Author Topic: IMP MAFIA - TOWN VICTORY  (Read 34833 times)

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #570 on: February 15, 2012, 05:36:41 PM »
errr i was hoping that quote you pointed out would answer the question =/

But what about serela makes him reasonable and town?

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #571 on: February 15, 2012, 05:46:42 PM »
When someone asks for your stance, you do not respond with questions: it's scummy to avoid giving your own opinion by having someone fill that in for you. Do you think it is the case that Serela is "confirming someone else as Town" to make himself look as Town, yes/no?

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #572 on: February 15, 2012, 05:51:52 PM »
yes

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #573 on: February 15, 2012, 05:56:13 PM »
i feel like ive been repeating my stance on serela over and over again.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #574 on: February 15, 2012, 05:58:43 PM »
How does Scum!Serela speaking the truth result in Town!BT?

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #575 on: February 15, 2012, 06:04:47 PM »
Note that this is not an inquiry related to scumminess: I want to understand your standpoint on that exactly. It is still not lucid to me, since Scum!Serela doesn't imply anything about BT as far as I can see and I would like to know why you feel that irrespective of alignment, Serela being honest results in BT being definite Town.

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #576 on: February 15, 2012, 07:21:35 PM »
why would scum confirm other scum as town and the set up a perfect reason to nightkill the scum they just confirmed as town?

Also i would like to point out, depending on how night turns out wouldnt there be 5 4 potential kills overall? IF non of them end up scum anyone with a suicide roll will never get a chance to because of lylo right?
-huhwhat kill
-dormio kill
-lynch
-nightkill
-headcrabs modkill

I would like an answer on my previous question also, just because im on the spot doesnt mean I cant ask questions. The question applies to affinity and bard since they seem to share the same thoughts on serela.

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #577 on: February 15, 2012, 07:22:55 PM »
unless that bah post by huhwhat meant that we killed his target :V

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #578 on: February 15, 2012, 07:36:16 PM »
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why would scum confirm other scum as town and the set up a perfect reason to nightkill the scum they just confirmed as town?
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When someone asks for your stance, you do not respond with questions: it's scummy to avoid giving your own opinion by having someone fill that in for you.

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How does Scum!Serela speaking the truth result in Town!BT?

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #579 on: February 15, 2012, 07:40:23 PM »
that first one is a rhetorical question, you dont need to answer the question to understand the point im trying to make =/

There would be no reason for scum to confirm other scum as town and setup a reason for scum to nightkill that person.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #580 on: February 15, 2012, 07:54:10 PM »
You could argue that precisely because there's no reason that scum would do it that scum would do it: the point of being Scum is to act in a way that looks like you aren't helping Scum. You're letting yourself be blindsided, and that is why I am asking these questions. Do not clear people by the strength of their claims: clear them by the strength of their arguments and actions. You claim you do so here, but you don't apply it universally.

Now, you said Serela is scum. Your vote is on headcrabs. Why headcrabs over Serela? What's in Scum!Headcrabs that isn't in Scum!Serela that you'd rather see Headcrabs flip than Serela?

Also, all you other people? I don't mind :words: from you. What do you think of the current discourse with Rawr? Do you find it useless/meaningful? Affinity asked about my read on PX over headcrabs, or PX over Rawr... so let's hear you people.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #581 on: February 15, 2012, 07:55:15 PM »
Well here we are again
It's always such a pleasure
Remember when you tried
to kill me twice?
Oh how we laughed and laughed
Except I wasn't laughing
Under the circumstances
I've been shockingly nice

You want my lynch now?
Take it
That's what I'm counting on

I used to want you dead
but
Now I only want to be gone

I was a lot like you
(Maybe not quite as talky)
Now little ActionDan is in here too
One day they woke me up
So I could live forever
It's such a shame the same
will never happen to you

You've got your
short sad
life left
That's what I'm counting on
I'll get you right after this
Now I only want you gone

Goodbye my only friend
Oh, did you think I meant you?
That would be funny
if it weren't so sad
Well you have been replaced
I don't need anyone now
When I delete you maybe
[REDACTED]
(I'll stop feeling so bad)

Go make some new disaster
That's what I'm counting on
You're someone else's problem
Now I only want you gone
Now I only want you gone
Now I only want you...
gone

STOP

HAMMERTIME

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##Vote: PX

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #582 on: February 15, 2012, 08:03:25 PM »
No more talking.

Affinity:
BT:
Dr. Rawr: Shadoweh, Bardiche
Huh What:
Shadoweh:
Bardiche:
NeoSerela:
Action Dan:
Headcrabs: Affinity
PX: Dormio, BT, Dorian, NeoSerela,  Dr. Rawr, PX (Lynch)
Dormio:

Not Voting: Headcrabs

Lynch has been reached. Please wait for Chaore to post the results.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #583 on: February 15, 2012, 08:04:55 PM »
Well, to reverse the question, what about one-liner posts is town to you? Don't you dislike the lack of content to read? After examining your PX case I don't see anything wrong with it, so I'm still willing to work with you. Even if it's weird when you're talking. :o
I don't think it is town but I also don't see it as scum. He posts one liners everywhere else too, and I just doubt that a role PM magically changes his posting habits regardless of its alignment. And yes his content is thin but you can say the same about PX and Headcrabs, so I see still no reason to put above PX.
Again do you have any reason to think that PX is town aside from your ?maaagical something? and meta?

