Author Topic: IMP MAFIA - TOWN VICTORY  (Read 34826 times)

Bardiche

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #660 on: February 17, 2012, 01:21:11 AM »
And you die if your target is attacked? So a bodyguard.

I'm none too keen on blindly believing in my Cop power, given the suspect sanity and the threat of a godfather. In fact, I'm usually concerned when I get Cop because a Town result can blindtrack you into believing a godfather is Town. I feel strong enough about Dorian's Towniness that I am willing to believe in that, and I am a strong enough proponent in Shadoweh's scumminess that I'd lynch her over Affinity.


Also, those who have claimed, please full claim even then. It's important to have all the claims on the table at this point, so as to avoid any night action shenanigans and shignaggery.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #661 on: February 17, 2012, 01:22:14 AM »
Also, I bet I'm the only person who doesn't like being a Cop. :toot:

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #662 on: February 17, 2012, 01:23:45 AM »
Hi I just woke up and what's going on?


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #663 on: February 17, 2012, 01:26:04 AM »
The lovers are a problem, though. Best case scenario is that one of them is scum.
I have a feeling scum were not available as lovers, especially due to the amount of objects I had to choose for shipping from. 9, which is the 13 alive n1 minus me and three scum. It also fits well with how I had no idea who I targetted to Lover-ify; it means the mod can do that with my role without revealing the scum. (The objects were not something that could definitely be paired to a character.)

Hopefully either the lovers are the two non-scum alive on 3p LyLo or Shadoweh/tomorrow's lynch is scum or HW manages to stop an NK at some point. If any of those happen we're golden. We do pretty much have this in the bag outside of Dorian or Dormio being a godfather which would suck since I doubt we'd end up lynching them tomorrow. Or Bard being lying scum. But I seriously doubt Bard being lying scum and highly doubt Dormio being a vig godfather.

cuts! Shadoweh you're getting lynched no matter what happens today pretty much. Might as well fullclaim. I've already fullclaimed, woo. Also Bard, I'm pretty sure HW just means "I'd die from scum nking me while I protect you, because scum do not like letting confirmed town docs live."
For that matter I'd still really like Affinity to claim today. If Shadoweh isn't scum and Bard doesn't get a scum result, Affinity is up for getting highly likely lynched tomorrow, and I don't want him to try and cause an upset with some tailored roleclaim.
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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #664 on: February 17, 2012, 01:26:43 AM »
How did my cuts sentences end up before my Affinity sentences? Oh whatever.
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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #665 on: February 17, 2012, 01:27:53 AM »
And you die if your target is attacked? So a bodyguard.
...no? I never claimed this or tried to imply this.

I'm Kanaya Maryam, Town Doctor.
I can protect one player from imp attacks each night.
I can't protect the same player two nights in a row.
Once in the game, I may trueclaim as Kanaya, killing myself. I revive in 72 hours and am forced to vig on my first post back. I may not doc on a night where I am absent as a result of my true claim (like last night).

If scum knows I'm protecting you, they won't kill you because you're protected. They will instead presumably kill me because having a doctor around kind of sucks (unless i secretly out-gambit them and self-protect tonight oh shit).

To be perfectly honest, I think a Godfather probably exists. I believe Dormio is town, which means that we have two vigs, as well as a cop if you're telling the truth. Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather (immune to both scans and kills) would make sense for a basic set-up of Cop, Sacrificial Doc, Dayvig, Dayvig-Doc.

That doesn't necessarily make Shadoweh town, but I think her interactions with PX probably do in that they don't read as scripted.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #666 on: February 17, 2012, 01:28:45 AM »
There is no cop guilty on me. Why the fuck are you guys talking about quicklynching me?
Especially since I was trying to push a case on the second scum. Put your stupid roles aside for a moment. Rawr wasn't being suspected by anyone and that's who I wanted Dormio to shoot and WHO I'VE BEEN PUSHING THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN DAY.

You want to lynch me for trying to lynch scum. What the fuck is wrong with you?


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #667 on: February 17, 2012, 01:30:07 AM »
To be fair, you did set up a pass for Rawr after PX flipped scum.

Anyway, claim. Only two people are voting you right now, if you didn't notice.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #668 on: February 17, 2012, 01:31:39 AM »
The problem, Shadoweh, is that Bard has a town cop result on two people, everyone seems fairly sure I'm town, and HW is confirmed town, and Bard claimed cop and no one seems to feel like disputing this.

