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Re: Yukari Quest, continued?!
« Reply #570 on: March 09, 2012, 04:32:29 AM »
>Don't think mentioning that last part is a good idea. Suwako was pretty clear on not giving up control; the moment Kanako opens her mouth about that, they're liable to start fighting again and both would get pissed at us for pretty much lying to them.
>Word it this way: "So far, she seems determined to keep fighting to the end. Whereas if you form a truce with her and you both share ownership, overtime she might accept you as a better leader and peaceably give you control."
>Sharing a shrine is an insult to a god? How desperate was she to be willing to do before then?
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Re: Yukari Quest, continued?!
« Reply #571 on: March 09, 2012, 04:40:43 AM »
>Word it this way: "So far, she seems determined to keep fighting to the end. Whereas if you form a truce with her and you both share ownership, overtime she might accept you as a better leader and peaceably give you control."
>Sharing a shrine is an insult to a god? How desperate was she to be willing to do before then?

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Re: Yukari Quest, continued?!
« Reply #572 on: March 09, 2012, 05:19:51 AM »
>"I did mention having corrected a previous distortion, did I not?"
>"And what would happen if you were to fix this distortion?"

>"Anyways, allow me to be a bit clearer as to what I'm saying will happen. Or should happen, at least; who knows what will happen if the change isn't fixed? If you help be correct the change, the first step would be a truce with Suwako. Not a surrender, just an agreement to stop fighting for now. As I've already said, this leads to you gaining control of the shrine. That's what I have to give in return for your assistance. If you help me, you will gain control of the shrine."
>Don't think mentioning that last part is a good idea. Suwako was pretty clear on not giving up control; the moment Kanako opens her mouth about that, they're liable to start fighting again and both would get pissed at us for pretty much lying to them.
>Word it this way: "So far, she seems determined to keep fighting to the end. Whereas if you form a truce with her and you both share ownership, overtime she might accept you as a better leader and peaceably give you control."
>Sharing a shrine is an insult to a god? How desperate was she to be willing to do before then?
>You think about how you could word the next few things you want to say.
>"Indeed. And that end draws near."
>"I do not think you understand. As she is right now, she is not fit to call herself a god. To place her personal desires above the greater good is an affront to all that we are. I refuse to work with such a person."
>You have no idea.

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Re: Yukari Quest, continued?!
« Reply #573 on: March 09, 2012, 05:37:01 AM »
> "If I fix the distortion, the future should repair itself. Suwako and you will resolve your conflict and your shrine will return to Gensokyo."
> "What do you consider to be the greater good? I may be misunderstanding your intentions, but what do you intend to do when you win?"


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Re: Yukari Quest, continued?!
« Reply #574 on: March 09, 2012, 06:00:19 AM »
> "If I fix the distortion, the future should repair itself. Suwako and you will resolve your conflict and your shrine will return to Gensokyo."
> "What do you consider to be the greater good? I may be misunderstanding your intentions, but what do you intend to do when you win?"
>"The future? You claim to have knowledge over the god's domain?"
>"You truly are an amusing being. Tell me, exactly how would this conflict be resolved and what is this Gensokyo."
>"The collective will of the gods. Once I have taken over this shrine, I will make the necessary changes and await its next host."

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« Reply #575 on: March 09, 2012, 06:41:40 AM »
>We never did tell her about the future.
>Here we go again.
>"I'm sure you recall that I ended up showing up from nowhere. Long story short, I crossed a dimensional gap within the Moriya lake in Gensokyo and ended up getting a front seat to the Suwa war."
>"Originally, Suwako gave up after half a day and let you take over. Soon after, human's loss of belief in the supernatural became problematic to the extent that you ended up working together with Suwako to pool your resources."
>"A few years ago - or more like a few centuries into the future for you - the both of you moved your shrine to Gensokyo, and after an incident or two, you all settled down."
>"As for Gensokyo, it's a haven for the supernatural, separated by a boundary to allow youkai to thrive and live amongst humans. Though I suppose will be would be more accurate considering the time."
>"Well it's either the past, or I'm in an alternate dimension under any event. That's not particularly important though~"
>"And Suwako already made sure that I'm neither insane or lying so we can skip that part~"

>Wonder how she's going to react?

