Author Topic: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition  (Read 180021 times)

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #690 on: March 27, 2013, 04:47:30 PM »
PoDD is such a harsh game... when you use Chiyuri. If I make it to Yumemi with more than one life (has happened plenty of times now) It's still never enough -  last attempt I even tried pacifying and it STILL wasn't enough. Just unbelievable. I wish she could've just died those times I got her down to her last hit. I'm just gonna have to keep on hoping for a miracle because I am nowhere near skilled enough to pull through on my own.

The game is just depressing, Jaimers got his clear but I just keep on failing, and failing, and failing, over and over. I've probably put in at least 25 hours on Chiyuri, possibly much more. No clears in other touhou games can even come close to this nightmare...

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #691 on: March 28, 2013, 06:35:37 AM »
Remember when I said I had an entire replays folder full of nothing but 120 FPS Seamless Ceiling of Kinkaku-ji attempts that failed at the last shot?

I just made another one.

Every replay in it is dated within the last three days.

Yeah.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #692 on: March 28, 2013, 04:53:14 PM »
the more I play PoDD the worse I become at it. this isn't how practicing is suppsoed to work. how, what to do? play and become worse, or not play and become worse.

this is fucking weird.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #693 on: March 28, 2013, 04:58:07 PM »
Don't play PODD at all like I do Sakurei and you'll be fine...
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #694 on: March 29, 2013, 12:17:12 AM »
Argh why am I so bad at EoSD 6?
I had 3 lives going into it, and I gamed over to Meister again.
I died to Sakuya non (wall), Remilia's opener, and Needle Mountain.
No focus is too much for me, I keep crashing into bullets.

This is sort of like my NB attempts from a while ago. Always getting to stage 6 with decent lives and failing horribly.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #695 on: March 29, 2013, 06:05:49 PM »
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Match Mode : 2:20
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Story Mode : 1:25

Riiiight...

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #696 on: March 29, 2013, 06:28:29 PM »

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #697 on: March 29, 2013, 07:20:00 PM »
If that was me I'd have no computer left to post that with

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #698 on: March 29, 2013, 07:27:11 PM »
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Match Mode : 2:20
Average time against Medicine/Komachi in Story Mode : 1:25

Riiiight...

bullets in the later stages of the game are faster than in match mode! keep that in mind. eiki's bullets in match mode are about as fast as in the 4th round. for komach iit shoould be 3rd round.

NOOOOOOO D:

I have to second BT on that.

pls stop doing 100m runs, you are making me feel inferior :V

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #699 on: March 29, 2013, 10:41:29 PM »
NOOOOOOO D:
Is that over 111M I see there.

I'd like to hear what Emulator you use (my Anex is awful and T-98 Next seems to lag a lot), and it'd be nice if you could share an assumption of how many months hours you've put into the game. If you feel like sharing, that is.

Zil

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #700 on: March 30, 2013, 05:21:10 PM »
Anex86. It can be annoying but it's the only option for me. T-98 is too laggy and Neko Project is even worse.

I don't really know how to estimate how many hours I've spent. I'd guess something like 1,000. That would be kinda like three hours a day, every day for a year. Just a guess though. I tend to binge on the game and then take breaks from it, but it might average out to something close to that.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #701 on: March 30, 2013, 06:22:47 PM »
That sounds like an extreme guess. 3 hours a day is a lot.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #702 on: March 31, 2013, 05:33:40 PM »
Had fucking 5 extra lives for stage 6 and still lost. Remilia is a piece of shit walling me every possible way.
Time to give up, I guess. Maybe come back to it later when I don't suck so much.

EoSD LNBNF... I really want it :(
« Last Edit: March 31, 2013, 05:35:43 PM by Denpa »

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #703 on: March 31, 2013, 06:05:12 PM »
I just tried Stage 6 NF and... yeah, that's not easy! I got hit by the bubble phase of the last NS at low rank, of all things.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #704 on: March 31, 2013, 08:44:30 PM »
Some more failed EoSD LNBNF runs (done today):
3 lives in - meister game over
4 lives in - meister game over
3 lives in - meister game over, captured books in this run too

I die timing out Sakuya NS, clip on YDL, get walled by Illusion.

Oh god why is stage 6 so much harder than 1-5 combined...

edit: Game over to Gensokyo! I was close to capturing it too! Had 4 lives going into stage 6.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2013, 01:58:31 AM by Denpa »

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #705 on: April 02, 2013, 04:07:22 PM »
PoFV with Youmu is completely impossible.
Took Shikieiki to 2:48 in the 3rd round, probably my longest survival against her ever.
She had been on her last hit for over a minute.

