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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #870 on: May 27, 2013, 02:20:03 AM »
I am at 13/20. It's fairly clippy and if you get caught with jellybeans in your vicinity then it can be a bit mean.

Hate to sound like a smartass, but I think "keep an eye on the jellybeans and try to dodge around or between the largest gap you can find" will have to suffice as a solution. Sorry.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #871 on: May 27, 2013, 07:41:36 AM »
Jellybeans are 100% hitbox so there's really no surprise there. Bad Cirno, using jellybeans.

Just keep to one 'lane' for each wave while keeping the fuck away from the jellybeans. You shouldn't need to last more than two, two and a half waves.

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« Reply #872 on: May 27, 2013, 01:59:42 PM »
She's a bit more clippy than usual for me because I barely use focus to keep her dropping power items. :V

Also, it's annoying how the Stage Practice doesn't work. I want to practice on the werewolf, I can only capture her boss spell.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #873 on: May 27, 2013, 03:02:55 PM »
Shit...

I had a LNB run of DDC trial reach Kagerou with one 1+ 2/3 lives and I had died three times before that. Only once on the midboss spell and twice on Stage 2. Twice on Stage 2!!
I had a real shot at clearing this thing LNB with ReimuB but no. Have to be a shit-tier player who can't dodge for shit. Obviously.

Geez, Kagerou. I love your fight but damn you are bullying me. Can you become the next Shou? Do I need to make room in my heart for you as well?
... And what will happen with the rest of the games bosses. I am officially scared. In a good way. I'd rather have a hardass game I can't beat than a boring one I can beat!

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« Reply #874 on: May 27, 2013, 03:22:53 PM »
Quote
... And what will happen with the rest of the games bosses. I am officially scared. In a good way. I'd rather have a hardass game I can't beat than a boring one I can beat!
Stage 3 just reminded me how wonderful rape is.

How2goty DDC:
- buff stage 1 and 2
- fix shot types other than Reimu B you shouldn't be using them anyway
- make the remaining bosses harder than Kagerou so that I can drink the UFOsux race's tears one more time
- make the extra stage harder than lunatic
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #875 on: May 27, 2013, 03:30:52 PM »
Imagine all that with spell practice.

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« Reply #876 on: May 27, 2013, 04:01:46 PM »
How2goty DDC:
- buff stage 1 and 2
- fix shot types other than Reimu B you shouldn't be using them anyway
- make the remaining bosses harder than Kagerou so that I can drink the UFOsux race's tears one more time
- make the extra stage harder than lunatic

In general I agree with this. Stage 1 and 2 as well as the Stage 2 boss needs some work to be an interesting survival challenge. Given that a lot of bombing is going on for scoring it probably won't make that much different in any case.

I too would like to savor some tears this time. In extension of that, I too would like an Extra stage that's actually hard to beat for once. Last three games I beat the extra stages in 2-3 tries and that's just not good enough!

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #877 on: May 27, 2013, 04:37:51 PM »
Jellybeans are 100% hitbox so there's really no surprise there. Bad Cirno, using jellybeans.

Just keep to one 'lane' for each wave while keeping the fuck away from the jellybeans. You shouldn't need to last more than two, two and a half waves.

Is it odd that I'm not bad at grazefarming Cirno's spell?
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #878 on: May 27, 2013, 04:45:04 PM »
Is it odd that I'm not bad at grazefarming Cirno's spell?
Grazefarming how? I can think of one way and it's up there in superman-can't-supergraze-this-shit-tier.

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« Reply #879 on: May 27, 2013, 05:03:13 PM »
Grazefarming how? I can think of one way and it's up there in superman-can't-supergraze-this-shit-tier.

As in I can consistently dodge the jellyshit and hold the midboss spell out to about a second from timeout. What I mean is the idea that I can go out of my way to graze this card.
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« Reply #880 on: May 27, 2013, 05:20:07 PM »
Been a long time since I've had to just give up on something I've been trying for for a while.  But it happened, just now.

