Touhou Accomplishments Thread XVII: Chase Your Desires

[Chalros22]

Hooray, TD Lunatic 1cc This makes me happy because two things

1. I don't have to play TD anymore unless I want to perfect stages or some other random challenge

2. I can finally eat dinner tonight , SO HUNGRY

Current progress on Lunatics:

EoSD - Haven't really tried yet
PCB - done
IN - done
MoF - haven;t beat Aya in an actual attempt yet
SA - gotten to patchy (I think, been a while)
UFO - LOL
TD - done

Done! Finally done!
SA Normal 1cc CLEAR!

All in all, it didn't give me as much trouble as UFO. Utsuho wasn't as bad as Byakuren. Even though I could bombspam Byakuren like a madman, Utsuho didn't have that many difficult patterns. Just her cards were difficult for me, while Byakuren's non spells AND cards were pretty hard.

And with that, my Windows 1ccs are completes!!!

Nice now go to hard (or extra) . I would suggest IN first if you want to go for hard 1ccs. If you wanna do extras, personally I had the least trouble with MoF and PCB but its all down to preference.

[I have no name]

Hooray, TD Lunatic 1cc This makes me happy because two things

1. I don't have to play TD anymore unless I want to perfect stages or some other random challenge

Nice!
I wonder why people keep getting TD lunatic clears when it's obviously harder than SA  :V

[Chalros22]

Nice!

Thanks!

I wonder why people keep getting TD lunatic clears when it's obviously harder than SA  :V

I think that's an easy answer, but this is just my opinion. Consider how much easier TD Hard was than SA Hard. It inspires confidence that "hey maybe I can beat Lunatic" and people will be more likely to practice it. Also stage 4 and 5 of SA Lunatic (mostly from watching other, since I havent unlocked either of them myself) are IMO way harder than in TD, considering I almost perfected Futo before I even 1cced and while Seiga is a bitch shes way easier than Satori.

I know I'm doing MoF next (even though I said I'd do it last week and proceeded to instead clear PCB and TD) but then it's a tossup between SA and EoSD since I havent practiced either of them at all.

[I have no name]

Consider how much easier TD Hard was than SA Hard.

Also stage 4 and 5 of SA Lunatic (mostly from watching other, since I havent unlocked either of them myself) are IMO way harder than in TD, considering I almost perfected Futo before I even 1cced and while Seiga is a bitch shes way easier than Satori.

TD hard: something like 5 tries
SA hard: 2 tries
 :V

Satori is a much easier fight than Seiga, Futo is easier than Orin but that doesn't say much.  I mean, Seiga has Tongling Yoshika and tough nonspells, while Satori has...DBDB and Flying Insect's Nest, both of which I'm good at.

Utsuho is easier than Miko.

Really, Yuugi and Orin are the only harder parts of SA and you get more lives and bombs to boot.  How is TD easier now  :justasplanned:


tl;dr I haven't bothered to grind out a TD lunatic 1cc and probably won't for a while because it's harder and less fun.  Maybe after I get a few more boss perfects (like Kyouko for one...)

[Sakurei]

I will tell you how SA is harder: not everyone is good at DBDB and flying insect's nest :v

stage 3-5 are much worse in SA than they are in TD. tried perfecting SA stage 5? have fun. tried TD stage 5? I did the stage pretty much on my first try :v in SA, the stages make up a big part of the difficulty. easy as that.

[I have no name]

tried perfecting SA stage 5? have fun. tried TD stage 5?

Not seriously but I have gotten every part in only a few tries (except the midboss spell and third boss spell, which took 15 tries and haven't captured due to laziness, repsectively).  TD Stage 5 is much more annoying and Futo's nonspells are hard, as is her first spell.

[Karisa]

Nice!
I wonder why people keep getting TD lunatic clears when it's obviously harder than SA  :V

I wonder why people keep not getting TD Lunatic clears when it's obviously the easiest of the Windows games despite its low resources... wait, that doesn't get anywhere.