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« Reply #576 on: March 09, 2012, 07:40:17 AM »
>"To add to that, that's how I knew about Suwako's descendant, Sanae, as well. You can ask her; she was surprised herself when she found someone else knew how her descendant was going to be called in the far future~"

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« Reply #577 on: March 09, 2012, 09:08:48 AM »
>We never did tell her about the future.
>Here we go again.
>"I'm sure you recall that I ended up showing up from nowhere. Long story short, I crossed a dimensional gap within the Moriya lake in Gensokyo and ended up getting a front seat to the Suwa war."
>"Originally, Suwako gave up after half a day and let you take over. Soon after, human's loss of belief in the supernatural became problematic to the extent that you ended up working together with Suwako to pool your resources."
>"A few years ago - or more like a few centuries into the future for you - the both of you moved your shrine to Gensokyo, and after an incident or two, you all settled down."
>"As for Gensokyo, it's a haven for the supernatural, separated by a boundary to allow youkai to thrive and live amongst humans. Though I suppose will be would be more accurate considering the time."
>"Well it's either the past, or I'm in an alternate dimension under any event. That's not particularly important though~"
>"And Suwako already made sure that I'm neither insane or lying so we can skip that part~"

>Wonder how she's going to react?
>That, you did not.
>You hope that Kanako will be more inclined to believe you than Suwako was.
>"So you claim to have you come from this 'Gensokyo'."
>"That is rather interesting. Go on."
>"So you say that I, along with this land's god are a part of this 'Gensokyo' in the future?"
>"So this 'Gensokyo' is a paradise of sorts for youkai? Tell me, how did this 'Gensokyo' come to be? For I know of no such thing."
>"If you are telling the truth, I believe that the distinction is for far more significance than something that is 'not particularly important'."
>She seems to be taking it rather well.

>"To add to that, that's how I knew about Suwako's descendant, Sanae, as well. You can ask her; she was surprised herself when she found someone else knew how her descendant was going to be called in the far future~"
>"Sanae? That name seems familiar to me. Interesting..."

>_

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« Reply #578 on: March 09, 2012, 09:37:11 AM »
>"If I'm back at the Suwa wars, then my past self would be busy creating Gensokyo right now. It won't be completed for quite some time yet."
>"Of course, if this an alternate dimensional rift, then odds are, you two fell into it as well and something wiped your memories. That would be...an interesting development."
>"But either way, once the source of the world's problem is fixed, it will likely become clear enough."
>"If Sanae sounds familiar, do the names Hakurei Reimu and Reiuji Utsuho ring any bells? Or perhaps an attempted nuclear revolution?"


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« Reply #579 on: March 09, 2012, 09:50:17 AM »
> "You are indeed a part of Gensokyo~ Or you will be. Gods are also welcome there."
> "If we can find the outside influence here, the bad wind you spoke of, I would know more of whether this is the past or another dimension. Altering time is difficult, so I believe it is a gap you are both trapped in until you move past this event."
> "Sanae is going to be your miko. I think you know her because of that, correct?"


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« Reply #580 on: March 09, 2012, 10:45:16 AM »
>"If I'm back at the Suwa wars, then my past self would be busy creating Gensokyo right now. It won't be completed for quite some time yet."
>"Of course, if this an alternate dimensional rift, then odds are, you two fell into it as well and something wiped your memories. That would be...an interesting development."
>"But either way, once the source of the world's problem is fixed, it will likely become clear enough."
>"If Sanae sounds familiar, do the names Hakurei Reimu and Reiuji Utsuho ring any bells? Or perhaps an attempted nuclear revolution?"
>"I believe that it is prudent to answer this type of question before the problem is fixed. The two scenarios are completely different and, as such, I imagine that the solution would vary according to the situation."
>"I am unfamiliar with any of those names or terms."

> "You are indeed a part of Gensokyo~ Or you will be. Gods are also welcome there."
> "If we can find the outside influence here, the bad wind you spoke of, I would know more of whether this is the past or another dimension. Altering time is difficult, so I believe it is a gap you are both trapped in until you move past this event."
> "Sanae is going to be your miko. I think you know her because of that, correct?"
>"Interesting."
>"That is an interesting theory."
>"Did you not say that she was the descendant of Moriya? And she is to be my maiden? Hah! That is rather amusing."
>"I am rather unsure on why I know of this name. It seems close to me, yet I have no recollection of having ever been contacted by this person."
>"So, if I am understanding correctly, you found us after having entered through a dimensional rift where both myself and the world have been altered. You wish to undo this and bring us back to your world, Gensokyo. You believe that ending this war would achieve this, and therefore require my cooperation. Correct?"

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« Reply #581 on: March 09, 2012, 12:16:38 PM »
> Curtsey for the goddess, she got it right in one go!
> "Correct~ If you know her name but can't recall why, it's more likely a memory you can't access."
> "I do believe that will fix things. Ending this endless day."


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« Reply #582 on: March 09, 2012, 12:28:23 PM »
> Curtsey for the goddess, she got it right in one go!
> "Correct~ If you know her name but can't recall why, it's more likely a memory you can't access."
> "I do believe that will fix things. Ending this endless day."
>You give Kanako a little curtsey. At least she seems willing to listen.
>"It is true that I have found something strange about this land. However, I have paid it no mind until now. Certainly, if what you are saying is correct, then that could explain this feeling."
>"I am also curious on what would happen if we were to fix this supposed distortion of yours."
>"However, your theory remains to be naught but a theory."
>"Still, you are an amusing being, and I have been deprived of entertainment for far too long."
>"Very well. Let us test this theory of yours. What assistance is it that you seek from the gods?"

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« Reply #583 on: March 09, 2012, 02:16:49 PM »
>"The problem is about the Reimu Hakurei I mentioned before. She is the one I cooperated with while creating Gensokyo, and a quite power shrine maiden herself. However, because of... unrelated circumstances, I had to leave Gensokyo for two years. In that time, she has taken over control of Gensokyo in a less than peaceful way, sealing all those who opposed her. I have managed to free some of the trapped ones, but because of this, my powers have been severely weakened."
>"And that is where I require your help. The reason why you disappeared from Gensokyo in the first place is probably this Reimu as well."

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« Reply #584 on: March 09, 2012, 02:23:56 PM »
> These problems don't relate to our current situation. We don't need to bother Kanako about Reimu until we've resolved the war and gotten us out of this rift.


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« Reply #585 on: March 09, 2012, 02:29:20 PM »
> "I think I know, but seeing is believing isn't it~?"
> "Though I have many.. talents, I'm not familiar with this area. Is there any monument that's out of place?"
> "If there isn't, then the problem is simply in the way this fight is being held. What are the terms you've been offering Suwako Moriya to surrender to? I ask only to compare with my own memories."


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« Reply #586 on: March 09, 2012, 02:58:58 PM »
How does this not relate to the current situation? She's literally asking us what why we even went to look for them in the first place...

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« Reply #587 on: March 09, 2012, 03:46:48 PM »
I'm with Shadoweh on this one; it seems like she's asking about our theory on ending their conflict breaking the loop. If they're our Kanako and Suwako, they'll remember when we fix things anyway. If they aren't, it doesn't matter.
>On that note, has it appeared as if time has been moving at all?
>Looking at things, Suwako seems far more attached to her shrine than before. We're going to need to talk to her again after this.

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« Reply #588 on: March 09, 2012, 04:16:50 PM »
Bringing up the Reimu issue right now would just confuse them. Reimu doesn't exist for another millenia. :V

> We definitely need to figure out what's stopping Suwako from joining Kanako. Maybe if we let her know how much stronger she is in our time..


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« Reply #589 on: March 09, 2012, 04:54:03 PM »
>Wait, is she stronger in our time? We saw the two of fighting for a bit, how strong are they compared to what we knew of them?

