Author Topic: a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録～ The Devil of Decline (Read 152450 times)

Vilkni · « **Reply #90 on:** January 02, 2012, 08:40:21 AM »

@Syanas, where did you get 16 shikigamis from? I actually only counted 15 shikigamis before you had to go to the second landmass, and that's 10 new shikigamis to go with your 5 initial shikigamis, unless I missed a shikigami somewhere.

Anyways, having some progress in finally getting extra shikigamis, but I wanted to share a tip: when you enter a red portal, right when the boss battle starts, reset. You'll be back at the red portal and if it lets you warp to the portal, it will show up a text indicating you can warp to it via the W key.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #91 on:** January 02, 2012, 08:43:11 AM »

Yeah I've done that trick myself when I needed to go back and heal.

Just look at my earlier post, see which one you're missing.

And oh, my bad, I meant 14. Tell me which ones you got from the first landmass before heading to the second one and I'll compare.

Vilkni · « **Reply #92 on:** January 02, 2012, 08:47:49 AM »

Well, I was missing

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because I didn't explore that one, but then I remembered there were codes that activated a pre-order shikigami, so uh yeah 14 without the pre-order shikigami sounds about right, because I would have been actually at 13 were it not for a pre-order shikigami that I forgot about.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #93 on:** January 02, 2012, 08:50:34 AM »

Where did you get said codes?

Vilkni · « **Reply #94 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:09:26 AM »

I don't know if I'm allowed to post pre-order codes, but here is a link to the list of pre-order shikigamis from different shops you could pre-order from:

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As to getting this one, check the 2nd desert on the first landmass.

However, you can only have one code entered at a time unlike GoS where you could get ALL items if you knew the codes. Which means only one pre-order shikigami is allowed in the shikigami group.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #95 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:14:25 AM »

Lol, a Hatsune Miku shikigami. There's no usable codes there though, and I'm too lazy to figure out how to get one myself.

Battler · « **Reply #96 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:59:40 AM »

Well, I spent like 30 minutes looking and I couldn't find the Hookpoint for

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so I just moved on to the mountain area on the second strata. I think the reward for beating the boss here is Route-specific, since I got

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despite it making no sense that she'd be up here.

The boss fight for it isn't too bad, as long as you keep using Dark attacks to prevent him from getting his HP regen in Light Land. Don't think he had any weaknesses, but I admittedly didn't actually try Light (or Mystic come to think).

blabla1994 · « **Reply #97 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:07:31 AM »

Oh wow, the second tower boss is pathetic, took her out on the second try.

Just spam light, over and over and over...

Battler · « **Reply #98 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:17:01 AM »

The real question is though, what level were you?

blabla1994 · « **Reply #99 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:17:33 AM »

20 was my highest.

Edit: I have a Kisume now.

Edit2: Apparently you don't need Satori equipped to recruit monsters.

Battler · « **Reply #100 on:** January 02, 2012, 11:57:04 AM »

Yeah, you're right. Chloe/Clowe really is pretty easy. My two main healers died early on and I still had no problems with just 3 characters. It also confirmed what I thought from the prologue:

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Other fun note is that apparently Chloe is an original Shinigami, or something like that. Not that the scythe wasn't a giveaway, or anything.

e: ~~Well, beating her didn't net me Satori or anything. How did you get her?~~ Nevermind, spoke too soon. Her sprite didn't load though, so the party was talking to thin air :wat:

e2: Is there anything you need to actually do to recruit monster shikigamis, or is it just an automatic thing?
e3: Hm, seems automatic. Maybe you can only recruit certain monsters? Kisume at least joined right away, which was nice.

BanBan · « **Reply #101 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:57:34 PM »

I run applocale in this game but it carsh how can I dix it

http://upic.me/i/51/crash.jpg

trancehime · « **Reply #102 on:** January 02, 2012, 01:54:25 PM »

i'll be scumming the DoD wiki as it gets updated and help out with translations if anybody cares since I lack time to really get into this game.

let me know if you are interested...

Battler · « **Reply #103 on:** January 02, 2012, 03:58:00 PM »

Well, aside from Daiyousei (who I completely forget the location of), I've gotten all the Monster Shikigamis I care to get (including Mind Flayer, squee~). Without either the extended Hookshot or the... whatever gets rid of the stopsigns, it's time to head down to the third strata.

First impression: the Makai levels here have an amazing theme. Actually, a lot of the music in the game is great. Way better than GoS at least.

e: Wow, Bad Apple battle theme? I can get behind that.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #104 on:** January 02, 2012, 05:54:02 PM »

The pass that gets rid of stop signs is deep in Blazing Fires, in the rightmost area. I haven't found the extended hook yet but I assume it's in the third strata. Also, I got

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there as well. Also, I'm incredibly sorry that I didn't double check, but

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actually in the mountains! Sorry, I was wondering why something didn't sound right.

Trance, I'd be happy to help out, but I don't have a single clue how to edit wikis. If you want to discuss, PM me for my MSN and we can talk it over.

BanBan, I tried using Applocale too and it crashed. Try running without it.

homing curvy laser · « **Reply #105 on:** January 02, 2012, 07:32:15 PM »

I read somewhere that the extended hook is found in the

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, so eh good luck getting past the zombie.
Daiyousei, if I'm not mistaken, can be found

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. You can find Shizuha (is that her name?) in the same way, but she's found in

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.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #106 on:** January 02, 2012, 07:33:27 PM »

How do you get monster Shikis? Do they automatically have a chance of getting added after you get Satori?

