Town must lynch the scum to death. (Chelsea and the 7Devils Mafia Game Over)

[Kilgamayan]

Final Day 1 Vote Count

Lord Dechronos (7): Pope Cuckoobeater, Baron Vladmu, El Bobomboi, Pyoa Aaaa, Nuko Do Maron, Baron Vladmu, El Bobomboi, Halloween Alice, Endymion, Eyes of 13 Sages, El Bobomboi
El Bobomboi (1): Lord Dechronos, Endymion, Baron Vladmu, Septentrion Pleiades, Pope Cuckoobeater
Eyes of 13 Sages (4): Pyoa Aaaa, Nuko Do Maron, Pope Cuckoobeater, El Bobomboi, Lord Dechronos, Lord Pumpkinquiche, El Bobomboi, Choker Joker
Pyoa Aaaa (1): Selena Milfall, Eyes of 13 Sages

Baron Vladmu (0): Nuko Do Maron, Selena Milfall, El Bobomboi, Endymion
Selena Milfall (0): El Bobomboi, Pope Cuckoobeater
Halloween Alice (0): Lord Pumpkinquiche
Septentrion Pleiades (0): Pope Cuckoobeater, Choker Joker, El Bobomboi, Lord Dechronos
Endymion (0): Baron Vladmu, Nuko Do Maron
Lord Pumpkinquiche (0): Halloween Alice, Pyoa Aaaa, Selena Milfall, El Bobomboi
Nuko Do Maron (0): Choker Joker, Lord Dechronos, Endymion
Choker Joker (0): Selena Milfall, Eyes of 13 Sages
Pope Cuckoobeater (0): El Bobomboi, Lord Dechronos, Choker Joker, Halloween Alice

Lord Dechronos, Town Time Keeper, couldn't rally back enough before the buzzer sounded!

It is now Night 1. There are 24 hours to send in night actions.

[Sasword]

Oh fuxfiddlesticks. We're not getting full flips? That doesn't look like a vanilla town to me. Unfortunately I have no way of knowing! At least he doesn't sound like a good one? Yeah, that's not really helping me feel better either. Two town PR's as today's wagons sucks.

The night is alive and it belongs to ME the great Eyes of the Sages! Yes you too can look forward to witty satire directed at you and how awful your posts are knowing none of you can fight back or cut me ever again. Ahahaha! Such satire will be incoming after I stop being interupted by 403 errors and problems in service. In fact, I'm not connected right now. Spooky..

[Sasword]

ps that post took 30 minutes to get through ;-;

[Sasword]

Okay let's get our scumhunting music on!

Have I doubt when I'm alone
Love is a ring, the telephone
Love is an angel disguised as lust
Here in our bed until the morning comes
Come on now try and understand
The way I feel under your command
Take my hand as the sun descends
They can't touch you now,
Can't touch you now, can't touch you now
Because the NIIIIIIIIIIGHT belongs to LOOOOOOOOOVEEERRRRRSSS.

Oh yes you and Love is a Battlefield will fuel my night phase  :*

Oh god there's Z-Machine in my votecounts Kilgaaaaaaaa

Lord Dechronos (3): Pope Cuckoobeater, Baron Vladmu, El Bobomboi

Just throwing this out there to say the day practically started the way it ended. Jerk rabbit.

Baron Vladmu (2): Nuko Do Maron, Selena Milfall, El Bobomboi
El Bobomboi (3): Lord Dechronos, Endymion, Baron Vladmu, Septentrion Pleiades
Septentrion Pleiades (3): Pope Cuckoobeater, Choker Joker, El Bobomboi

No vote cast: ME!

Oh man the fact that this was a thing. I think the seperation of people into pro/anti Bobomboi and Septentrion camps was a scummy move. There's my buddy Choker lumped onto Sept like a boss. I can now explain what 'squirmy' meant to me. First of all I was blatantly ignoring the arguments about these two and looking for someone on their wagons that didn't sit right with me. I thought Endymion sounded alright at the time, though my mind is changing about that in comparison to other targets.

