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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #690 on: May 08, 2012, 10:43:14 AM »
Just a brief status update. Given that 1cc's and perfecting bosses is basically a thing of the past as I've run out of things I want to do, i can at least appreciate seeing improvement. First of all, I'm capturing Byakuren's spells much more frequently now so getting a 1-miss run of her isn't all that rare provided I don't fuck up LFO. Ehh... I could do a perfect here but I don't want to. Byakuren is fun as she is but pushing for perfection would ruin that since Good Omen can be infuriatingly precise even if it isn't all that hard to read. (most of the time)

Kogasa and Ichirin have basically hit consistent perfection. Time to focus more on Murasa and Shou. Murasa generally goes 1DNB too. Usually something involving the third non-spell. Of course, Stage 5 is still breaking my heart though. Getting the ability to consistently perfect all bosses in this game is the long term goal in this game and it's going to take longer than MoF or SA.
What difficulty is this? If Lunatic, holy shit congratulations because I'm being destroyed by pretty much everybody. Well I suppose Ichirin and Murasa are the easiest ones ('cept Nazi, she doesn't count) but the rest jesus christ. I have yet to unlock stage 6 for practice but Byakuren is still a thousand leagues above my skills. :V

e: just for lols, set your screen to black-white and play stage 5 again. Color-blind people have an advantage here!
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #691 on: May 08, 2012, 11:25:45 AM »
Kogasa and Ichirin have basically hit consistent perfection.
Please tell me you're not scoring. If you are then I will go die in shame.

If you're out of stuff to do, I suggest scoring. Or challenges.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #692 on: May 08, 2012, 11:34:50 AM »
e: just for lols, set your screen to black-white and play stage 5 again. Color-blind people have an advantage here!
How on earth do you do that?

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #693 on: May 08, 2012, 11:52:19 AM »
If you're out of stuff to do, I suggest scoring. Or challenges.

I don't know about that. UFO scoring doesn't really transform the way you play against bosses (Except for grazing) and that's really the only reason I'm playing it.

What difficulty is this? If Lunatic, holy shit congratulations because I'm being destroyed by pretty much everybody. Well I suppose Ichirin and Murasa are the easiest ones ('cept Nazi, she doesn't count) but the rest jesus christ. I have yet to unlock stage 6 for practice but Byakuren is still a thousand leagues above my skills. :V

It's Lunatic. I can only tell you to keep at it and practice. I had a really hard time to it and I was quite vocal about it too.  :V but if you just keep at it you'll eventually become better... And if you retain your ability to enjoy the rest of the series then consider yourself happy.  :V

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #694 on: May 08, 2012, 12:24:33 PM »
How on earth do you do that?
I can't help but feel that this is sarcasm.

In case you're actually serious, graphic card settings > set the color slider to 0% (not sure what it's called in English).

Eh.

@Zengeku: I have actually refrained myself from really working on Lunatic mode because it's not really fun to me. Sometimes I try it once or twice or play a bit of stage practice but I think Hard mode fits me well enough. Enough challenge while still retaining the fun factor. :p
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #695 on: May 08, 2012, 12:41:55 PM »
I can't help but feel that this is sarcasm.

In case you're actually serious, graphic card settings > set the color slider to 0% (not sure what it's called in English).

Eh.


The GLOWING BULLETS AREN'T GLOWING ANYMORE  :getdown:

And since you are talking about UFO, you can just do a great job on the earlier stages and bombspam your way through all the things that aren't memorizable in stage 5/6
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #696 on: May 08, 2012, 01:07:02 PM »
Ha, it actually makes the stage noticeably easier! What made you think I was being sarcastic?

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #697 on: May 08, 2012, 01:18:46 PM »
Ha, it actually makes the stage noticeably easier! What made you think I was being sarcastic?
To be honest, I don't know. Perhaps the "how on earth" part made me think that. Whatever, don't take it the wrong way, sometimes I assume people are being sarcastic when in actuality they're not. Silly internet does that to you. :p

On-topic, another UFO Hard 1cc with a perfected Ichirin and yet another LFS capture to add to my collection. This time I had five lives left over so I'm improving. I'm aiming for a no-death run at some point, 'tis a nice challenge for me. First death occured at Murasa's second non-spell which killed me at the dissolve phase (why of course) and then Shou got me with her annoying non-spells. And then her last spell where I thought I had still some breathing room at the bottom but I already was at the lowest point so a bullet crashed into me. Gah.

e: Another SA Hard 1cc, same end resources as the last one (eight lives) but I managed to perfect Orin!
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #698 on: May 08, 2012, 06:21:13 PM »
Decided to give Double Spoiler 90FPS a proper whack with a new score.dat and shit.

