Author Topic: Double Spoiler: speedrunning individual scenes (DSDQ video on Youtube!!!) (Read 85204 times)

BT · « **Reply #30 on:** May 03, 2012, 07:02:33 PM »

11-1 - 171.12 - http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20739

Optimal-ish.

It's like Kanako goes easy on you the closer you are to her face. :V

ARF · « **Reply #31 on:** May 03, 2012, 07:09:36 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on May 03, 2012, 06:22:45 PM

If it's beyond you, why is not beyond me?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20733
181.70 left if anyone wants to challenge my time

and fixed.

Sweet. I was going to request someone to do this.

5-8, 96.14
Holding the second to last shot longer might have made this faster.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20735

6-5, 100.01
Waited on to the second to last shot for a bit, probably made it slower.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20737

11-7, 176.10
Filling in a blank.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20738

ExPorygon · « **Reply #32 on:** May 03, 2012, 07:30:12 PM »

Ok, time for me to make a contribution:

4-3: 92.57 http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20743 This one can definitely be improved but here's a starting point.

ARF · « **Reply #33 on:** May 03, 2012, 08:01:05 PM »

Quote from: Ozzy on May 03, 2012, 07:30:12 PM

Ok, time for me to make a contribution:

4-3: 92.57 http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20743 This one can definitely be improved but here's a starting point.

Thanks for inspiration!

4-3, 94.36
This amazing strategy requires almost no dodging, but the time can still be improved.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20745

Chuckolator · « **Reply #34 on:** May 03, 2012, 08:22:45 PM »

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20747

7-6, 86.82. Decent starting point, could probably be improved a bit.

Zil · « **Reply #35 on:** May 03, 2012, 08:50:08 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on May 03, 2012, 06:22:45 PM

If it's beyond you, why is not beyond me?

Clearly it is because you are Asian, as evidenced by the grammar in that sentence.

I gave that a try and captured it, but you still beat me by 9 hundredths of a second.

I have no name · « **Reply #36 on:** May 03, 2012, 09:18:15 PM »

Quote from: Zil on May 03, 2012, 08:50:08 PM

Clearly it is because you are Asian, as evidenced by the grammar in that sentence.

But I'm not :V

4-7, 94.19
This could probably be done better.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20750

6-4, 99.84
Suika...why does density manipulation let you do that?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20751

7-5, 85.84
The only parts that matter are first 2 photos and the last one.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20753

SP-1, 18.56
So much button mashing. Could be done faster, but I had about a half dozen 18.55's before I got this.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20754

SP-5, 18.52
Hatate has a screen that must be Z'd through, so no ctrl-Z to do it faster.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20755

SP-9, 161.76
This is a hard one, but I never stopped charging and had only minor delays going for photos.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20757

Updating table through this post, it'll take a while though.

BT · « **Reply #37 on:** May 03, 2012, 09:20:32 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on May 03, 2012, 09:18:15 PM

6-4, 99.84
Suika...why does density manipulation let you do that?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20751

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12581.msg825800.html#msg825800

:$

ExPorygon · « **Reply #38 on:** May 03, 2012, 09:21:41 PM »

I've got more:

4-7: 94.33 http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20759

I feel like I'm just bad at taking pictures as soon as they're ready so this one feels like it can be improved.

~~Damn you No Name for sniping 6-4 but at least I beat you at 4-7.~~

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #39 on:** May 03, 2012, 09:30:20 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on May 03, 2012, 05:20:03 PM

Ridley, I beat your 2-6 in a couple of tries, by dodging through the blues :V

Guess I should have waited :V

Quote from: I have no name on May 02, 2012, 07:21:50 AM

1-6: 86.40 by I have no name

This time was reported incorrectly, as the scene actually ends at 81.40 (see below).

Quote from: I have no name on May 02, 2012, 07:21:50 AM

2-4: 99.15 by 大ナマズ様

This is my run, 大ナマズ様's name was accidentally left instead.

1-6: 81.71 s
The wave for the last photo pushes you away, so staying close enough to take the photo right away can be a little tricky.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20748

3-1: 98.79 s
I decided to try and enter the red bullets for the second photo, which got me killed most of the time. Still a delay on the last photo, but doing that one faster will be tough.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20749

3-4: 95.35 s
Might be possible to lower the time by crossing in front of the reflected bullets rather than going behind them.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20752

3-8: 95.67 s
Just have to stay in the middle and hope an umbrella (?) doesn't spawn above you.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20756

I have no name · « **Reply #40 on:** May 03, 2012, 10:11:17 PM »

@BT, missed that one
@Ozzy I think that one can fall to 94.50
@Ridley The bigger the table/the bigger the update, the greater the odds of a mistake are.

