Author Topic: IMP MAFIA - TOWN VICTORY (Read 34817 times)

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #690 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:04:43 AM »

aaaaaaaaa

Bard, if Shadoweh and PX were buddies, then why would PX go out of his way to make Shadoweh look bad and lynchable instead of taking the "I should be confirmed town to you" and running with it, at a time where nobody really wanted Shadoweh lynched? Shadoweh wasn't getting dying before he did and they were tied to eachother no matter what he did because of the D1 trueclaim.

If he was trying to distance from both buddies and his buddy was Shadoweh he wouldn't have taken the Dormio thing and ran with it later on. His ENTIRE DAY 2 was spent distancing himself from Rawr and Dormio, because they were his fellow scum.

Chances are Shadoweh's roleclaim DID tell PX she was town, he set up the breadcrumb, then decided not to use it when he wanted to make sure Shadoweh was still mislynchable.

Fuck it. THERE IS NO WAY SHADOWEH IS SCUM! If you're still paranoid about it then you can scan her tonight if there ends up being a N3, which there won't be if we lynch Dormio.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #691 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:06:18 AM »

Bard how could I be fake-breadcrumbing becoming lovers from Serela's power before he claimed it.
I said ED1, way way ED1 that PX was obviously doing something in relation to my power, and that I knew he was Karkat because of it. (At least that he was faking it.)

I'd rather stay and talk about today. If Dormio isn't scum I forsee having this argument again tomorrow with Bard screaming at me some more. I'd rather not be the last lynch. Again.

Cut by huh what <3

Bardiche · « **Reply #692 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:08:42 AM »

Because you pushed Rawr's lynch most heavily based on "his flip will be informative", too, despite it... not actually being informative? No, you did not make a real case on Rawr, and you did not push heavily by explaining why Rawr over PX, other than "PX is Town".

Shadoweh, "I would die for PX" -> lovers die when they are killed.

I'd rather lynch Shadoweh over Dormio, but I guess we can have this entire circus tomorrow, too. Still keeping my vote there, though: not putting D to L-1 without everyone weighing in on the latest events.

Serela · « **Reply #693 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:09:47 AM »

We lynch Dormio. If game doesn't end, Bard cops Shadoweh. doc!HW does whatever he's going to do whether he's bluffing or whatever and for the love of god we hope Bard isn't dead come the next day.

If Shadoweh is copped as town we know someone is a godfather or Bard is a liar (unlikely if Dorm is confirmed miller in addition to already being a town read), I will cry, and we'll have to figure it out from there. It will probably include lovers claiming, assuming they aren't scum, and lynching (hopefully a solitary person) who is left.

Iunno if Affinity and Dorian's claims will change this at all. Still waiting for Affinity to claim because that needs to happen TODAY, not tomorrow.

Shadoweh I count as voting Dormio in my mind for sake of Not Me Over Me. Over possibility of scum!Bard if anyone could think that, review why you would think Bard is scum and if you'd still believe that after Dormio flipped miller, and if you still think he's scum just sheep me instead. I totally don't have a reputation of screwing over my alignment in every single game where I don't die early, nosiree, THAT ENDED IN K4U'S VANILLA MAFIA.

But yeah let's not lynch Dorm until Affinity claims.

Serela · « **Reply #694 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:10:35 AM »

Quote from: Serela on February 17, 2012, 02:09:47 AM

It will probably include lovers claiming, assuming they aren't scum, and lynching (hopefully a solitary person) who is left.

see reasoning on this in one of my earlier posts where I base it off how my role works

Shadoweh · « **Reply #695 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:14:12 AM »

PX's reasons for saying Dormio was scum made alot of sense to me. He said it after he was pretty much dead, so it's possible he was giving out real reasons knowing no one would listen to him later.

Bard why was I trying to lynch my scum buddy when my scum buddy was being lynched. Why was I urging the vig not to shoot the townie when he was choosing between town and scum. Why was I encouraging town discussion. WHY WAS I BUSSING THE ROLEBLOCKER INSTEAD OF THE GOON. What do you think I am, Dormio?!

Affinity · « **Reply #696 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:14:50 AM »

I claim EQUIUS ZAHAK, Heir of Void. I am Macho and cannot be protected by 'the doctor' (as Chaore says so) at any point in the game. However, I can trueclaim once in the game to make myself bulletproof for the following two nights, as so, though it's a bit redundant.

Serela, why do you want a quicklynch today and keep harping on this?

I'm not... really convinced by Bard's Shadoweh case past her general obstrusiveness and arbitrary town/scum reads, which is something but not as damning as he is making it out to be; she did go after rawr over me after all, and had little reason to if she were scum. The case on Dormio I can get behind on first glance, but I'm inclined to believe that shooting Dan was a reasonable action yesterday. Will reread in awhile.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #697 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:15:26 AM »

Also,

I'm going to point out that Dormio never planned to shoot anybody but Dan in the first place, which is why he posted no thoughtprocess after Dan's defense. He had to shoot Dan because Dan was the SELF-CONFIRMING GOVERNOR and could fuck up scum's gameplan pretty easily.

Note that Rawr was obvious newbscum (seriously he was the exact same as I was in Mafioso, find target to park vote on then look for irrelevent questions and pressure to give people you're not lynching so everybody thinks you're doing stuff and scumhunting) for the entirety of D2 and yet Dormio only considered him as a vig target when asked, then completely forgot about him later.

It's pretty obvious Dormio was dead set on his vig target before shooting, because he was scum.

I have stuff to do so I can take a break from attempting LSD TWITTERPOSTING for now. But seriously, we're lynching Dormio after Affinity and Dorian have checked in.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #698 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:19:05 AM »

Normally I would laser eyes at Affinity for claiming to be bulletproof.
But Affinity has managed to be off every single scum wagon. If he's scum this game it would be amazing.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #699 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:20:56 AM »

Dan was a "reasonable target" if you agreed with the case on him, but whether he was reasonable as a target or not was irrelevant.

What's scummy is that Dormio shot him over PX and Rawr, two other great targets who would have flipped scum, without posting any proper thought process or addressing Dan's defense while shooting. He even said he considered Rawr when asked, then dropped it completely over the next few posts.

Plus, shooting PX and Rawr would have helped solve the "half the players are lurking / not contributing" dilemma. Dan was actively posting content that he could be hanged on.

That and the miller thing which is probably the biggest blemish on Dormio's playerslot atm.

Why is claiming situational bulletproof scummy, Shadoweh? <_< He has to declare it, so it's possible scum could figure something out.

Serela · « **Reply #700 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:21:33 AM »

Affinity, lovely. Too bad you being bulletproof isn't more useful especially as it's publically claimed, but ah well.

I want a quicklynch because A.That's how I roll and B.We've come down to "DORMIO IS MILLER, DIE" and setup shenanigans, how much are we really going to get out of the day after we plow through this posting spree? Nothing we can't do better tomorrow, at least.

The harping on you claiming was because lots of people think you're scummy, as shown by how quickly you went to L-1. If it comes down to there being a godfather, you would be a likely lynch candidate, and it's amazing how far a good fakeclaim goes when you're playing on MotK. Best to get it out of the way now before a scum could fabricate whatever is best for the situation.

Okay so I'm fine with a Dormio quicklynch happening now. SHADOWEH HOW DO YOU FEEL ON THIS MATTER.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #701 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:23:32 AM »

Shouldn't we wait for Doradia's claim, too?

Serela · « **Reply #702 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:23:58 AM »

Dorian? Oh yeah I forgot he existed.

I don't mind him as much but I guess.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #703 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:25:08 AM »

Eh, actually, I forgot about Rawr parking his vote on Maav for all of D1 (read: baby's first mislynch attempt).

Dorian is obvtown... probably.