For me at least, TD Lunatic is way easier than SA Lunatic. It was back when I was trying for the 1cc (TD was my first Windows Lunatic, SA I didn't get until after LLS, TD, PCB, IN, and MoF), and I come much closer now to perfecting TD stage 4/5/6 than I can in SA stage 4/5/6.

SA does have plenty of lives and an easier stage 2/3 boss, but it also has harder stage portions, and denser patterns on average (easier to get clipped on, especially on stage 4 in my experience). Meanwhile, TD's stage portions are nearly trivial (plan a trance for things like the end of stage 5). And (assuming TD Reimu and SA ReimuA) you shouldn't have to use more than 1 bomb on any given boss phase in TD (that's not one of Miko's last three), while I've used 2 bombs on plenty of the harder SA phases (and I remember using 4 on cards like Peta Flare and Hell's Tokamak sometimes).

[Chalros22]

TD hard: something like 5 tries
SA hard: 2 tries
 :V

Satori is a much easier fight than Seiga, Futo is easier than Orin but that doesn't say much.  I mean, Seiga has Tongling Yoshika and tough nonspells, while Satori has...DBDB and Flying Insect's Nest, both of which I'm good at.

Utsuho is easier than Miko.

Really, Yuugi and Orin are the only harder parts of SA and you get more lives and bombs to boot.  How is TD easier now  :justasplanned:


tl;dr I haven't bothered to grind out a TD lunatic 1cc and probably won't for a while because it's harder and less fun.  Maybe after I get a few more boss perfects (like Kyouko for one...)

I guess we just have different preferences lol

For me TD Hard took about 3 or 4 tries whereas SA hard took me a lot more because I am dreadful at DBDB (prolly 15-20% on normal and like 5-10% on hard) and Orin's 2nd and 3rd nonspells (her only hard spell is needle mountain for me). I might agree that Utsuho is easier than Miko condisering she has 2 more spells and by the end of the game you tend to have more resources in SA because of the bomb system.

Seiga might be harder, but not by much for me(I can fairly easily capture seiga's first and last nonspells and spells but I really have never had much success on anything Satori throws at me) Stage 4's in general tend to give me nightmares (as do the bosses) but I would much rather do TD's stage 4 than SA's because there is much less super precise positioning and streaming. I like things that are more read and dodge because they challenge my reflexes as opposed to the more or less robotic streaming of SA's stage 4 with the amulets or continuously getting clipped by the laser grids.

Who knows,  maybe I'll do really well when going for SA Lunatic and my argument will be pointless then. Though I doubt I can keep up this ridiculous pace I have of getting clears.

As far as Kyouko is concerned, I never perfected her, at least on lunatic. I seriously planned 2 bombs in my actual route (second nonspell and final spell). Also why are lunatic stage 2 bosses so damn annoying *Points at Mystia and Chen*

[Karisa]

I perfected Suwako. That makes three.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpbo71m0Dg4

The stage portion isn't perfect, but that's because I was going for 900 million. (It doesn't matter to me for Extra as long as I don't die or use unplanned bombs.)

[Chalros22]

I perfected Suwako. That makes three.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpbo71m0Dg4

The stage portion isn't perfect, but that's because I was going for 900 million. (It doesn't matter to me for Extra as long as I don't die or use unplanned bombs.)

Congrats,  I never managed to cap either of her survivals, I've perfected the fight otherwise once or twice

[SirChaotick]

Events of last evening:

>Attempts TD hard again
>Sister pokes me in the stomach while I'm trying to do Poison Murder
>Ragequit

"F*** this s***, let's beat up Mamizou"
*Holy rage mode activated*
>Perfect Nue
>TD Extra Clear
>Goes delirious with excitement
>"Ran, thou shalt meet thy DOOOOOM!"
>Fails seven times in a row
>I SHALL PERSEVERE
>PCB Extra Clear

Not bad for an evening's work, and I didn't even have to fling my homework in the gutter.

