Author Topic: Rumia = Flandre?!  (Read 28297 times)

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2012, 11:44:38 PM »
Also,

ALSO!

They wear dresses.
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2012, 12:09:54 AM »
Actually they wear tops and skirts. Not dresses.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2012, 12:55:12 AM »
I want to know who Gensokyo's shoe maker is. Whoever it is, they must make a fortune - half the cast seems to buy from them alone.
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2012, 01:20:34 AM »
Actually they wear tops and skirts. Not dresses.

It doesn't help that ZUN's style tends to make them look like the latter no matter what they actually wear.

I want to know who Gensokyo's shoe maker is. Whoever it is, they must make a fortune - half the cast seems to buy from them alone.

They must have opened up shop fairly recently since no one apparently wore shoes prior to IN
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2012, 04:47:40 AM »
It's probably Alice. Making shoes seems right up her alley, like making dolls, dresses and other things.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2012, 08:01:42 AM »
Ohrite

I forget that IaMP exists quote often to be perfectly honest.
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2012, 06:11:30 PM »
Sure looks like they're wearing shoes on the cover of LLS and MS. And Flandre's silhouette on the cover of EoSD looks like there's footwear involved.

Where does this "no shoes before IaMP"  idea come from?

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2012, 06:28:48 PM »
Sure looks like they're wearing shoes on the cover of LLS and MS. And Flandre's silhouette on the cover of EoSD looks like there's footwear involved.

Where does this "no shoes before IaMP"  idea come from?

Tiny sprites, and the fact that cutins dont show feet.
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2012, 08:00:59 PM »
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2012, 08:15:13 PM »
Are you trying to prove my point or are you suggesting they're wearing plastic bags?

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2012, 08:35:42 PM »
I guess they're just socks or slippers. If they are shoes then they were drawn with monumental laziness.

Why aren't Yuyuko, Youmu, and Yukari up there, or are their feet not visible?

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2012, 08:42:57 PM »
I guess they're just socks or slippers. If they are shoes then they were drawn with monumental laziness.

ZUN's legs are a pair of parallel lines. I just assumed he was drawing lazy shoes. Unless it wasn't improving art skill that led to better shoes, but rather people in Gensokyo just inexplicably decided to go from slippers to shoes.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2012, 09:15:59 PM »
For the record, Sakuya, Youmu, and Yuyuko do wear shoes.

You be the judge on Yukari, they look like socks over socks to me, but they're more shoe like than the others I guess.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2012, 11:07:47 PM »
Time to paint-shop shoes onto iK's pictures so we can re-de-re-de-derail this thread.



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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2012, 11:38:55 PM »
they're wearing plastic bags

Heh, It does look like they are.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2012, 01:01:41 AM »
>Citing examples of characters from the outside world.

Youmu and Yuyuko are the only blatant exceptions to the rule, really. Everyone else that has shoes shown comes from outside Gensokyo.

TH03 cover is hard to really tell being so small and whatnot.
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2012, 06:03:44 AM »
I forget, what's the official line on Sakuya? Is it explicitly mentioned she comes from outside Gensokyo?

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2012, 06:31:25 AM »
It's pretty much accepted that the entire SDM comes from the outside world. At least to my [Patchouli] knowledge.
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2012, 09:00:28 AM »
In reply to the original post, how would Flandre have gotten those darkness manipulation powers if she was truly Rumia?
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2012, 12:10:03 PM »
I think the SDM may have come from Europe, because virtually all of them (minus Sakuya, Meiling and... I guess Koakuma, too. if you want to be a perfectionist) have European names.

But let's not go off-topic.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #81 on: March 05, 2012, 12:32:41 PM »
I want to know who Gensokyo's shoe maker is. Whoever it is, they must make a fortune - half the cast seems to buy from them alone.

A ton of the cast seems to really like combat boots, for example, Eirin and Alice.
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« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2012, 03:52:23 PM »
Koakuma could have easily been from inside Gensokyo.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2012, 04:47:52 PM »
Kaokuma is also not really a character. For all we know there are several little devils working in the library, keeping books in order and whatnot.

They could have easily come into the mansion after it moved to Gensokyo.
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« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2012, 06:15:20 PM »
Sakuya isn't Sakuya's real name, right? Remilia just named her that or something.

And yeah, Koakuma has no real name. Fans just called her that. Same with Daiyousei.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2012, 01:31:25 AM »
Kaokuma is also not really a character. For all we know there are several little devils working in the library, keeping books in order and whatnot.

They could have easily come into the mansion after it moved to Gensokyo.

but isn't Koakuma a Summon as teories says?, or is it all fanon?



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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2012, 08:29:07 AM »
Actually, where does it say that Sakuya is not her actual name?
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2012, 03:35:01 PM »
Actually, where does it say that Sakuya is not her actual name?

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It's still unknown whether the vampires sought out the services of her extraordinary powers, or whether she herself asked for the position of head maid at the Scarlet Devil Mansion.

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In addition, it is said that the name she bears now was given to her by the vampires, and is not her true name.

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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #88 on: March 06, 2012, 03:51:03 PM »
In a somewhat serious attempt to get this back on topic: Black socks are uncommon and red socks may even be downright rare. Why is this relevant?

On an off chance, I had paid attention to the character's feet before and while it's hard to tell from the in game imagery since the feet are, as previously mentioned, rather quite small. Still to me it kinda looks like Rumia's probably wearing shoes.  Red high heels to be specific, since her feet are kinda pointy.

If she is, where did those shoes come from? Obviously, like everything else in the world, they must have been made in China. The only other character visibly wearing shoes on that same sprite sheet looks to be like Hong Meiling, the scarlet devil mansion gate guard. Perhaps it's possible on her way out, Meiling gives Flandre a pair of her shoes out of concern that the decorative silk socks will become dirty and worn out, if left unprotected and exposed to the elements of the great outdoors. Naturally, this being a Scarlet sister, Meling lent out her very best pair. (Few other people wear shoes at this point because coming from the outside world, they are quite rare and valuable but since socks often seem to be lost in between the gaps quite often, it's possible Yukari has more socks than she knows what to do with and gives them away freely...)

Either that or Rumia's not wearing shoes per se but Ruby Slippers because she's Dorothy from Kansas/Oz. It wouldd explain why she got in a fight with the local witch; gotta finish off the last of the wicked witches, as designated by the black pointy hat. I mean hey, why not? It's not that outlandish a possibility, considering that we have Alice from Wonderland. The darkness surrounding her could even be the interdimensional tornado responsible for landing here.
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Re: Rumia = Flandre?!
« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2012, 04:04:21 PM »
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