Now, I know she lasts a long time, at least 30 seconds after her last hit, but still, that's stupid since she almost always dies by the 2:30 mark for me.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #706 on: April 02, 2013, 05:48:17 PM »
what are you even talking about? in the second and third round, eiki gets down to her last hit around 1:40 and dies around 3:00-3:15

you can't expect her to die early when you are playing youmu. she's almost as terrible at hitting the AI as komachi and mystia are. for eiki to die regularly at 2:30, who the fuck did you play with? aya and medicine?

I am assuming it was the 4th round she died that early. (which is normal, for the FOURTH round) before complaining about the game, inform yourself about the details better first. if you can't survive for 3 minutes, make sure you have a life more than this time.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #707 on: April 02, 2013, 05:58:33 PM »
what are you even talking about? in the second and third round, eiki gets down to her last hit around 1:40 and dies around 3:00-3:15

you can't expect her to die early when you are playing youmu. she's almost as terrible at hitting the AI as komachi and mystia are. for eiki to die regularly at 2:30, who the fuck did you play with? aya and medicine?

I am assuming it was the 4th round she died that early. (which is normal, for the FOURTH round) before complaining about the game, inform yourself about the details better first. if you can't survive for 3 minutes, make sure you have a life more than this time.
First, I dislike the tone of this post.
Second, Shikieiki died before the 2:30 mark, 3rd round, when I 1cced with Komachi.
Third, Aya and Medicine kill her faster than that.  Reimu can get a sub-2 kill.
Fourth, I know what I'm talking about, I'm using my previous clears as my knowledge that I'm basing it off of, and this is a RAGE thread, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do here.
Fifth, inform yourself more about the game before telling someone else to inform themself about the game.
Sixth, I know Youmu has no walling potential-but neither does Komachi, who I already said I got a 3rd round kill with before the 2:30 mark.
Seventh, I would love to have another life going in seeing as I didn't reach the 70 million extend.
Eighth, I can double check but I'm pretty sure my Mystia 1cc also ended around the 2:30 mark 3rd round.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #708 on: April 02, 2013, 06:13:06 PM »
Pretty sure it goes:

3:30 - 2nd round
3:00 - 3rd round
2:30 - everything thereafter.

Of course, anyone can luck out and win early. It's just very unlikely with most characters. Youmu's actually not that bad at walling. The ghost turds can trap the AI if they all spawn around or on top of it, though it's not necessarily easy to create lots of them at once.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #709 on: April 02, 2013, 06:16:46 PM »
PoFV with Youmu is completely impossible.

By that logic, I suppose clearing Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label and UFO without bombs/ufo summoning is impossible too.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #710 on: April 02, 2013, 06:18:39 PM »
Ah, the good old impossible, still gets me every time.

I'm using my previous clears as my knowledge that I'm basing it off of, and this is a RAGE thread, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do here.
Your previous Youmu clears? Why on earth are you doing a vanilla clear of it more than once, in the case you don't like the game (and you sure don't seem to)
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Sixth, I know Youmu has no walling potential-but neither does Komachi, who I already said I got a 3rd round kill with before the 2:30 mark.
Yes, with good RNG, the bosses can die earlier. Good luck hardly is the norm, though.
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Seventh, I would love to have another life going in seeing as I didn't reach the 70 million extend.
Play it more, then. Learn chains, cancels and proper charge use. Die once less within the earlier stages. I think this is what Sakurei was after.

Edit: Ah, Zil cut in before me and I decided to post anyway and care not of what the red message about reading other posts said. I guess I still had at least one point to make, even though I was seemingly mainly beating a dead horse.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2013, 06:23:55 PM by Vee »

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #711 on: April 02, 2013, 06:21:14 PM »
Shikieiki died before the 2:30 mark, 3rd round, when I 1cced with Komachi.

Got a replay?

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #712 on: April 02, 2013, 06:25:03 PM »
By that logic, I suppose clearing Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label and UFO without bombs/ufo summoning is impossible too.
Ah, the good old impossible, still gets me every time.
I see no problem with hyperbole.
Your previous Youmu clears? Why on earth are you doing a vanilla clear of it more than once, in the case you don't like the game (and you sure don't seem to)
Yes, with good RNG, the bosses can die earlier. Good luck hardly is the norm, though.
Play it more, then. Learn chains, cancels and proper charge use. Die once less within the earlier stages. I think this is what Sakurei was after.
Previous clears with other shots types, who are apparently worse at walling.  If all I've had so far is good luck, isn't that what I'd expect is the norm?  and I thought I've been clear that just sitting down and playing PoFV IS fun for me-surely you've had moments of frustration though.  Oh, abnd I was going to ask how to use Youmu better, but if all I'm going to get in condescending attitude from people what's the point.