[nintendonut888]

[21:47] <Kuruminut> Aah, now THAT'S the Donut style
[21:47] <Kuruminut> Do a bad run of a Touhou game on lunatic
[21:47] <Kuruminut> advicedonut.jpg
[21:47] <Kuruminut> Perfect a difficult boss immediately after
[21:48] * Kuruminut tugs on one of Orin's tails

[BT]

TD versus SA

Let's rock.

Of course SA is harder, by the definition of hard being "has more difficult patterns". SA is so flexible with its resources what with infinite bombs that it's barely an issue, though. Then comes TD with the most boring and annoying stages known to man and one Seiga Kaku that has Yosika fire walls at you that will take at least two whole lives away.

Here's a secret: I do not enjoy memorizing a path only to lose ALL my progress to one part of an otherwise TRIVIAL GAME.

It is DEMORALIZING.

It doesn't make you want to PLAY IT.

So, it's HARDER TO BEAT. You can't beat a game if you don't want to.

TD is much less of a problem for the same people that have enough patience to perfect stages and whatnot. Trying to 1cc TD Lunatic is like trying to perfect a stage - one strike and you're out. This isn't how a game's meant to work,

Now, of course I've exaggerated in some of this - Seiga is far from a wall, but it's more of naming a trend than anything else; it's Seiga in one run, Yoshika in another, sometimes even Kyouko if she decides to ram you when you try to farm spirits FOR SURVIVAL (man this game is good). This is all assuming you don't shit all over your strategy with one retarded death to a, any stage portion anyway, I rest my case.

[Naut]

Your quality of life will greatly improve once you realize nothing is forcing you to play TD. Spend all this new found time on infinitely better games, like UFO.

[BT]

Let me check if that's pretty much what I've been doing for the past three months.

It is. Okay.

[Bang Jan]

Done! Finally done!
SA Normal 1cc CLEAR!
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All in all, it didn't give me as much trouble as UFO. Utsuho wasn't as bad as Byakuren. Even though I could bombspam Byakuren like a madman, Utsuho didn't have that many difficult patterns. Just her cards were difficult for me, while Byakuren's non spells AND cards were pretty hard.

And with that, my Windows 1ccs are completes!!!

Now 1cc the PC98 games.

[Nindella]

Done! Finally done!
SA Normal 1cc CLEAR!
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All in all, it didn't give me as much trouble as UFO. Utsuho wasn't as bad as Byakuren. Even though I could bombspam Byakuren like a madman, Utsuho didn't have that many difficult patterns. Just her cards were difficult for me, while Byakuren's non spells AND cards were pretty hard.

And with that, my Windows 1ccs are completes!!!

Congrats!  Now do it all again on hard  :smug:

[Zengeku]

BT. I know you're a pretty relatively decent player so I'm just gonna give you this advice. Bomb the hell out of anything hard in that game and you'll 1cc the game instantly. I don't know how a player at your level can even have trouble with it. You don't need to farm spirits for survival. Don't do it, especially if it get's you killed.

Your quality of life will greatly improve once you realize nothing is forcing you to play TD. Spend all this new found time on infinitely better games, like UFO.

Quoted for indisputable truth.

[BT]

BT. I know you're a pretty relatively decent player so I'm just gonna give you this advice. Bomb the hell out of anything hard in that game and you'll 1cc the game instantly. I don't know how a player at your level can even have trouble with it. You don't need to farm spirits for survival. Don't do it, especially if it get's you killed.

1) I'm a perfectionist. I already mentioned how I see a TD 1cc just like perfecting a stage.
2) The game is so boring that I want to dodge the hard stuff when it happens. Buh-bye bombs.
3) When I do try Bomb Everything, I'm paranoid that I won't have enough resources to clear the game so I do some crazy stuff during the stages and promptly die.

