Author Topic: Spell Card Help Topic V: Cheeto Lasers Edition (Read 236444 times)

Chuckolator · « **Reply #180 on:** July 04, 2012, 10:22:15 PM »

Midboss Marisa's 2nd nonspell. Are her movements random?

Seppo Hovi · « **Reply #181 on:** July 04, 2012, 10:31:49 PM »

No, she follows you unless she is against a wall, where she will always move away from the wall.

Plan a path and it's a cake.

Chuckolator · « **Reply #182 on:** July 04, 2012, 10:40:33 PM »

Quote from: Seppo Hovi on July 04, 2012, 10:31:49 PM

No, she follows you unless she is against a wall, where she will always move away from the wall.

Plan a path and it's a cake.

Could have sworn her first movement was away from me once, but I might have been too focused on the walls to realize I was a little to the wrong side. Guess I'll see for myself.

Esper · « **Reply #183 on:** July 04, 2012, 11:14:58 PM »

Cowrie Shell Hard/Lunatic (If you don't remember, IN FinalB)

What the fuck do I do

xForeverFanaticx · « **Reply #184 on:** July 04, 2012, 11:47:13 PM »

Quote from: Ace on July 04, 2012, 11:14:58 PM

Cowrie Shell Hard/Lunatic (If you don't remember, IN FinalB)

What the fuck do I do

Well, from what I can see you have to be on the upper half of the screen, since this time around Kaguya spawns the laser familiars in the lower half. It's pretty much the same dodging, only made "tougher" due to the fact that the bullets are coming from underneath you. And the fact that you can ram into Kaguya. And the fact that you have less space since most shottypes cannot hit Kaguya if you're above her (which would make dodging easier since you have more space). I guess you should practice the spell a bit, learn the spawn delay for the lasers so you know exactly what risks you can take (ie. running through the laser before it activates) and which you cannot.

Can't help too much, since I've only had 1 cap of it so far.

Oh · « **Reply #185 on:** July 05, 2012, 12:49:50 AM »

How do you capture Desire Sign "Score Desire Eater" ? I always time it out and miss the life/bomb pieces. (TD/Reimu F)

Ranko Hoshino · « **Reply #186 on:** July 05, 2012, 12:59:50 AM »

The best way to catch that card is also pretty risky. You'll need to move up close to Yoshika, going between the lasers before the stretch out, so you can gather as many divine spirits as you can which will allow her to heal less.

Zil · « **Reply #187 on:** July 05, 2012, 01:02:34 AM »

It doesn't drop life/bomb pieces, but yes, if you want to capture it you have to get the spirits before she absorbs them.

Tsym · « **Reply #188 on:** July 05, 2012, 01:25:38 AM »

Quote from: xForeverFanaticx on July 04, 2012, 02:43:23 PM

Could somebody help me with Undefined Darkness? I'm having lots of trouble getting back up to the top of the screen to misdirect Nue from side to side after her first 2 bursts. And then she goes ahead to just ram me and murder me. Those dark clouds are scaaaaary...

Bullets can't spawn outside the arena, so you'll have an easier time with the card if you bring Nue to the corners before you bring her downward. That way, you'll have less bullets to deal with. Also note that the bullets spawn as Nue charges, so you can shotgun her a bit from within the dark clouds before you need to dash down to evade the bullets. Other than that, I guess just work on your skills dodging through the bullets. Don't be afraid to bomb it to get the extra clear. It takes a while to get used to it.

Quote from: Oh on July 05, 2012, 12:49:50 AM

How do you capture Desire Sign "Score Desire Eater" ? I always time it out and miss the life/bomb pieces. (TD/Reimu F)

You have to go through the bullets and lasers up and collect half of the blue spirits that spawn around Yoshika before she collects them. Then go back to the bottom of the screen and repeat. It gets much harder on higher difficulties though. Do note that you don't really need to capture this card anyway unlike her earlier cards, seeing as how it's her last card, so you don't get life/bomb spirits by depleting its HP. You can see Malkyrian do it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH8tLPrCreI

Kaze_Senshi · « **Reply #189 on:** July 05, 2012, 05:08:43 AM »

Can some1 give me some tips about the last spellcard (Ressurection X%) of Yuyuko in PCB. I took a look at some replays but the only thing I saw is heavy dodging. This is the 2nd time that I failed to open the extra mode because that card killed me, that red bullets are cruel =(

Seppo Hovi · « **Reply #190 on:** July 05, 2012, 07:53:24 AM »

There are several ways. The best would be to cheese it with bomb/border abuse.
Another, if you are playing normal, would be to swap throught the red waves before they open. However, it needs some practice and is easy to be failed.

