Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition

[Tsym]

Maybe to "improve on parts that are difficult" you should go for some perfect stages, or try No Bombs. Both will force you to actually dodge stuff like PSM instead of just auto-bombing it and never learning it.

I think part of the problem is that I'm currently overloaded on UFO. I've seen the same patterns so many times that I know them inside out. I know exactly what happens if I try to dodge PSM using ReimuB/SanaeA - I can dodge every wave perfectly until a gigantic orb coming from one side forces me to do a major readjustment, which then causes a mistake or a lucky dodge. I've seen this happen every time when I've gotten to PSM with no bombs in stock, and I'm kind of tired of only needing to figure out a few portions in a stage to make it work, then grinding until I can finally not screw up due to negligence on stage 1 to make it work. Call it UFO burnout or something, but I feel as though I've hit a wall in UFO. It's starting to become more of a chore to beat who I want to beat, and accomplish what I want to accomplish. I feel as though my problem with the game is just a general reflex issue, which I think I can practice more efficiently elsewhere.

Also I just dislike going for perfects. It feels far too luck based for my liking. I feel as though it's almost unnatural to expect any human to make absolutely 0 mistakes while doing something; I feel it's far more invigorating to make a mistake, then recover and climb back up, and make up for it in other places to get a clear. It's just a personal preference/philosophy thing. No bombs I'm totally willing to do though. I just feel as though right now if I hear the opening jingle for UFO stage 1 again I'm going to smack someone haha.

I've been playing for nearly 4 months, and still have no consistency in normal mode at all. Game over'd at Karmic Punishment in PCB today, Cowrie Shell in IN, and I haven't made it past Super-ego in SA despite having made it to Sanae almost 160 times. This is frustrating.

Trust me when I say that consistency is something you probably won't have at any difficulty until you're comfortable with the one that's a level higher. Just keep at it. You'll get it!

Double KOd to Umbrella Halo. My single least favorite card in the series.

And what the hell was I thinking on Heal By Desire, trying to stream it top to bottom? Ugh, I need to get some rest and do this again with a more functional brain.

Umbrella Halo? You were playing UFO Normal?

Oh, and

Dodge PSM by using SanaeB spreaad

It's not a real PSM capture unless you use ReimuB.

[Limian]

4 months? you're so cute. took me 10 for my first couple normal 1ccs. don't get discouraged if you're having problems now, just continue trying. you'll get it eventually. if you can get to UFO stage 4 with 8 lives, I daresay you'll get the UFO one soon, at least.

haha I don't know, I'm under the impression that I'm surrounded by people who've been attempting their first lunatics by that time. I always like to think I'm incredibly slow at these games. thanks for the encouragement!

and I've actually 1cc'd most normals bar EoSD and UFO (and IN 6A), I'm just trying to do sakuyaB and scarlet team for PCB and IN, respectively and getting annoyed at how I get murdered by their respective stage 4s/5s over and over again.

[チソウ タイゼン]

haha I don't know, I'm under the impression that I'm surrounded by people who've been attempting their first lunatics by that time. I always like to think I'm incredibly slow at these games. thanks for the encouragement!

I've been playing Touhou for what's going on three years now and I'm just starting to crack the Lunatic modes.

[Cor]

haha I don't know, I'm under the impression that I'm surrounded by people who've been attempting their first lunatics by that time. I always like to think I'm incredibly slow at these games. thanks for the encouragement!

Well, there's no minimum time you have to take before you start attempting Lunatics. I started on Lunatic. :V I'd guess you're not very slow compared to the majority of people, it's just the really fast mutants are the ones who stand out and who you remember.

[Sakurei]

Well, there's no minimum time you have to take before you start attempting Lunatics. I started on Lunatic. :V I'd guess you're not very slow compared to the majority of people, it's just the really fast mutants are the ones who stand out and who you remember.

that, so much. I mean, what the fuck, nindella, seiga etc? barely playing for a year, already loads better than I am, who's in it for 3 1/2 now. LOGIC :/ these mutants don't have any.

still makes me feel slow, seeing how I've got shit consistency and nindella is more of less on the verge of NMNB SA. he could go for it if he wanted to :V

[Kenta Kurodani]

Whoops... saw no avatar and assumed the same person was posting ^_^;

[Seppo Hovi]

I don't know if I should feel good or bad.

Hahaha.

[Cor]

You should feel good. c: A simple answer for a simple question.

[RNG]

Umbrella Halo? You were playing UFO Normal?

Man, I should be the last person to forget spellcard names, Jesus. I mean TD Kogasa, who is a bitch, not UFO Kogasa, who is very fun.

I'd guess you're not very slow compared to the majority of people, it's just the really fast mutants are the ones who stand out and who you remember.

I take issue to people who develop skills quickly being called mutants. I know it's a joke, but it speaks to a weird culture we have around these games in the West where we go into them thinking that we're going to suck and don't consider the virtues of practicing and memorization, and we think that skill at danmaku is some bizarre organic construct that develops through repeated ragequits.

I'll just say here what I said to Zork in spellcard help: The only thing holding you back from being able to pursue things like Lunatic clears or scoring is you saying that it's too intimidating and you can't. Stop insisting that you suck and will never improve, it will doom you. So will not learning how to follow replays.

I'm not speaking as one of the "fast players" either, I've been playing for 4 or 5 years and only just now am I approaching competence. Don't make the mistakes I did.

[Wriggle]

I don't know if I should feel good or bad.

Hahaha.

I see you just beat that other score, congrats. :toot:

[Sakurei]

fuck you marisa. pull the craziest godlike dodges. still die to something. just...fuck you. I had hoped I could do it today, but nope. that's it. continuing to die tomorrow.

