Popcorn Mafia (GAME OVER - TOWN WINS)

[Dr Rawr]

wtf serela we shoot scum not town. I would rather that you only shoot omba/actiondan if it really came down to it(possibly one of them scum?). but fuck we still have 20 hours left so quit making waffles

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1978961#p1978961

[Serela]

For that matter, LLD, would you shoot Omba in exchange for me shooting you?

And IHNN.

Would you rather be paired with LLD or Omba? This is relevant.

[Serela]

Rawr:Would you be okay with me shooting Omba if Omba had scanned a signed contract saying (s)he would shoot LLD for me in the event of them being town?

[Conqueror]

Serela what in the actual fuck are you doing
THAT IS NOT HOW VIGS WORK AND WE ARE NOT CHAINING VIGS

"History will judge us kindly because I shall write the history" ~ Winston Churchill

[Serela]

I'm so glad you made this easy for me, Conq.

For I have finally seen the light. Or well, the darklight. It's been oozing all over now that I look at you with sleep deprivation in my eyes.



##Shoot:Conq

[Conqueror]

facepalm.jpg
Fantastic birthday present. Literally terrible. Now I have to make a LYLO decision with my limited time schedule rofl.

So passed my eighteenth year. The sun rose and set, the flag went up and down. And on Sundays I went on a date with my dead friend?s girlfriend. What the hell do you think you?re doing? I asked myself. And what comes next? I hadn?t the slightest idea. At school I read Claudel?s plays, and Racine?s, and Eisenstein. I liked their style, but that was it. I made hardly any friends at school, or at the dorm. I was always reading, so people thought I wanted to be a writer. But I didn?t. I didn?t want to be anything.

[capt. h]

"I'm so glad you made this easy for me, Conq." Serela declares, looking up from his book. "For I have finally seen the light. Or well, the darklight. It's been oozing all over now that I look at you with sleep deprivation in my eyes."

"What are you talking about?" Conq asks.

*BANG*

"Oh. What a fantastic birthday present."

With a thud, Conq's lifeless body hits the floor, scum for all to see.

Serela still has the gun. Conq died. Serela has 71 hours to pick his next target.

Timer.

[Omba]

:colonveeplusalpha:

I have no idea what made you shoot Conq there, but I guess the result is all that counts. :V
I was pretty damn certain you'd shoot LLD (and btw, no, I in all likelihood wouldn't shoot her if you shot me).
Eh, I guess I'll look at interactions now that we have a scumflip.

[Serela]

I was pretty damn certain you'd shoot LLD (and btw, no, I in all likelihood wouldn't shoot her if you shot me).

...wait you were?

Anyway, I highly doubted you'd say yes, but all the weird questions I asked were intended for some sleep-deprivation inspired scumhunt that probably would barely have made sense to even me by the time I woke up. I don't always think straight past midnight. For that matter though, I did have ~*~serious reasons~*~ for shooting Conq, and oh god it's 2:27am. Maybe I'll elaborate in the morning instead >.>;

[Lexicat]

Rawr still needs to be shot. Conq was bussing

Serela providing comprehensive opinions only after he's been misvigged is policy lynch worthy in future games. Just saying.

IHNN is delusional but not sure if scum.

rawr can eat a bullet if he's just going to pop in and post one-liners once every 24 hours (prod received and reading my ass).

Lurkers make this game unfun.


"Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody's around ? nobody big, I mean ? except me. And I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff ? I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That's all I'd do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really like to be. I know it's crazy."

Posts like this make me certain Rawr is scum. but I'm changing my IHNN read for the moment. I think IHNN is town, since Conq was pushing for that shot pretty hard.
 
Where as with Rawr, he says he wants Rawr shot, but where's the flare? Where is the "oomph"?
 
and I need to read Conq again, but I don't know if he even MENTIONS Affinity. Anywhere.
 
I'm going with Affinity/Rawr still, but I don't think anyway IHNN is scum.

[NekoNekoRex]

>Get on
>Expect to do rereads
>Conq was scum
>Gut was right

>mfw

[NekoNekoRex]

We should shoot LLD next

[ActionDan]

"A fine shot" - treebread

Ok so Omba is obvtown because I'm town.  No scum would ever come out with that so fast.

I highly doubt Rawr is scum.  I still think IHNN is town.  I'll have to double-check affinity.  That leaves Neko and LLD.  And LLD is by far the better shot.

[I have no name]

I'm so glad you made this easy for me, Conq.

My first thought: *facepalm*
My second thought: at least Conq is likely to hit scum
*sees flip
Uhhh....didn't see that coming.  Nice shot Serela.

We should shoot LLD next

Either her or Affinity.

I don't think Conq being scum really changes any of my reads-if anything it makes me more unsure on rawr's alignment, but it doesn't change anything else.  I'll probably re-read with that in mind by the end of the day.

-cut-
Any other reasons for Omba being town that don't involve knowing you're town?

[NekoNekoRex]

"A fine shot" - treebread

Ok so Omba is obvtown because I'm town.  No scum would ever come out with that so fast.

I highly doubt Rawr is scum.  I still think IHNN is town.  I'll have to double-check affinity.  That leaves Neko and LLD.  And LLD is by far the better shot.

>Using process of elimination to imply I'm scum for no given reason

[Omba]

Treatment by Conq + the stuff I mentioned earlier means Affinity is scum.

[I have no name]

And IHNN.

Would you rather be paired with LLD or Omba? This is relevant.

Didn't notice this until now-I'm not sure I understand the question.

After re-reading, I still think LLD and Affinity are scummy, rawr not so much although his posting style *really* makes me want to shoot him.  I know shooting him over that isn't a good idea though, but if either LLD or Affinity turn up town for some reason, rawr is still 3rd.