Got a replay?
Yep.  I'm pretty sure that's when it happened but I'll double check of course.

chum

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #713 on: April 02, 2013, 06:27:00 PM »
If it did, then you got very, very good luck. In my experience, most characters have to survive for more than 3 minutes on the 3rd round, most of the time. If you get to the 3:30 mark, then you were indeed unlucky.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #714 on: April 02, 2013, 06:28:19 PM »
I see no problem with hyperbole.

I do. Please find another way to express your hatred, inferiority and frustration, thank you very much.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #715 on: April 02, 2013, 06:39:14 PM »
inferiority
Completely uncalled for.  Additionally, why should I have to conform to your opinions?  Oh right, because your inclusion of the word "inferiority" implies you believe yourself superior to me so I should follow your every whim.

Overall, I would like to point out that I am allowed to get frustrated, complain about things, and use the words I choose to use, and even though I remembered wrong, you could have politely informed me instead of phrase it like "lol ur stupid and dumb and i is teh bestestest player evar" (yes, more hyperbole, don't care.)

If it did, then you got very, very good luck. In my experience, most characters have to survive for more than 3 minutes on the 3rd round, most of the time. If you get to the 3:30 mark, then you were indeed unlucky.
Ok, my Komachi run was 4th round at 2:21, the first round ended in about a minute which is why I forgot about it.
Mystia was 4th round, 2:20.

hatred
Now you're making things up.


/rage at community, chum and Zil are cool, etc. etc.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #716 on: April 02, 2013, 06:42:52 PM »
I see no problem with hyperbole.
I dislike raging in general (not that it's a sin I'm free of), so you should probably just ignore what I think about it and I should stop reading this thread. It would be the most reasonable thing to happen, but as people usually are, I tend to be unreasonable. And in this case, I like knowing what people are up to.

Overexaggeration in general isn't that horrible. However, what struck me was that it looked like you blamed the game for your own mistakes. And also being overly aggressive towards Sakurei after that. (but maybe you just were returning a favor, so I won't go further into that)

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Previous clears with other shots types, who are apparently worse at walling.  If all I've had so far is good luck, isn't that what I'd expect is the norm?
As a little bit of advice, never assume of others for a new shot, especially in games like PoFV, where many things, including your own playstyle change.

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surely you've had moments of frustration though.
I don't see how this has anything to do with this, but yes.

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Oh, abnd I was going to ask how to use Youmu better, but if all I'm going to get in condescending attitude from people what's the point.
You could try the spell card help thread! And I think you might be misunderstanding, people are just correcting a mistake you made in your post, that's all.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #717 on: April 02, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »
You could try the spell card help thread! And I think you might be misunderstanding, people are just correcting a mistake you made in your post, that's all.
I might be misunderstanding, but I know the tone I read.  and Zengeku's post leaves very little for intrepretation IMO.  He's welcome to correct me however.

and I think I'll try a few more times before asking.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #718 on: April 02, 2013, 07:18:06 PM »
I apologize. The use of the word inferiority was accidental. The word incompetence is more appropriate for what I was trying to say to you. Again, this may also be considered quite condescending but it is not meant as such. I do believe that you are incompetent but that is not something that you should consider an insult, that's just a fact. You are lacking competences to play properly as is obvious from your posts here in this thread. I myself lack the competences necessary to do some of the things I would like to do. I do not respond to this by blaming the game but by blaming myself and trying to find out what I can do to improve those short-comings and by practicing them, hoping to eventually overcome them.

Your post however just reeked of a sore loser who has tried Youmu once or twice and haven't succeeded with her, not that this is something i assume - it's only guesswork, and thus decide that you want to blame the game for your own lack of competence at playing the shot.

For the future, please try to be a bit more constructive with your raging. Please be more descriptive about what went wrong with your run and what caused you to fail it and try to ask questions if there's something you are unsure of. It really beats just saying that things are impossible.

But you are right, this is the rage thread. Irrational things get's posted here, i know that very well. Just try to rage a little better in the future okay? And if not, please try to bear with some of us having to post our own raging about your raging in the same thread.




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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #719 on: April 02, 2013, 09:26:05 PM »
Well when 2 rounds get cut short because a fairy came up from the bottom of the screen and killed you, both on critical rounds, it is pretty much the games fault  :V