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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #120 on: November 17, 2012, 07:37:58 PM »
Spell Practice -- > Practice / Actual Runs -- Always a horrible transition.

Practice --> Actual Runs -- I usually do better here because :focus:

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #121 on: November 17, 2012, 07:52:43 PM »
Having a pretty good run of IN Stage 4A when suddenly...
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #122 on: November 17, 2012, 08:50:01 PM »
Thanks for the advice, guys !
I guess I shouldn't be too impatient and just take things as they come.

Just tried it, and no bombs normal runs are way more fun than I thought. EoSD should be possible, probably PCB and IN too (and maybe TD).

On topic : 2 deaths to Sakuya's last spell on normal  :o

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #123 on: November 17, 2012, 09:28:44 PM »
Why does Orin's last nonspell love killing me in every run I do? :colonveeplusalpha:
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #124 on: November 17, 2012, 11:57:45 PM »
Why does Orin's last nonspell love killing me in every run I do? :colonveeplusalpha:

Because it's a bullshit nonspell, regardless of difficulty.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #125 on: November 18, 2012, 01:40:37 AM »
I think I just found out I can't play as Marisa in any game anymore. Is Reimu's speed that different or do I suck enough to lose all my dodging skill after a small change of speed, even on focus? What a shit.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #126 on: November 18, 2012, 03:06:17 AM »
who else knows this!?

game of rising spell practice: 30/34
in actual runs: 20/58 (or something like that

apollo 13 spell practice: 27/53
Actual runs: 5/30

astronomical entombing spell practice: 20/46
in actual runs: 2/26

well, fuck you eirin.

genealogy and omoikane's brain are pretty similar, though. and I don't mind earth in a pot since I've gotten a lot better at it through many failures in actual runs, but still, FUUUUUUUUUUUU

Omoikane's brain can go die in a fire. I captured it on lunatic once in spell practice and I still can't do it on hard. I mean seriously ZUN wtf?

I think I just found out I can't play as Marisa in any game anymore. Is Reimu's speed that different or do I suck enough to lose all my dodging skill after a small change of speed, even on focus? What a shit.

I think for people who only use Reimu, Marisa is weird mostly because she is faster unfocused but slower( i'm pretty sure) focused. You mostly expect to have a proportional decrease in speed but it's a much steeper change. Also Marisa has a bigger hitbox, exaggerating the slow focused speed.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #127 on: November 18, 2012, 03:48:49 AM »
No, her focused speed is faster than Reimu's. I think the reason many people have that experience (what Wriggle just mentioned) is because of her hitbox rather than the speed. You can adjust to the speed difference after playing for a bit, but the hitbox takes a long time to get used to. Try using her in EoSD if you want to be sure, I guess.

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #128 on: November 18, 2012, 04:01:40 AM »
Uh, I thought Reimu only had a smaller hitbox at PCB, IN and TD... and in EoSD the things gets worse because she's way too fast there. But in SA... idk, she feels "heavy" when I'm focused. Same with Reimu-C, but it's mostly because of her weird familiars (that somehow affects my dodging), and because I can't really unfocus comfortably because she'll aim god-knows-where. But yeah, I use Reimu in pretty much any game except IN where I use Ghost team very often (but Border for Lunatic because they're easy to use), UFO (Sanae-B all the way) and TD when I occasionally use Sanae, but 70% of the time I do use Reimu. (and the "Marisa" thing doesn't happen to Sanae for me)

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #129 on: November 18, 2012, 10:57:20 AM »
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #130 on: November 18, 2012, 11:13:01 AM »
Welcome to Orin. Get used to her.

I'm pretty sure Nindel can back this statement up too. Her final attack can seriously be a butt. Probably her hardest because of how unreliable it is.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #131 on: November 18, 2012, 11:58:35 AM »
I find her last spell pretty fun (well at least on normal), but a complete bitch.
Now if we were talking Okuu's first card, then you would have all my rage.

