a new ichigo-bose game: 東方幻想魔録 ～ The Devil of Decline

[theshirn]

realkana.com

I picked up both types in an hour and a half.  It's really not that bad.  (Kanji still kicks my ass, of course.)

[Serela]

Oh yeah, I forgot; INT increases critical damage (including physical crits) and STR increases damage boosts when hitting a weakness.

Also, google translate on the japanese wiki ( http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www54.atwiki.jp/maroku ) works for just about all the shikigami stuff as well, unless it isn't filled in yet (High level skills/passives/stat boosts and rare enemy shikigami are not yet filled in, in many cases; but most stuff is.)

But I like knowing the dialogue, is the thing. :V

[GigaOne5]

So I got the

Spoiler:

Metal Yukkuri and for some reason its not giving the Star resistance to everything when equipped.

   Is it a higher level passive?

[Serela]

Huh... you sure? That sounds strange. It should have that passive from the start (You can look and see it in it's passive list as well)

If it's not in the passive list the only thing I can think of is "That's not the shikigami you think it is." or they changed it.

[Vilkni]

The reason it doesn't give you elemental resistances is because

Spoiler:

IT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE DAMAGE SOURCE. Yes, that means -90% damage reduction from all damage sources.

That's not the only ridiculous passives the line of trees of that specific group has, though. They're a ridiculous set of shikigamis in general.

[Serela]

The reason it doesn't give you elemental resistances is because

Spoiler:

IT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE DAMAGE SOURCE. Yes, that means -90% damage reduction from all damage sources.

That's not the only ridiculous passives the line of trees of that specific group has, though. They're a ridiculous set of shikigamis in general.

...does that mean you can stack it with normal resistances for further reduction? :V

[GigaOne5]

Nevermind seems to be fine now. Was facing the third tower boss while having it equipped at the time hoping it would be my ticket to victory. Nah that physical attack of hers is just murder. Still having an issue with the first tower boss though -__-

[Vilkni]

...does that mean you can stack it with normal resistances for further reduction? :V

Apparently, yeah. The -90% hp penalty is a big enough drawback until level 65 where it becomes -45% hp penalty instead. By the time you get there, though, other yukkuri shikigamis are far more ridiculous than metal yukkuris.

[GuyYouMetOnline]

realkana.com

I picked up both types in an hour and a half.  It's really not that bad.  (Kanji still kicks my ass, of course.)

Yeah, it doesn't look like that'll be too hard. Of course, just because I can read it doesn't mean I'll be able to understand it (although it should still help).

[patchouli]

hey, does anyone know where to get the extended hookshot?

[homing curvy laser]

I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now that it's halfway through the final dungeon.

[[E]c]

Yeah, it doesn't look like that'll be too hard. Of course, just because I can read it doesn't mean I'll be able to understand it (although it should still help).

Try using Translation Aggregator and Interactive Text Hooker then, those 2 should provide some help with translating stuffs like abilities ingame.

[Vilkni]

So uh remember how the yukkuri shikigamis had that special star to everything for damage? Turns out... it wasn't really giving you the resistances at all before the 1.07 patch. Welp!

EDIT: The 1.07 patch also broke a lot of sound effects. Whoops!

[GigaOne5]

Well its nice to know you get those Star resistances now. Though anyone know a good place to hunt the other yukkuri types?

[Vilkni]

Now that I think about it: What does the japanese part of the game title translate to?

Spoiler:

They also fixed Akyuu's bugged revive passive. :V

[Barrakketh]

Now that I think about it: What does the japanese part of the game title translate to?

The wiki has it as "Records of Fantasy Dream".

[Vilkni]

The wiki has it as "Records of Fantasy Dream".

I don't mean to nitpick, but it seems to be missing the Eastern (Or rather, Touhou) part of the Japanese and I'm not sure where the wiki got the Dream thing from.

EDIT: Although I guess I just want other translators' opinion on the Japanese part of the title and if it is Records of Fantasy Dream.

[Barrakketh]

I don't mean to nitpick, but it seems to be missing the Eastern (Or rather, Touhou) part of the Japanese and I'm not sure where the wiki got the Dream thing from.

Ask the person who made the edit.

[Domino369]

日本語はたのしですね。でも、も大変です。

That said, patch 1.07 notes. Google translate helps a little:
Ver1.07の変更点
・ＶＲＡＭが少なすぎると一部のシーンで落ちる現象を修正。
・ソフトリセットキーを追加しました。
（Ｌ＋Ｒ＋Ｓ＋Ｐを同時押し）
・一部のイベントでスキップするとレシピがもらえなくなる現象を修正。
（既に起こっていた場合も、今回のバージョンでレシピがもらえます。）
・一部のスキルが表記よりもダメージが弱くなっていたのを修正。
（威力が上昇したスキル：津波、カオスフレア、ヒートブレス、ヒノファンタズムなど）
・表記とダメージが釣り合っていなかったスキルの表記を修正。
（マインドブラストの威力は30が正しい。）
・技の表記も威力もおかしかったスキルを修正。
（ニュートラルブレスは威力70が正しい。）
・スキルに空欄があると挙動が怪しい問題を修正。
・魔理沙がルーンの杖を装備するとグラフィックが表示されない現象を修正。
・プラズマナイフの追加効果が正しく「大感電」になりました。
・グリーンベレー／レッドベレーが正しく連続攻撃できるようになりました。
・チェイス系、シールドガード系のように味方にかける物理系スキルでミスが出る現象を修正。
・スターサファイア、河城みとりなどのパッシブ能力の数値を表記通りに修正。
・阿求の「蘇生時のHP回復量上昇」能力が正しく機能するように修正。
・メタル系のパッシブ能力「☆すべて」が正しく機能するように修正。

[GuyYouMetOnline]

Well, I'm managing to play the game all right, but I'd really like to know just what the heck is going on. I don't suppose anyone's found a story translation anywhere? Hell, if nothing else, even just a summary would do.