I do realize it's possible Bard is lying, though. But I'd like to think he isn't. I already had a town read on him beforehand, for one.
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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #669 on: February 17, 2012, 01:32:02 AM »
I realized those last two sentences contradict each other. "two people are voting you but you're super set-up for a lynch regardless so you should probably claim to get them off your back"

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #670 on: February 17, 2012, 01:32:17 AM »
Fullclaiming Eredan Ampora, Prince of Hope. Saying my name should do nothing now.
Stating name and title allows me to kill someone of my choice. I've been told that, had I not included a target, I would have shot myself.
There is one other part to my role that I never claimed. Shooting turns me into a miller.
Not going to vote, but will still reiterate the ##FoS Shadoweh.

Unfortunately, I need to go to the optometrist today and I'm not sure how this will affect my vision.
Ah well, I'll be back whenever.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #671 on: February 17, 2012, 01:33:18 AM »
I have a guess for what my role did, but it's entirely a guess because of how it worked and because PX is a jerk.
My true-claim says "Something will happen!"
So I did it.
I got a list of: Eridan Ampora, Kanaya Maryam, John Egbert, Rose Lalonde, Jade Harley, Nepeta Leijon, Karkat Vantas, Tavros Nitram, Dave Strider, Aradia Megido, and Equius Zahak.
I chose Karkat because he was the only name I recognized from the list.

Two seconds later PX declares I'm town and cites me saying I don't know what my true-claim did as the reason.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #672 on: February 17, 2012, 01:33:27 AM »
There is one other part to my role that I never claimed. Shooting turns me into a miller.
Final scum found.

##Unvote
##Vote Dormio

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #673 on: February 17, 2012, 01:34:01 AM »
You were a FUCKING DAY VIG. Why didn't you claim that AT THE EXACT MOMENT YOU SHOT, instead waiting until there's a cop planning to scan you tonight!?

Serela

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #674 on: February 17, 2012, 01:35:21 AM »
VIG MILLER.

Why.

It makes a lot of sense from both a balance AND a flavor perspective, so it's quite believable. (Plus I'm not surprised if someone doesn't claim "BY THE WAY I'M A MILLER NOW")

Arrrggghhhhhhhh

Now I want to lynch Dormio too.

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##...AUGH
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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #675 on: February 17, 2012, 01:35:31 AM »
Because the first time I claimed miller, people got all over me for it.
Ever since then, from what I've heard it's better to either not claim miller at all or claim it immediately. I decided not to claim it. Go sue me.

Shadoweh

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #676 on: February 17, 2012, 01:35:47 AM »
To be fair, you did set up a pass for Rawr after PX flipped scum.

Anyway, claim. Only two people are voting you right now, if you didn't notice.
Actually I was talking about PX flipping TOWN, remember. The town counterwagon wasn't Rawr though, it was Headcrabs.

There's a cop, two dead scum and neither of them is the godfather. It's foolish to rely on those results in the first place.


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Shadoweh

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #677 on: February 17, 2012, 01:38:38 AM »
Because the first time I claimed miller, people got all over me for it.
Ever since then, from what I've heard it's better to either not claim miller at all or claim it immediately. I decided not to claim it. Go sue me.
Are you talking about Mafia Rules Mafia? I don't remember anyone getting all over you for claiming miller, and you were lynched for your completely unrelated day effect. The argument you had with Lambda in Jojo's Bizarre Mafia was about HER claiming miller.

And claiming miller after the cop claims is always weird. Dormio why didn't you shoot PX?


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Serela

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #678 on: February 17, 2012, 01:39:13 AM »
why must this happen and make me want to lynch EVERYONE other then Dorian and HW? Fuck, it was so clear a minute ago.
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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #679 on: February 17, 2012, 01:39:57 AM »
I doubt Rawr and PX are scum together.
This is irrelevant, though, because Dormio is the last scum and panicked as a result of Bard's claim. He had to claim miller now because it's his only way of surviving after Bard gets a scum result tonight.

If you want, I can write up a huge case about how Dormio's D2 was awful. I was planning on shooting him ever since he shot Dan, but then PX flipped scum. Some of it still applies even with PX's flip. But I shouldn't need to because he's obvscum and we're lynching him today. If he flips town and we lose then I'll take the blame for the loss.

Fuck.

Bardiche

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #680 on: February 17, 2012, 01:41:00 AM »
Shadoweh, you told headcrabs not to shoot Serela or PX. On Dormio's shot, you directed attention to Dan, Bard and Affinity. You said you'd die for PX, so I think you were protecting him pretty fiercely.

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #681 on: February 17, 2012, 01:43:04 AM »
Dormio why didn't you shoot PX?
For NO REASON.

There was literally NOTHING in between obvtown Dan's giant defense wallpost and Dormio's vigshot.