57 scenes down if my count is correct, meaning we're more than halfway there!

ExPorygon · « **Reply #41 on:** May 04, 2012, 03:43:35 AM »

5-3: 87.81 http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20768
It might be improvable? I'm not quite sure, but this was the fastest I could do it.

Chalros22 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 04, 2012, 05:17:48 AM »

I feel like an ass doing this but

Chalros EX-6 147.59 remaining

I took 1 defensive shot as well but I guess it came out a tenth of a second faster at the end. I definitely think it can be done without one but its very luck-based and since the Z key just popped off of my laptop today I wont be throwing runs away for nothing until I find a way to fix it (I can still use it some but the actual button part is about to come off so I need to be careful for the sake of playing other Touhous and other games). God I can't wait til I can get a new computer... must remember to backup all Touhou game data and stuff.

Also
SP-5 19.54 remaining

Couldn't get SP-1 though

Also I was trying 12-2 "Purple Mirror" (inspired by No name's post in another thread) and got this one where I missed the final shot because panic but I figured I'd throw it out there for people to look at the strat. Not completely sure if it would shave anything off so it might not be worth trying but w/e. My final shot began within a tenth of a second from the replay that No name has currently but I'm sure it can be refined by someone better than me.

Chalros 12-2 181.XX remaining

Zil · « **Reply #43 on:** May 04, 2012, 05:31:27 AM »

I think it's faster (and safer) to go above for the last shot, and that was otherwise the same as IHNN's. About 2 seconds ellapse after you take the final shot in any given scene, so you'd have to take a picture at ~183 to get a better time. (It's pretty damn optimal as it is).

EDIT:

12-3, 167.80
There's really only one way to do it. (Of course, that's what I said about 12-2.)
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20779

12-5, 164.45
An obnoxious, boring scene. I just ran it a few times and took the best one, which happened to be better than my old one.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20776

12-6, ??
I remeber there was a way to make the bugged replays work, but I don't remember just what it was. I was able to stay focused for the first several shots, so I think it's pretty fast. I'm hoping someone else can get it to work.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20777

ARF · « **Reply #44 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:38:13 AM »

4-1, 102.35
For some reason I didn't expect Nitori to be within shooting range for the last photo, I'm blinded by watching that % rise.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20780

Quote from: Zil on May 04, 2012, 05:31:27 AM

12-3, 167.80
There's really only one way to do it. (Of course, that's what I said about 12-2.)

Doing this with only offensive photos would be insane!

I have no name · « **Reply #45 on:** May 04, 2012, 04:10:23 PM »

Quote from: Chalros22 on May 04, 2012, 05:17:48 AM

I feel like an ass doing this but

I'm sorry, what?

Quote from: Chalros22 on May 04, 2012, 05:17:48 AM

Chalros EX-6 147.59 remaining

147 left is a crap time you know, I posted a 173. Was this a typo? Checked the replay (more work for me, yay) and it's actually 173.59. Not that it matters because I cut out the defensive shot with a 179.12.

Quote from: Chalros22 on May 04, 2012, 05:17:48 AM

Also
SP-5 19.54 remaining

19.54 is impossible, is this actually an 18.54 or did you time it off of when you took the last shot, not the final frame shown in the replay?
Checked this one too, and it's an 18.54. I managed to improve it to 18.55 though

Also I think I'm going to settle into daily table updates, that's probably the easiest way for me to do it. (Note: not now, probably in a half hour or so, if not this afternoon)

For 12-6, seeing as it's bugged it may honestly be better to live-record attempts on that one. I would need the original .avi file in that case.

Апатия · « **Reply #46 on:** May 04, 2012, 05:17:51 PM »

1-1 ~ 97.18 s
~~1-2 ~ 76.35 s~~
1-3 ~ 75.96 s
1-4 ~ 85.55 s

ARF · « **Reply #47 on:** May 04, 2012, 06:45:02 PM »

1-2, 76.42
Catching more bullets in the second photo could yield a better time.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20791

3-4, 95.50
Keeping as far away from Yamame as you can to catch the most bullets was the general idea.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20792

7-3, 92.15
Plenty of room for improvement.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20793

I have no name · « **Reply #48 on:** May 04, 2012, 08:03:55 PM »

Quote from: Zil on May 04, 2012, 05:31:27 AM

12-6, ??
I remeber there was a way to make the bugged replays work, but I don't remember just what it was. I was able to stay focused for the first several shots, so I think it's pretty fast. I'm hoping someone else can get it to work.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20777

I have a live-recording of a 169.40 ~~(first clear, bad last shot but everything else was all charge)~~ (second clear, cool last two shots)
The mosdt pictures I've been able to get that replay to take is 3, if someone can successfully record that replay though please do so and send me the recorded .avi file.