In other news, Ichirin finds new ways to kill me each time I fight her. She ran into me during "Fist Smash." Must be her revenge for me thinking she's the worst UFO cast member. Worst is harsh....most boring? Yeah, most boring.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #132 on: November 18, 2012, 01:02:41 PM »
Failed SA LNB with MarisaB cause I can't stream Utsuho's 2nd non properly, doh!  :derp:


Well now I failed the run at Peta Flare after going into Utsuho with 5 lives.   The previous runs I can accept gaming over cause I had only 1-2 lives, but going in with 5 lives?!  God Dammit!!
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #133 on: November 18, 2012, 03:35:49 PM »
Failed a SakuyaB normal 1cc on PCB at less than 20 seconds remaining with three bombs in stock.
Considering I reached stage 6 with one extra life remaining, that's a good thing.
Considering I reached stage 6 with only one extra life remaining, that's also a bad thing.
I blame Merlin and Youmu.

Also I'm failing terribly at SA extra. I've seen Sanae's first spell as often as Keine's or Kanako's. The difference: I beat Mokou and Suwako, but only reached Danmaku Paranoia ...twice.
I hope this is somewhat normal as the SA extend system doesn't suit extra stages very well.
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #134 on: November 18, 2012, 06:04:08 PM »
Failed a SakuyaB normal 1cc on PCB at less than 20 seconds remaining with three bombs in stock.
Considering I reached stage 6 with one extra life remaining, that's a good thing.
Considering I reached stage 6 with only one extra life remaining, that's also a bad thing.
I blame Merlin and Youmu.

Also I'm failing terribly at SA extra. I've seen Sanae's first spell as often as Keine's or Kanako's. The difference: I beat Mokou and Suwako, but only reached Danmaku Paranoia ...twice.
I hope this is somewhat normal as the SA extend system doesn't suit extra stages very well.

SA's Extend system is pretty lame. Sanae doesn't give an 1up, but only 3 parts. And if you die in Sanae or Koishi (except for Sub Rose), you won't just lose that life, but will also be unable to get all possible extends, meaning you'd effectively lose 2 lives if you were going for score. Basically the  more you need or depend on lives, the less you'll have.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #135 on: November 18, 2012, 08:17:35 PM »
1DNB Patchy again  :V

This time was a double KO to Emerald Megalith as opposed to a derp to Mercury Poison.  Time to add Patchy to the list of bosses I should have perfected but haven't yet (Patchy, Sakuya, Flandre, Alice, Youmu, Keine, Reimu, Marisa, Kanako, Satori, Utsuho, Kogasa, Nue, Seiga)
Yeah the list in parentheses is my list of lunatic bosses I've 1DNB'd so far.  14.  and I only have like 30 perfects to go so half  :flamingv:

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #136 on: November 18, 2012, 08:20:10 PM »
Hah hah hah. PCB stage 3 lunatic, Marisa A. Anyone who's played that stage with that shot type knows how difficult the second half of the stage is with her. I clear that without getting hit, and perfect Alice. But it's not a perfect because I did a very non-sensical mistake on the first half of the stage and died on the easy part. Almost perfect, but not quite...it's always the same with me. ;D
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #137 on: November 18, 2012, 08:21:45 PM »
1DNB Patchy again  :V

This time was a double KO to Emerald Megalith as opposed to a derp to Mercury Poison.  Time to add Patchy to the list of bosses I should have perfected but haven't yet (Patchy, Sakuya, Flandre, Alice, Youmu, Keine, Reimu, Marisa, Kanako, Satori, Utsuho, Kogasa, Nue, Seiga)
Yeah the list in parentheses is my list of lunatic bosses I've 1DNB'd so far.  14.  and I only have like 30 perfects to go so half  :flamingv:
Mmm, nope, sorry, you have no right to complain until you choke to the final seconds of Perfect Remilia (twice).

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #138 on: November 18, 2012, 08:25:46 PM »
Mmm, nope, sorry, you have no right to complain until you choke to the final seconds of Perfect Remilia (twice).
Mmm, nope, sorry, I think I can complain about being so close on so many bosses.  Also no I'm not going for Remilia yet I have other things that I do.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #139 on: November 19, 2012, 03:42:02 PM »
Remember when I said Ichirin finds a new way to kill me each time I fight her, cause it was only a few posts up. Well, just got a double KO on her. :I
 

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #140 on: November 19, 2012, 04:08:44 PM »
IHNN doing a 1DNB run or two against a boss doesn't mean you're close. I can't imagine you can capture EoSD stage 4 books consistently, and even if you get past them, patchouli can still be a beast depending on who you use. I would be careful in shouting out "I'm close perfecting these bosses", just because you managed to only die once.

