Author Topic: MIDNIGHT CREW MAFIA - OVER - SCUM WIN (Read 43682 times)

ICE · « **Reply #510 on:** March 04, 2012, 07:09:56 PM »

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 05:59:54 AM

Whyyyyy does no one want to lynch Anthy?

What has he done that's remotely town?

I'd like each person not voting anthy to give three reasons that Anthy is town in their next post. Zero should involve WIFOM (i.e. 'scum would make more of an effort to look like a townie')

Hi folks.

Anthy

Reasons.

Now.

I know 2 of you are his scumbuddies, but suck it up and deal.

Hanged Hourai · « **Reply #511 on:** March 04, 2012, 07:13:53 PM »

VOTECOUNT:

huh what (0) -
Dormio (0) -
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, Shadoweh
ShadyK (0) -
I have no name (2) - Affinity, Serela
Shadoweh (0) -
Affinity (1) - I have no name
Anthy (1) - ICE
ICE (0) -

Not voting: Anthy, ShadyK

Serela is at L2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends in ~27 hours.

I have no name · « **Reply #512 on:** March 04, 2012, 07:17:15 PM »

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 07:09:56 PM

Hi folks.

Anthy

Reasons.

Now.

I know 2 of you are his scumbuddies, but suck it up and deal.

I have 1 reason.
Anthy is my 3rd pick, but he's least threatening scum IMO.

ICE · « **Reply #513 on:** March 04, 2012, 07:45:05 PM »

Sooooo, nameless is a buddy.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #514 on:** March 04, 2012, 07:46:00 PM »

>_<

There is no such thing as 'least threatening scum'. Do you have a reason that is related to you thinking he might be town?

ICE · « **Reply #515 on:** March 04, 2012, 07:55:59 PM »

##unvote
##vote: Nameless

Because hysterical

Shadoweh · « **Reply #516 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:11:33 PM »

Dormio, actually, reviewing things, I have a serious question for you.
You only unvoted I have no name in order to make room on his wagon for other people.
Now that there was room again, why didn't you go back? You voiced a dislike of him again, I'm asking why you, Dormio, not influenced by the thoughts of others, made this choice?

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #517 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:28:10 PM »

@Shadoweh: Like I said, the AtE hurt me. His reaction to being put to L-1 made me question my scumread on him. And then his reaction to being unvoted made me un-question the scumread on him. As for why I'm still voting for Serela, because I believe that he's more likely to flip scum.

As for why Anthy is town: No clue. I haven't really read him at all. I'll get around to doing that when I have the time.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #518 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:29:57 PM »

In other words, I am adopting Bard's view of "You're all scum aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa".

Shadoweh · « **Reply #519 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:34:49 PM »

Oh come on Dormio. That doesn't answer me at all. You don't have a reason to prioritize Serela over him right now other then Serela is where you got distracted to, do you?

ICE · « **Reply #520 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:36:01 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 12:57:13 AM

Simple: assuming 2 scum, those 2 were my top pick for scum team. Since no one would vote ICE, I voted huh what to try to chip away at the scum.
If there are 3 Serela is probably 3rd right now, if ICE is town then idk who else.

Quote from: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 07:17:15 PM

I have 1 reason.
Anthy is my 3rd pick, but he's least threatening scum IMO.

What changed inbetween those two posts?

I mean besides you forgetting your own scumreads.

ICE · « **Reply #521 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:39:21 PM »

Also I'm underimpressed by the Serela wagon.

Anyone want to summarize the points in a few key bullets?

I mean besides lurking and her posting like a sugar-high ditz, there's no real scumminess there.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #522 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:40:48 PM »

What's up with the Serela love, Swadomeh?
Also, what's up with the whole summing up my thoughts (inaccurately) on Serela as a single point in your #505?

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Whatever, uni.

ICE · « **Reply #523 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:47:00 PM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on March 04, 2012, 08:40:48 PM

What's up with the Serela love, Swadomeh?
Also, what's up with the whole summing up my thoughts (inaccurately) on Serela as a single point in your #505?

Warning - choo choo i'm a train
Whatever, uni.

