Author Topic: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)  (Read 85204 times)

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning scenes (recorded through 12-8 except 10-8)
« Reply #300 on: August 02, 2012, 12:45:42 AM »
Replay for the 10-8?  I did some testing under the same circumstances mine was done under and it was running at roughly 50 FPS while displaying the numbers 56-63, so I may have inadvertently TASed it >.<  Since you've tied it (definitely not TASed as opposed to maybe TASed) I'll go with that one.

edit: I'm calling it here on all submissions aside from major (read: .25+) improvements on the unrecorded scenes, assuming you have the replay for that Ridley.

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning scenes (recorded through 12-8 except 10-8)
« Reply #301 on: August 02, 2012, 12:55:40 AM »
Almost didn't save it since I misread the current best. Good thing I did :V

10-8, 176.75
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22954

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning scenes (recorded through 12-8 except 10-8)
« Reply #302 on: August 02, 2012, 01:00:29 AM »
Barring any major improvements, final time is 45:26.89 after taking into account catfish's improvement below.

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning scenes (recorded through 12-8 except 10-8)
« Reply #303 on: August 02, 2012, 09:10:52 AM »
EX-4, 183.15
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=22963

:justasplanned: I guess this is my last submission to the project then. It's been fun. Looking forward to verification and seeing the run published. Outstanding efforts everybody, cheers!!
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (recording complete!)
« Reply #304 on: August 02, 2012, 04:58:13 PM »
All scenes recorded!
What, you need proof?
Here.
Also, have the folder containing every single replay and the Excel spreadsheet I've used to track everything.

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (recording complete!)
« Reply #305 on: August 02, 2012, 05:09:02 PM »
Amazing! What happens next?

I noticed that you forgot to update the times for EX-7 in the excel spreadsheet, but the replay seemed to be the correct one at least.
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (recording complete!)
« Reply #306 on: August 02, 2012, 05:24:46 PM »
Amazing! What happens next?

I noticed that you forgot to update the times for EX-7 in the excel spreadsheet, but the replay seemed to be the correct one at least.
Whoops.
Fixed that, true final time is 45:25.29

Next part involves putting together the video, which will take a little while.  I have most of the music choices selected and Ozzy is getting me downloads of them, and from there I just put in a 'title card' for each of the replays followed by the replay.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (recording complete!)
« Reply #307 on: August 02, 2012, 06:00:45 PM »
Awesome. Any estimates on time, or is it just too early to tell?
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (recording complete!)
« Reply #308 on: August 02, 2012, 07:51:50 PM »
Awesome. Any estimates on time, or is it just too early to tell?
Early ETA is the 14th but that could be off by a week in either direction.

edit: edited through Stage 5 7 8.
All editing complete except the credits.  This could easily be done before the end of the day.
Editing complete!

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video fully edited!)
« Reply #309 on: August 06, 2012, 03:37:19 AM »
What more do you have to do then?
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video fully edited!)
« Reply #310 on: August 06, 2012, 03:39:54 AM »
What more do you have to do then?
compress and encode to HD.  Can't exactly upload a 45 GB video to YouTube,and I might as well get it to HD.  You've waited this long, a few more days can't hurt (besides, I gave an ETA of the 14th.  It'll definitely be up before then)

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video fully edited!)
« Reply #311 on: August 06, 2012, 03:42:09 AM »
I see. I'm not familiar with this process at all, so wasn't sure what else needed to be done. <_<
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video fully edited!)
« Reply #312 on: August 06, 2012, 01:05:50 PM »
compress and encode to HD.  Can't exactly upload a 45 GB video to YouTube,and I might as well get it to HD.  You've waited this long, a few more days can't hurt (besides, I gave an ETA of the 14th.  It'll definitely be up before then)

Waiting warmly...

What about making the submission to SDA? How will that be handled?
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video fully edited!)
« Reply #313 on: August 06, 2012, 02:57:25 PM »
Same way as the youtube video, only with a lot more administrative stuff and a different method of compression.  Oh, and no editing.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video fully edited!)
« Reply #314 on: August 11, 2012, 07:53:59 PM »
Bit of a delay on it, the first video render ended up messed up, so it's going through again.  With luck it'll still be up by the 14th but I can no longer guarantee that.

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video fully edited!)
« Reply #315 on: August 13, 2012, 11:35:18 AM »
Great news guys:

DSDQ VIDEO HERE

I'd appreciate it if everyone would go check it out, and if you like it then support the video via liking, favoriting, commenting and subscribing to show your support and appreciation for all the effort I put into this

Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #316 on: August 13, 2012, 01:02:13 PM »
This is awesome!!

But I couldn't help to notice that 5-5 was incorrectly credited to Seiga instead of Random and 5-6 to Random instead of Ridely.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2012, 01:04:49 PM by 大ナマズ様 »
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #317 on: August 13, 2012, 01:10:46 PM »
But I couldn't help to notice that 5-5 was incorrectly credited to Seiga instead of Random and 5-6 to Random instead of Ridely.
I'm flattered, but you should really fix that with annotations. <_<

My youtube comment sums up my feelings about this, I think. Congrats to everyone who helped out!
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #318 on: August 13, 2012, 01:14:55 PM »
asdfasdfasdfasdfa

I thought I made sure not to mess up any of those.
I'll fix 5-5 and 5-6 with annotation when I get there in annotating the video. (Currently through Stage 3 on that)

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #319 on: August 13, 2012, 01:55:41 PM »
Congratulations on a job well done you lunatics.


Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #321 on: August 13, 2012, 05:07:53 PM »
I made a 0.64 second improvement on EX-9, I spotted a mistake in strategy from my run in the video  :ohdear: I also think it indeed is possible to do away with the whole stalling up to the penultimate photo business using a bolder strategy for the earlier photos.

Are we going to be doing the Hatate IL or StB IL speedrunning next?  :V
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #322 on: August 13, 2012, 05:10:57 PM »
I think StB next, chum would kill me if I went for Hatate next  :V

Though I need a break from tracking all the info, probably for the rest of the month.

September is a likely starting point I think (though feel free to pre-prepare some StB ILs  :D)

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #323 on: August 13, 2012, 06:38:56 PM »
Camera-Shy Rose Timeout

Why? Because at 30:55, you dared the viewer to time out Camera-Shy Rose. Whether it was a joke or not, I went for it and did it so HA.

Also, some of the strategies in this video are ridiculous. I can't even believe how someone would come up with routes like these.
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #324 on: August 13, 2012, 06:40:54 PM »
Camera-Shy Rose Timeout

Why? Because at 30:55, you dared the viewer to time out Camera-Shy Rose. Whether it was a joke or not, I went for it and did it so HA.
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #325 on: August 13, 2012, 08:49:19 PM »
Awesome job, everyone! I very much enjoying the end results! Keep up the good work! :toot:
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #326 on: August 14, 2012, 04:16:12 AM »
Said it on Youtube, but I'll say it here. Great work guys. You really took these things to the limit. (I seem to recall some joking about no defensive shots on that one Byakuren scene, then it actually happened. :o)

There's only one scene I can think of a potentially easy improvement for, and that's Ichirin's first nonspell. I discovered once, when trying to score the scene, that you can stand among the lasers in the blurry ring where they all spawn. Clearing the scene without ever unfocusing should be simple using that strategy. A bit late I guess, but maybe in the future.

In any event, I'm looking forward to a similar thing for Shoot the Bullet.

btw, you can timeout Camera Shy Rose by running in big clockwise circles. I might even say, "no dodging needed."
« Last Edit: August 14, 2012, 04:17:50 AM by Zil »

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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #327 on: August 14, 2012, 04:45:55 AM »
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #328 on: August 14, 2012, 09:27:35 AM »
Some notes...

EX-5 is my favorite scene in the video (that I did), because of how well it went with the music and because I'm confident that the time is OK. (Random's 7-4 is one of the biggest highlights in the whole thing for me, because it's crazy and he went beyond what I though was possible for that scene.)

In EX-4 the Hatate WR goes around Reimu in the even closer tier and can snap photos without having to move out of the way of the blue barrier, which could probably be faster than what I'm doing, since I have to move out of the way. I can't tell if its actually possible to snap photos at all times while doing that strategy though.

I'm a bit sad that the strategy I found in SP-9 didn't end up being used in the final submission, despite being potentially faster (providing good execution, of course) as far as I can tell.

My play in 8-8 and 7-1 looks way too sloppy.

6-5 isn't static, or it sort of is, but the whole pattern has a random orientation each time. It's just another luckshit strategy.

I was able to tie Random's 4-5 time using the same strategy, and by going into one of the cells closer to Nitori after the first shot you can get a small gain in camera recharge over the current strategy, it's quite challenging to pull it off though, and then you have to dodge one ring of big bullets too before you can snap the photo.

3-2 and 3-3 are maybe the only scenes that never saw any improvements from their first submission? And they were some of my earliest submissions too. In 3-3 I break the charge to avoid the swarm of kunai before the final shot, I guess doing something stupid like dodging through the kunai swarm would improve it.

And something which I didn't say before because I though someone would go and beat my time if I did:
Spoiler:
I did the EX-8 submission on my second try :P

Yeah...

I'm getting worried about the verification process, apparently stuff gets rejected if its not optimized enough. With that said, I made a 0.82 second improvement to 5-7 just now. Pretty cool looking change to the strategy; sitting against the right side of the screen after the first shot and getting completely obscured by lasers like in the WR scoring runs in order to get more recharge by getting said lasers in the second shot. But after that point I'm not sure if my route is the best anymore, perhaps going diagonally above Ichirin and switching to horizontal camera alignment will save time in getting the third shot off while still catching the next brofist. Maybe even 102.xx could be attained?

Can I keep posting replays to the thread? Could be nice for people to have more resources if they want to improve the times.
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Re: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!)
« Reply #329 on: August 14, 2012, 02:33:08 PM »
Yeah, sure.

I still have no idea how to submit a run (looking into it though) so I can re-record some scenes that got improved.

So apparently I have everything ready for a submission now, post the improvements you already have because it would be silly to not include them (read: anything you already finished, 3-3 and 5-7, maybe 7-1 as well but that'd look basically the same) and then I'll submit the run.  Personally i didn't see a problem with 8-8.

12-2 only ever had 2 ILs-mine and the .09 improvement near the end.