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Schezo · « **Reply #540 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:31:02 PM »

Serela stop talking until you make some cases on why they're town and why I'm scum.

Yes I would prefer a nl to lynch a PR. I wanted you lynched Bard, because I think you're scum.

Schezo · « **Reply #541 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:36:40 PM »

In fact I don't think anyone grasps how powerful a town BP is.

Bardiche · « **Reply #542 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:40:37 PM »

Quote from: Schezo on July 20, 2012, 06:31:02 PM

Yes I would prefer a nl to lynch a PR.

Read from here to here. I refused to hammer PX at the time, whereupon your response was to lynch me. Then here, you complain that I'm "forcing No Lynch", after just now stating you prefer No Lynch to a PX Lynch. (Let's forget for the moment that both PX and I are/were PRs)

How do these two things not contradict each other? If you preferred a No Lynch to lynching PX, why did you make such a point out of my refusal to hammer PX to the point that you kept repeating I was "trying to force No Lynch"?

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I wanted you lynched Bard, because I think you're scum.

Case where.

Schezo · « **Reply #543 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:42:03 PM »

Because I wanted to get you lynched. How does that grab everyone?

I agreed with Edibleh's case. Case there.

Bardiche · « **Reply #544 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:45:48 PM »

Quote from: Schezo on July 20, 2012, 06:42:03 PM

Because I wanted to get you lynched. How does that grab everyone?

I agreed with Edibleh's case. Case there.

So you are not scummy for refusing to lynch PX, but I am. And you admit to having no case whatsoever other than Edible's arguments, so you're not scumhunting in the slightest and aside from "agree with Edible", you're not putting in any effort to get the one you think is scum lynched.

F'rinstance, you're not voting me, and for second, after I voted you and called you Scum, your initial response was this. That seems a weird reaction to "Scum voting you" if you're so sure I'm Scum.

I think I am very satisfied with where my vote is for today.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #545 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:48:55 PM »

Quote from: Schezo on July 20, 2012, 06:36:40 PM

In fact I don't think anyone grasps how powerful a town BP is.

once claimed, you'll never get shot by scum and town will distrust you and consider you a policy lynch. pretty powerful dude

BT · « **Reply #546 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:49:59 PM »

None of you are scummy for this silly NL thing. Case closed.

Bard, why is the contradiction scummy?
Schezo, what about Bard's claim?

BT · « **Reply #547 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:51:47 PM »

Quote from: Bardiche on July 20, 2012, 06:45:48 PM

for second, after I voted you and called you Scum, your initial response was this. That seems a weird reaction to "Scum voting you" if you're so sure I'm Scum.

NNR was calling it bad too.

Schezo · « **Reply #548 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:52:55 PM »

It was more to neko but thanks Bard for being clear.

OK huh what ok.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #549 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:59:00 PM »

I agree that it has power in this situation. One BP would effectively have stopped two kills. By the way Bard I will be extremely disapointed if you're actually the cop instead of Neko, neighbour QT's are made for those kinds of shenanigans.

People aren't going to change their minds about the No-lynch thing so let's change the subject. Because Edible isn't going to hold to people. I know you can ramble with the best of us, why is Bard scum in your own words? Edible didn't have a cop claim to consider before he made his case either.

Bardiche · « **Reply #550 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:01:25 PM »

Quote from: BT on July 20, 2012, 06:51:47 PM

NNR was calling it bad too.

NNR is just one person. 1 Town + 1 Scum voting you should not result in "this fucking game", then throwing hands up and twiddling thumbs. If he thought I was Scum, he had the entire Night Phase to come up with a case to detail why I am Scum. Instead he persists that I am Scum and does not go beyond sheeping to Edible's ED1 case. There is no way that being voted by a Townie should provoke this kind of reaction from Town.

The contradiction is Scummy because asserting that A) Bard going for No Lynch is Scummy and B) No Lynch is superior to a PX Lynch are two statements that cannot go together, especially given the case that C) Schezo was going for No Lynch but getting voted for that is 'reaching'. Applying double standards is pro-Scum behaviour; At best it is tunnely Town with pygmalion trying desperately to fit their Scum suspect to a Scum profile, but I strongly do not believe that is the case, as Schezo does not have a case whatsoever aside from asserting that Edible was right about the self-meta thing. Town convinced of having caught Scum would likely do more than just sit on a sheeped case and do nothing else.

Cut by Schezo. One Townie voting you over something (especially a Townie you were quick to mock and degrade during the last stages of D1) should still not sollicit such a reaction.

Cut by Shadoweh. So how's about your reads today. Yesterday you were all "baaah sheep", too, I recall.