While the reasons for voting PX have more or less been said in different guises already, it worries me that none of the people on the wagon have actually delved into why PX over headcrabs, and to a slightly less extent, rawr, the first two of which are scummy for similar reasons.  Would be nice if everyone could order those three potential lynches into some system of ranking.  Dorian. G for me stands out as taking the path of least resistance so far, going for Dan and PX for elaborated but more or less standard reasons and taking the not so controversial town reads.  He does not have the advantage of a history of side suspicions that Bardiche, BT, and others had, and so I'm quite wary of him.  Might be something for tomorrow.
Well I'm really sorry that I wasn't able to bring up new and innovative revelations but I stood under the impression that I would have only limited time to push the only scum read I had then against an established wagon on one of my town reads, so I may have rushed some things.
Now to your question, I think I already made my point on Rawr clear (see above) and about  Headcrabs, even leaving his role aside have I trouble to see him in a scum team, nor any kind of team. The only setup with scum Headcrabs that makes sense to me would be a set up pawn sacrifice that get bused at the next best opportunity. Considering that he got through day one without being voted even once is this a unlikely scenario.

So far so bad, I made the mistake to look into the more recent post and I have to say that what Rawr said there doesn't even begins to make sense.

Next post PX ? goddam
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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #584 on: February 15, 2012, 08:07:48 PM »
I hate all of you. Rules say we can talk before Chaore posts results.
Dormio is possibly a scum vig. huh what, don't just shoot Rawr, look with your heart and make the right decision. Even if he's scum, he's not the only one.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #585 on: February 15, 2012, 08:09:25 PM »
BT isn't confirmed town, the way Serela's claim works makes it possible that giving the scum the identity of whoever he picked is punishment for making Serela suicide.
Serela isn't confirmed town either, until two people die together.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #586 on: February 15, 2012, 08:10:08 PM »
PS if you couldn't tell I'm assuming a town flip. Because PX voted himself. 100% town tell yo.


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capt. h

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #587 on: February 15, 2012, 08:15:36 PM »
Shadoweh is correct. Continue talking.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #588 on: February 15, 2012, 08:18:26 PM »
NOPE.AVI

Scum flip wheeeeee

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #589 on: February 15, 2012, 08:19:26 PM »
lol shadoweh

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #590 on: February 15, 2012, 08:20:16 PM »
I wish you'd gotten on earlier, Shadomeh! Actually, there's still time, so maybe you can tell me what's in Scum!Rawr that isn't in Scum!PX.

Rawr, you can still answer my question!

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #591 on: February 15, 2012, 08:21:52 PM »
Actually, with PX's revelation I suppose that isn't necessary anymore, Shadi.

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #592 on: February 15, 2012, 08:23:14 PM »
PX I swear to god if you're actually scum again I will strangle you for daring to flip red.

You keep asking that but I don't have something concrete to give you. I don't have a "Rawr is worse then PX because X" because I haven't been comparing them. PX presented reasoning that makes sense to me. His reason for suspecting Dormio looked really good to me. It's not that I think Rawr is worse, it's that I didn't have nasty PX vibes and Rawr was more likely to be scum.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #593 on: February 15, 2012, 08:23:50 PM »
I still think he's trolling.


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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #594 on: February 15, 2012, 08:25:59 PM »
By the by. I see lots of posts commenting on Headcrabs' modkill, and I don't see why considering Chaore already commented on him asking for a replacement and having him modkilled if he is not replaced by the beginning of the next Day.

Kind of useless right now considering recent events but figure that some could still use the reminder.


EDIT: Eh, I thought it'd be fine since I was just repeating what Chaore said, but in retrospect I can see how it could have game impact. Sorry about this.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 08:42:07 PM by Remilius »

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #595 on: February 15, 2012, 08:27:15 PM »
headcrabs at the time looked scummier, but then serelas 509 made me do reread on him.

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #596 on: February 15, 2012, 08:29:29 PM »
someone admits they are scum
shadoweh goes nope thats a lie

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #597 on: February 15, 2012, 08:30:35 PM »
It's fine Shadoweh WE'LL SEE.

Remilius, thanks for the heads-up, but I think you're actually commenting on the game now. Considering someone's attempts to get someone lynched useless because that player slot is getting modkilled is a valid game concern, so mods shouldn't take sides or comment on it.

Rawr, Shadoweh's nope.jpg isn't really scummy behaviour though. PX does this thing where he shits on Town regardless of his alignment.

Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #598 on: February 15, 2012, 08:31:21 PM »
im not saying its scummy im saying its funny  :derp:

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Re: IMP MAFIA - DAY 2
« Reply #599 on: February 15, 2012, 08:34:41 PM »
Well, messing with Shadoweh is always funny. I encourage this course of action. :derp: