Author Topic: IMP MAFIA - TOWN VICTORY (Read 34803 times)

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #780 on:** February 18, 2012, 02:36:35 AM »

Quote from: Shadoweh on February 18, 2012, 02:26:44 AM

He doesn't mention PX until his I AM THE VIG NOT YOU post, after Huh what has left.

I like how you forget the part where I stated repeatedly on D1 that I disliked how PX went about his OMGUS vote on me.
But what exactly was I meant to say about him, he refused to respond to me.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #781 on:** February 18, 2012, 02:40:12 AM »

Rereading has also reminded me that
A) Dorian was also on PX immediately and helped ramp him out of control, making both the last NK's vengeance for PX
B) Rawr couldn't remember whether he thought Serela was a suspect or clearly telling the truth and treated him like he wasn't lying, Bard pointed out this inconsistency multiple times.

So I'm having less doubts about Serela now. If only he would actually post in Mafia.

You stated it repeatedly but you forgot about it and didn't list him in your four town suspects and didn't mention him for the entire Day 2 until the other vig brought it up first?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #782 on:** February 18, 2012, 02:41:10 AM »

I'm pretty sure Serela is town too, but still think it would be overall beneficial if he seppuku'd to increase the odds of town winning.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #783 on:** February 18, 2012, 02:43:01 AM »

I also wish to cause his death to fulfill Homestuck canon. I'm already halfway there!

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #784 on:** February 18, 2012, 02:45:04 AM »

B-but Nepeta is the best troll ;_;

To be fair, though, who would you trust more to be the deciding vote in 3p LYLO, me or Serela?

Spoiler:

Shadoweh · « **Reply #785 on:** February 18, 2012, 02:55:48 AM »

Fakeclaims are only shitty when they don't work. ^.~
You're 75% less likely to self-vote in LYLO. Li Shang shall forever be a Sereley blemish. >:<

Serela · « **Reply #786 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:05:36 AM »

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I'm going to assume that by "he", you're referring to Serela.
If he can't, he's scum. If he can, he's town.
Either you or Serela are scum, and I'm more convinced in your scumminess than Serela's, so I guess my answer would be yes.

Well then Dormio I hope you don't mind if I go ##Vote Dormio!

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Where is Serela? I mean he's on the IRC and everything.

I never log off :V

Hey guys, I am NEPETA LEIJON, Rogue of Heart.

But guess what? I'm not going to die, because my trueclaim became useless as soon as BT (Rose Lalonde) died. I sort of wish I -would- due to the possibility of "OH MAN SERELA CAN'T SUICIDE, SCUM", but there's nothing I can do about that!

I have no idea why people are suggesting the Dorian kill is less good then other possibilities. THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND. Why the hell are you suggesting Shadoweh is a better NK then Dorian? Dorian got labeled as town by like everyone, while Shadoweh was still lynchable even if a tentative town read.

Huhwhat, you are awesome for lying about still having your doc powers. Too bad scum managed to indirectly kill Bard anyway! :V

I imagine scum didn't NK obvtown me possibly because they really wanted to hit one of the lovers so there would not be two remaining lynches, and then HW/Bard had possibility of being doc'd, Dormio is lynchbait, and Shadoweh isn't impossible to lynch (Plus I've been open to the possibility of lynching Shadoweh today before today actually happened, which would be relevant if Dormio is scum). Dorian was arguably the best nk target for any scum other then Dorian him/herself.

Anyway. I wouldn't be super surprised if Shadoweh is scum. But I'd place my bets on it being Dormio instead.

Erfle... but... all the scum had useless fake trueclaims (PX's was useless and Tavros didn't even flip as having one). Shadoweh's trueclaim arguably -was- useless, but since it hit a scum, we'll never know. But... oh wait, and then... and there was that stuff... and then I've been reading her as town despite some quirky stuff... and then with the ~*~logic~*~ and the stuff and the things...

Yeah I'm p.confident just voting Dormio.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #787 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:12:03 AM »

:/

Regardless of the trueclaim, I have a hard time buying you as scum. Given how hard PX tried to interact with Rawr, I don't think it's in line for his scum behavior this game to ignore you completely - not to mention Rawr's weird attacks on you which he made sure to prioritize over voting PX because

.

So let's hear some words and votes from Shadoweh and Dormio. Huge cases aren't necessary, just the strongest points you think you have on your target. I'm unlikely to listen to PBPA at this point because I hate it and it's never convincing.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #788 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:15:27 AM »

>.< This is actually happening isn't it.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #789 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:16:49 AM »

Do you think Serela is scum, Shadoweh?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #790 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:20:39 AM »

He just called Dormio lynchbait. -.- It would be pretty embarrassing to lose to Serela. I am nowhere near drunk enough for this.

Serela, why didn't you tell us you couldn't suicide any longer when Rose died?

Serela · « **Reply #791 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:23:12 AM »

I mean, with Shadoweh I figured it'd be pretty easy!

"Is Huhwhat scum?" Duh.
"Is Serela scum?" Come oooon. My role is also confirmed to be true now! I suppose I could see why a scum lover-ifier would make sense if they didn't know who they made lovers, as it opens up a chance for a second town kill, but... then there's all the non-role related reasons why.

I would have mentioned the suicide thing (probably at least), but Chaore didn't tell me. It probably didn't occur to him until LyLo happened that it was a thing. In fact, he originally pm'd me that my suicide was disabled due to LyLo, and then sent another pm retconning that decision with "No it's because BT died and that's officially why."

Serela · « **Reply #792 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:23:33 AM »

Also Dormio -is- lynchbait, I mean seriously :V

Serela · « **Reply #793 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:25:04 AM »

The fact that Shadoweh isn't just going for it helps support my decision that Dormio is the scum and not her. It would be completely and entirely justified for her to just vote Dormio. I mean, the other two choices are me and HW, it'd be perfectly reasonable!

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #794 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:26:34 AM »

That's how Serela gets when he thinks he's about to win as town. He's basically been a less sharp Koishi all game.

It'd be more embarassing to lose to Dormio just because you didn't want to risk being embarassed by losing to Serela. I don't think Serela not claiming his inability to suicide isn't as bad as Dormio not claiming Miller, since one of these things does not fuck up the abilities of other roles and strongly implicate you as scum.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #795 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:28:21 AM »

Also, Chaore flaking about Serela's suicide being disabled is pretty reasonable to believe, since he flaked and didn't tell me my seppukku removed my doc abilities until after I already received my role PM.

Serela · « **Reply #796 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:29:28 AM »

And about modkilling headcrabs!

Serela · « **Reply #797 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:29:43 AM »

CHAORE WE STILL LOVE YOU.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #798 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:38:34 AM »

Okay, so on the one hand you have a vig who claimed miller after he thought he was going to be copped
On the other you have someone who is effectively taking back their claim to be able to die at the last possible second.

Serela, your claim is confirmed to be true because someone who just happened to be linked to the cop died right after you knowingly quickhammered bulletproof town. Your role working doesn't make you town.

And now you're saying the mod lied to you in your role pm. You can't see it but my eye is twitching. Why can't thinks just be simple? ;_;

Okay, thinking about it logically. Serela wouldn't have been called on to die if he hadn't shot the lovers in the first place. But askghf So far town has had alot of power roles. I guess Serela's role can be seen as more a negative then a positive. It seems like that's the theme for the game, most of the town roles involve killing yourself. Or getting back NOTHING.

Okay. I'm ready. I'm pumped for this. I'm gonna do it. I can vote for Dormio who I still feel is town in the back of my head for being like a brain eating Munak zombie aaaaaaa I don't want to do it huh what tell me how dormio is being different from his apathy self?

Serela · « **Reply #799 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:43:08 AM »

Wha? I never said Chaore lied to me in my role pm. My role pm was completely and entirely true.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #800 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:43:58 AM »

Okay I feel better. Apparently Serela is incapable of telling us how his partners are scum.

##Vote: Dormio

Serela · « **Reply #801 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:45:30 AM »

To be specific as possible, using my trueclaim tells Rose Lalonde who the lovers are, and then I die because no one likes a snitch.

So Chaore later telling me I won't die from claiming, since Rose Lalonde is dead, isn't surprising. I don't even know who the lovers are (until they died, but duh)

Mmkay. Votes on Dormio make me smile! Unless he's town, then I'll cry. But I really doubt that.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #802 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:46:21 AM »

I think I've called Serela confirmation biased a million times, but one quick look at his ISO says he has no idea how he feels about pretty much anyone. Since I believe Serela to be a moral and upright citizen, I'm pretty sure he would have told me how scummy Rawr was if he really believed it.

What were the objects anyways?

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #803 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:47:14 AM »

Dormio isn't apathetic right now, he's scum who needs to win by attacking you and has been doing such. Note that he pretty cleanly set up an Affinity lynch yesterday followed by a Shadoweh lynch today with his Vote Affinity, FoS Shadoweh.

Dormio wasn't acting apathetic when he made the vig claim either. When he made the vig claim, he was pro-actively trying to get town an extra flip by shooting somebody, IF you believe he was town. He should have been in full townie motivation force. His "eh, I didn't care about miller, sue me" claim makes no sense for town!Dormio based on his approach to the game at the time. He's just abusing his apathy meta to get away with a poorly explained vote.

Also, finally, just because nobody has brought this up yet:
- On ED1, Dormio jumps on PX and gets OMGUS'd for it.
- Dormio and PX continue to go at each other for a little while, but Dormio eventually takes the first opportunity possible to switch to Dan.
- PX later sheeps Dormio, who he thought was scum by citing Dormio's Dan case when switching to the Dan wagon.
- Despite this, none of them get into further argument over how odd and inconsistent this would be for townie PX.

I noticed this connection while re-reading. I think it's pretty damning.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #804 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:50:08 AM »

Claim, not vote.

Waiting on that Serela object list.

Serela · « **Reply #805 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:50:36 AM »

That's not true ;_; Then again I barely remember what I've said so I'm not the best expert on that matter.

I remember roleplays so much better then mafia. So, so, so much better.

I shipped the library and a guy fawkes mask. The rest of the objects were a Case of Nuts, a Fancy Santa, a can of Barbasol, a Shark, a Stopsign, a gun, and a comicbook.

Saying this more because I'll be putting it up in postgame then for any relevance to the game at hand, p.much. I figure it's harmless now that the lovers are already dead.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #806 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:51:54 AM »

Right then.

The council has agreed on a decision.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #807 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:53:14 AM »

Well, we already knew PX was scum.
The sheeping a townie would make as much sense except for that part where he goes back to Dormio.

I don't even know how to react to those.

I CAN'T LOOK :ohdear:

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #808 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:53:30 AM »

##Vote: Dormio

Serela · « **Reply #809 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:54:38 AM »

i maintain that fun with flavor is the best part of mafia