personal experience and such. ichirin and aya were great examples. had TONS of 1DNB runs of them, but it still took me forever, despite utter and crazy dedication (on aya, anyways). I'm sure you can do most of these bosses relatively quick, seeing how I have done more than half of those myself, but others will still take a while to perfect, even if you had good runs before. (looking and patchy and satori, for instance).

on a side note, while lying in a clinical room for 45 minutes, you have a lot of time to think, and I noticed that with a few exceptions (like 4, 5 if I cared to), all regular stages left are monsters. I can do miko, youmu, kogasa (also reisen, but she's the master of cheap tricks and boring spellcards, so duh. and reimu's last word is bullshit. easy as that, not doing that stage, only to fail 50 runs to that last attack that doesn't even take a life off you :V) but after those 3 (5), all I have left are either stages like PCB stage 4, so utterly boring and not even worth my time to learn them; or things like UFO stage 5, GFW extra, IN stage 6B, SA stage 4 + 5 etc etc. Each and everyone of them is going to look great once they're finished, but...the process of getting there will require a lot of...time. all of my pain. (not counting IN and TD extra. I think I could do those relatively quickly, too. With some practice)

I will probably call bullshit more than on one occasion, to be honest. calling it now :V
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #141 on: November 19, 2012, 05:30:04 PM »
IHNN doing a 1DNB run or two against a boss doesn't mean you're close. I can't imagine you can capture EoSD stage 4 books consistently, and even if you get past them, patchouli can still be a beast depending on who you use. I would be careful in shouting out "I'm close perfecting these bosses", just because you managed to only die once.
run or two?  Who says it's only 2?  Most of those either stupid death 1DNBs or 4+.
Also I'm not caring about the stage parts except on extra stages so I don't need to worry about the books.

Also, Kanako is a matter of getting her first nonspell and 4th spell in the same run.  Everything else I'm very consistent at capturing.  Seiga is a matter of not derping.  Utsuho is the one on that list I'm the least close to I'd say, especially since I'm out of practice.

Also, from my experience only Sakuya is holding me up for a ton of 1DNB fights, Aya was pretty quick, Ichirin I haven't really tried for yet (note that she's not on my list), Reisen took a while to not screw up the 3rd spell (I had forgotten how to do it), Futo was 3 tries, Yoshika was 1 (Kyouko took like 5 or something), Keine was about 4...the list goes on.  I've tended to get these things pretty quickly (Ran taking 2 is a perfect example).

That and my 1DNB Flandre was a wall on Kagome kagome and my 1DNB Nue was a derp to the 3rd nonspell so I think I'm reasonably consistent at them (though I expect some QED failures)

Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #142 on: November 20, 2012, 04:00:28 AM »

AHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! You know what really sucks that this picture doesn't convey? I lost a life to Byakuren's OPENER. WITH 2 BOMBS. Why. Why me... My first time getting to Byakuren with like 5/1, and I manage to pull this crap. Grrrrrrrrr.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #143 on: November 20, 2012, 12:42:20 PM »
God dammmmit, Reimu!!!! Decided to do a PoFV extra run with Shiki (cause I haven't cleared it with her yet), and got all the way to Reimu with 2 extra lives. Lost those two and was on my last life. I was gonna get another one if I survived for a bit. BUT! Reimu decided to fire off two spells at the very beginning of the fight and I didn't notice, so she pushed me into the corner and killed me. I would also like to add, that during one of my lives, I only had about 10 seconds left on the timer. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck!
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #144 on: November 20, 2012, 09:47:08 PM »
Mokou. You suck.



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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #145 on: November 20, 2012, 11:19:07 PM »
Oh yeah.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #146 on: November 21, 2012, 12:15:31 AM »
I did 56 tries and got to the end wave once :V

I need to stop trying to supergraze the rings .ASP style.

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #147 on: November 21, 2012, 12:51:07 AM »
why the fuck are you guys even complaining?



and I want to perfect that stage soonish. x)

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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #148 on: November 21, 2012, 01:23:40 AM »
Oh, Koakuma, how I hate you so. I can't get to Patchy without dying or bombing because of your stupid, STUPID pattern. DX
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Re: Touhou Rage Thread XV: No "No Misses" Edition
« Reply #149 on: November 21, 2012, 04:33:48 AM »
Mugetsu, why can't I beat you and fight your sister? Why?
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