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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #120 on: July 10, 2012, 04:26:47 AM »
>Let's have an attack list, for old times sake.

>Violet Lotus: Realizations of the Wanderings (your purifying ability)
>Sapphire Lotus: Renunciation (your defensive/shield ability)
>Scarlet Lotus: Realization of Impermanence (an offensive ability)
>Amber Lotus: Moment's Respite from Dukkha (an offensive ability)
>Indigo Lotus: Karmic Touch (an ability used to counter enemies attacks while they're forming)

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #121 on: July 10, 2012, 05:04:56 AM »
>Let us say we wish to send a Realization of the Wandering at the youma from here. Would it be less draining to create a "remote controlled" version that moves as we wish or would be less draining to make one that goes X amount of feet from where we are toward the door then turns and streaks toward where the statue is, assuming we keep speed and all the other factors the same?

Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #122 on: July 10, 2012, 08:23:43 AM »
>Let us say we wish to send a Realization of the Wandering at the youma from here. Would it be less draining to create a "remote controlled" version that moves as we wish or would be less draining to make one that goes X amount of feet from where we are toward the door then turns and streaks toward where the statue is, assuming we keep speed and all the other factors the same?

>The latter alteration, the beam that goes so far and changes direction only once, should produce less strain and consume less energy than the beam you'd have to control every step of the way. Assuming logic holds true to your particular brand of magic.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #123 on: July 10, 2012, 12:55:28 PM »
>Quietly say, "I'm going to try something. Keep your eyes peeled for me."
>Try to make a Realization of the Wandering that arcs so it will through the door, then angle itself toward the youma. Hopefully arcs will be easier since no stopping is involved.

Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2012, 08:38:58 AM »
>Quietly say, "I'm going to try something. Keep your eyes peeled for me."
>Try to make a Realization of the Wandering that arcs so it will through the door, then angle itself toward the youma. Hopefully arcs will be easier since no stopping is involved.

>Lily nods and straightens herself up, wincing sharply as she does.
>Straightening yourself, you point your scepter towards the door, and narrow your focus on your next attack. When you used your Sapphire Lotus to catch those two humans back at Ran's, the force exerted on your body was quite pronounced. You hope for something a bit more forgiving as you unleash your 'arced' version of your Violet light.
>For a moment, you're simply pleasantly surprised it worked at all, but the shooting pain that flies through your arms, up your chest and across your head makes this feeling disappear. Nevertheless, it DID work.
>Unfortunately, the youma picked that moment to fire as well, the electric buzz of one of its blue lasers discharging sounding. Your shot and its pass by each other at the entryway, its laser striking the end of the first locker corridor, and making a beeline for you.
>Lily, however, is not idle, and stood ready for just such an event. She invokes her leaf shield again, and places herself in front of you to your left with a dash, and intercepts the bouncing blue laser. The leaves turn blue again, but this time, Lily barks out in pain and falls to her knees, drooping, her shield vanishing.

>Your own attack produces a much more dramatic effect, as you sense it strike the youma right at the area concealing its Dark Core. Without its protective shield of black energy, the Core melts under your light, and a brilliant mix of white and violet light burst forth from the door. When the light fades, you head four splashing sounds, like four large things hitting the water covering the floor.
>Lily, breathing heavily, gasps out, "I think... you got it..."
>The dry voice of the purpose rings in your head, Well done, but you must hurry, Hero. The shrine maiden's fear is about to consume her.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2012, 02:16:27 PM »
>Help Lily up.
>"Kiku needs us, let's go."
>Soldier onward, helping Lily as needs be, leaning on her if we need to and it feels like she can take it. Kiku needs us, there's no time to rest. Even if we are completely drained, that is fine. Magic isn't necessary to open one's mind, and that is what we came to do.


Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2012, 03:36:55 PM »
>Help Lily up.
>"Kiku needs us, let's go."
>Soldier onward, helping Lily as needs be, leaning on her if we need to and it feels like she can take it. Kiku needs us, there's no time to rest. Even if we are completely drained, that is fine. Magic isn't necessary to open one's mind, and that is what we came to do.