Vilkni · « **Reply #107 on:** January 02, 2012, 07:37:43 PM »

On the japanese wiki, it turns out someone managed to recruit metal yukkuris.

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Not only that, apparently the other yukkuris enemies can be recruited.

And yes, you only need to get Satori, people didn't even equip her and got monster shikigamis anyways.

Battler · « **Reply #108 on:** January 02, 2012, 08:58:51 PM »

You can only get certain monsters as Shikigamis, as listed here. They also seem to have different odds of asking to join. Some only took a few attempts, but Mindflayer-chan took me a while. I imagine Metal Yukkuris are pretty rare, which sucks because holy damn Stars in everything.

So far I've gotten Kedama, Kisume, Kyabia, Peri, Zaqqum, Otohime, Angel, Sunflower Fairy, Angel, Sylph, some naga-looking thing, the Tire dude, Mindflayer, Manuscript, Dragon Maid, and Dryad.

Peri in particular is completely amazing, since holy fuck Chasers do insane damage for some reason.

Pesco · « **Reply #109 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:26:24 PM »

How does world map warping work? It's nice and all to grind while walking places, but the visibility of some of the pathways is heck annoying

Vilkni · « **Reply #110 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:31:27 PM »

Press the W key. It opens up the map and lets you warp to portal exits. Keep in mind it also FORCES the respawning of mobs.

Pesco · « **Reply #111 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:45:38 PM »

World map
- A: list of places in that area
- B: leave the world map
- Y: sound effect that seems to tell me I can't use it
- L/R: dunno what it does

What am I doing wrong?

Saber Nero · « **Reply #112 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:55:33 PM »

Press A again after you open up the list of the place you want to go. Note that it will only bring you to the entrance of an area. Some areas may have more than one, and the ones marked "

" means you haven't unlocked or found it yet.

Y just changes the speed of the cursor when you're browsing the world map. It has 3 settings. L/R scrolls between strata.

Battler · « **Reply #113 on:** January 02, 2012, 10:03:03 PM »

It's worth noting that warping actually doesn't cause the mobs to respawn. Only dying/hitting a heal point does.

Oh, and thanks for the correction on

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. No real harm done, though I do sort of wish I had had her earlier - she's pretty awesome for tanks! No lucking finding Daiyousei (she refuses to spawn) but I did happen across

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in the forest in the 3rd strata. I wasn't prepared though and got my ass handed to me.

Vilkni · « **Reply #114 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:18:40 AM »

@Syanas, I remember you saying earlier that the creators of this game really liked party splitting BS, forcing you to level everyone in GoS (Which I can understand, but...).

Today someone confirmed that there was no party splitting even at the end. So that's one less thing to worry about, at least.

Anyways, the level cap is apparently 70 for now.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #115 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:50:19 AM »

Oh. Well, I guess that means I can just pick the 5 fastest fighters/spellcasters and go nuts.

homing curvy laser · « **Reply #116 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:22:19 PM »

Looks like this game is much shorter than GoS (you can reach the final tower in less than 30 hours, no idea how long it takes to reach the final boss though), so people who were put off by that game's enormous length should enjoy this one a bit more.

By the way, for anyone interested in grinding, the enemies in areas you can access with the hookshot/thing that makes you destroy "no entry" signs that shall be henceforth known as UNDENIER or FIGHT THE POWER/longshot (which are stronger versions of the basic enemies like kedamas, slimes and fairies) give fixed experience, or in other words, the experience they give doesn't scale with level, and they also apparently have higher chances to drop crafting materials. And on top of that, some of those areas even have a room with a healing circle, so once you kill everything you can just go there and respawn everyone. How thoughtful of Strawberry Bose!

Ah yeah, forgot to mention that you can find the longshot

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. It's really in the middle of the way and there's no way you can miss it, so don't worry if you're a lazy person who doesn't look for goodies on every nook and cranny of a map.

Battler · « **Reply #117 on:** January 03, 2012, 03:57:59 PM »

Is the

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Because if so I managed to not find it!

Incidentally, the boss went down like a busta. I went in with a half-assed setup meant to determine her weaknesses and such, and wound up killing her with ease once I noticed she was weak to physical (or at least to pierce).

e: Christ, the first tower boss is still kicking my ass. There's gotta be some kind of trick to that fight or something.

homing curvy laser · « **Reply #118 on:** January 03, 2012, 05:55:38 PM »

Nope, it's... what happens when you beat all three tower bosses.
As for the zombie, she has really amazing defenses apparently, and no weaknesses to boot, so your best bet against her might be a strong blunt weapon user. My axe Okuu was doing more damage to her than my sword Meiling, for example, Also, try to get the scarecrow shikigami, as she knows Jammer which is a world effect that reduces damage from an element of choice (water in this case). And don't try buffing/debuffing much because she loves to spam Vortex, like every truly annoying boss in these two games.

Battler · « **Reply #119 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:45:30 PM »

Whew, I was so used to this game being pretty easy that I forgot how helpful actually strategizing could be. Jammer neutered damage, and I just gradually Fire Chased her into oblivion. Definitely more of an endurance match than a sprint.

e: Ooooh. That's why the center of each map was darkened out.

e2: Huh.

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, huh? Man, I can't even begin to guess where Strawberry Bose got that one.

e3: ~~Aaaand now I have no idea where to go.~~ Nevermind figured it out. I was wondering what was up with the endlessly looping desert.

Author Topic: a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録 ～ The Devil of Decline (Read 152450 times)

Author Topic: a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録～ The Devil of Decline (Read 152450 times)