Maybe we're trying to figure the game out, Ran Ran

-_-

Shadoweh · « **Reply #524 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:56:49 PM »

It actually has nothing to do with Serela. I'm asking you what your motives are. I'm also asking you to objectively compare how you feel about the two people you suspect and make an informed decision between them instead of staying where you are when it's easier.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #525 on:** March 04, 2012, 09:41:30 PM »

Quote from: Affinity on March 04, 2012, 07:17:46 AM

I'm not comfortable with the way huhwhat seems to be dissing the IHNM wagon here from a distance, in that he seems to be clearing IHNM based on his own opinions of how a newbtown is like, without directly addressing the valid points which were levied at him or questioning the people who made them other than Serela. What exactly about the points against IHNM do you find disagreeable, huhwhat?

At the time I made that post, I hadn't really been finding any of the points against Nameless to stand out. He posted justifications when switching to ICE on D1 (though it was before the actual vote), and I was under the impression the PX vote was for the sake of majority, given the bomb theories. The "heaping weight on wagons" accusation didn't seem true to me.

I will give you that his more recent priorities have seemed odd, since his OMGUS on you after he stated he took your vote way too personally and shouldn't have suspected you in his #475, but at the same time, I think the switch rings more of legitimate scumhunting than waffly flailing. If Nameless really was using his suspicion lists as an excuse to justify opportunistically switching his vote to whereever it would have the most weight, then he could have kept it down on Serela and switched to another wagon if a new counterwagon to him showed up, so I still disagree that he's only using his vote to help wagons accumulate support. The same could be said of his ED2 vote on me, since I showed little promise of becoming an viable wagon at that point, with the only vote on me being pressure from Shadoweh.

Overall, I think it looks more like Nameless is using his vote as a tool to press his myriad suspects than waffling around and heaping weight on growing wagons, so I don't buy into the case on him.

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 08:39:21 PM

Also I'm underimpressed by the Serela wagon.

Anyone want to summarize the points in a few key bullets?

I mean besides lurking and her posting like a sugar-high ditz, there's no real scumminess there.

- Cheerleading up and coming cases (PX and Rawr wagons) on D1 without ever actually pushing for anything, including the cases he seemed to support
- Voting Nameless for having no strong explained stances while failing to have any strong explained stances immediately afterwards - if Nameless hadn't made the post with no strong stances, Serela would be guilty of exactly what he was attacking Nameless for
- Lurking through the meat of D1 with no substantial contribution to make up for it (this is legitimately scummy and saying "besides lurking" is basically dismissing something scummy just because)

The masons seem crazy disjointed at the moment. I'm curious what Shadoweh thinks about her buddy's pressure on Anthy, and why she hasn't tried to convince him of the Serela case if Serela is who she's voting. Looks lazy. :<

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #526 on:** March 04, 2012, 09:43:52 PM »

Also, GreyICE acting like everybody not voting Anthy thinks Anthy is town is ~~stupid~~ silly. People can't have their vote in two places. Additionally, I'm not going to spend the entire day pushing for an Anthy lynch if I think Serela looks a lot worse.

I have no name · « **Reply #527 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:00:35 PM »

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 07:45:05 PM

Sooooo, nameless is a buddy.

?

Quote from: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 07:46:00 PM

>_<

There is no such thing as 'least threatening scum'. Do you have a reason that is related to you thinking he might be town?

I meant by that, 'scum least likely to cause trouble'.

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 08:36:01 PM

What changed inbetween those two posts?

I mean besides you forgetting your own scumreads.

I re-read the thread.
Are you actually reading all of my posts?

ICE · « **Reply #528 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:02:46 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 10:00:35 PM

?I meant by that, 'scum least likely to cause trouble'.I re-read the thread.
Are you actually reading all of my posts?

Yup.

They're scummy and amazingly bad.

Your 'reread' an old mafia game and 'decided' that Serela looked like she was playing like she did in that game so she needed to be lynched.

That's meta bullshit scumbag arguments, and Serela is now virtually guaranteed to be town.

I have no name · « **Reply #529 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:05:18 PM »

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:02:46 PM

Yup.

They're scummy and amazingly bad.

Your 'reread' an old mafia game and 'decided' that Serela looked like she was playing like she did in that game so she needed to be lynched.

That's meta bullshit scumbag arguments, and Serela is now virtually guaranteed to be town.

