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #604 on: April 20, 2013, 02:47:26 PM »
Oh, certainly! I'll probably replay ThLaby1 yet again eventually, too.

I think EO1 is just too outdated for me, though >.o And horribly broken. I watched a stream and it was just... okay, so all bosses and FOEs do single digit damage except for maybe the superbosses because Immunize+Defender is crazy unbalanced, and combat is super slug speed.

EO2 though I might play through eventually. Unlike EO3 I haven't watched someone else play the whole thing already which makes that harder for me to finish (I got to stratum 4 and petered off)
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #605 on: April 22, 2013, 10:40:14 PM »
Whats the general Opinion or usefullness of mystia?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #606 on: April 22, 2013, 10:45:03 PM »
Whats the general Opinion or usefullness of mystia?
One of the best characters in the game, works well with any team.  Fast, solid damage, Mysterious Song is a ++ and Posionous Moth's Dark Dance has target all paralysis almost on PAR with Suwako.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #607 on: April 22, 2013, 11:16:55 PM »
Mystia is a top tier character and one of our bans for draft mode, so yeah. Only thing holding her back is late join time in a normal game. In a New Game +, she's an all-star.

Her fast leveling rate combined with decent stat growths make for a fast attacker who can still take a hit or two. Ill-starred Dive has an above-average damage formula for its low delay. She has the second-strongest multi-target paralysis spell in the game with Dark Moth's Dance, and Midnight Chorus Master has a nuke-level damage formula, mitigated only by her slightly below average attack power. Mysterious Song rounds her out with exceptional utility on a semi-unique effect. Add to all that her incredible status resistances, and you've got a fast and easy-to-use powerhouse.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #608 on: April 23, 2013, 03:06:35 AM »
New blog post but it's just rambling, nothing relevant to Labyrinth 2.

While unimpressive in boss fights (unless you need someone to cure status, especially debuffs) Mystia is amazing in random battles thanks to a very fast, reasonably strong paralysis + poison spell.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #609 on: April 23, 2013, 02:18:58 PM »
And Mystia is still alright in boss battles (Whether attacking while trying to land PAR or just using her somewhat spammable Ill-Starred Dive, since Mystia isn't exactly durable but should be able to take a hit)
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #610 on: April 23, 2013, 09:23:56 PM »
Finally collected every item in the item except winner drop, after a day of grinding a got a nice amount of Inmortal school badges and rhedoheron dresses and around 1-3 of each egg, necronomicon and exoskeleton and 1 psycho gun, And lastly Testing to see if its better to replace orin with Shanghai alice or not        EDIT: its a tie between yuyuko,rinnosuke,alice,yuuka,yukari and mokou to grab the last slot,any ideas deciding?

Ended up picking yuyuko due to her great nuke and low delay after using it,  plus her MND tank capabilities
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 02:40:53 PM by DarkAtma »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #611 on: April 26, 2013, 09:25:03 PM »
Mystia is a top tier character and one of our bans for draft mode, so yeah. Only thing holding her back is late join time in a normal game. In a New Game +, she's an all-star.

Her fast leveling rate combined with decent stat growths make for a fast attacker who can still take a hit or two. Ill-starred Dive has an above-average damage formula for its low delay. She has the second-strongest multi-target paralysis spell in the game with Dark Moth's Dance, and Midnight Chorus Master has a nuke-level damage formula, mitigated only by her slightly below average attack power. Mysterious Song rounds her out with exceptional utility on a semi-unique effect. Add to all that her incredible status resistances, and you've got a fast and easy-to-use powerhouse.

Wait wut.. what is this "draft mode" you speak of.. you're not talking about that speedplay effort are you?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #612 on: April 27, 2013, 12:03:25 AM »
Wait wut.. what is this "draft mode" you speak of.. you're not talking about that speedplay effort are you?
The draft teams were a fun idea where 3 people take turns picking characters (the best few get banned) and play through the game using only the 12 characters they picked.