Mountain of Faith, lunatic, no bombs, something I've been trying for on and off (mostly on) for the past 4 months, at least...I can't do it.  At least, not now.  Why?  Because:
I perfect stage 1 maybe half the time >_>
Stage 2 follows maybe 30% of the time.  This level of consistency makes me not want to reset to bad mistakes in Stage 3 because it takes a while to get a no death run there.
Stage 3 always seems to have 2 deaths.  Hydro Camouflage is understandable, as are Nitori's 2nd and 3rd spells if I screw them up.  But the fairies after midboss Nitori?  Yeah, I die to those as often as Hydro Camouflage itself (60% of the time).
Stage 4 varies.  Can't really complain about that since I usually escape with 3 deaths at the worst, 4 if I derp Aya's last spell. (Momiji, random clipdeath, PWG, Aya's last sums up an average worst case scenario run, though I used to be consistent at Momiji).
Stage 5 is where I start to realize I can't actually do this right now.  I die to literally anything and everything.  I had a run which died 3 times on midboss Sanae to game over.  Dying on her is an average run even though she's not hard and I capture both patterns 95% of the time in stage practice.  I have died to the yellow spread streaming bullets at the end of the stage in a run.  I had a run which died on all 3 of Sanae's nonspells.  I had a run which entered Sanae with 3 lives and game overed on Moses Miracle.  and yet, when I go to Stage Practice immediately after failing, or as practice before attempts, I get either an NDNB or a 1DNB because I made a silly mistake somewhere.
Stage 6 is the final proof.  I tried about 50 times today to perfect the stage in practice.  I got to Kanako 7 times.  I captured her opener on 0 of those, tried dodging it without shooting for a bit after dying, kept dying horribly to it every few seconds.  Dodging that for me is pure luck, and I hate it.  and people say that it's easy, sure, I can see that if your reading speed is fast enough.  Mine's not.  How do you fix that?  At least all attempts that I didn't reset got everything from her first spell through her last nonspell, so it's not completely hopeless.  0 captures of Source of Rains.  Died once 4 times, twice, well, twice and 3 times on 1 attempt.  This spell has way too much RNG involved with the arrows, and you have to be very precise with bad luck...which I consistently got.  and to top it all off, Virtue of Wind God.  I used to capture it every time.  Now...I can't.  Simple as that.  Even though I was timing it out for further practice, only one attempt survived past the part where the timer starts ticking down-and that died at 91 left, which wouldn't have been a capture.  Add to that that I didn't feel like today was an off day for playing...what happened to me.

I hate giving up, but just by looking at where I die, I can't do it yet without thousands of tries, and I'd rather spend that time doing things that I know I'll get a good result out of, and not just "hey I reached Stage 6 with 0 lives AGAIN, let's game over to the stage or maybe, if we're lucky, Kanako's opener".

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #881 on: May 27, 2013, 08:00:04 PM »
Is it odd that I'm not bad at grazefarming Cirno's spell?

Grazefarming that spell for, what, 200 graze is counterproductive. No amount of items you get at boosted item value will make up for the spellcard bonus you're losing.

Wakasagihime's first spellcard, on the other hand, is graze city.

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« Reply #882 on: May 28, 2013, 12:59:07 PM »


I am so fucking retarded, why haven't i been killed yet? Or at least sterilized so that my genes may never corrupt future generations with boundless retardation.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #883 on: May 28, 2013, 11:26:11 PM »


I am so fucking retarded, why haven't i been killed yet? Or at least sterilized so that my genes may never corrupt future generations with boundless retardation.

I'd like you more if you stopped talking about what you want to put your dick in FYI.

Those records are much better than mine, chill out. Kagerou is a hard boss.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #884 on: May 28, 2013, 11:31:02 PM »
Agreed. I still haven't figured out her last spell. That's probably what's going to keep me from keeping a lot of resources when I go into Stage 4 in the full version, because seriously, what?
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #885 on: May 28, 2013, 11:48:54 PM »
Those records are much better than mine, chill out. Kagerou is a hard boss.

I am prone to depression for the time being so failing things due to bad reaction time or stupid decisions feel worse than they should. I am sorry. As for the records, they are all failures on the spells that matter. Stage 1 and 2 bosses I all captured blind and have captured almost consistently from then on. The records i wanted to show were the Stage 3 ones and they are pretty bad.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #886 on: May 29, 2013, 01:47:38 AM »
I'd like you more if you stopped talking about what you want to put your dick in FYI.

ಠ_ಠ'' Where the fuck did that come from?
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« Reply #887 on: May 29, 2013, 02:42:07 AM »
I am so fucking retarded, why haven't i been killed yet? Or at least sterilized so that my genes may never corrupt future generations with boundless retardation.
get on my level skrub



Good to know I'm not the only one who couldn't do the midboss spell, though.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #888 on: May 29, 2013, 07:03:12 AM »
Kagerou as a boss battle is making me repeat "dammit wolf" so frequently that my family are questioning what the hell I am doing.

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« Reply #889 on: May 29, 2013, 06:10:19 PM »
I've only given SA Lunatic a few hours of practice, and I already want to throw my computer through the window. Seems like an unending boring static clipdeath-party (with good music though). I think I'll just use ReimuC, bomb literally everything, call it a day and never come back.
It's weird how I can't really get into any game from MoF onwards...

Also, DDC trial decided to crash every time I try to launch it, which makes me sad (I want to play flamethrower-Marisa  :ohdear: ).