Flawed Logic: I'm not scum

I perused several older ones to try to get a better feel for how this went and noted playstyle similarities.
The re-read was this thread up to that point.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #530 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:05:49 PM »

Quote

The masons seem crazy disjointed at the moment. I'm curious what Shadoweh thinks about her buddy's pressure on Anthy, and why she hasn't tried to convince him of the Serela case if Serela is who she's voting. Looks lazy. :<

You mad? Convince me I should do something about it.

ICE · « **Reply #531 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:05:59 PM »

Quote from: I have no name on March 04, 2012, 10:05:18 PM

Flawed Logic: I'm not scum

I perused several older ones to try to get a better feel for how this went and noted playstyle similarities.
The re-read was this thread up to that point.

Would you say most experienced posters tend to post similarly in most games they play in, regardless of alignment?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #532 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:12:33 PM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on March 04, 2012, 10:05:49 PM

You mad? Convince me I should do something about it.

because if you don't push your opinions you're not a threat to scum, and that's why scum doesn't NK you vOv

Given this and your position on the Rawr wagon followed by your D2 opener, I'm getting major "I don't care who gets lynched" vibes from you, which is fucked up since you should be a confirmed town mason. If you're confirmed town then you should be doing things with it instead of just watching as the rest of the game squabbles over the two competing wagons.

ICE · « **Reply #533 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:14:03 PM »

PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - ICE, Shadoweh, Dan, Serela
-----
ICE (5) - Anthy, PX, i have no name, Affinity, dr rawr
-----
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (4) - Shadoweh,Dan, Serela, Dormio
-----
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (6) - Shadoweh, Dan, Serela, Dormio, dr rawr, i have no name
----
PX (Great and Powerful Trixie) (7) - Dormio, i have no name, Affinity, huh what, Shadoweh,ICE, dr rawr
----
Serela (3) - huhwhat, Dormio, ShadyK
----
I have no name (4) - Dormio, Affinity, Serela, ShadyK
----

hmmmm

Vote: ShadyK

The extreme difference inbetween day 1 and day 2 says someone was taking an observational position on day 1, and has moved into a straight opportunistic position on day 2.

Lessee what happens when I do this ^_^

ICE · « **Reply #534 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:15:49 PM »

People it is a stone bitch to move wagons onto:

Anthy
Affinity
Shadek
huhwhat

Weird shit: No one seems to think these people are town.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #535 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:18:09 PM »

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:14:03 PM

The extreme difference inbetween day 1 and day 2 says someone was taking an observational position on day 1, and has moved into a straight opportunistic position on day 2.

Have you ISO'd Serela lately?

ICE · « **Reply #536 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:19:30 PM »

Quote from: holy what on March 04, 2012, 10:18:09 PM

Have you ISO'd Serela lately?

You guys don't have that function.

Anyway, I don't like Serela for scum, and if push comes to shove I'll make a town case for her... something I loath doing.

I have no name · « **Reply #537 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:20:56 PM »

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:05:59 PM

Would you say most experienced posters tend to post similarly in most games they play in, regardless of alignment?

In general yes.
Also I wasn't voting based on things from other games, it was merely an observation I made.

Anyway, if you hate my meta-playing because I wasn't in those games (which are available to anyone), why don't you hate other people using for how players have acted in previous games as partial reasoning for votes?

Also now there's ~24 hours left in the day.

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on March 04, 2012, 08:28:10 PM

His reaction to being put to L-1 made me question my scumread on him. This is the right choice
And then his reaction to being unvoted made me un-question the scumread on him. What reaction?

I have no name · « **Reply #538 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:21:59 PM »

Quote from: holy what on March 04, 2012, 10:18:09 PM

Have you ISO'd Serela lately?

What does ISO stand for?

Also nice fakevote on ShadyK ICE >.>

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #539 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:24:57 PM »

Quote from: ICE on March 04, 2012, 10:19:30 PM

You guys don't have that function.

Anyway, I don't like Serela for scum, and if push comes to shove I'll make a town case for her... something I loath doing.

Does your browser not have a CTRL+F function? Use something from his profile (like subtitle, identity) if his name alone gets a bunch of irrelevant results.

Go ahead and make that town case. Serela is scum and I want to know why people are giving him a pass for blatant lurkscum behavior. You of all people should be immune to "but serela is ALWAYS terrible.........." since you haven't played here before.

Nameless cut: ISO is when you read a player's posts in isolation.