In the draft I was a part of Mystia was my first pick and she's proven, alongside main tank Keine, to be MVP.  and Utsuho isn't useless either.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #613 on: April 28, 2013, 04:13:43 AM »
The draft teams were a fun idea where 3 people take turns picking characters (the best few get banned) and play through the game using only the 12 characters they picked.

In the draft I was a part of Mystia was my first pick and she's proven, alongside main tank Keine, to be MVP.  and Utsuho isn't useless either.

Except mystia is banned so? I mean did people not know she was pretty op then? Everyone here knew she was as far as I can remember?
So uhh. 3 people pick 4 characters each and all 3 have to play those chosen characters? or does one person pick 12 for player 2, who picks 12 for player 3... or?

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #614 on: April 28, 2013, 04:37:36 AM »
As far as I understood, everybody decides four people to be banned (I think the normal is Meiling/Iku/Nitori/Renko, with one of them being replaced by mystia somewhere) and then people decide which 12 are going to be their party.

I should do that sometime, once I get my access to LoT back, though the loss of my Plus-Disk save file kinda took my will to play this away.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #615 on: April 28, 2013, 05:04:46 AM »
As far as I understood, everybody decides four people to be banned (I think the normal is Meiling/Iku/Nitori/Renko, with one of them being replaced by mystia somewhere) and then people decide which 12 are going to be their party.
Pretty much.  Ban the OP characters, and from there the remaining 36 are drafted.  (or in the case of the draft I was part of, everyone got Reimu so no one got screwed and 6 characters were banned-Mystia was debated but overall left in)  It's pretty interesting, though the team I got has a lot of nuking power and survivability, it's almost too easy >_>

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #616 on: April 29, 2013, 12:02:58 AM »
Noticed another flaw in the database, Yukari V3 dropped a imortal school badge even before using a single djinn storm, so that means you can go nuts on her instead of stall until she uses barrier change twice for the drop

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #617 on: April 29, 2013, 12:19:44 AM »
Noticed another flaw in the database, Yukari V3 dropped a imortal school badge even before using a single djinn storm, so that means you can go nuts on her instead of stall until she uses barrier change twice for the drop

Same with Rinnosuke, if you weren't aware.

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #618 on: April 29, 2013, 12:45:01 AM »
Talking about easy battle, Renko PAR locked winner to death, while marisa,flandre and kaguya spamed their nukes on his face, Now i have finally finished the game for first time  :toot: Estimated time about 85+ Hours and 5700+ battles, now to cheese that winner drop so i have completed my item list

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #619 on: April 29, 2013, 12:53:09 AM »
What level is that party  ???
My Meiling had 170k less HP...

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #620 on: April 29, 2013, 12:54:21 AM »
Meiling Lv615 with Full hp build?  :3

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« Last Edit: April 29, 2013, 12:56:19 AM by DarkAtma »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #621 on: April 29, 2013, 12:58:21 AM »
Ah, my Meiling was level 5xx, I beat WINNER with Reimu at level 600 :V

I also didn't ever use PAR or debuffing in my fight :3

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #622 on: April 29, 2013, 12:59:52 AM »
I honestly didnt expected to even inflict PAR on him due to his high resist, Man i felt like i wasted my time hunting for rare drops for several days  :V, Next time i will do it without galaxy stop

Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #623 on: April 29, 2013, 01:24:22 PM »
I have a problem with Nitori.
Of course I encountered her on 7F while walking in there, but by some stupid mistake and panic I rushed the "Escape" button, because I thought she will nuke me HARD and I just wanted to go sightseeing. Later while playing I had an event with her in he southwest part of the level without beating her. I've just beaten Reisen and visit 7F from time to time for random fights - is it still possible for me to meet Nitori or did the event with her seal away that opportunity?

EDIT: ok, I randomly went to 8F and encountered her as the first foe. xD
« Last Edit: April 29, 2013, 06:09:13 PM by zygol69 »

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #624 on: April 29, 2013, 08:31:58 PM »
The way Nitori works is to unlock her boss fight on 9F, you have to encounter her on 7F, trigger the event with her on 7F, encounter her on 8F, trigger the event with her on 8F.  If you don't beat her when you randomly encounter her, you miss out on the (random) fight permanently.

Not defeating the 7F fight only denies you a Polymer Liqui (DEF +30%) item.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #625 on: May 02, 2013, 01:43:58 PM »
Who do you think are the "Least used" or "Least helpful" characters? I want to try running through the game only using them, no grinding up to floor 20.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #626 on: May 02, 2013, 03:45:13 PM »
Mokou and Utsuho for sure. Also Eirin. After that it's harder because the border between useful and useless depends on who else is in your team and whether you're at early, mid, or postgame.

I think you'd care more about "Terrible in maingame" characters here, which would include Rumia, Yuyuko, Aya, Sakuya is kind of alright but it's not like there's 12 horrible people anyway so there you go. Sanae is the terrible healer in comparison to Minoriko (You need -a- healer)

I guess Maribel, Kanako, and Yuuka are all kind of eh in comparison to the other, better choices you could be making (Plus restricted a lot in maingame by their sp costs designed for postgame; Maribel/Yuuka each have an acceptably low cost skill to compensate at least).

At that point you need just one more member, which honestly should be Reimu so you don't get murdered. Might consider swapping one or two other members for Keine as a decent tank and atk/mag buffer, Suika is an alright character but I don't think she ever really gets used because there's stronger options once everyone started using Iku, or just anyone who could be a nice tank but isn't Meiling or Tenshi.
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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #627 on: May 02, 2013, 04:12:19 PM »
I made a list a bit ago ranking the characters from most useful to least useful, a lot were really close but my bottom twelve were:
Orin Sanae Wriggle Cirno
Chen Maribel Tenshi Eirin
Kanako Yuuka Mokou Utsuho
A lot of these are here just because they're outclassed by someone else, like Sanae is outclassed by Reimu and Minoriko, Chen is outclassed by Mystia etc.  Wriggle, Tenshi and Eirin look like the first slotters in that team.

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #628 on: May 02, 2013, 06:59:19 PM »
I made a list a bit ago ranking the characters from most useful to least useful, a lot were really close but my bottom twelve were:
Tenshi

I don't know if I played the game wrong or something, but Tenshi was in my top 5 of "I will never ever ever let you go" team members. I know she's outclassed by Komachi in a few ways, but in a general way, Tenshi is a far better choice for bosses; Not a whole lot of them tend to use defense piercing moves, and those who do may sometime rarely use them at all. Plus, she's insanely easy to heal; And that's only if you forgot to turn on her self-buff, because if you didn't, she won't get damage higher than single, maybe double digits.
All in all, Tenshi is an angel sent from the heaven called "OP World".

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Re: Labyrinth of Touhou 9F
« Reply #629 on: May 02, 2013, 07:08:30 PM »
I don't know if I played the game wrong or something, but Tenshi was in my top 5 of "I will never ever ever let you go" team members. I know she's outclassed by Komachi in a few ways, but in a general way, Tenshi is a far better choice for bosses; Not a whole lot of them tend to use defense piercing moves, and those who do may sometime rarely use them at all. Plus, she's insanely easy to heal; And that's only if you forgot to turn on her self-buff, because if you didn't, she won't get damage higher than single, maybe double digits.
All in all, Tenshi is an angel sent from the heaven called "OP World".
Defense piercing/ignoring moves say hi.
Besides, she's severely severely outclassed by Meiling and has next to no damage output.  She's situationally useful, but outside of those situations I found her to be dead weight.  Meiling also has next to no damage output, but heals herself AND can cure statuses.  Tenshi has that Sword of Rapture thing that randomly removes enemy buffs but it's a crapshoot.