Bardiche · « **Reply #551 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:07:16 PM »

Also Shadoweh stop being scummy. First going DON'T CLAIM and then being all friendly by telling Scum that there are Neighbour Lover pairS (which is infinitely more beneficial to Scum to know), then fishing for info here and here.

What I did and did not talk to Neko about in our Neighbour QT and what we did and did not discuss prior to any claims are frankly none of your business and your continuous prying into it is Scummy. Take the following.

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By the way Bard I will be extremely disapointed if you're actually the cop instead of Neko, neighbour QT's are made for those kinds of shenanigans.

What value is there in saying this other than attempting to provoke a reaction re: Which of us is Cop? Serela's been prying too to get answers about roles and frankly it's unsettling. Any information I do not volunteer is information I will not share and these attempts to pry at it (maybe hoping Neko'll say something) is fishy.

ActionDan · « **Reply #552 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:09:12 PM »

##Vote: HW

:gut:

This is not really a serious vote thought out vote in the slightest and I will probably lynch something else today. But I'd like his name on the score sheet.

Schezo · « **Reply #553 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:09:48 PM »

It elicits that reaction because the case on me bad and people are liking it so I'm going to deal with people like Serela just jumping on for HEYYY all day and that's stupid.

One townie being voting me like that does make me want to pull a Sailor Moon yes. I'm doing that.

But didn't I want you voted at the end by saying you were scum for forcing a nl. That doesn't look to me like I was sitting on my ass not trying to get you lynched. HEYYY

But the nerve of me to get upset when just one person is voting me. Honestly I wanted to be nightkilled so I wouldn't have to keep reading this fucking game when day 1 ended like that. But what do I know. I'll make some reads later tonight because I'm seriously going to pull a Sailor Moon in a minute.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #554 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:12:20 PM »

dan ur gut sucks sorry

i think we should stop arguing and lynch serela. i haven't done my re-read yet because i'm lazy but i know i'm going to want him dead anyway, just look at all that flip-flopping on town!px yesterday

Bardiche · « **Reply #555 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:15:14 PM »

Huh Whatty, case where.

Schezo are we seriously doing this AtE nonsense.

Serela · « **Reply #556 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:19:27 PM »

Schezo:What does "Pull a Sailor Moon" even mean :c???

You're going to yell MOOOOON TIARAAAAAA MAGIIIIIIC and throw your headgear at someone and they'll turn into dust? (Or about the same with any of the later sailor moon attacks. As long as it isn't that really bland boring one from the start of the 4th season, Super Moon Target or whatever)

(I'm not actually speculating he's a vig, but I'm procrastinating on my nap, and the first sentence is an actual question)

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #557 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:26:39 PM »

Bard: soon

Serela: schezo was sailor moon in mafia history mafia

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #558 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:31:11 PM »

Shezo is acting like scum caught in the act and saying anything and everything to try to deflect his votes. The no-lynch thing sounds like convenient bullshit to justify his refusal to voteswitch.

D1's end was a panic-fest, though (which is my fault for making a move to protect my Cop Neighbor), but that doesn't really justify Shezo's blatant flailfest to make Bard look as bad as possible to try to secure his lynch, especially when he claimed cop. Especially now that it's obvious that... well, you know.

@Shadoweh: I claimed miller before I was made aware Bard was a cop.

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #559 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:31:59 PM »

Also didn't you claim Governor? If you wanted to stop the lynch why didn't you?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #560 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:36:30 PM »

Shitty PBPA-ish thing because it's the most concise way I can point out how bad Serela's PX vote looks -

Early D1: #57 votepark with obvious answer, followed by rationalizing when called out on it (#127) even though his vote has no meat. Reaction to PX "XD TROLLED!!!!!!!!!" sounds frustrated he has to drop his case which he didn't even justify until after that post, and most of his reasons were for stuff from after he rationalized with "but PX looks pretty bad!".
Mid D1: Never expands on Shadoweh and Omba because they're not the dude he's mislynching. Unvotes PX for being town and before flipflopping back to "maybe PX is scum", but ragequits and never explains this weird train of thought even though I was pressing him for it at the time.
Late D1: As of #428, now wants to lynch PX again and does nothing to explain his thought process or earlier flip-flop. Between his PX unvote and now there has been no evolution of his case despite reactions to PX. Doesn't give a fuck for the rest of the day.

Bonus gut thing: His #119 bugs me because I dunno why he'd say "no offense" unless he wanted to avoid getting on Omba's bad side.