I guess I'm fine with full steam ahead on the Dormio wagon again unless people think Dorian's claim is absolutely necessary. I'm pretty much willing to stake my pride as a scumhunter on his alignment so yeah.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #704 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:25:23 AM »

(dormio's, not dorian's)

Serela · « **Reply #705 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:26:05 AM »

Yeah I agree about Dorian being probably town, hence I don't mind if he doesn't get to fullclaim 'till tomorrow.

Bardiche · « **Reply #706 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:28:02 AM »

Works fer me.

##Unvote
##Vote Dormio

That's L-1.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #707 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:29:45 AM »

I will note here how much I hate miller roles.
Anyway, I've already used my power and as Shadoweh says we have several mislynches left provided 3 scum as HW guesses.
Process of elimination alone should be enough grab the town victory.

People I think are town: Bardiche (And Affinity by process of Bard town), Serela, HW
Unsure (and therefore scum): Shadoweh, Dorian

I'm going to the optometrist now, back whenever my eyesight is normal.

Vhaltz · « **Reply #708 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:31:18 AM »

A TRUE CLAIM HAS BEEN USED.

THAT IS ALL.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #709 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:31:28 AM »

:/

Dormio, in the odd case you're town, why's Affinity town but not Dorian?

Shadoweh · « **Reply #710 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:32:08 AM »

I think even well-reasoned quicklynches can go bad. We just watched a game with 12 vs 1 scum where the town quicklynched their way into a loss.

Claiming to be bulletproof is always weird because you've claimed to be bulletproof. Bulletproof becomes useless if scum know they can't kill you, and it gives you an excuse for being alive.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #711 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:33:59 AM »

Yeah, but the N3 and N4 kill pool is already pretty mapped out if Bard is town.

Dorian White · « **Reply #712 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:37:51 AM »

Contentposts and chocolate pudding at almost 4am.

Quote from: arsenicCatnip on February 17, 2012, 12:56:40 AM

- Affinity, Dorian, are either of you Miller?

No, there is at last nothing in my role pm about it.
And to your other question, Yes I think Dormio was busing PX.

But first my claim:
I am Aradia Megido, Maid of time and I'm a roleblocker.
When someone used his true claim can I step in to claim myself making the first one null and void. I have only limited time to do so, that's why I never used it and I just wasn't around at said times.

##FoS: Dormio

What I can recall from my reread on him is that his whole case on PX was basically the first OMGUS, I haven't thought about it too much mostly cause I haven't reread PX at the time but considering that this was all he had against him for one and a half game days looks odd.
Also my role makes me think that a scum day vig isn't too unlikely, I can only use it at day and I don't like to think that it's just there to mess with the other town roles.

Befor I forget I'm not voting him cause I'm not to fond of the quicklynch idea.

Bardiche · « **Reply #713 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:39:04 AM »

Bulletproof and a Town result is also exactly what a godfather gets, so... Aw fuck it, gut says Affinity over Shadoweh, so I'd go Dormio->Affinity->Shadoweh, if I get to live that long.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #714 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:42:06 AM »

Dorian, who'd you target N1 and N2?

Bardiche · « **Reply #715 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:43:01 AM »

He can't know N1 since he was headcrabs then, recall.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #716 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:43:44 AM »

Maav, not crabs.

I imagine the mod would have told him.

Also if he's scum then you just stopped him from making a potential scumslip but okay.

Serela · « **Reply #717 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:45:48 AM »

When he says he's a roleblocker I'd imagine he only meant his true claim, not also having it as a night power.

But I suppose he should clarify himself.

Dorian White · « **Reply #718 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:48:00 AM »

Quote from: arsenicCatnip on February 17, 2012, 02:42:06 AM

Dorian, who'd you target N1 and N2?

Quote from: Dorian G. on February 17, 2012, 02:37:51 AM

I can only use it at day and I don't like to think that it's just there to mess with the other town roles.

Any other questions?

Also I guess that I roleblockt Affinitty by mistake, sorry.^^;

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #719 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:50:14 AM »

Ah.

Can a mod confirm this?

After that, I don't see any reason in delaying the Dormio lynch. Feels like we've said all that needs to be said today.