Author Topic: Popcorn Mafia (GAME OVER - TOWN WINS)  (Read 28401 times)

Serela

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #270 on: June 27, 2012, 04:37:44 PM »
:I

I do it once and suddenly everyone treats it like the latest thing in fashion.

At this rate I'm just going to shoot someone after I wake up all the way.
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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #271 on: June 27, 2012, 04:46:09 PM »
Ask some questions then?  For sure that's not a bad idea.  Forcing more discussion only helps town.  I'll probably ISO everyone tonight, try and put together reasons why I think they're the alignment I think they are.  Not until tonight though, as I won't be around.  I'm kind of curious as to who you're thinking of shooting.  Totally not going to ask though-I'll find out after the shot.  You are going to hit some scum, right?

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #272 on: June 28, 2012, 12:54:50 AM »
NekoNekoRex has been prodded.

LLD has been prodded.

27 hours to deadline.

Timer.

Serela

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #273 on: June 28, 2012, 01:17:10 AM »
:I

Yeah I'm gonna reread for awhile and then shoot.
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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #274 on: June 28, 2012, 01:30:34 AM »
I'm sketchy on whether or not I should shoot LLD :/

Other then that I'd probably bullet Omba.

One of those two.

Hrm. I really think at least ONE of them is scum. Omba's today in particular I think looks pretty bleh.

Very tempted to shoot Omba right now, which I'm fine with saying because it may be followed up with the actual action within the next ten minutes. If you want to say something, make a post telling me to wait so I don't shoot before you make it.
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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #275 on: June 28, 2012, 01:40:40 AM »
Aaah
Between going out to eat and my sleep schedule ruining me I've been putting this off 3=

Let me see if I can garner anything new from the recent posts
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #276 on: June 28, 2012, 01:43:13 AM »
.... no wonder, nothing has happened since yesterday.

I still think there's a scum between Affinity and Omba

Dan is off the hook I guess since he's clarified a bit better on stuff. He still never looked into the thing with me vs LLD, though, I want to know what he thinks about that.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #277 on: June 28, 2012, 01:47:58 AM »
Go ahead.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #278 on: June 28, 2012, 01:48:58 AM »
I have an incoming wall I've been working on for a while now, give me a couple minutes to finish it.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #279 on: June 28, 2012, 01:53:14 AM »
Affinity ISO: wall incoming

Nameless finding me scum for calling him lame is lame.  That makes him like super lame or something.  Luckily I am a somewhat cool enough guy to tell the difference between lameness and scumminess, but boy do the distinctions blur at times.  Make no mistake, however, for I am still sadly a lamer at heart.
"lame" seems to be Affinity-speak for scum-except there's a difference?  Posts like this are annoying because I don't understand the terminology.  Additionally I said, ED1:
As of right now I'm leaning varying degrees of town on everyone except rawr and Affinity.
I get that scum would be the opposite of town, but it was really only null.  Begins an attack on me that has been pretty stable through the game so far.

Given that I and maybe Neko pretty much advocated the same thing as rawr did back here, LLD's attack (and by extension, Nameless') strikes me as rather selective.  It's like that lame attack on the evils of democracy all over again, but America shall live forever so it's alright.  Would like Nameless to answer to this, since he seems to be following LLD's lead; his lame, passive scumhunting is gradually getting to me.

I wonder why rawr specifically answered Omba's question directed at me just to find him 'leaning scum'; that bothers me, along with him assigning all the lurkers and LLD as scumreads and his more interesting observations as 'not scummy enough to shoot' here.  The fluffiness reminiscient of active lurking is certainly there.

Not that I can pin anything on LLD either since that's just the cool, enigmatic manner in which she plays.  She is indeed the Dudette of MoTK, at least on D1.

I also like Serela's cute jab on Dan enough to think him town; what a one-two punch it is.  I'm such a lamer for that.
Gives some other reads, Serela as town, LLD as null I think and rawr as scummy.