This post here displayed a suspicious amount of trying to fit in to me. First of all asking the Baron to explain himself after his quote post, which had already been commented on a bazillion times and was just the obvious thing to say. Followed by the secondary obvious 'stop talking about the PR' statement. If you weren't interested in it though you wouldn't be prodding Baron about what he's doing. It's, what's the word, disingenuous? Something like that. His reason for hopping onto Sept is because 'your vote looks strange'. Weak ass reason meant to be easily discarded as soon as that next post!

There's no reason for him to unvote in this post. He aims a statement at Septentrion that says Sept is still 'weird' which is apparently the reason he was voting him in the first place, but dives off of him to vote for the guy voting Septentrion with him. Because uhm, something. His interaction with Milfall feels funny too. This is actually a kind of sneaky chainsaw if you look at his anti-Pope reasoning. I don't see why Selena is suddenly worth jumping out for.

And that's all his posts! Besides his last wagonhop onto the Eyes because whoooo knooooooows! Let's pretend this is not and OMGuS and ignore Eyes pleading with people to lynch me. Eyes for president!

I supose it's possible that the scum avoided attacking Bombomomi in fear of what she was going to cave into their forheads. Sept seemed like the easier target between them.

Maybe I should read Selena before deciding she's definitely Joker's partner. I dunno it just feels like it fits. Lynch one and check the other later.

More reading after I click my mans. If anyone wishes me to post faster they can ask me to here.

[Sasword]

Oh Eyes I did not wish to interupt your reading but I just wanted to say that your posts are the most intelligent and well-thought out ones I have seen so far. You are marvelous and the townest of them all. The silence means everyone else agrees of course.

[Sasword]

Why thank you night poster, I too agree that Eyes is actually obviously town and everyone should reread the game with this truth in mind.

Reading the game from the start instead of ISO's oh boy! I'll give some inane comments as I go between being distracted by music videos

I didn't like Endymion's RVS Post. It doesn't fit in to me. El Bomba hasn't had a chance to be long-winded yet. Perhaps I am jealous of other eye monsters. I didn't really like Selena's either, but I don't hate it so. I also just figured out why she would ask why Baron didn't vote me or her (3rd 4th on the Quiche)

Some talk about the Baron zzz I wonder how my farm is doing no don't click it focus Eyes! Oh man there's Choker's post but I already punched him in the face earlier. I'll say that I thought Baron's reasons were easy to understand. He voted for the first person to be third on a wagon, and he bolded 'Each player only has one vote' when asked why he wasn't voting anyone else. Questions for the sake of questions is scummy. Maybe if I keep talking about this I can avoid the text walls on the next page.

I agreed with Selena's choice but the reasoning is kind of off. Early partner suspicion? @_@

Haha nevermind Endymion's is worse. "Joker's post is bad. But I'm going to vote the Baron because he is worse." Standard FoS buddy lynch someone else protocol. Or silent support for Selena buddy while distancing by hitting another target? I admit I see everything through Joker Must Die goggles.

As an aside to the Pope's question, which I missed because I assumed it wasn't directed at me, my comments on the situation are in the above post.

What an angry young post this is. Nuko's response to it actually strikes me as passive-aggressively off. I don't like when people say they are 'holding judgement'. He does eventually vote him though. Why didn't this fight get more attention? I wouldn't have known it happened if I hadn't read this page. Definitely think something's going on here.