Or if you want to do it normally, just dodge at the bottom of the screen. The blue-violet waves should be easy, and you can read the red waves by looking at them while they open.

Also, I suggest you to open Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana (IN card 221) for practice on that card, since it has pretty much the same pattern.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #191 on:** July 05, 2012, 05:56:35 PM »

A trick I learned when I was still a rookie is to border burst right after finishing off Sumizome Blossom (Yuyuko's fifth card) by pressing the bomb button. By doing so, you end up with a bunch of cherry points, which gives you the ability to activate a border on Resurrection Butterfly. It's not much, but it can give you the edge if you're trying to 1cc for the first time.

PapillonReel · « **Reply #192 on:** July 05, 2012, 06:47:44 PM »

So: Pandemonium. How the heck do I capture this thing? I've been beating my head against it for the past two days and I always end up getting clipped at around the last two photos.

Star King · « **Reply #193 on:** July 06, 2012, 02:13:53 AM »

Quote from: Seiga Kaku on July 01, 2012, 08:08:17 PM

Tewi's 1st nonspell and Reisen's last spell are the only things stopping me from getting a perfect stage 5 every time. How do?

Manipulate Tewi into moving right twice, and the red bullets won't be trouble. Then just move into the gaps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUFGt-3spP0&feature=player_detailpage#t=78s

IDK about Reisen's last spell but I like to dodge mostly vertically, but dodging a line by moving in the same direction to the side before they reach you might be good.

I have no name · « **Reply #194 on:** July 06, 2012, 02:24:33 AM »

Quote from: PapillonReel on July 05, 2012, 06:47:44 PM

So: Pandemonium. How the heck do I capture this thing? I've been beating my head against it for the past two days and I always end up getting clipped at around the last two photos.

Dodge, hopefully Suika moves down giving an easy 9th shot and you can then scope shot the 10th.

Invisible Full Moon is easy, just shotgun! (no gap dodging required)

PapillonReel · « **Reply #195 on:** July 06, 2012, 12:03:06 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on July 06, 2012, 02:24:33 AM

Dodge, hopefully Suika moves down giving an easy 9th shot and you can then scope shot the 10th.

I gave it another shot and I finally pulled it off after 1584 shots; I got lucky on my last attempt and Suika behaved long enough for me to scope out the last shot before I got overwhelmed. I figured I just needed to bang my head against it a little more.

Thanks for your help!

Tinyduck · « **Reply #196 on:** July 06, 2012, 03:20:15 PM »

Hi, I have a big problem with Cranberry Trap on EoSD extra stage...
No matter how I do it, I always have to lose a life or deathbomb-abuse on this spell.
Please help me 'w'

BT · « **Reply #197 on:** July 06, 2012, 04:04:51 PM »

Memorization. There's infinity ways to pull it off. Watch replays and pick the path that works best for you.

(The purple waves are static and the blue waves are aimed, so there are several easy ways to consistently beat it. As I said, memorization.)

Star King · « **Reply #198 on:** July 06, 2012, 04:06:36 PM »

What I do is wait near the center, right under where the purple bullets converge. Then go down to dodge the blue aimed bullets. Then watch out for the purple bullets coming from below, then rinse and repeat. Am pretty consistent at it now.

Oh · « **Reply #199 on:** July 06, 2012, 04:18:49 PM »

For Cranberry Trap, the blue bullets are aimed at you, so start at the middle and stream down.
Here's a replay that has most of Flan's cards timeout in the easiest way possible. Ignore the stage and maze of love.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=21915

Star King · « **Reply #200 on:** July 07, 2012, 02:33:47 AM »

Can anyone give me a visual depiction of where the safespot for Eternal Meek is?