>Lowering your scepter, you don't even give yourself a moment to catch your breath, or to let some of the ache in your limbs go away. Kiku needs you, that's all there is to it.
>You take Lily's arm and help her regain her vertical base. She is clutching her ribs again, and looks like a wilted flower. You yourself are aching nearly all over your body, your head throbbing behind your eyes. You feel very tired, drained. And you're still hungry. You sincerely hope that this demon is more reasonable than the last one; the last thing you want is another fight, in more than one way.
>You and Lily both support each other as you head through the entryway to where the youma and the statues were. The youma is truly gone, and the four statues have been replaced by four people- three females and one male. They all appear to be alive, but unconscious. Probably drained of power, like the other youma victims. They'll have to wait; they're safe, for now, and Kiku isn't. Lily makes a noise of surprise as you go past, but says nothing.
>There are two doors within this chamber, the one to your left leading to what seems to be a bathroom, the one to your right leading to the pool, so you head through that door.

>'Pool' is a bit of a misnomer, in this case. The body of water within this large room isn't shaped like a standard swimming pool. It's been styled to look like a small lake, with curves and bends, rather than a rectangular shape. The floor around the pond is actually a mix of sand and gravel, the floor farther out the same tile surface that the locker room has. You note that the ground here is not covered by water, but there are small puddles on the floor and at two places on the wall, as well as what appears to be a large burn on the west wall. A shredded paper charm is near your feet, mute testament to Kiku's battle.
>Kiku herself is on the northwest side of the room, approximately 15 feet away from you. She is on her knees on the tile portion of the floor, her clothes and hair dripping wet, damaged. Several paper charms lie discarded around her. Her body language is that of one completely defeated.
>Floating in front of her is a creature that looks like a nightmarish combination of a snake and a bat. It is a serpentine shape, at least twelve feet long from head to tail, with dull blue scales on its back, its belly scales an off-white. It has two bat-like wings protruding from its back, hovering in place. A spiny crest of long hair-like scales extend from its head.
>Perhaps most disturbingly of all is the small glowing object that hangs in the air between them, the object that Kiku seems transfixed by. A black and yellow ring. By the energy pattern your othersight shows you, it is the same kind of ring that the crazed woman you fought was wearing.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #127 on: July 11, 2012, 03:40:59 PM »
>It doesn't matter how battered and beaten we are, to protect our friends, we will fight!
>Blast the bat-snake thing with Realization of Impermanence.
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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2012, 05:52:42 PM »
>It doesn't matter how battered and beaten we are, to protect our friends, we will fight!
>Blast the bat-snake thing with Realization of Impermanence.

>Don't try this just yet, we don't know if it can be purified by magic.

I think we're dealing with something different. This isn't really a thing that been tainted by an outside power, we're dealing with the outside power itself. There's not really a base state that we can return it to. This one, we're going to have to actually convert for reals with reason and compassion. Thankfully, there is Buddhist precedent for this!

However...I think we can do something to the ring, if needs be.



>Does it seem that Kiku is going to reach for it?

Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #129 on: July 11, 2012, 06:02:26 PM »
>It doesn't matter how battered and beaten we are, to protect our friends, we will fight!
>Blast the bat-snake thing with Realization of Impermanence.
>Don't try this just yet, we don't know if it can be purified by magic.

>You consider blasting the snake thing with your Scarlet light to come to Kiku's defense, but then reconsider, and do nothing.

>Does it seem that Kiku is going to reach for it?

>You would guess so.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #130 on: July 11, 2012, 06:11:57 PM »
So, it seems we have two real options. One is to try to purify or otherwise disrupt the ring. The other is to try to sway Kiku back to her senses.  I am a bit more in favor of the latter, it's less wearying, which is becoming a thing for us, and it's less aggressive, which is going to be important for dealing with Batsnake.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #131 on: July 11, 2012, 09:10:57 PM »
I say go for the ring.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #132 on: July 12, 2012, 06:25:57 AM »
Why not just try to draw the batsnake away with an attack, then interpose ourselves between her and the ring, placing the ring between it.
I suspect it's after a new minion, given how we just beat the last one.
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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #133 on: July 12, 2012, 07:35:59 AM »
Let's move in and get between Kiku and the ring while purity-beaming the ring.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #134 on: July 12, 2012, 01:19:24 PM »
I don't think that attacking the batsnake isn't going to work in our favor, given how drained we are at the moment. Also, it would be out of character as the goal isn't to kill it, it's to win it over, and taking violent action isn't going to be condusive to that. Especially since isn't a thing we're going to be able to directly toss a spell at and win like before.