PX needed to be the lynch so that town wouldn't have a scum flip to work off of and lynch Rawr instead. Rawr and PX were connected by way of Rawr proposing a PX lynch D1 but going nowhere with it and dropping the issue entirely D2.

He didn't declare his thought process. He didn't claim miller after Dan's flip even though it was the pro-town thing to do (since he would have been a possible Cop target after shooting a townie).

Because he's SCUM.

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Serela

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #682 on: February 17, 2012, 01:44:48 AM »
bold is a thing

##Unvote

Leaving you all to deal with the mindfuck this has turned into until I'm back from school tomorrow, we have almost the entirety of day 3 left still, so.

No wait nevermind I just want to kill Dormi-but it fits flavor auugh. Plus that could be the countermeasure instead of just a godfather (aka shadoweh scum). Worse, there could be a godfather -and- Dormio miller and then it's Affinity or Shadoweh scum.

See, this is why I'm going to leave now and come back in like, 19 hours when I'm home again. I can't decide right now. Need a break for my mind to clear out and let me think about this logically again.

At the moment though, I still find both Dormio and Shadoweh to be perfectly serviceable lynches for today. The problem is now if we only have two lynches remaining, I'm not sure whether I'd want to kill the other or Affinity tomorrow. Blah.
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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #683 on: February 17, 2012, 01:48:29 AM »
Actually, the absolute towniest thing to do would have been to say "hey, if I use my vig today, I turn into a miller" as soon as he claimed vig, before even shooting anybody.

But he didn't do that either.

Who cares that it fits the flavor? Scum can make up things that fit the flavor.

Guys why are you not lynching Dormio. This is just pointless stalling of the game imo. Maybe wait until Affinity and Dorian are around just in case somebody counterclaims Bard, but otherwise we're lynching Dormio today.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #684 on: February 17, 2012, 01:51:03 AM »
Woah calm down there. 6 town and 1 scum. We're in a good position right now. You could quicklynch me and Dormio and you'd still have a LYLO. Yes, huh what, I didn't think they were scum together. The wagons being between two  scum is weird at a first glance, but I didn't take into account that the only thing stopping operation Headcrabs was his impending modkill. You're talking about something I said when the only reason there was more discussion after PX hammered himself was because I pushed for it to happen when I didn't have to.

I would never kill that Schezo Night 1. I wouldn't be surprised if they random'd the results again.

Bard, I asked why he wasn't willing to shoot the two strongest players. I never directed him to you and Affinity because he wasn't willing to. I also said IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO SHOOT AFFINITY THEN SHOOT RAWR. NO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DORMIO WHILE YOU ARE CHOOSING BETWEEN DAN AND PX DO NOT SHOOT DAN.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #685 on: February 17, 2012, 01:52:18 AM »
My QUICKLYNCH LOVE (when justified enough) means I'll probably hammer Dorm if he hits L-1 before I go to bed.

But I do NOT want the day to end before Affinity claims. That's something that I greatly desire to happen first. I'm not even going to succumb to quicklynching desires if that hasn't happened yet.

Shadoweh you're forgetting about lovers! Don't feel bad, I forgot too.

Actually fuck it.

##Vote Dormio

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Bardiche

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #686 on: February 17, 2012, 01:54:53 AM »
I actually thought Shadoweh was trying to breadcrumb becoming lovers through Serela's power though which is why I think her continued defence of PX is so egregious.

Shadoweh go full claim.

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That alone makes a Dan lynch/vig more credible to me.

What's this.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #687 on: February 17, 2012, 01:57:06 AM »
I haven't even had time to read Dorian and Affinity's posts or any of the wagons!
...I had forgotten about lovers. So we have effectively two lynches because of Serela. <_< Or Serela is lying, but in that case he'll be lynched in LYLO so..

I already full-claimed. That's for reading my posts. That's for cutting out a part of my posts long before I changed my mind without pointing out I was urging him NOT to shoot Dan.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #688 on: February 17, 2012, 01:59:05 AM »
Thanks even. My keyboard does not seem to agree with words tonight.

You have some serious fucking balls, man. You're trying to blame me for a shot I disapproved of and take away credit for the scum lynch I was pushing like it was the holy grail because the other lynch was scum too.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 3
« Reply #689 on: February 17, 2012, 02:03:13 AM »
Counting votes is the best thing ever Votecount

Affinity:
Dorian: Affinity
Shadoweh: Bardiche
Dormio: Huh What, NeoSerela (L-2)

Not Voting: Dormio, Shadoweh, Dorian

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 3 ends in 69 hours.