a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録 ～ The Devil of Decline

[Serela]

It debuffs both enemy ATK and DEF.

Ooooooh...

Oooh, that's good. Then it should stack with normal ATK and/or DEF debuffs, plus the core stat debuffs. That's really notable.

[trancehime]

yeah i have no issues with translating a gigantic list of skill names over time if google translate is going to lead to confusions like this.

:3

[Vilkni]

It's just too bad that move, like other moves that debuff the atk/def/etc. stats themselves, seems impossible to land on the first tower boss.

Gah, why do only stats debuffs work on her and why are these worthless?

[Serela]

For the most part, it's pretty straightforward, but more subtle things like that can confuse. But it's hard to tell about slayers (Sword skills) though, and a few skills that I can't quite remember...

I shouldn't be one to talk though, given that I haven't even as much as run the game yet >_>; I'm too much of a stickler for wanting to read all the dialogue. I shall contentedly wait, which isn't a bad thing, as it means all sorts of stuff will get patched by the developers, and possibly charts of character aptitudes appearing at some point!

I do wonder how long it will be before an expansion. Considering how the level cap is and the stairs leading to nowhere, and a few other details, it seems like it's a thing that will happen, after all :P

Still gotta finish GoS in any case. I got distracted off of DoD... finally hit the final stage in that today. 204 hours... I got so distracted by subquests in that >.>

...but back on topic, it is curious that a stat debuff would land on her and not be effective. But I lack the in-game quality to experiment with. All I know is that Koishi's base stat debuff spell is so pretty and costs a lot of mp, while other shikigamis have spells that are functionally similar but graphically and delay/mp different... and probably have lesser amounts of debuffing.

She does sound like a problem though, from what I've heard. The only thing that comes to mind which I haven't already heard tried would be attempting an evasion-based counter to her physicals (With ice wall against the water spells, of course), but I'm not sure how realistic it is, especially if Dex debuffs don't do anything. Just because she uses blunt attacks doesn't necessarily mean she has a lower accuracy... but it comes to mind for me.

From a video, though, it seems like she isn't too scary if you just take her on last. But I'm not sure how high of a level this guy is... and the upgraded version is a different matter. I remember hearing about some skill to increase physical resistance, but don't quite remember who it was on...

[theshirn]

Just got Murasa by pounding another demon's face in.  Whee!  You say she's got field effects, those may be useful.

Got a Peri, which is awesome, except that I don't really have more than one, maybe two sources for the primary elements, and every goddamn enemy has party-wide berserk or stun or paralyze or blind to make it useless, at least until my casters get faster.  Found both Yuyuko and Shikieiki, so I've got what is probably going to be my final party: Reimu, Mokou, Yuka, Shikieiki and Yuyuko.  Everyone is reasonably durable and tend to have fairly good stats across the board.

[homing curvy laser]

Landing stat debuffs (STR down, VIT down, etc) on the first tower boss seems to work most of the time, but those debuffs hardly do anything at all. I don't know, maybe it's just because Reisen's debuff and Decrease are just bad? It's a pity that those are pretty much all you get up until finding Koishi. Also, debuffs on ATK, DEF, RES and so on didn't seem to work for me, so those don't help either... ah yeah, and she seems to get cursed fairly often (if you use a certain spear found pretty late in the game), but that's pretty much the worst status condition to inflict because it requires you to take damage to work. :V.
But yeah, the one thing I didn't try was buffing my evasion, but that makes sense because I don't even know if there's an evasion buff. Lyrica, for instance, only gets RES, HIT, ATK, DEF and MATK, so... maybe using Increase on AGI could work? That buff doesn't really seem to help much, either...

[theshirn]

Got Dragon Maid and Unicorn on the first battle.  Dragon Maid is especially useful for stacking chases along with Orin or Letty.

[theshirn]

WELP.

Found the third tower, so I've cleaned house on all three strata minus longshot areas.  The boss guarding it though can twoshot Shikieiki and Yuyuko with his AoE electric attack...which he spams.

This is not going to be fun.

[GigaOne5]

WELP.

Found the third tower, so I've cleaned house on all three strata minus longshot areas.  The boss guarding it though can twoshot Shikieiki and Yuyuko with his AoE electric attack...which he spams.

This is not going to be fun.

That fight can be really easy if you bring along someone who can over write her field effects. Also an accuracy up since she is so weak physical attacks

[Vilkni]

Also, don't attempt to go higher than 256 for STR, INT, etc. because that's the cap for the 6 core stats. Dunno if that can go higher in battle, though, via buffs.

[homing curvy laser]

WELP.

Found the third tower, so I've cleaned house on all three strata minus longshot areas.  The boss guarding it though can twoshot Shikieiki and Yuyuko with his AoE electric attack...which he spams.

This is not going to be fun.

Weird, I just fought him again (WHY DID I START ANOTHER GAME) and the fight went as smoothly as the first time (or even better, because this time I abused chasers and finished him in three turns). Never saw that killer AoE attack, or maybe I saw it, but it was so unimpressive I didn't think anything of it. Well, try spamming Elec resistance gears and shikigami on everyone.
By the way, Yuyuko might have nice stats on everything, but since her lowest one is INT she might not be that good of a spellcaster.
And, uh... does the Bardiche really give magical damage +10%?

[Serela]

Yuyuko's int compared to her str is a pretty negligible difference. Only 5 points... at level 70, where you'll have tons of stat padding from equipment and shikigami (and buffs sometimes)

[theshirn]

Oh, that's right.  I found a chest somewhere that triggered a message, much like the silver chests with the hookshot and the...thingy that lets you get past the red no entry symbols, but this was a regular chest.  Anyone know what this is?

[Anima Zero]

Started this game a couple days ago.  Pretty fun so far.

Picked Reimu at the start, then starting plinking away.  Currently added a Nitori to my team who immediately replaced Utsuho (she seems rather prone to getting KO'd due to her meh HP), then found a desert like area where enemies had like 2x the HP, kept coming in groups of 4-5, did lovely amounts of damage (Watching something boom on my team for like 80 damage to those hit when my max HP levels are hovering around 70-110...), and gave me my first Game Over.  Fantastic.

[theshirn]

You've been going north steadily, right?

That's the third Makai on the first stratum, and will probably be the last area you clear before heading down.  I made that mistake too. :V  Head west from the shrine, rather than north.  You'll loop around and get there a few levels stronger and wipe mobs with ease.

[Barrakketh]

I started the game a few days ago but haven't had much time to play.  I started with Byakuren, and spent a large amount of my time basically wandering around the fields outside of the shrine (if it's still playing your lead character's theme, I probably explored there).  Picked up

Spoiler:

Nitori

and Marisa, and

Spoiler:

whatever generic elemental shikigami's name is, Aya, and Yamame

as shikigamis.  And more importantly, lots of warp points for easier access to places I need to go next.

Of course, I'm probably right around the point where I need to pick a place to explore next. And I'll probably be one character down for a bit, because I really want to swap Sanae out for someone else.

[theshirn]

Of course, I'm probably right around the point where I need to pick a place to explore next. And I'll probably be one character down for a bit, because I really want to swap Sanae out for someone else.

People catch up really fast in this, and with good shikigami to compensate for the low level you won't notice that heavy of a difference except that they die a bunch more until they level a bit.  Damage-wise they'll still keep up.  (I've switched out all but two of my party at this point, one multiple times.  It's not so bad.)

You're probably better off deciding on a endgame party to shoot for early, though.  Just because they can catch up doesn't make it that much fun to do if you do it with every single character.

[Vilkni]

Oh, that's right.  I found a chest somewhere that triggered a message, much like the silver chests with the hookshot and the...thingy that lets you get past the red no entry symbols, but this was a regular chest.  Anyone know what this is?

Was that in the second desert area on the first stratum? That IS the preorder code chest - it only opens when you enter a preorder code at the third menu option at the title menu.

EDIT: Me not understand http://www.gensoukyou.org/wazabosyuu/. What does that one say?

[theshirn]

No, it was somewhere on the third stratum.  Can't remember exactly where.

[Barrakketh]

Just got

Spoiler:

Orin

.  I'm not sure what level you're supposed to be at for that fight (I was 9), but that single-target fire attack hurts a lot.  Heavily shifts the land towards fire, too.

[homing curvy laser]

People catch up really fast in this, and with good shikigami to compensate for the low level you won't notice that heavy of a difference except that they die a bunch more until they level a bit.  Damage-wise they'll still keep up.  (I've switched out all but two of my party at this point, one multiple times.  It's not so bad.)

You're probably better off deciding on a endgame party to shoot for early, though.  Just because they can catch up doesn't make it that much fun to do if you do it with every single character.