Got through about the first three scenes before deciding "Fuck this bullshit, I'm not doing this" and doing something more fun and less prone to Aya's clumsy movement bullshit.
So now I'm trying this and I currently have Stage 1 cleared, along with 2-1 and 2-2.  This is fun.
Currently through 3-4, except 2-4 and 3-2.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #699 on: May 08, 2012, 06:36:32 PM »
On-topic, another UFO Hard 1cc with a perfected Ichirin and yet another LFS capture to add to my collection. This time I had five lives left over so I'm improving.
e: Another SA Hard 1cc, same end resources as the last one (eight lives) but I managed to perfect Orin!
I have actually refrained myself from really working on Lunatic mode because it's not really fun to me. Sometimes I try it once or twice or play a bit of stage practice but I think Hard mode fits me well enough. Enough challenge while still retaining the fun factor. :p
Go play Lunatic.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #700 on: May 08, 2012, 07:21:52 PM »
I do from time to time but I have stopped exclusively working towards it because it includes more rage than fun and that is totally not cool. :( I just don't have the patience to keep it up for long. =P

One day I'll have my Lunatic clears, but I'm taking my time. It's not like they're running away or anything.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #701 on: May 08, 2012, 07:25:20 PM »
I think the reason is you jumped straight into UFO Lunatic which to be frank is not a very good choice. For most people, anyway. What about EoSD or MoF?

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #702 on: May 08, 2012, 08:18:35 PM »
I tried EoSD and from Patchy on it becomes too killer for me. MoF on the other hand would be my next possible candidate but I dunno, somehow it isn't as satisfying getting through stages without dying. I actually made it to Sanae before game overing - then I proceeded to bomb every spell of hers at my next attempt because micrododging to that extent isn't possible with my controller anymore. And let's just say that Kanako is... fucking overkill. Hardest boss I have fought on Lunatic so far.

I don't know, I don't really want to force myself to clear other games on Lunatic right now. I just got SA and TD down so I'll leave it at that for now and practice through other means.

Also damn I'm already devoting way too much time to Touhou. I gotta focus on other things going on as well so I'll take it easy from now.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #703 on: May 08, 2012, 08:50:41 PM »
Sanae before game overing - then I proceeded to bomb every spell of hers at my next attempt because micrododging to that extent isn't possible with my controller anymore. And let's just say that Kanako is... fucking overkill. Hardest boss I have fought on Lunatic so far.
Sanae with micrododging I can get if you're using a controller, but Kanako?  Hard?  Sorry, I've perfected her up to her 4th spell several times (opener is autobomb in actual runs though), captured VoWG twice and been trying to time it out since (best is 2DNB).  I've even perfected every other boss in Mountain of Faith, at your skill level it should take no more than 1 try-2 if  you don't "get" VoWG immediately.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #704 on: May 08, 2012, 09:05:24 PM »
I CAN see how it's possible to think Kanako as hard, though. The first spell and second nonspell are a waste of space but everything else is hard if you're not up to par. The second spell is hard if you're not good enough at dodging similar patterns (and easy if you are) and the third nonspell is impossible if you don't know how it's done. Then there's Yamato Torus, the rainbow spell and VoWG which are all :V.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #705 on: May 08, 2012, 09:08:36 PM »
That's a good example of me being the polar opposite of the average Touhou player. Believe it or not, Kanako is quite tough for me. And about VoWG... I have no clue how the hell I am gonna ever capture that one. I have actually tried beating her without a lot of bomb usage in practice mode but god forbid she stomps on me like if was an ant. :V

e: Alright, I had a few tries at her and actually she isn't that difficult. Her opener is a bit convoluted and her third non-spell quite hectic but apart from that she isn't that hard after all. A few clipdeaths here and there but oh well I can cope with that.

But VoWG. How on earth are you guys doing this. I literally died five times at that thing in one go. I keep getting red walls with blue walls covering absolutely every gap possible. Like I can't even react that quickly. Is there a trick to it or is it pure dodging and praying you won't get freaking walled?
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #706 on: May 08, 2012, 09:30:16 PM »
I can end TD Extra pre-Mamizou consistently with 79-80 mil now. Maybe if I stop derping for spirits on Mamizou's cards I can get a decent score :derp:

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #707 on: May 08, 2012, 09:34:14 PM »
I've just accidently perfected TD hard stage 5 with Sanae :yukkuri:
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #708 on: May 08, 2012, 09:52:36 PM »
Only three deaths at VoWG Lunatic, woo!