If I was scum I would lie as low as possible, bus all my scumbuddies, and try to win by numbers.
This is the interesting post-if Affinity is scum I'd think Omba would suddenly be a decent shot-since we wouldn't be in LYLO if Omba is town.

Promising a case with 7 hours left in the day (while I'm asleep) is also pretty jerkass, but whatever.  If I had to choose someone other than Omba, Nameless and rawr would come to mind for the standard reasons, though I doubt shooting them would be very beneficial.  I am a lamer and will always be one due to my inauspicious history.
Bold for emphasis.  I know it was still D1, but "for the standard reasons" feels sort of like a cop-out for actual reasons to shoot people.

The only two things interesting about Neko is his original complaint against Conq and his guarding against vigging Nameless.  While I praise the latter, the earlier comes across as nitpicking on word choice, which is rather lame especially given that other people were already on Nameless independently for similar reasons.  He still comes across as one-dimensional with easy LLD hate, a vague accusation that I'm not putting much effort into my scumhunting (without commenting in depth into my other views), and a baffling fixation on the concept of 'manipulativeness' which seems increasingly out of context. 

On Conq, while his D1 seems solid, his D2 raises some questions.  I've noticed that while he had seemingly fruitful exchanges with various people, he doesn't seem to have much to show for them.  In the end, all I can garner from his current reads is that he hates rawr for the average reasons?  There's no evidence as to how his exchange with Nameless or me affected his reads, and he comes off as seeming tentative, an attitude befitting scum.

I still prefer vigging Omba.
Bold part-somewhere between those 2 posts he went from wanting he vigged to praising a scumread (?) for defending against it?  Also starts suspecting Conq right before the shot, while still pushing for Omba's shot as he has been the entire game.  Is it tunneling or bussing?

Uhh... Serela's CMoA?  I think that's the coolest thing I've ever seen this year on MoTK so far.  I think Nameless is pretty much likely town now due to Conq's press on him.  Neko also looks slightly better for going after Conq, though the reasoning behind that was... lame and not convincing at all.  His interactions with Conq (e.g 'manipulativeness') also seem too organic for it to be scum-scum, and so I'm not as focused on Neko now.

Don't think Conq's flip impacts my suspicion on rawr anyway; he was probably lurking hard enough to require his scumpartners to mention him in some way.  Has a scumread on Dan but proceeds to tell Serela not to shoot him?  What?  His LLD case is also too little too lame and not valuable at all.

Still believe that Omba and rawr should be shot.  Will leave Dan for later.
Did Affinity have...4 scumreads at the same time at one point? (Omba, rawr, Neko, myself, though suspicions on me were being dropped since D2 and Neko may have been added to replace me on that list)  The Dan thing hasn't come up yet-and Affinity hasn't posted since then, 25 hours ago.

Overall, the biggest thing is he said he'd bus his buddies as scum then try to coast on cred, and he's been targetting Omba the whole game.  If Affinity turns up scum I'd definitely re-read Omba.  [post-cut edit: re-reading now, posting thoughts at the bottom]

Final verdict: consistent, going after easy targets with the exception of Omba (and Conq right before Serela shot him; question for Serela: is Affinity's suspicion why you shot Conq, or did it contribute in any way?)  Probably scum, would shoot second after rawr.

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Omba would be a decent shot (slipping since D1, and a strong player as well if the suspicions are misplaced), but I do think there are better shots.  If you're dead set on shooting Omba then go ahead, I don't disagree with such a shot.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #280 on: June 28, 2012, 02:08:23 AM »
I have said my piece regarding most of the playerbase except for Dan (due to lack of content); when you say that I'm consistently (?) going for easy targets other than Omba and Conq you are merely  saying that everyone is an easy target other than those two.  It's a lamely looping objection that could apply to anyone in the game currently, including you. 