Chuckolator · « **Reply #49 on:** May 04, 2012, 08:38:50 PM »

8-3, 136.49. There's probably a more efficient route, particularly between the 2nd and 3rd shots, but that's the best I'll do. >_>

ARF · « **Reply #50 on:** May 04, 2012, 08:44:19 PM »

Filling in some gaps, these should be pretty easy to beat.

SP-6, 179.57
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20795

SP-7, 182.64
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20796

SP-8, 175.82
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20797

Found a strategy for SP-9 that will possibly save a second or so, it's probably TAS only though.

I have no name · « **Reply #51 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:59:50 PM »

Updated table through this point.
As usual, point out anything I may have missed.

64/108 scenes down, so only 44 to go! (Mostly 8, 9, 11 and EX...)

Zil · « **Reply #52 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:09:20 PM »

I don't think my 12-6 was as good as yours, so don't worry about trying to make it work. Doing live recordings is a good idea for that one, so if I want to retry it, that's what I'll do.

ExPorygon · « **Reply #53 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:48:17 PM »

Hopefully this will help chip away at those last few stages:

8-5 127.05 http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20802
This didn't take me too long to do, so it's probably not perfect. I'll probably try this again sometime. There is a bit of hesitation in the shots, but I discovered that a little hesitation is necessary to include the newly spawning zombie fairies in the shot, reducing your charge time and increasing your survival chance considerably.

Chalros22 · « **Reply #54 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:08:53 AM »

Quote from: I have no name on May 04, 2012, 04:10:23 PM

or did you time it off of when you took the last shot, not the final frame shown in the replay?
managed to improve it to 18.55 though

Probably just typos, my mistake. I was just happy that I might have had something on the list so I rushed to post it since I'm just retarded, likely the latter because of what happened to my keyboard (see previous post).

Апатия · « **Reply #55 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:42:28 AM »

12-7 ~ 166.70 s
~~EX-2 ~ 175.85 s~~
~~EX-6 ~ 179.66 s~~

ARF · « **Reply #56 on:** May 05, 2012, 12:24:59 PM »

1-3, 76.01
Probably not quite optimized, but the time looks nice.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20824

12-1, 176.55
I tried holding the first photo to catch some bullets, but I believe it turned out to be a few frames slower. So I did it the normal way instead.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20825

EX-2, 176.91
Follow Marisa around to stay safe.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20826

edit

Attached another zip with replays, same deal as last time.
6-1, 95.59 - Keep an eye on Yuugi's movements so that the lasers don't push you around.
6-2, 95.46 - Not too speedrunning friendly, I make a compromise before the last shot for survival.
6-3, 85.25 - I'm trying to get into the charge asap after the fourth photo.
6-8, 83.33 - This one is annoying, because there's no way to snap more than one photo per cycle, so I just tried getting the last photo really early.
8-2, 89.78 - Survival, I don't know if there's any good strategy on this besides rushing up right after the last cycle ends.
11-4, 169.68 - Survival, doing it any other way would be too annoying.

I have no name · « **Reply #57 on:** May 05, 2012, 05:34:26 PM »

EX-6: 179.93
In Soviet Gensoyko, bullet dodge YOU!
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20830

Will probably update the table around 5-ish, that seems to be the best time for me to do it.

ARF · « **Reply #58 on:** May 05, 2012, 07:46:15 PM »

9-2, 89.71
Is a faster route possible?
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20833

10-7, 167.21
The laser is harmless, small clusters of bullets can force you out of charge though, which ruins the attempt.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20834

12-8, 249.79
I missed a shot... it's a starting point I guess.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20835

edit

EX-1, 171.47
No defensive shots, nothing special otherwise.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20848

EX-3, 176.97
Did this on my first try. Turns out you don't have to think about those bullets from the sides!
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20849

EX-4, 178.17
A nifty little strategy I found, can be improved further though.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20850

Ridley 64 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:35:09 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on May 02, 2012, 07:21:50 AM

1-6: 81.71 by Ridley 64

This should link to http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20748 instead.

1-1: 97.24 s
Moved to the side at the beginning so I could stream back toward the center and be in a better position to dodge the next set of bullets.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20842

1-2: 76.50 s
Looks like I captured most or all of the red bullets in the second photo.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20843

1-3: 76.17 s
Fortunately, the bubbles have small hit-boxes.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20844

1-4: 85.67 s
I used the horizontal format for the second photo. Not sure if it helped though.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20845

7-7: 82.57 s
Improvable by more double focusing.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20847

8-4: 84.25 s
Probably improvable by better positioning.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20846