For now these are my current suspicions of scum levels.
TownyScum: Neko Do Maron. Out of the people who come off feeling sensible, I feel like the kitty is the closest to the guy who sounds reasonable but is actually pursuing the evil agenda. I don't really have a reason for this beyond gut, even after reading the game. But he is the town seeming one I keep looking back at oddly.
MidScum: Endymion, maybe Pope Cuckoolander. I think the Pope comes off more random then scummy. The comments about GUT and etc aren't very good excuses like a scum would need, but his flailing does come off as looking for random reasons to hit people. Endymion is a little defensive and ragey and after reading his fight with the cat I'm not so sure I hate him anymore. Need more research
LurkScum: Choker Joker, Selena Milfall Choker must die. I don't even think I've hit another Selena post yet. ?_? It's all connections to other people because Selena themselves isn't around.

I'm running out of time to analyze stuff before the night phase ends. Away to the batcave where all good townies sleep. I'll keep reading when I'll be sadly interupted by loudmouth suspicious people.

PS I'm putting this out as late as possible in order not to change anyone's night choices or the scum nightkill. If the kitty died during the night it would make me look silly but at least I'd worry less.

[Kilgamayan]

I am presently not at home and will not be home before the 24-hour interval ends. I am also busy and have a rather low phone battery. Given this, I will be updating the game a few minutes late. My apologies to all players for the delay.

[Kilgamayan]

U-uhh...Halloween Alice, Town Seedy-Looking Human, was...um...killed overnight. ...S-Sorry...

It is now Day 2. With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. You have 72 hours to vote.

[Kabuto]

gaaaaaaaaahhhhh

why does my #1 scum have to have the exact same picks on scum as me :ohdear:(except joker)

[Kabuto]

also where did Lord Dechronos crumb his role?

[Kabuto]

and possibly pope idk about him

[Halloween Alice]

 
there goes several hours spent writing up a post overnight
... whatever, I'm too adorable for this game anyway ...

[Sasword]

Why does scum always take the adorable things away? ;_;

Perhaps, my dear pumpkin, it is because your #1 scum is town.

I haven't even gotten to Alice's posts yet. I just got to her cute little unvote. I will give her a scan before I decide where to vote for Joker.

[W]

We get a bah post?
Well, then I suppose I shall say th-

[Kick Hopper]

Derp, went and left to watch Avengers instead of casing during the night when it should've been pretty obvious that I wasn't going to get killed over Alice seeing as I have Pleiades hating on me while absolutely nobody wanted the fuzzy huggable thing's lynch. Plus I'm pretty everybody knew who that was so yeah.
I guess the thought of at least one scum running around Nuko/Endymion/Baron/Alice due to believing that not all scumteam could've possibly lurked the hell out of D1 and my early town read kept me wary of her and I wasn't seeing her as entirely town anymore. Blegh.

The little mafia stuff that's been running through my head whenever I was not watching an awesome movie includes being pretty unwilling to lynch Joker today for the same reasons I gave on Quiche yesterday, I'm pretty sure I know who we're dealing with and lynching him is another absolute crapshoot. I'd only really consider lynching him today if I have nothing on somebody else or I suck badly enough that nobody else is willing to lynch my scumreads/the other wagon looks obvtown to me by the end of the day.

Disliking lynches on Quiche and Joker maims chances of hitting scum badly if they happen to be scum, but there should be at least one more scum left to hunt even if they're both scum so I'd rather focus on doing that than aiming for horribly uncertain flips based on unhelpful playerstyles.


Eyes, I know you were having fun with your night talk thing, but all that joking could also be interpreted as trying to cascade the idea of you being town, and doing so when I had mentioned that bias just before the lynch yesterday is pretty bad. Don't do that.
Also your considering read on Nuko is probably due to availability of the idea in Endymion's later posts in the day. I also felt tempted to reread the giant cat over the night but completely disregarded spending the hour or so I had before the night end doing so because I figured there were high chances of getting killed, but I guess my scumhunting still isn't that great that I'd be more of a threat to scum than experienced players. Commenting this just to avoid unnecessary cascades and get people to scumhunt a little more bias-free, including myself.

Fakeedit: Just noticed this could be considered a chainsaw but I'm going to be rereading Nuko as well as Baron and Endymion anyway and I might dislike the cat myself and want it lynched when I'm done so whatever. It's worth the risk if the comment can avoid stupid cascades defining the wagons at the end of the day and avoid another mislynch.