Anyways, I chose Byakuren because she's playable way too rarely. She certainly gets an odd starting party, I'll tell you that much (what the hell were Yuyuko and Remilia even doing there?). I like how she's actually fairly durable; she may be a magician, but she specializes in physical enhancement, so she really shouldn't be all that fragile. She's no tank (I don't know who all would be good for that, or when I'll get them), but still, it's nice to see a game that actually takes her specialty into account with her stats (she does tend to get support abilities).

[theshirn]

Anyways, I chose Byakuren because she's playable way too rarely. She certainly gets an odd starting party, I'll tell you that much (what the hell were Yuyuko and Remilia even doing there?). I like how she's actually fairly durable; she may be a magician, but she specializes in physical enhancement, so she really shouldn't be all that fragile. She's no tank (I don't know who all would be good for that, or when I'll get them), but still, it's nice to see a game that actually takes her specialty into account with her stats (she does tend to get support abilities).

All the main characters are surprisingly tanky.  In fact, Byakuren is actually the squishiest of them by a chunk.  Lowest defense (a solid 22 behind the next lowest, Yukari, at level 70) and only a few points of POT more than Meiling.  She's also a good 40-odd HP behind.

Good tanks are Mokou and Yuka.  Neither is too far through the game.

[Battler]

I've been kind of skimming the dialogue, but the gist if the plot is...

Spoiler:

3 chicks from Makai, named Chloe Gripper (the shinigami), Xa Zuri (the long-sleeved zombie), and Shijuukara Otoha pop and and bring some towers with them. They want to bring about the destruction of Gensoukyo, so that they can create a new Makai in its place. They eventually revive a Great Devil by the name of Anra Menorg to be their leader. I thiiink her power is to steal other people's powers (but I might have read that wrong) and she plans on using Keine's history manipulation.

My Japanese isn't the greatest though, so yeah, might have misread some of the finer points.

[GuyYouMetOnline]

And stacking Gensokyo into layers is part of this process? And what about people and places dissapearing? What's that have to do with everything? Also, why are so many people only able to function as shikigami?

[Vilkni]

This is not a post about the story but...

It seems they added a stupid mechanism to the highest tier yukkuris to prevent them from being excessively farmed. Apparently the mechanism is 'time'-based, which means every 1 hours you are limited to 3 of the yukkuris. The problem? These go up to level 70, and give 30k exp each.

So I want somebody to test if you can cheat your timer up by 1 hour each and see if this works.

Pesco, is it even possible to put the timer by 1 hour ahead? And I mean the one that 'displays' when you save but is actually still running in background. This would be problematic considering the only way to see this is at the load screen/save to a different slot screen.

[Pesco]

If you can find exactly where this farming timer is displayed, I can get a lead on it. But I have my doubts on it though. In GoS I tried to hack the play time to speed up the 1 hour event and it didn't work. Can someone share me a high level save file so I can give it a try? Figuring out mapmaking in LoM has been way more fun than this game for me :/.

[Domino369]

Hmm, I ran into the Yukkuri's fairly often (though I wish it was more often than not). I could swear it was much much more often than 3 an hour though.

I'll try uploading my save on Thursday (working 14 hour shift tomorrow and am not going to feel like getting on my computer when I come home for 20 minutes x.x).

[homing curvy laser]

I'm sure it's something else (unless 1.07 just plain screwed up with the Yukkuri King encounter rate), because I've been looking for them for at least 1h30 of playtime and I haven't seen a single one. I also just found out metal and stray yukkuri are still as common as ever on longshot areas, so either those places run on a different system or there's no global yukkuri timer.
Wild guessing tells me it could also have to do with the gears in the final area, as the last time I ran into Yukkuri Kings was a long time ago when I hadn't beaten those bosses.

[EDIT] Wait, more science just popped up. I decided to kill some monsters there because well, there aren't many better places to grind, and I ran into four Yukkuri Kings, from around 55:10 hours of gameplay until around 55:40, with each encounter being around 10 minutes apart from each other. I killed things for about 40 more minutes after that, but no more of those things appeared.
taking it easy is too hard

[EDIT2] Even more science! Found another king at around 57:40, then 57:50 and 58:00, and then nothing in the twenty minutes after that. Two hours of cooldown after 3-4 yukkuri, 10 minutes apart from each other? Who knows.

[Battler]

Well, on 1.06 at least I can definitely confirm that Yukkuri Kings aren't on a timer of any kind.

Incidentally,

Pictured: a thing of beauty

Actually while I'm on shikigamis, where do you get Sakuya? I think she's the only Touhou character Shikigami I haven't found yet.

[homing curvy laser]

Actually while I'm on shikigamis, where do you get Sakuya? I think she's the only Touhou character Shikigami I haven't found yet.

Spoiler:

Get every playable character (or maybe just Remilia), then head to that suspicious place in the Garden of the Sun. It's somewhere to the east, if I'm not mistaken.

[theshirn]

So I got up to the entrance of the second tower, only to get smacked down hard.  My party's still around level 15, though.  I don't have any real way of dealing with the demon setting the land 2/3 of the way to Dark.   I did pick up Ran, so with her and Minoriko I can at least keep the land between 1 and 2 thirds, but I can't make any significant headway, and that requires two characters doing nothing but spamming the fairly weak single-target light spells.

On one try I even got Mokou's last word.  The boss responded by instakilling Mokou, Yuka, AND Nitori.  Good to know that instakills bypass Reraise! :colonveeplusalpha: