Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition

[Seppo Hovi]

I use Youmu since I usually play her when I play PvP.

And Youmu is the best 2hu.

[BT]

As his conditions are no-focus and no-charge (along with constantly shooting for no sane reason), I think he's using her for optimal silliness.

Oh okay then. &_&

[Oh]

How are you supposed to do Patchy as MarisaA? I died on 4 of her 5 spells (6 deaths in total on stage 4). I have the feeling that I'd get the clear if I pull off a good Patchy fight or something.

e:
So I decide to do a "legit"(no intentionally broken borders) with MarisaA. Horrible. Horrible Yuyuko. I get so nervous going in with only one miss. I failed her opener, third non, that streaming spell, and that spell after it.

[chum]

1M0B Shou. Dead to second non.

These two pictures should illustrate how stupid that death was.



I'm safe, right? I dodged it... Shou has hardly any health left, just finish off the non and cruise to victory, the rest of her spells aren't hard.



...Oh.

[Chuckolator]

1M0B Shou. Dead to second non.

These two pictures should illustrate how stupid that death was.



I'm safe, right? I dodged it... Shou has hardly any health left, just finish off the non and cruise to victory, the rest of her spells aren't hard.



...Oh.

Ouch, that sucks, and on Shou of all bosses. That's why I always ragequit after things like that, so I never know if I would have gone on to perfect it. <_<

edit: I can't get past 3 pictures in StB 9-1 no focus. It's fun though.

[Chuckolator]

I, for one, blame everyone else on MotK for not raging in the last 4 hours.

[chum]

Ouch, that sucks, and on Shou of all bosses. That's why I always ragequit after things like that, so I never know if I would have gone on to perfect it. <_<

I'm a bit conflicted when it comes to this. It's a mood thing, sometimes I'll reset, other times I'll keep going just to "make something out of the attempt" or just for the hell of it. It's kind of a bad feeling though, like how I've captured Killing Doll plenty of times in full runs or when dicking around, but never in an actual NMNB attempt...

Complete Clarification seems like it could hurt a lot when I'm nervous. I hope I won't fail there too much during attempts  :ohdear:

[Zil]

That's the last time I lose ten chains in a single PoFV run to this fucking thing.

[chirpy13]

Wow, LLS Marisa's a cheating son of a bitch on Lunatic.  Random attack cycle, random movement, continues attacking but with a completely different attack when you destroy her orreries, and some of her phases are flat-out impossible to dodge depending on where she is on the screen when she decides to use them.  Bad design, ZUN!! =|

EDIT: You would.
EDIT2: ^That happened again.

[Cor]

I just barely (1/2) cleared UFO Lunatic with MarisaA, my second-best shot. I felt super odd during the run. I just wasn't into the game, felt like I was sitting wrong, looking at the screen wrong, my eyes were all over the screen and I sporadically kept forgetting how to do parts of the game halfway into the run. Weird. Maybe I should look into getting back into RuneScape. I do have the sniffles, but it sure shouldn't do this to me.

[Chalros22]

This isn't SA, how do you have so many graze points?

9000 isn't really that many I dont think. I just checked a few various WR's on different games including PCB and these were the amounts of graze.

EoSD: at least 25k. I didn't watch this one, but I can remember the least the thousands digit on each level since it resets on each stage.
PCB: 26k, with 10k of it on Yuyuko.
I didnt count IN because graze is calculated weird
MoF doesnt have a counter.
SA: just under 90k
UFO: 114k
I didnt bother checking TD.

So yeah, 9k isn't that much lol. As a reference, my first Lunatic 1cc of PCB had about 4700 graze, and I was running in terror from bullets, not trying to graze them for score, at least for the most part.

[RNG]

I just barely (1/2) cleared UFO Lunatic with MarisaA, my second-best shot. I felt super odd during the run. I just wasn't into the game, felt like I was sitting wrong, looking at the screen wrong, my eyes were all over the screen and I sporadically kept forgetting how to do parts of the game halfway into the run. Weird. Maybe I should look into getting back into RuneScape. I do have the sniffles, but it sure shouldn't do this to me.

NOOOO keep playing shmups. If you get tired of UFO move on to another one. Works for me.

[チソウ タイゼン]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa


in migrating to my new computer I've managed to roll back ALL MY TOUHOU SAVE FILES A YEAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR

1.7 Billion IN Extra: Gone
300 Million SA Lunatic: Gone
600 Million PCB Lunatic: Gone
992 Million PCB Normal: Gone


:colonveeplusalpha:
:fail:
:V
:colonveeplusalpha:

[Delfigamer]

Now I'm fffrustrated with the Mystery of Disco Fish. How the hell she aims her fishes in DS 10-2?

After ~30 tries I finally managed to do this. I wonder if I'll see her danmaku in my next nighmare. -_-

[Wriggle]

Yesterday I died TWICE to Superego, but perfected the whole rest of the battle. How the fuck...? And also failed miserably to both Embers of Love and Genectics of the Subconcious with Reimu-C, who should be pretty optimal due to the aimable shot.

Oh and fought Yukari with the laptop on my legs. :V Did 12/13, but still kinda a fail because I failed in her second card, that is almost trivial.

[I have no name]

Now I'm fffrustrated with the Mystery of Disco Fish. How the hell she aims her fishes in DS 10-2?

They're aimed at your position at the sound effect of the set being fired.  Just be at the same part of the pattern of the lattice you were in when they were fired and they miss.  Good job on getting it without this though.

[Yatakarasu]

Asdfjasdlfkjsdfl So much for that lunatic attempt. I hate the AI in PoFV so much. I wish I saved that replay because Aya was being ridiculous, lost 2 lives to her.

[Reiko]

IN Lunatic:
> first death in stage 1, tons of deathbombs, game over in stage 4.

SA Hard, MarisaA:
> game over at Yuugi.

PoFV Hard, Reisen edition:
> 2 deaths to stage 7, game over before even reaching Shikieiki

UFO normal, MarisaA:
> max lives after Murasa
> dies/bombs everything else, game over at last spell as usual

And so on, and so on.
I won't even comment on how bad I did when I tried other shooting games.
It feels like I'm not getting any better at anything. I'm still struggling to things I cleared months ago...

On the fun side : I tried scoring in PCB normal and got a lower score than at my first 1cc with the same character  :V

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa


in migrating to my new computer I've managed to roll back ALL MY TOUHOU SAVE FILES A YEAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR

Oh man, that really sucks...

[Sakurei]

It feels like I'm not getting any better at anything. I'm still struggling to things I cleared months ago...

well, let me tell you this. my first hard clear was EoSD. my second hard clear was PCB; like 1 year later. it also took me 1 1/2 to ever clear EoSD again.

similarly with lunatic. my first 1cc was TD in december 2011, my second was in july. don't feel bad about not being able to clear things in fast succession at first.

[Ridley 64]

*game overs at beginning of Stage 5, continue-spams to try and unlock for practice*

*never gets to Shou with more than one life*

*makes it past RTG once, game overs to Vajra*


...I don't know...

[Tsym]

Well I came back after a week... And what do you know? Nothing's changed. Well damn. Also after a few more attempts at the Lunatic clear, I've now officially clocked in more attempts at this as SanaeA than SanaeB. Woohoo? I kind of get the feeling that my biggest barrier is stage 1. I mean I'm just looking at the spell card histories and... well damn.

Times Used - 257 (Total) - 17 (Easy + Normal + Hard) = 240 (Lunatic)
Busy Rod - 65/90 | 37.5% of runs make it here
Gold Detector - 35/54 | 60% of runs make it past the previous card
Pendulum Guard - 35/45 | 80% of runs make it past the previous card
Hello Forgotten World - 22/36 | 80% of runs make it past the previous card
PSM - 1/32 | 89% of runs make it past the previous card
Kogasa Final - 3/31
...
King Kraken Strike - 4/20 | 64.5% of runs make it past the previous card
Ichirin Final - 4/18
...
Sinking Anchor - 15/15 | 83% of runs make it past the previous card
Dipper Creeping Close - 8/15
...
RTG - 0/14 | 93% of runs make it past the previous card
CC - 1/10
Cloudy Way in Purple - 0/4 | 40% of runs make it past the previous card
LFS - 0/1

Is this normal or am I just terrible at stage 1/restarting too much? Aside from stage 1, the only two glaring points are from Shou to Byakuren (probably due to stage 5 practice) and from stage 2 to stage 3 (I really have no idea why this is so lop-sided. Perhaps it's due to the circling bit before Ichirin? I dunno). But I can definitely feel stage 1 sapping my soul, while everything else feels rather tame by comparison.

[Cor]

Stage 1 is a shit. At least was for me, for whatever it's worth. If in doubt of your skill, just compare to me. Works any time.

[Chuckolator]

UFO Stage 1 is best run

Spoiler:

90FPS

[Chalros22]

It feels like I'm not getting any better at anything. I'm still struggling to things I cleared months ago...

Take a break then. I took like a month and a half off from trying to clear anything difficult and tried some stuff on normal with extra conditions. When I finally said wtf I'll try lunatic again, I cleared IN, PCB and TD for the first time each in like a week and a half. Of course, my next lunatic was today (LLS) about 3 months later, but I have made improvements in the other ones. The thing I mainyl did recently to increase my skills was to try to do a lot of no bomb runs on extras and no bomb no focus on normals. Sometimes I think it's best if people take a break from increasing the difficulty mechanically and do it more "artificially" by imposing conditions on each run. It still results in a sense of achievement on completion and helps develop skills as well. Especially no focus PCB since a few of the shot types are ridiculously weak unfocused (SakuyaA, illusion laser) compared to focused.

If UFO is giving you trouble, do some stage practice and work on Shou's nonspells. That's what gave me the most trouble when I first tried to do normal. That and Vajra. the rest isn't so bad.

[Zengeku]

UFO Stage 1 is best run

Spoiler:

90FPS

It's unfortunate that you can't change the framerate for the game on certain parts of the game only. Stage 1 at 90FPS is great fun yeah. That stage could benefit greatly from a 50% increase in bullet speed.

[Jaimers]

It's unfortunate that you can't change the framerate for the game on certain parts of the game only.

You can actually.

Spoiler:

Cheatengine

[Zengeku]

Maybe.  :V I haven't used that program much at all since it for some reason won't let me run with my alternate key-bindings while using it.

[K.B.]

Past Busy Rod: 28%
To the start of stage 2: 10%
To the start of stage 3: 4%
To the start of stage 4: 1%

Tsym, you are a padawan at restarting.

[Sakurei]

who else knows this!?

game of rising spell practice: 30/34
in actual runs: 20/58 (or something like that

apollo 13 spell practice: 27/53
Actual runs: 5/30

astronomical entombing spell practice: 20/46
in actual runs: 2/26

well, fuck you eirin.

genealogy and omoikane's brain are pretty similar, though. and I don't mind earth in a pot since I've gotten a lot better at it through many failures in actual runs, but still, FUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Zengeku]

Typically, when I go from practice to full runs, my performance isn't quite as high. I can easily imagine the same concept applying to going from Spell Practice to actual runs.