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« Reply #890 on: May 29, 2013, 07:13:34 PM »
Do you know what's the most infuriating part of UFO? It's not flashing UFO tokens never being the right color when they're near you. It's not clouds of items making bullets hard to see. It's not even the overall difficulty that can give trouble even on Easy. IT'S THOSE BLOODY BOSSES HUGGING SCREEN SIDES ALL THE DAMN TIME! While it doesn't apply to Byakuren, and with Shou, Murasa and even Nazrin it's not as bad and actually feels right, Ichirin and Kogasa are insufferable. Their attacks when they do that are too limiting to move after them swiftly, and if you don't have a high-leveled homing or wide shot, you're at their whimsy. And they're not willing to get closer most of the time. That just makes me mad and wanting to just shout "Get back here, you coward!" at them. Well, there is one way to get back at them, of course. BOMBAAAAA!
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« Reply #891 on: May 29, 2013, 08:26:33 PM »
Do you know what's the most infuriating part of UFO? It's not flashing UFO tokens never being the right color when they're near you. It's not clouds of items making bullets hard to see. It's not even the overall difficulty that can give trouble even on Easy. IT'S THOSE BLOODY BOSSES HUGGING SCREEN SIDES ALL THE DAMN TIME! While it doesn't apply to Byakuren, and with Shou, Murasa and even Nazrin it's not as bad and actually feels right, Ichirin and Kogasa are insufferable. Their attacks when they do that are too limiting to move after them swiftly, and if you don't have a high-leveled homing or wide shot, you're at their whimsy. And they're not willing to get closer most of the time. That just makes me mad and wanting to just shout "Get back here, you coward!" at them. Well, there is one way to get back at them, of course. BOMBAAAAA!

Oh fucking shit I know how you feel. The only reason I don't scream my head off about it is that I never really notice it enough as a long-term to justify making a post about it.
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« Reply #892 on: May 29, 2013, 10:06:23 PM »
I hate Suwako! If I'll ever clear this stage, that'll be the last fucking time I'll play it. Every other extra boss I've played has been at least a little bit enjoyable, but this... FUCK!
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« Reply #893 on: May 29, 2013, 11:21:51 PM »


Lesson: don't play Touhou while half asleep.

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« Reply #894 on: May 30, 2013, 01:06:44 AM »
Ichirin and Kogasa are insufferable. Their attacks when they do that are too limiting to move after them swiftly, and if you don't have a high-leveled homing or wide shot, you're at their whimsy.

Dude, what? Kogasa might move randomly around but Ichirin mostly doesn't move around at all or moves in fixed ways. Her first spellcard, she moves in a fixed way. Second spellcard, she's quite restricted as to where she can move, always around the center. Third, she doesn't move at all. Unless you are trying to do her supergraze spots, I have no clue what you are complaining about. There are bosses who do that random movement thing far worse.




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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #895 on: May 30, 2013, 01:24:02 AM »
I hate Suwako! If I'll ever clear this stage, that'll be the last fucking time I'll play it. Every other extra boss I've played has been at least a little bit enjoyable, but this... FUCK!

What cards give you problems? Look at a guide video for something or just bomb it. Remember that you are playing Mountain of Faith, also known as X Key: The Game
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« Reply #896 on: May 30, 2013, 01:34:48 AM »
Dude, what? Kogasa might move randomly around but Ichirin mostly doesn't move around at all or moves in fixed ways. Her first spellcard, she moves in a fixed way. Second spellcard, she's quite restricted as to where she can move, always around the center. Third, she doesn't move at all. Unless you are trying to do her supergraze spots, I have no clue what you are complaining about. There are bosses who do that random movement thing far worse.
I thought PSM, Sinkable Vortex and Aura of Justice are the biggest three offenders in terms of "WHERE ARE YOU GOING" spells.

I hate Suwako! If I'll ever clear this stage, that'll be the last fucking time I'll play it. Every other extra boss I've played has been at least a little bit enjoyable, but this... FUCK!
Oh you know, I didn't like Suwako's battle either but I actually find her pretty fun to replay despite her spells being not that interesting. I still don't think she's a top-notch ex boss, but I like her battle regardless (except her first two spells urgh).
You'll probably replay her sooner or later anyway. :V

More on-topic, I have gotten completely terrible at DDC it seems. After three first-try normal clears with the A types and another first-try hard ReimuB clear, I have increasingly much trouble with MarisaB (20 attempts?), SakuyaB (more) and ReimuA (also more). What the hell is up with me, man. Stage 3 is not that hard.
The worst thing about my ReimuA runs is that I perfected stage 2 (and 1 of course) on my first attempt, yet now I seem to do terribly at it. WHAT THE HELL MAN
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #897 on: May 30, 2013, 02:25:13 AM »
DDC brought back suicide bullets... FUCK!

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #898 on: May 30, 2013, 02:32:48 AM »
It did? Huh. Then again, I haven't really played much on Lunatic ever, so yeah. Of course, suicide bullets were in Fairy Wars. And there were a couple enemies in UFO Stage 2 that had weird suicide bullets.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #899 on: May 30, 2013, 03:04:00 AM »
DDC brought back suicide bullets... FUCK!

Is streaming really that troublesome? I'm not trying to be snappy, but seriously, it's just streaming. With practice, you can multitask between streaming and dodging on-hand.
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