Chuckolator · « **Reply #201 on:** July 07, 2012, 02:40:56 AM »

Quote from: Star King on July 07, 2012, 02:33:47 AM

Can anyone give me a visual depiction of where the safespot for Eternal Meek is?

Can't say I've done this myself, but seems legit from what I know.

I have no name · « **Reply #202 on:** July 07, 2012, 02:17:21 PM »

Phantom of the Grand Guignol, waves 2, 3 and the beginning of 4 help please. (how long it takes to capture with Ghost Team)

BT · « **Reply #203 on:** July 07, 2012, 02:39:22 PM »

>Rising World timeout
>halfway there
>CAN'T SEE SHIT

Does it get denser?

I have no name · « **Reply #204 on:** July 07, 2012, 02:42:37 PM »

Quote from: BT on July 07, 2012, 02:39:22 PM

>Rising World timeout
>halfway there
>CAN'T SEE SHIT

Does it get denser?

Rising World is a survival card though...
I think the waves do get slightly denser, I can capture it about 33% of the time but when I fail it's usually with <10 seconds left.

BT · « **Reply #205 on:** July 07, 2012, 03:17:34 PM »

Oh. Silly me, I was talking about Game of Rising.

edit:

Naw, nevermind, waves stay the same. She occasionally throws two waves that are relatively close to eachother but I think that's affected by her movement. Got to T-17 just now, seems doable. Fun with hitboxes~

Kaze_Senshi · « **Reply #206 on:** July 07, 2012, 03:44:11 PM »

That Eternal Meek worked with me, but it is hard to go until the safespot without be killed in the way. And I got 700 of graze in 10 seconds of spell

Tsym · « **Reply #207 on:** July 08, 2012, 06:35:14 AM »

So I think most of MoF is just dodging through small gaps, but I need help with two of Nitori's spell cards: Hydro Camouflage and Spin the Cephalic Plate.

I always seem to crash into something during Hydro Camouflage, as either I see the bright blue bullets overlap in front of/near me, meaning I can't figure out how they're moving and die to them, or I end up crashing into a wall. Any tips other than "find the biggest gap and dodge within it?" Also, is the first wave she fires static? If it is, then at least I have one less wave to worry about :V

And I don't know where to start with Spin the Cephalic Plate other than misdirect. Even still though, is there a specific way to misdirect it so you don't have to dodge through the spinning walls while also having to contend with the popcorn at the same time?

I have no name · « **Reply #208 on:** July 08, 2012, 01:13:40 PM »

Quote from: Tsym on July 08, 2012, 06:35:14 AM

I always seem to crash into something during Hydro Camouflage, as either I see the bright blue bullets overlap in front of/near me, meaning I can't figure out how they're moving and die to them, or I end up crashing into a wall. Any tips other than "find the biggest gap and dodge within it?" Also, is the first wave she fires static? If it is, then at least I have one less wave to worry about :V

And I don't know where to start with Spin the Cephalic Plate other than misdirect. Even still though, is there a specific way to misdirect it so you don't have to dodge through the spinning walls while also having to contend with the popcorn at the same time?

No additional tips, but the first wave is mostly static-the blues are a little differently oriented, but it shouldn't be too hard. The main problem is when Nitori moves down, creating an overlap of waves. This is one of the hardest spells in the game, so I'd suggest a no dodging auto-bomb on it when going for a 1cc.

Again, no consistent method for her last spell, it can be easily 1-bombed. Redirecting the first bunch to the left then sweeping al the way to the right works for the beginning, but ultimately it depends on Nitori's movements.

I have a capture of both in my perfect lunatic Stage 3 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tat7Ms7EQ_M

fsvgm777 · « **Reply #209 on:** July 08, 2012, 05:48:47 PM »

I unlocked Hatate in Double Spoiler. I certainly didn't think I'd get as far as this.

EDIT: Dammit, I thought this was the accomplishments thread... That's what I get for not being 100% awake right now.

Can a mod move this post to the appropriate thread?

Author Topic: Spell Card Help Topic V: Cheeto Lasers Edition (Read 236444 times)

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