Everyone else is most likely town, I couldn't find anything I disagree with but then again I said the same for Conq so take the latter half of this post with a grain shaker of salt.

[Dr Rawr]

Treatment by Conq + the stuff I mentioned earlier means Affinity is scum.

you mean this magical post?

[Omba]

you mean this magical post?

For example. Or this one.

[NekoNekoRex]

Finally doing individual player analysis

Doing one per post because I'm extremely lazy and I'll undoubtedly quit in the middle of this (or right after post)

Anyways I started with Action Dan.

Now, ignoring the fact that Dan didn't exist on D2, he's been basically all over the place most of the game, with the exception of his suspicion of Conq.

Since I love talking about myself, I'll give an example with his opinions on me.
This Post on Mid D1 shows he thinks I'm scum
In this post he even says he'll look into me for my targeting LLD (which he never does)
He doesn't really say anything else until his post on D2 in which he thinks I'm suddenly genuine town.
Then he doesn't say anything again until now, which suddenly I'm the poorman's scum choice now due to PoE.

Looks pretty inconsistent to me.

Anyways, he's been mostly really consistent on his suspicion on Conq the entire game, which with my tinfoil hat on screams that he's been riding the bus to Conq's house the whole game in case Conq ever got any suspicion put on him.

The verdict is that he leans scum to me.

[NekoNekoRex]

Not going to bother eith the whole "lol ton of quotes and explanations" with Omba

Omba leans heavily town to me, although if Affinity somehow flipped town then I'd probably reverse that opinion entirely. Affinity vs Omba is pretty obviously scum vs town, I'd be damned if one of the two isn't scum somehow.

I believe I've been pretty clear on my stance on LLD so I'm not going to bother with that one either. Playstyle or not LLD's playing recklessly, and is therefore scummy to me.
I'd consider retracting this because I said the same thing with Rawr in the last Anonymafia but overall people who play like that should get lynched regardless of alignment, it doesn't help town when you're obtuse and uncooperative.
I will admit though LLD's been improving bit by bit though, town!LLD is growing on me ever so slightly.

[ActionDan]

Neko, That PoE post wasn't "you guys are definitely scum by defalut"   It was more me thinking about my town reads and checking to see who was left.  I still think you are pretty townie D2 onwards (and even end of D1 after I skimmed)

Still busy for another hour and a bit but..
As of page 5:

Rawr and Affinity are not scum together
IHNN and LLD are not scum together
IHNN and Affinity are not scum together

I'll quote where I got these from later.  They aren't absolutes, but I have strong reason to believe them true.  There are as many ties to LLD being scum with Conq as Affinity being scum with Conq. 

[Affinity]

Uhh... Serela's CMoA?  I think that's the coolest thing I've ever seen this year on MoTK so far.  I think Nameless is pretty much likely town now due to Conq's press on him.  Neko also looks slightly better for going after Conq, though the reasoning behind that was... lame and not convincing at all.  His interactions with Conq (e.g 'manipulativeness') also seem too organic for it to be scum-scum, and so I'm not as focused on Neko now.

Not sure why I'm getting all the flak for *connections* when, if I remember correctly, Conq has not talked much about Omba or LLD either.  I believe such stuff should be two-way, and I doubt Omba or LLD have talked much about Conq either and are therefore suspicious.  Still think LLD has a strong D1 and D2, however.

Don't think Conq's flip impacts my suspicion on rawr anyway; he was probably lurking hard enough to require his scumpartners to mention him in some way.  Has a scumread on Dan but proceeds to tell Serela not to shoot him?  What?  His LLD case is also too little too lame and not valuable at all. Omba's sudden townread on Dan despite his D1 suspicion makes me think better of him, but I still don't like the passiveness he showed on D1 and D2 and the outdatedness of his cases.  Really urgh. 

Yeah everyone is still being annoying with their non-case suspicions (esp Omba who continues to think I'm scum for my case on him despite Dan agreeing that it was legitimate).  Things I said in this post still stand, if you guys had bothered reading it.  Still believe that Omba and rawr should be shot.  Will leave Dan for later.

[capt. h]

50.5 hours to deadline.

Timer.

[Dr Rawr]

Don't think Conq's flip impacts my suspicion on rawr anyway; he was probably lurking hard enough to require his scumpartners to mention him in some way.  Has a scumread on Dan but proceeds to tell Serela not to shoot him?  What?  His LLD case is also too little too lame and not valuable at all.

obviously not what i meant about actiondan. that whole lurking thing sounds as far fetched as llds conq link to me(lol oomph)

[Serela]

oh god why am I awake at 2:21 am again

(This is literally a prod avoid post, since it seems that consensus is the gunbearer should be quiet when he's narrowed down his shot choice, for obvious reasons, so... I don't really have much to say right now.)

I should probably at least come up with more questions to ask, but I'm spent in that category after my... uh, episode. And, IHNN, don't worry about that one >.>;

For that matter, what does CMoA stand for in this situation, Affinity?  :V I have a feeling it's not Choose My Own Adventure, for I somehow doubt there was a sudden unburying of Berkeley's Phantasmagoria, not to mention that it'd be a loose interpretation of the meaning in the first place.

[Omba]

ITT Serela's gut powers only activate at night.
... that is slightly disturbing on a few levels. And by disturbing I mean awesome.

[Affinity]

Crowning Moment of Awesome.  Everyone is lame in comparison.  Including me.

[I have no name]

Serela the were-town scumkiller.

(This is literally a prod avoid post... I don't really have much to say right now and I'm leaving for most of the day.)

Any question that anyone wants to me should be asked within the next hour or so.

[ActionDan]

Pro-dodge