As for the tentative townread on you, I explained it a bit here.  Quoting your scumread as reasoning to go against LLD was an incredibly cute action that won me over.  I praised Neko for not going for an easy target, which is probably all that he was worth praising for anyways.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #281 on: June 28, 2012, 02:15:06 AM »
Oh I forgot that I was about to shoot someone.

I'm trying to psychoanalyze Affinity from what I know of his meta, but my knowledge isn't complete enough, so I'm sticking with my original thinking that he's town.

##Shoot Omba

hf picking the next shot if you're town, hopefully in that case you can motivate the playerbase to talk, unlike Serela the isolationist!
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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #282 on: June 28, 2012, 02:26:08 AM »
I'm scum btw.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #283 on: June 28, 2012, 02:27:54 AM »
Pretty early shot, but I won't question it.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

capt. h

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #284 on: June 28, 2012, 02:30:02 AM »
"Very tempted to shoot Omba right now."

"Hm? Oh, whatever, go ahead."

"Yeah, well, have fun picking the next shot if you're town, hopefully in that case you can motivate the playerbase to talk, unlike Serela the isolationist!"

Serela raises his gun to Omba's head, pulls the trigger, and commits suicide. Omba takes the gun right out of Serela's cold, dead hands. Horray graverobbing! Giving poor people guns since 1752.

Omba has the gun. Serela is dead. Omba has 72 hours to pick the next target.

Timer.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 02:31:49 AM by capt. h »

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #285 on: June 28, 2012, 02:31:34 AM »
Well then.

I suppose that makes Affinity the scum after all
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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #286 on: June 28, 2012, 02:35:16 AM »
So.
Affinity, No name, Taokaka. Reasons I shouldn't shoot you.
Everyone else. Reasons I should / shouldn't shoot them.
Answers that don't contain more than variations of "I / He is town/scum" are not acceptable.

ActionDan

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #287 on: June 28, 2012, 02:36:27 AM »
awkward rereading when that happened.

Also the death flavor for Serela needs to be more like this:

Quote
The dwindling survivors gathered around NeoSerela, just as they had done around huh what the day before.  And just as yesterday's victim, NeoSerela was getting desperate.  As his doom approached, he took action.  Imitating huh what's antics yesterday, he reached up, grabbed his jaw, and dislocated it!  His mouth flopped around, trying to make its way to his brain to devour it.

Yet for some reason, it didn't work.  NeoSerela flopped around a bit, bleeding heavily, before falling to the floor.  In his last moments, his eyes widened in horror and he tried to say something...  But alas, his dislocated jaw meant that it came out garbled and unintelligible.

Please rectify!

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ActionDan

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #288 on: June 28, 2012, 02:44:09 AM »
.... no wonder, nothing has happened since yesterday.

I still think there's a scum between Affinity and Omba

Dan is off the hook I guess since he's clarified a bit better on stuff. He still never looked into the thing with me vs LLD, though, I want to know what he thinks about that.

LLD quoted it herself earlier, and I mentioned I agreed that it made you look townie.  Omba shot was bad, and I'm surprised that actually happened.  I'm going to look for the quotes. brb.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #289 on: June 28, 2012, 02:49:29 AM »
I have said my piece regarding most of the playerbase except for Dan (due to lack of content); when you say that I'm consistently (?) going for easy targets other than Omba and Conq you are merely  saying that everyone is an easy target other than those two.  It's a lamely looping objection that could apply to anyone in the game currently, including you. 
I don't remember you going after ActionDan, and everyone else I guess was somewhat an easy target (including myself-I'm still relatively new at this)


Oh, forgot about it but I'm going camping on Saturday meaning no internet access until the 4th of July, if the game is still going on then (likely at the rate it's going) I'll need a replacement effective on the morning of the 30th.

-Omba cut-
You shouldn't shoot me because I'm being active, I've been clear on my stances since LD1/ED2, and I'm going through trying to make cases on my scumreads.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #290 on: June 28, 2012, 02:58:45 AM »
I've been parading Affinity and LLD shots since D2.