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« Reply #590 on: March 09, 2012, 10:51:10 PM »
>"The problem is about the Reimu Hakurei I mentioned before. She is the one I cooperated with while creating Gensokyo, and a quite power shrine maiden herself. However, because of... unrelated circumstances, I had to leave Gensokyo for two years. In that time, she has taken over control of Gensokyo in a less than peaceful way, sealing all those who opposed her. I have managed to free some of the trapped ones, but because of this, my powers have been severely weakened."
>"And that is where I require your help. The reason why you disappeared from Gensokyo in the first place is probably this Reimu as well."
> These problems don't relate to our current situation. We don't need to bother Kanako about Reimu until we've resolved the war and gotten us out of this rift.
>You decide against mentioning Reimu for the time being.

> "I think I know, but seeing is believing isn't it~?"
> "Though I have many.. talents, I'm not familiar with this area. Is there any monument that's out of place?"
> "If there isn't, then the problem is simply in the way this fight is being held. What are the terms you've been offering Suwako Moriya to surrender to? I ask only to compare with my own memories."
>"True faith is believing in those things that you cannot see. However, this is not a matter of faith, it is one of science."
>"Everything here is in accordance with what I know. There is no reason to believe that anything is out of place."
>"The conditions are simple. She is to surrender her shrine temporarily whilst a more suitable candidate is selected. If no such candidate is found, then ownership of the shrine is to be returned to her."

>On that note, has it appeared as if time has been moving at all?
>Looking at things, Suwako seems far more attached to her shrine than before. We're going to need to talk to her again after this.
> We definitely need to figure out what's stopping Suwako from joining Kanako. Maybe if we let her know how much stronger she is in our time..
>Time definitely appears to be moving.
>She definitely doesn't want to give up her shrine for some reason. You consider ways of finding out why.

>Wait, is she stronger in our time? We saw the two of fighting for a bit, how strong are they compared to what we knew of them?
>It is rather difficult to compare danmaku battles to the real thing. Especially when you did not manage to see much of their actual battle.

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Re: Yukari Quest, continued?!
« Reply #591 on: March 10, 2012, 01:36:03 AM »
>"The conditions are simple. She is to surrender her shrine temporarily whilst a more suitable candidate is selected. If no such candidate is found, then ownership of the shrine is to be returned to her."
> Does this sound like what's suposed to happen in our future?


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« Reply #592 on: March 10, 2012, 01:41:51 AM »
> Does this sound like what's suposed to happen in our future?
>It sounds about right.

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« Reply #593 on: March 10, 2012, 02:40:15 AM »
> Perhaps there's an outside element added?
> "Is there a suitable candidate available?"


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« Reply #594 on: March 10, 2012, 03:05:46 AM »
> Perhaps there's an outside element added?
> "Is there a suitable candidate available?"
>You wonder what might have changed.
>"Of that, I am uncertain."

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« Reply #595 on: March 10, 2012, 05:45:24 AM »
>"Then if events stay the same, there never will be another suitable candidate."
>"Of course, now the question is what changed to make her so attached to the shrine..."
>

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« Reply #596 on: March 10, 2012, 05:58:49 AM »
>"Then if events stay the same, there never will be another suitable candidate."
>"Of course, now the question is what changed to make her so attached to the shrine..."
>"Hmm? I see."
>"I have not the faintest idea."

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« Reply #597 on: March 10, 2012, 07:39:19 AM »
>Well, only one option left now.
>"Then it seems we'll have to ask her directly. Hopefully without the need for another fight."
>If Kanako agrees, back up to Suwako's shrine it is. With everything else we've done over the past two or three days, why not a mediator?

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« Reply #598 on: March 10, 2012, 10:16:50 AM »
> Before we leave, thank Kanako for hearing us and that we will return if we've made progress.


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« Reply #599 on: March 10, 2012, 10:25:07 AM »
>Well, only one option left now.
>"Then it seems we'll have to ask her directly. Hopefully without the need for another fight."
>If Kanako agrees, back up to Suwako's shrine it is. With everything else we've done over the past two or three days, why not a mediator?
>You suppose that you have to try talking with Suwako once more.
>"That certainly would be a desirable outcome."
>Not that you haven't mediated already within the past few days.

> Before we leave, thank Kanako for hearing us and that we will return if we've made progress.
>Before you take your leave, you make sure to thank Kanako for listening and even agreeing to help.
>And so you leave Kanako's camp and head towards the shrine once more.
>It isn't long before you find yourself standing in front of the Moriya shrine again.

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