So yeah, his only opinion all day was on PX, it wasn't consistent, and he never explained the inconsistencies when prodded. Overall terrible D1 1/10 would not bang. Doubt this is just town!Serela waffling to because town Serela goes out of his way to justify his silliness when people call him out on it (and I did several times).

This is from an ISO and not a re-read. I will do the latter at some later hour.

Neko cut: British Governor Scum is an injoke based on how Schezo has a record of acting wordy and polite as scum but is concise and a dick as town. It's not a roleclaim.

Bardiche · « **Reply #561 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:41:40 PM »

Quote from: NekoNekoRex on July 20, 2012, 07:31:11 PM

@Shadoweh: I claimed miller before I was made aware Bard was a cop.

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Any information I do not volunteer is information I will not share and these attempts to pry at it (maybe hoping Neko'll say something) is fishy.

Neko. ;_;

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Neko cut: British Governor Scum is an injoke based on how Schezo has a record of acting wordy and polite as scum but is concise and a dick as town. It's not a roleclaim.

So Schezo claiming British Governor means he's claiming Scum right. obv lynch choo choo

BT · « **Reply #562 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:57:51 PM »

Quote from: Bardiche on July 20, 2012, 07:41:40 PM

Neko. ;_;

It was actually a valid question: fakeclaiming miller after cop is a lot more plausible. Which isn't the case. Which is good.

Quote from: Bardiche on July 20, 2012, 07:41:40 PM

So Schezo claiming British Governor means he's claiming Scum right. obv lynch choo choo

None of this again please.

Bardiche · « **Reply #563 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:09:08 PM »

Quote from: BT on July 20, 2012, 07:57:51 PM

None of this again please.

I'm actually fairly serious. If "Bard claiming ending RVS self-meta = scum", then Schezo being concise and a dick is clearly acting to his Meta while pointing out his Scum meta is British Governor, thus invoking self-meta, thus being clearly Scum.

Blah blah blah this level of reasoning is possible for Bardiche what do you guys think blah blah.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #564 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:10:23 PM »

You weren't scum. Why would he be? Don't make fun of dead townie's cases.

Serela · « **Reply #565 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:53:18 PM »

'kay, schezo stuff.

I'm not sure I get your vote here. I am totally open to you explaining it though. Right now though, my interpretation is "Neko thinks that Dan's obvious joke claim before the game even started is fine" as your reason for voting him though[/url], which would be horribad.

You also voice dislike of ActionDan (in preference over the BT wagon), but

for why. It amuses me considering your reason for voting Neko seems to be majorily over his reaction to people voting him for the joke claim (which is a silly reason to vote him for in a serious se.se, aka not-rvs, and I think Neko's statement about it was perfectly fine, or at the LEAST not something that made him scummy)

And then he just goes "SHEEP" on the Bard case. :T As in, I quote, "The Great Detective makes a solid case. I shall sheep. Vote:bard"

And when he comes back later, "Oh I don't like any of these wagons. But I'll still support lynching Bard." (I also think his "flagrantly over the top" accusation on Neko as something he's scummy for is pretty silly here too)

Without getting into his great desire to see the claimed town cop neighbor lynched over his sudden townread PX, which he tried to justify today for because PX is a town power role. Even though bulletproofs are sort of useless after they claim, unless they're also obvtown for some reason I guess, which PX was by no means, and despite Bard being arguably the best powerrole who would likely get nk'd without us lynching him if he wasn't scum.

(Which, due to the ~*~reasons~*~ that have revealed by now, he almost assuredly isn't scum, so)

tl;dr I don't like Schezo's Neko stuff at all and his entire dislike of bard consists of sheeping (Nor did he even want Bard lynched much according to himself, but it was simply the one he'd rather have died out of the wagons, idk feels like a strange disconnect statement considering the rest of everything he's said about bard), along with various shenanigans outlined above, as a smaller aside both the people he wanted dead D1 are now prob-town

##vote:Schezo

Serela · « **Reply #566 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:54:04 PM »

if the mod adds "[url=" to that first paragraph up in my post I'll be so happy ;_;

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #567 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:56:22 PM »

Quote from: Bardiche on July 20, 2012, 07:41:40 PM

Neko. ;_;

That quote doesn't prove nothin'
:colbert:

No but seriously guys/Shadoweh stop prying into who's the cop. Even if me or him is cop it's not going to help town much anyway proving who's who.

Serela · « **Reply #568 on:** July 20, 2012, 09:00:51 PM »

For that matter I'd still like clarification on the state of the cop's night action.

BT · « **Reply #569 on:** July 20, 2012, 09:11:33 PM »

Serela, are you working on your other promised cases?