Pope, I know we've had our things and you dislike my acting like the towniest of them all, I guess I just let myself smug up when people seemed to start reading me as town after the initial conflict I generated and I apologize for that. Would you be willing to build your case on Eyes further than the votepark thing now that he's said a lot more stuff? If not for anything else, it'd help get him lynched if you really still want him lynched.


Oookay. Reread goes. First is the happenings between Dechronos' first out-of- RVS vote and Pyoa's voting him as first on the wagon.

My gut read on Milfall gets sort of confirmed after reviewing Alice's case on her and seeing that the only mention to Dechronos' post being bad before his is Nuko's own reply to the vote (since Dechronos had voted Nuko, yeah, just in case anybody's too lazy to look back there), which everybody was just ignoring in the light of all of the Me/Baron/Pleiades jazz going on at that time. Seeing this, calling Pyoa's vote on #76 "vulturing on the general opinion" in her #132 is an absolutely fabricated and kneejerk tell. Even Joker's Pope vote looks good in light of that, which is... fuck.

I was trying to read Endy now, but I think I'll leave it at this for tonight and move onto reading the Nuko/Baron/Endy somewhat active trio when Eyes' recent opinions stop lurking in the back of my head. Actually I'm sure there's no way I could find them worse than Milfall even if I read them right now so holding my vote on her until rereading everybody again is dumb.

##Vote: Milfall

All the other nonexistant people need to get in here and post, there's simply too many of you for all of you to be scum and those of you who are town should be freaking trying.


Also Eyes, I don't know if I'm just not getting what you're trying to say or if you're keeping it as classified information for whatever reasons, but in case it's the first one, could you clarify this bit for me?

I didn't really like Selena's either, but I don't hate it so. I also just figured out why she would ask why Baron didn't vote me or her (3rd 4th on the Quiche)

Fakeedit again: Holy damn how do I always end up posting walls like these? I didn't even read up on all the people I intended to. Will try to tone down on length since it already made things difficult for people catching up at the deadline yesterday.

[Sasword]

Eye didn't know who that was! Eye still don't know actually. I attribute it to a tendency for people to shoot the quiet but sensible voice in the dark. It says good things about Endymion since Alice rather liked him.

Knowing who a player is doesn't stop them from being scummy. I imagine the people you're thinking of sound just as scummy when they're scum. Give me a reason beyond knowing who's who to not lynch the Joker.

I have no idea what joking you are referring to. The night poster simple appreciates me more then you do. Think of it is positive reinforcement to combat the negative effects of other nasty people assuming my guilt. Also it motivates me so :p

Also apologizing for being townie is silly and you should feel silly. You're doing great.

[Sasword]

It's not classified. Perhaps I just explained it badly? I thought Selena's post didn't make any sense at first. I didn't understand how her and myself equated to your third vote on the wagon. Our votes came after the votecount was posted, so after reading and couting I got it. (I wasn't watching the wagon. I just wanted to make the joke about voting a pumpkin.) I'm not sure if I would prefer Selena over the other suspects. I plan to judge them based on contributions today.

[Skull]

apologies on my absence yesterday.  looks like I've been slacking off too much and fell asleep before the deadline :ohdear:

just to clarify, although pyoa aaaa's dechronos thing was okay-ish it wasn't anything amazing; his lack of priorities (indifference to ordering) and his reporting of all the other cases gave off coasting vibes.  i understand that me feeling slightly better about pope is strange in light of the above but i felt he was more overt in his attack against me and eyes (saying that my vote was an RVS one)

the thing about choker joker and quiche is that their eyes/dechronos decision had no precedent, and that it feels like scum trying not to lynch the townie.  not that im one to talk, but they stand out among the others as participants in the wagons yesterday.

if i were around the previous day i would have voted dechronos.

im done with the tidbits, will get a vote out soon.