Whatever, I barely attempt getting this 1cc anyway. It's really not up there in my "I want to do this now" list. It's a stain that I'll clean up eventually.

On-topic, I am totally ready to time out VoWG any day now. 2DNB is easily my average.

[BT]

Nevermind, I'm done.

TD Lunatic 1cc

Played well when I had to (Seiga). Even with hilariously bad deaths. At Futo I felt like pressing 'C' instead of 'X' and hilarity ensued.

Done with the integer windows games.

[SirChaotick]

Done! Finally done!
SA Normal 1cc CLEAR!
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All in all, it didn't give me as much trouble as UFO. Utsuho wasn't as bad as Byakuren. Even though I could bombspam Byakuren like a madman, Utsuho didn't have that many difficult patterns. Just her cards were difficult for me, while Byakuren's non spells AND cards were pretty hard.

And with that, my Windows 1ccs are completes!!!

Congratulations!

Now go and do hard.

No, give yourself a pat on the back first. Good job.

[chum]

PoFV 1cc'd as Mystia (once again had to survive for over 3 minutes against Shiki, did it 2 separate rounds) and Sakuya. Still missing Youmu, Yuuka, Komachi and Shiki then. Tried Komachi and her scope is balls. So Youmu and Yuuka are next in line, I guess.

TD Lunatic is definitely not very hard and easier than SA Lunatic btw. If you think otherwise my guess is you've just spent a whole lot more time with SA. Of course neither is too bad if you manage your resources and learn the stages.

[Sakurei]

MY HANDS, STILL SHAKING :V

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=23884

perfected Flandre and the stage! I was really worried when I screwed up the beginning section of ATTWN, but I recovered and this is it. the RNG really hated me. I was walled at kagome kagome and whent through the only gap :v god, my hands were shaking the whole time, especially towards the end of Q.E.D. staying under Flan proved being difficult, but had I not done that, I'd have probably lost. so yeah, a really rewarding clear. very satisfied with that run =)
sadly, philosopher's stone is boring this time. I have a failed replay where I pull some crazy ass dodges on it.

[fondue]

Okay on GFW i've cleared all routes on normal!  :]
But it wont let me extra stage :qq:

[Bang Jan]

Okay on GFW i've cleared all routes on normal!  :]
But it wont let me extra stage :qq:

That's because you didn't clear every route.

[fondue]

but i did
e: No don't tell me I have to clear all routes on all difficulties

[Jq1790]

Well, I've got a couple of things to note here, but there's only one I'm particularly interested in putting up here.
-After FAR TOO LONg, finally captured all Spell Cards in MoF at least once on Normal
     -Today I got my last 2 I'd been missing forever, namely Misayama Shrine Hunting Ritual and Miracle of Otensui.
-More importantly to me, after being inspired by watching videos of those insane VoWG timeouts, I decided to do the version I can actually access(IE Mountain of Faith [Normal]).  Took me a couple days, but finally timed it out successfully, so I'm happy.  One of my favorite cards to play, won't lie.  Part of me can't wait til I get to the level where I can actually play the real deal.

....Please ignore me sucking horribly at the rest of the fight, please.

EDIT:  Ok, I have no idea how it happened, but I just no-death'd Kanako while practicing Stage 6 with ReimuA(since I haven't 1cc'd with her yet, only the B-type).

[I have no name]

but i did
e: No don't tell me I have to clear all routes on all difficulties

You have to 1cc each route on any difficulty.  This includes easy.  (So you could have A1 lunatic 1cc, A2 hard, C1 and C2 normal and B1 and B2 easy 1ccs and extra would unlock because of a 1cc of each route)

[Chuckolator]

Am I one of the cool kids yet?

It happened so quickly Jade of the Horrid River is still only 4/27 from before I cleared her <_<

[Esper]

Am I one of the cool kids yet?

It happened so quickly Jade of the Horrid River is still only 4/27 from before I cleared her <_<

Perfect? NoDeath? What?