RPG Mafia Thread (Current game: Rewrite Mafia)

[Raitaki]

That was because half of D1 I forgot Zakeri was my scumbuddy :3c

[Affinity]

They took a risk and it paid off; all it would have taken was a cop investigation to destroy them.  In the vast majority of games, this does not happen.  There will always be exceptions, I suppose.

[BT]

Do remember that this is an open setup. That actually changes the scumspect quite a lot.

[NekoNekoRex]

Do remember that this is an open setup. That actually changes the scumspect quite a lot.

What are you talking about? What can you mean by "scumspect"?
It's wordless. The only thing you can hope to suspect is that scum has different voting patterns then town.

That was because half of D1 I forgot Zakeri was my scumbuddy :3c

Talking about the game we just did, where I died N1 and I was partners with Busfriend PX and Shadoweh The Scumkiller

[BT]

I meant scumspective. Scum perspective! As in, in an open setup, your mislynches are practically numbered, so as scum you'll have a much harder time bussing. Speaking from experience.

[Conqueror]

The only thing you can hope to suspect is that scum has different voting patterns then town.

Well, this is like the basis of mafia because mafia is going to have different voting patterns than town by virtue of wincon + informed minority.
Town has power roles to limit the possibility of one mafia looking like town by hardbussing all their buddies the entire game and getting away with it scot free.

>Last game started with a Double Bus

Y'all only double bussed after the wagons on you were already formed by town. In any case, bussing is a case of suboptimal short-term play for long-term gain so it's a calculated risk.

[Shadoweh]

Talking about the game we just did, where I died N1 and I was partners with Busfriend PX and Shadoweh The Scumkiller

Yes it was totally impossible that game to figure out PX was trying to murder his partners, he was so subtle about it. :V
The roles probably could haave caught me TOO BAD THEY ALL DIED HA HA HA
Also in wordless mafia the chances of one scum wording their ass off to convince people they are the townest is reduced!

[NekoNekoRex]

Also in wordless mafia the chances of one scum wording their ass off to convince people they are the townest is reduced!

Isn't that the goal of scum in the thread? To look the most town?
Not that it isn't the goal of any player in general (aside from Power Roles who don't want to be a target)

Mafia is a game that pits lies and deceit against truth and hard-boiled styles.

It's pointless as a social game if you can just find scum by "analyzing the votals"

[PX]

Isn't that the goal of scum in the thread? To look the most town?
Not that it isn't the goal of any player in general (aside from Power Roles who don't want to be a target)

Mafia is a game that pits lies and deceit against truth and hard-boiled styles.

It's pointless as a social game if you can just find scum by "analyzing the votals"

You know what, the game is already going on. I suggest we all shut up about it until the game is finished.

[Pesco]

The game takes away the ability for anyone to lie or tell the truth. You get to make decisions by gut that you won't ever need to explain. It's like playing on Easy Mode.

[NekoNekoRex]

Honestly if we wanted a "balanced game" I'd set up a Nightless Mountainous with a 1:3 scum ratio.
It'd be a 50:50 game relying solely on town's ability to catch scum versus scum's ability to lie their way out of lynches.
According to Mafiascum Wiki it's balanced anyway

[Conqueror]

PX: Well this is just basic theory so

Isn't that the goal of scum in the thread? To look the most town?

Scum want to look town (most of the time), but their primary goal is to win by lynching town (most of the time), and these two often come into conflict, which is the basis of why town and scum play differently.

[Serela]

My monitor broke overnight (??) so I'm on my laptop, where I have no access to any of my game material (And also become minorly irritated by normal computer doings). I mean, I could technically just remember what the setup was, but apart from avatars I had a ton of other images collected for flavor use, plus yeah the actual avatars, etc.

I'm poor and may not be able to obtain a monitor in short amounts of time. (Going to be looking into how much they cost as I have NO IDEA) Affinity running a side game is, again, very convenient timing.

[PX]

My monitor broke overnight (??) so I'm on my laptop, where I have no access to any of my game material (And also become minorly irritated by normal computer doings). I mean, I could technically just remember what the setup was, but apart from avatars I had a ton of other images collected for flavor use, plus yeah the actual avatars, etc.

I'm poor and may not be able to obtain a monitor in short amounts of time. (Going to be looking into how much they cost as I have NO IDEA) Affinity running a side game is, again, very convenient timing.

Which is why you do everything in a quicktopic :/

[NekoNekoRex]

PX: Well this is just basic theory soScum want to look town (most of the time), but their primary goal is to win by lynching town (most of the time), and these two often come into conflict, which is the basis of why town and scum play differently.

But that still requires discussion to separate the two. For a game using only baseless votes without discussion, you're basically just running numbers to catch scum.
@Serela: Can you hook up your computer to your laptop as a backup monitor?
EDIT: Oh wait Google says that won't work

[Dr Rawr]

But that still requires discussion to separate the two. For a game using only baseless votes without discussion, you're basically just running numbers to catch scum.
@Serela: Can you hook up your computer to your laptop as a backup monitor?
EDIT: Oh wait Google says that won't work

If you feel as though you are unable to find scum under these circumstances then dont play it. Theres no point in discussing this any further if you feel that this game revolves around discussion and catching scum through other methods is unreliable.

[NekoNekoRex]

##Vote: Rawr
appeasement, missing the point of what a debate is

[I have no name]

The most annoying thing about this so far has been not being able to say that a player wouldn't be around for deadline.  I had work today and missed the deadline by a half hour.  Perhaps allowing an "##AFK: 2-7:15 EST type thing could solve it?

[Shadoweh]

I don't think we should make complaints about it while the game is going if we're in it.

[I have no name]

I don't think we should make complaints about it while the game is going if we're in it.

Suggested improvement-->cite example=complaint

[Affinity]

@IHNN: Well, I don't think it's important enough to warrant another command.  I mean, like, at least 7 people weren't around for the deadline.  For a wordless game, that's not so important.

[Pesco]

1. PM the mod
2. Mod notifies the game
3.
4. Profit

[Raikaria]

Might join the queue for games. I do have an idea of a theme, I just need to make a setup.

[NekoNekoRex]

I wish we could get our "actually serious" game underway so we can start moving the queue. Too much side games that are stalling it.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

u mad?


'Sides, it's not Affinity's fault nobody is joining Selery's game.

[NekoNekoRex]

Aside from the fact she ignored the queue to make the game in the first place

I suspect some people can't handle the pressure of two active games at once

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Affinity is a he.
Also, it doesn't stop anyone from signing up to Selery's game, and was done after signups to Selery's game had stagnated.
In addition, Selery broke his monitor so he doesn't even have his setup ready at this point or something.

[Polaris]

If anything we could just push back Serela in the queue and move on to the next one (Schezo's game) for now?
The side-game isn't stopping the so-called "serious" games from happening.

[I have no name]

Might join the queue for games. I do have an idea of a theme, I just need to make a setup.

Go for it.

If anything we could just push back Serela in the queue and move on to the next one (Schezo's game) for now?
The side-game isn't stopping the so-called "serious" games from happening.

This is true, but it shouldn't take very long to get through it and I was kind of under the impression the Mafia community needed a bit of a break.

Though if Schezo shows up and wants to run his then that's cool I guess.

[Schezo]

Mine's been ready like everyone else's should be when it's their turn, but I won't run mine while Affinity's game is going on.