Everything levels up really fast up until level 10 or so, but from then on it slows down considerably. The experience curve in this game seems a bit weird... but it doesn't matter that much, really, since the best thing you get from levels are more HP and MP. Also, shikigami start slowing down with their stat growth rate at around level 30, so I guess cycling them around at that point could be a nice idea if you're grinding something you're not using much. Or something like that.

By the way, if you are worried about crafting stuff in this game - don't be. It looks like it's much more lenient on this than GoS was, most likely because of the absence of character-specific weapons. For instance, I've just completed the third level (obviously no zombie killed yet) and I've been able to craft every weapon I found the recipe for, except for the ones that require Trapezohedron because I've only found one of them so far (anyway, the sword you get from it isn't even that great and I have no need for a new axe at this point), and it doesn't look like I'd be having much trouble making more armors either. No idea about accessories, though. Also, if you end up needing bamboos, rocks and so on, you can just visit any hookshot/sealed/longshot area and enjoy the 10% drop rate on those items there.

Also, Peri, I have no idea of how I managed to beat the game once without having found you. Oh god, chasers+breaths are so delicious (unless you find a group of four dragonflies and a guy who uses Fire Chaser on you, then it's just painful).

[Saber Nero]

Soooooo I'm back :V and it seems there's no word on the files for this game being readied for translation. Is there no interest or everyone's too busy?

[Vilkni]

TheNewGuy posted on pooshlmer a screenshot of a translated line. It in fact is possible just like GoS, but the patches prevents the translation from being put in for the time being. That said, it has been 4 days since the latest patch, we all would like to go a week without a new patch at the minimum.

Anyways, I think the best way to go around translating would be to just translate the entire game before putting it into the game files, so that when patches change descriptions all the translators have to do is change the descriptions of things that were changed in the patch.

[Anima Zero]

You've been going north steadily, right?

That's the third Makai on the first stratum, and will probably be the last area you clear before heading down.  I made that mistake too. :V  Head west from the shrine, rather than north.  You'll loop around and get there a few levels stronger and wipe mobs with ease.

Sure feels like I've been going north.  I only made a side trip east to find a new area where Nitori was.

Looks like it's back to looking for that path I passed up then, thanks.

[Sungho]

EDIT: Me not understand http://www.gensoukyou.org/wazabosyuu/. What does that one say?

A vote for the strongest skill you want to see in the game.
If it qualifies, the skill will appear in the game(+α?).
Most likely the one with the most votes will appear in the game, but could be more than one skill.
Will be announced at 1/23, which could mean another patch, or not.

[Vilkni]

So there's a possibility that even if one skill wins the most votes, we probably will see more skills added in the next patch.

At least that adds content, but I wonder how often they'll do contests to add more things, though.

[Serela]

It's a good question. The shikigami contest wasn't surprising; I don't imagine making 5 shikigami takes much effort other then producing 5 shikigami-form sprites, and is a really cool thing for them to do, but the skill is, well, different!

[homing curvy laser]

Especially for something like skills, out of every possible thing.
Anyway, given how the original character contest winner was a food Touhou, I expect something fun from the results of this one.

[trancehime]

Anyways, I think the best way to go around translating would be to just translate the entire game before putting it into the game files, so that when patches change descriptions all the translators have to do is change the descriptions of things that were changed in the patch.

It could still pose to be a hassle. Note that the case with GoS, translation became a lot more smooth when patches started dying down.

[Vilkni]

A vote for the strongest skill you want to see in the game.
If it qualifies, the skill will appear in the game(+α?).
Most likely the one with the most votes will appear in the game, but could be more than one skill.
Will be announced at 1/23, which could mean another patch, or not.

Wait, is this google translation? Someone just said it was a second competition for a fan-made shikigami.

EDIT: Actually, is the quote I added to this one right or is this also TWO competitions, one for the skill and one for a fan-made shikigami?

EDIT2: Just checked with someone - looks like Sungho was correct. Sorry for the confusion.

Now for 1.09 patch news:

Ver1.09の変更点
・エピローグ演出を強化しました
・エフェクトを加筆しました
・特定のキャラが特定の武器を装備すると戦闘中にグラフィックが表示されない問題を修正しました
　（ルーンアクス、オリハルコンナイフ装備時など）
・ソートがおかしかったアイテムが正しくソートされるようになりました
・マップやイベントの不具合を修正しました