This being said, interposing ourself between Kiku and the ring may work, but I am not certain it would anything for her. It would escalate tensions as well, but that might be inevitable in this situation. I think calling out to her first may be the best thing, if we can break her from this without using up our own power or taking direct action against it, that will be best.

I think another aspect to consider is how we're going to proceed from here. In particular, how do we intend to win this? I personally don't think that punching him until he stops being a bad guy is going to work, and it would be direly out of character for a devout Buddhist. And we're not really in the position to do that, given the last few scuffles we've been in. Nor is there going to be any one spell that's going to make him stop; like I said, the problem wouldn't be corruption in this so much as being the corrupter. So, this leaves us with the basic option of talking it out, and creative spell use to assist with that. I can think of one spell in regards to that which wouldn't be unethical, but it'd be kind of a gamble in a couple ways, so I don't want to start with that.

Anyways, I think the first step is obviously to get Kiku and maybe Lily to safety without making ourself look like hypocrits when we turn around and say, "I've not come to hurt you" afterward. So, interposing would work, certainly, but just calling out to Kiku and hoping we don't even need to purify anything would be better. I think that would be all we need, Kiku's terrified, but she's not dumb. Just having someone there should be enough to snap her out of it to a degree.


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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2012, 03:12:24 PM »
There's just one problem with your statement there, and that problem is this.
"No matter how badly you want it, sometimes you can't reason with everyone."
Now, if this were a Human-Class demon, then maybe there'd be a shot. But this is an Animal-Class one, a Chimera-Type to exact.
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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #136 on: July 12, 2012, 03:26:13 PM »
You can reason with anyone who is able to think and understand language. The trick is just understanding them and finding the way to reach them. We know this demon wants something, and we just need to find a way to provide it with that in a manner than is ethical. I am...reasonably sure this is the voice that communicated with us beforehand, so we know it's capable of rationality.

Also, given there's no way that Byakuren wouldn't know the story of Sun Wukong, so being "not-human" wouldn't make a difference. Moreso in her case due to the fact she's not likely to think something being inhuman is a "handicap", recall that in canon, B-dawg was sealed away entirely because she treated youkai well, in an era where they were most definitely not considered people by any stretch.

The trick here is going to be to find an in, and I think we can do this. And if not, well, I can think of a way to use our abilities to create an in, just it'd be risky. What this s just going to take some patience, forethought, and effort.

Also, even in the worst case scenario where talking achieves nothing, we get the advantage of learning from whatever it said, which can be used in the future.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #137 on: July 12, 2012, 03:33:35 PM »
Who's to say it doesn't want to make Kiku it's slave, and then devour us? Keep in mind that the woman from before was likely it's underling.
And I don't know about you, but if I were a demon who'd just lost an underling to some broad in a sailor suit or somesuch, I'd want to get a new one as soon as possible, preferably one close to said person, so as to make defeating her easier.

Like it or not, sometimes action is the only way. I may not be near as old as you, but even my few years of experience has taught me this.

And like it or not, if we screw up here, Kiku will end up being one of them.


EDIT: And for what it's worth, being 'Reasonably sure' doesn't exactly instill me with confidence in your plan.
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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #138 on: July 12, 2012, 03:44:48 PM »
Indeed, this is why I am saying we should be trying to reach out to Kiku first. I never said not to do this. My point is we should be trying to affect Kiku, rather than it right now. I never suggested otherwise, and am wondering why you seem to think I have?