[Kabuto]

errrr do you mean precedence? well not that it matters in either case its wrong

[Kick Hopper]

Scratch going to bed, got hungry, ate and shouldn't sleep right after that so clearly the solution is to spend a while continuing Mafia while the foodstuff has yet to reach my brain and I'm sleepy. I should kinda get as much stuff done now anyway since I'll be out for an important part of the day tomorrow so yeah.

Knowing who a player is doesn't stop them from being scummy. I imagine the people you're thinking of sound just as scummy when they're scum. Give me a reason beyond knowing who's who to not lynch the Joker.

You're being stubborn here, scumtells cease to be scumtells if they always apply to the player due to terrible playstyle. Also remind me what you think of Quiche in that regard.
...Nevermind I'm looking for that myself. You went after Quiche for quite a while when you popped up during mid-D1 and said you wanted to destroy the Pumpkinqueer in #154, but in #204 you're not sure whether he's scum or not, and right after say that everybody other than Joker sounds town in #206. If we follow this train of thought as "want to lynch Quiche because annoying playstyle" it makes sense, but raises the question of why you thought he was worth wasting your time on instead of hunting when you had little time. Following it as "want to lynch Quiche because scummy" early and read wavering later on after we've all publically expressed our unwillingness to lynch him because god knows what the hell he'd flip seems like following the general opinion, which raises the request to clarify exactly what went on there in your head.
I don't think scum would rather get a mislynch Joker, given the player, over Dechronos, who was probably busy and could've probably provided more decent content later on, but that's still pretty off and ignoring it would be bad.


Okay, this is going to sound really, really freaking stupid as I've commented many times before, I probably should've done so earlier instead of now when it could seem like an attempt to reinforce my vote on her, but I kinda crumbed it in most of my gut mentions on her since forever and it's going to keep lingering in my head unless I comment on it so I'm just going to drop the -stupid- bomb and see if anybody can knock some sense into me on this one.

It... feels like Milfall is forcing herself to write full lower case.

[Kabuto]

where did lord whatshisname crumb his role again?

[Kick Hopper]

It has taken me forever to decide whether to put that out there or not and when I finally disregard the police and post it, I feel like I shouldn't have 5 seconds later.

@Quiche
Comment on Dechronos crumb.

Cut by same question there you go.

About that case on Eyes...

[Kabuto]

I dont get it but if you guys say so....  :wat:

[Skull]

*sighs* mannn... it's hard to be someone else when you are still in fact the same.

yesterday's main wagon was actually quite uninteresting.  eyes and dechronos were suspects who were easier to attack than joker or quiche, eyes got better while dechronos got stuck to the past, people shifted to the latter and he flipped town.  The movement is quite logical regardless of alignment... perhaps focus should be placed on people who chose dechronos over eyes before eyes got better for questionable reasons (e.g pyoa aaaa).  Sure, Pyoa Aaaa end of day post yesterday on Dechronos was a reasonable conclusion to all that had happened, but the fact that he selected Dechronos over Eyes earlier in the day for no especial reason still feels bad in hindsight. 

##Vote: Pyoa Aaaa

Another interesting thing is Joker was being ignored and stuff day one, accepted by some as a fringe candidate but never really seriously pursued (e.g Nuko, Eyes, Bomboiboi, Septenrion) under the pretext that LAL on D1 is bad.  Dechronos posted the wrong thing at the wrong time and so everyone shifted onto him happily, town and perhaps scum alike.

still not understanding how quiche and joker found dechronos townier than eyes, and their refusal to give an explanation bothers me so.

will take lead from other people's posts.

[OOO]

Reading about, I find I can't really agree with Septenitron or Poya

Septentrion's posts feel reporty and somewhat gotcha-y, while Poya is a bit of a gut feeling, I suppose
Not really sure what to think about Eyes now that he's revealed he's insomniatic. I'm feeling a bit off my game today, I guess.