This spell hurts my eyes. Yikes.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #709 on: May 08, 2012, 09:58:04 PM »
I think the reason is you jumped straight into UFO Lunatic which to be frank is not a very good choice. For most people, anyway. What about EoSD or MoF?
EoSD Lunatic? Isn't that one of the hardest in the series? I only have that and UFO remaining of the main games (not counting PoDD/PoFV). (Well, and SoEW, but that game is annoying for the wrong reasons, and not that hard anyway.)

I'd probably rank the Windows games, from easiest to hardest to 1cc on Lunatic, TD, PCB, IN/MoF, SA, EoSD, UFO.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #710 on: May 08, 2012, 10:06:46 PM »
But VoWG. How on earth are you guys doing this. I literally died five times at that thing in one go. I keep getting red walls with blue walls covering absolutely every gap possible. Like I can't even react that quickly. Is there a trick to it or is it pure dodging and praying you won't get freaking walled?

It's a pretty tough spellcard but as with anything, it's a matter of practice. Give it a go every a few times every other day and you'll probably start to see recurring patterns in the attack and you'll start picking up experience about what kind of dodges are the best for each situation. The amount of things that can happen are quite numerous so don't expect to capture it right away. In fact, it took me around 25 attempts before I captured it first time. Now I usually pacify it with 1 death (yeah, it always kills me once which is annoying) so what I'm trying to say is that you just need to be patient and you'll learn how to approach it eventually.

It's a seriously fun spell when you can dodge it so don't give up. Don't give up on UFO either, just try to make a few stabs at it whenever you feel like you've got the mental resources to stomach some frustration.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #711 on: May 08, 2012, 10:23:27 PM »
That's what I'm gonna do.

In other words, Futo's final spell is so much fun: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=20946

Is it illegal to ask for score.dat's too? I would need a file for TH13 with all Overdrives unlocked as I really don't feel like playing through Easy and Normal mode. If somebody's kind enough, yes? :>

I couldn't find anything about it in the rules so forgive me if it's frowned upon.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #712 on: May 08, 2012, 10:37:39 PM »
Is it illegal to ask for score.dat's too?
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #713 on: May 08, 2012, 11:25:14 PM »
Thanks a lot. Too bad that just now... my fucking controller ceases to work.

Now I can go get it exchanged next week. *sigh*

e: Wait, I threw the fucking receipt away. WHY DID I THROW IT AWAY.

Alright, that's it. I'm not going to buy any more PC accessory to play these games. I'm done.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #714 on: May 08, 2012, 11:51:35 PM »
Thanks a lot. Too bad that just now... my fucking controller ceases to work.

Now I can go get it exchanged next week. *sigh*

e: Wait, I threw the fucking receipt away. WHY DID I THROW IT AWAY.

Alright, that's it. I'm not going to buy any more PC accessory to play these games. I'm done.

Just use a keyboard. They're reliable. Sure, they lock up...

...All the time...
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #715 on: May 08, 2012, 11:56:29 PM »
Just use a keyboard. They're reliable. Sure, they lock up...

...All the time...
If they're crappy... (mine never has  :D)
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #716 on: May 09, 2012, 01:02:59 AM »
For some odd reason I thought Spleen Eater was a Satori spell and ended up going to the wrong stage.  Capped DBDB  :derp:.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #717 on: May 09, 2012, 02:47:28 AM »
Stage 5 90 FPS Double Spoiler fully cleared.
5-5 was annoying, 5-8 I almost beat first try but then took 100 photos to clear.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #718 on: May 09, 2012, 02:54:58 AM »
SA Stage 3 perfected! Fun boss, a couple close calls but I'll take it.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments 15 - Virtue of Win God Edition
« Reply #719 on: May 09, 2012, 04:22:41 AM »
Perfected all 6 stages of Ten Desires on Hard except stage 5 (which I nearly perfected with one death on Futo's last card that I normally capture, and didn't bother retrying). It was easier than I expected. So I'm now attempting a no-bombs-no-trance Hard 1cc, though the low number of lives (even lower than usual without manual trances) is getting annoying.

Also captured Flandre's last three cards for the first time, all in a row. Though I'd only really consider the QED capture an accomplishment, since I nearly captured the other two the first time I cleared the stage 10 months ago, and just never bothered replaying the stage until now.
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