[PMW]

I was playing PoFV lunatic with Cirno and I just...



...yeah.

[Sakurei]

what, you lost like 5 matches to eiki? that's harsh. I don't think it would happen again. that's just too unlikely.

[BT]

Think again. I can't count the number of times I lost five lives to her, with multiple characters.

[Sakurei]

I never did. never. 3 lives was the hghest I've ever lost to her and I play komachi who can't hit the AI. tehn again, every match I win against her goes into like 4-5 minutes. story mode at least...so yeah, I suppose hitting the AI is possible even with komachi, then.

[Goldom]

Why's the winner/loser text look like that? Mine's like this:

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[RNG]

English patch.

[Goldom]

But they're both in English? Or is 9 that one I was asking about in the Questions thread that went unanswered, where the English patcher had two options?

[チソウ タイゼン]

lol wut

Extra 90FPS attempt: Kokkuri-san's Contract
Phantasm 90FPS attempt: Boundary of Humans and Youkai

Whatever could it meeeean

[Sakurei]

oh hai, look who lost another pack of runs to marisa today :V best I've gotten was a 1DNB with the death being on the 7th non. I'll upload that replay, but man, I am so done for tday. I told myself that if I can't do it this week, I'll fuck this perfect for now. because even for me, there's a line. well, I got better at big crunch, so there's that, at least. but oh I GOT WORSE AT THE 6TH NON, TOO. well, fuck. also, open universe suddenly looks super impossible. I don't even know why.

also, lost a run to super perseid. shouldn't have happened. I ragequitted, so I don't know if that had been a 1dnb or not, but uh, yeah. the death was retarded. to_the_max. I am so disappointed in myself. this whole "you can capture EVERYTHING she has on its own, but in succession? nope. die to at least one thing" is really bugging me. had it with a couple bosses, but never so bad. my consistency with everything in that stage is complete shit. like, 1 out of 5 runs make it to marisa. that's 20%. 10% make it past big crunch, maybe. and of those 10, only 1% makes it past the 7th non. well, fuck. I think I had 4 runs till now that didn't die to the 7th non or earlier. 4, out of I don't know how many tries it took me. UNTIL NOW! I'm calling it now: I will double KO on fairy destruction ray at some point. like I did with Eirin and hourai elixir, like I did with FLandre and Q.E.D. like I did with miko and her last spell. I will definitely double KO on the last spell, making me lose another goddamn run.

ugh, this is making me angrier than it should. consistency is so shit.

[BT]

Just play it at a higher fps rate instead. 'Tis the only rational thing.

[Yatakarasu]

That's not me failing at Byakuren's last card. Nope. Not at all. -sob sob-
I even went in with 4 lives and 4 bombs.

Fun fact:
This was the first time I've gotten to this card on normal.

[Makedounia]

Stupid Mokou and her stupid nonspells... I can capture all of her cards up to Giant Hollow "Woo". The nonspells are SO annoying... (never thought I'd say that). 

[Sakurei]

Just play it at a higher fps rate instead. 'Tis the only rational thing.

you know what? I'll do that. I'll stop with the perfects altogether (for now) and play the games on 90 fps. that way I don't have to restart after every death :V I'll come back to them, though. just not too soon. maybe in january or something. yep. marisa officially defeated me :/

anyway, every remaining stage is not forgotten, merely postponed. I think trying to improve generally is smarter than grinding a stage until everything works out at some point. I easily restarted GFW extra 400-500 times. and even if I got a run now, it would mean shit, consideirng that. a battle of attrition. well, fuck. so yeah, leaving the extras alone for a while. Not doing the bullshit stages I have yet to do. Like everything I haven't done yet :V I could probably do yukari (tried a run a couple days ago and only failed 8th spell ran. and memo section before yukari :V). but nope. that's it. yeah.

the 1DNB from yesterday is processing and will be up on youtube soon. feel free to check it out, then.

[BT]

I'm trying to upload the almost-90fps-clear run I had a while ago, so that's added reference (aside from Zil's run). It's an enormous file though so who knows if it'll ever upload without freezing. :V

[chum]

4 Hours of Reisen no-focus no-charge attempts. Every time, third round Shikieiki finds a new way to fuck me up.

...Fuck.

[Validon98]

Koishi, stop killing me! That's another run I've lost to "Subterranean Rose!" Even worse, I lost a life to the first phase of "Philosophy of a Hated Person." The first. That never happens! Goddamnit Koishi!  :colonveeplusalpha:

[Makedounia]

Well, let's just say trying to 1cc SA with a weapon I've never used and 2AM don't really mix...

[Goldom]

Stupid Mokou and her stupid nonspells... I can capture all of her cards up to Giant Hollow "Woo". The nonspells are SO annoying... (never thought I'd say that).

Mokou's nonspells are a serious pain. Every other extra stage has utterly trivial nonspells, but Mokou's last one is a guaranteed bomb, and the next to last generally is as well.

As for Woo, if you don't mind being given the "answer," there's a technique to misdirect it that moved it from a never-capture to about 80% success for me:

Spoiler:

Shot 1: sit slightly left of center, half an inch off the bottom so the shots don't spawn into you. She'll then move left.
Shot 2: follow her left so the next shot fires straight down again. As soon as the shot fires, run through the gap to the right wall and move up to near Mokou's height.
Shot 3-lots: As the mass of shots approach you, slowly move down the right wall then left. The majority of the bullets will spawn offscreen and go away. Move back to Shot 1 position and repeat.

[チソウ タイゼン]

fack

i lost a 120fps Easy run to Miracle of Otensui