I'm going to place my ##Vote down on Septentrion

[OOO]

I guess it would do me good to put more reasoning down on my vote, at least. It's also kind of gutish, but I feel like a vote on her would be more justified as well.

dumbfakeedit: This is really hard, actually, especially when I'm busy. I've been sitting with this empty post for the last hour. I think I just need to sleep on it. My mind is essentially running a blank. I feel bad at mafia today.

[Sasword]

I can't remember the last time Sept even posted. :V What parts of Sept and Pyoa's posts do you disagree with? I'm an insomniac every game. This time I just happen to also post at night. <.<!

El Bomba: At some point the argument changed from trying to find scumtells from the pumpkinquacker to trying to make him stop tunneling on me because he's a SPECIAL PERSON. I think it was a worthwhile argument just for getting content out of him. Out of me too I supose.

I think you're right about the forcing lower caps. :V I don't see why it matters, wanting to disguise your identity could just be a fun game. I didn't think Alice or Vladmu were scummy for their u-umu sexy styles.

[Ouja]

Pope, I know we've had our things and you dislike my acting like the towniest of them all, I guess I just let myself smug up when people seemed to start reading me as town after the initial conflict I generated and I apologize for that. Would you be willing to build your case on Eyes further than the votepark thing now that he's said a lot more stuff? If not for anything else, it'd help get him lynched if you really still want him lynched.

I actually don't remember this, but anyway, no, I don't want him lynched anymore.

I'm not quite done reading and I'll be gone for the next 10 hours, so hopefully I'll have a 'post' up then. For now I'm feeling off with Milfall and Maron but I need to review stuff. I also need to read Pyoa and maybe Choker again if he shows up.

Speaking of which, the third pumpkin better post something substantial soon.

[Kaku Seiga]

The Dechronos wagon picked up after El Bobomoi's vote putting him ahead of Eyes of 13 Sages. I would say that was the cue for scum to pile on. El Bobomoi's on and off makes him look better in terms of not securing a mislynch. I don't think Endymion's vote on Lord Dechronos is that well justified. Nuko do Maron's lynch clearly wasn't going to happen, so the choice was perhaps between Lord Dechronos and Eyes of 13 Sages. How does Eyes of 13 Sages proving the night talk ability make the player any less scummy? The way you applied process of elimination is weak and I don't buy that you really thought Lord Dechronos would flip scum. Eyes of 13 Sages also made a poor vote hop. At the time it was 5 Lord Dechronos and 4 Eyes of 13 Sages. If Eyes of 13 Sages was town, I think making solid posts would be a better way to ensure the wagon didn't swing over instead of making what amounts to a not-me-over-me vote. As scum there's every reason for Eyes of 13 Sages to get the vote on the opposing wagon for steamrolling.

Choker Joker's final vote chose Eyes of 13 Sages based on what he read of the cases. Who's cases did you read and why did you agree with them? It certainly wouldn't have mattered that much to you if you're scum and both wagons were town. I think a town player would actually have read the players in isolation before making the choice instead of reading the cases. If the flip happens and you were wrong, then you blame the person who made the case.

Pyoa Aaaa parroting Halloween Alice for a reason to stay on Lord Dechronos is horribly scummy. You don't say anything about what you're agreeing with. The linked post is outdated. Halloween Alice wasn't voting Lord Dechronos or even calling him scum in that post.

The people who were interested in a lurker lynch between Choker Joker and Pyoa Aaaa yesterday could do well to explain why they chose one over the other. This is sufficiently interesting enough for a post now.
##Vote Pyoa Aaaa

[Kilgamayan]

why am i awake right now

Selena Milfall (1): El Bobomboi
Pyoa Aaaa (2): Selena Milfall, Septentrion Pleiades
Septentrion Pleiades (1): Nuko Do Maron

Not voting: Everyone else

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. You have less than 59 hours to vote.