My point is we're going to need to consider our action in terms of a larger plan so we don't kneecap ourselves before we start. Which is why I am suggesting we should be trying to reach Kiku rather than strike out against it or the ring at this time. It will do less to hamper the longer term goals. If trying to reach her doesn't get results, then definitely we'll try to affect the ring next.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #139 on: July 12, 2012, 03:47:43 PM »
Well, I've got no problem with bringing Kiku around, but the batsnake's gotta go.

Also, this only just occurred to me, but did you ever consider that the voice from before could have been the Disk we just pasted with the Indirect Shot?
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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #140 on: July 12, 2012, 03:57:58 PM »
That's a point, I hadn't considered it might be the youma. But, given what we've seen of youma so far, the voice seemed to be too composed for that. Particularly since that particular youma seemed more silently hostile than the rest we've seen.

We'll deal with batsnake, yeah. But "gotta go" is not really Byakuren style thinking. But when we're done, one way or another, it'll be handled. Anyways, if you're in agreement on the next step (and please stop me if you aren't)...

>"Kiku! Don't!"

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #141 on: July 12, 2012, 04:04:41 PM »
>But first get between her and the ring.
>"We're here to help you Kiku. No matter what."
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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #142 on: July 12, 2012, 04:12:07 PM »
Oops, forgot that!

>Get between her if she doesn't stop. Get beside her if she does. It's easier to communicate when she's not going to have to talk to our booty, and we're not blocking her view of the probably dangerous snake thing.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #143 on: July 12, 2012, 06:49:11 PM »
Purvis, you're really taking the whole pacifism thing way too far. At this point, you've been all but bashed over the head with the concept that talking just isn't going to work, and we don't have any choice but to fight. If you want to talk, wait until the fight's over and the danger has passed. Or try to talk first, but when the battle begins, that's a bad time for talking.

>Purity beam the damn ring.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #144 on: July 12, 2012, 06:58:37 PM »
>Purity beam the damn ring.

>Don't do this


Guy, that's what we're hoping to do, keep the battle from beginning. This is why we're taking the route of less escalation. What you're suggesting is pretty much the equivalent of cowboying into a hostage negotiation. Let's not sabotage things before we even start. And yes, Byakuren would try this. Because she is Byakuren, because she is a devout follower of an ideology that directly addresses this thing, one who was devout enough in doing what was right over what was convenient enough to get sealed away for it.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #145 on: July 12, 2012, 07:03:22 PM »
And what was right in that case involved a significant deception. Now, I'm not exactly an expert on Buddhism, but for some reason I don't think lying is something Buddhists generally approve of. In this case, what's right involves protecting the world from demonic invaders. Fighting is going to be a necessity.

Also, what the hell do you mean the battle hasn't started yet? We've been fighting for several pages.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #146 on: July 12, 2012, 07:11:46 PM »
No, we've been fighting obstacles and servants. We've not really raised a hand against it, nor it against us just yet. Fighting it may be a necessity. We may be forced into it. That still means we are obligated, by the character's own personality, to attempt the higher path earnestly.  Also, it's pretty fallacious to put deception for the sake of peace in a society that wouldn't tolerate the truth on the same level as preemptive violence.

In short, try to think a bit more ICly before coming up with actions and putting them down. Particularly when the other players have already discussed this and agreed on it.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #147 on: July 12, 2012, 07:15:36 PM »
Um, no, Hanzo pretty clearly does not agree with you on this issue. All you two agreed on was making sure the ring doesn't get to Kiku.

Also, even if you count the actions of its servants as seperate (which I don't, since it was behind their actions and, as such, was attacking us through them), it's pretty clearly attacking Kiku (mentally attacking, but still attacking). I did just have a different idea, though.

>Purity beam Kiku. Hopefull, that'll snap her out of her trance.

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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #148 on: July 12, 2012, 07:22:41 PM »
>Before acting on that, have we seen any evidence that Kiku is under any corruption, as opposed to just highly stressed?

Taking this to PM now.



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Re: Magical Lotus - Mahou Shoujou Byakuren - Episode 2, part 3
« Reply #149 on: July 12, 2012, 08:38:06 PM »
Oh yeah, consider this.
We were attacked by Snakebombs. What's a component of this Chimera-Type? SNAKE.
I'm 100% willing to bet it's already attacked us from beyond sight.
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