I think it's pretty obvious one of Affinity and Omba are scum, and since Omba is town that only leaves Affinity to be scum. The case between the two screams "scum vs town". You of all people should be aware of this.

My stance on LLD as been pretty clear too, bad play, refusal to cooperate, impossible to read well, tunnely and hyperagressive using gotcha games to make cases instead of properly scumhunting.

I'd definitely condone Affinity over anyone else right now, though.
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #291 on: June 28, 2012, 03:09:42 AM »
So.
Affinity, No name, Taokaka. Reasons I shouldn't shoot you.
Everyone else. Reasons I should / shouldn't shoot them.
Answers that don't contain more than variations of "I / He is town/scum" are not acceptable.

Because I am not scum, DrRawr he is town

Also shoot affinity

Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #292 on: June 28, 2012, 03:16:02 AM »
Or actiondan, i hav no preference for any order

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #293 on: June 28, 2012, 03:16:56 AM »
Or actiondan, i hav no preference for any order

Literally Crazytalk.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #294 on: June 28, 2012, 03:38:02 AM »
Uh, rawr. You kind of forgot the reasons part. :V

Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #295 on: June 28, 2012, 03:54:59 AM »
ugh i already liked it more when serela had the gun.... fine ill make a post with actual reasoning tomorrow.

Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #296 on: June 28, 2012, 04:13:05 AM »
bleh decided just make a quickie

LLD, would not shoot today, why?
1. got his second prod
2. probably has been posting like he has just to obtain the gun(too fucking obvious)
3. wutscumhunting
4. With the lurking/tunneling/Oneliners id have to say it would be a pretty useless shot for today and could possibly a waste(it would be like shooting px)

Affininty,
1. Honestly conq switching his stances d1 probably threw bardiche off from him originally shooting affininty
2. his #262 reads flailing scum too me, tries to discredit everyone because of conqsflip not actually revealing everything. He cleared IHNN as town for the same reason hes still thinking im scum

Actiondan
i think i already made a post on this except i think hes posted more crazy speculation on scum partners which doesnt seem to useful for some reason

IHNN
I didnt read his affinity thing, i guess it would depend on affinitys flip for me

Neko, Me, you, IHNN(probably) are town and wouldnt shoot.

I would say shoot actiondan or affinity today

ActionDan

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #297 on: June 28, 2012, 04:49:27 AM »
Zero is the harbinger of nothing.

Post #70 doesn't look like bussing.  IHNN and Rawr Prob not scum together
Post #109 first paragraph.  Conq mentions IHNN and Affinity in a similar context.  You just don't do that as scum to your only scum-buddies, it's very non-survivalist.  IHNN and Affinity Very likely not scum together.  (there's more evidence of this everywhere in the thread btw, if you look hard enough)

IHNN + LLD I doubt are a pair.  The slapfight they had was too intense for IHNN + LLD scum. (I don't think IHNN is capable of that with regards to a scum-bud).

I thought I had something with Affinity + Rawr != scum together but after a reread I didn't find it.  It's probably a weaker interaction than I thought at first.

I think It is legit crazy to ever shoot IHNN.  He's town.

Also.

All of Neko/Conq looks like Conq was just playing with Neko.  in the way scum likes to talk about Newb-town.  "why'd ya do that? How about this? and why this?"  stuff that Conq was comfortable to talk about.  So yeah, I'm going Neko town forever too.

That leaves LLD Affinity Rawr. 
Shoot em all.  Start with LLD.


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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #298 on: June 28, 2012, 06:38:48 AM »
I'm worried about the effects not hitting both scum in succession may impart on the perception of my virtual hairy balls.
Scum, please claim. Don't make me go through that.

I'm also getting a transient feeling rawr could actually be town.

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Re: Popcorn Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #299 on: June 28, 2012, 11:38:40 AM »
BT is clearly scum.