Author Topic: On The Boundary ~ Legend of Illusionary Paradise [Discussion Thread] (Read 133028 times)

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #780 on:** February 10, 2012, 01:25:19 AM »

I understand how you could miss seeing this, but this is really another example of you trying to control too much, Sonae. It probably looks like the opposite, since you're allowing people to do missions unrelated to the main plot, but that's the problem. This isn't a video game, it's an RP. Having designated sidequests isn't really appropriate. If players want to go off from the main plot, they should just go off from the main plot. They can have things come up for their characters, or have something draw them away, or whatever. But that's not what you're doing. By making designated sidequests, you're saying that we can only go off from the main plot via them. If people want to do stuff off of the main plot, just let them do it. Don't limit them to given missions, even if they are allowed to suggest missions.

CrowCakes · « **Reply #781 on:** February 11, 2012, 03:09:03 AM »

Gonna drop this off here, just so that I can have a non-chibi depiction of Kisei.
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BTW, Hanzo, can I have a run-in with your character?

Sonae · « **Reply #782 on:** February 11, 2012, 02:27:07 PM »

Hey Crow did you draw that?

Anyways I might aswell address GYMO's post now.

Okay.
First of all, Not everyone will just head out and do shit without some kind of trigger. So far the only one that i know could head out to some random part of Gensokyo without any lead is Takuma. No one else seems like they'd take the initiative.
Second, I haven't heard a single one of you come to me and say 'Hey, I want so and so to go to Youkai Mountain at some point'. I know a few of you have asked me about some things, but No one has asked things like 'can I go here' or 'can I meet her'
Third. With Optional Missions set up, it forces me to plan out various things to keep players busy. I think you've already seen that some characters have almost nothing to do. This is a solution to that.
So how is that too controlling? Would you prefer I keep leaving those that don't get themselves involved out? Not everyone is able to force their character into things.
And who said that these missions would be the only plot deviation? It wasn't me. The actual plot doesn't kick in for a while and I've said many times. Discuss with me.
You've seemed to have completely miss my intentions.
Now if you'll excuse me, I've got an update to rewrite.

EDIT;;

YAYYYYYYYYYYYY
UPDATE IS DONEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY \o/

I guess it wouldn't hurt to give my so called marching orders now

Sora - Hasn't arrived yet
Sanaya - You should know what to do. No need for me to tell you.
Takuma - You should know aswell
Tetsumaru - Same as the above
Laresa - Look up
Kisei - ^
Kohaku - You're already at the feast. So idk. Greet people? idk. Whatever floats your boat.
Senri - Oh geez you better get going before you miss dat feast!
Nanaya - WAKE UP NANAYA
Hotaru -

I still don't know...
Amaya - You haven't arrived yet. So just relax for a bit.
Yumiko - WAKE UP YUMIKO!!!

Orphea you better post >: Else imma beat you with a soft object.
For Sanaya, Takuma, Tetsumaru, Laresa, and Kisei, you should either be there by now, or just arriving.
Trance, feel free to have Youko nag you two if you want. She's your character after all.

Posting update nao.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #783 on:** February 11, 2012, 05:21:24 PM »

Run-in? I was expecting that to happen at the party.
Anyhow, I'll get to working on my post soon.

CrowCakes · « **Reply #784 on:** February 12, 2012, 12:25:18 AM »

@Sonae: I drew it. Also can I ask you some things later?

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #785 on:** February 12, 2012, 12:29:46 AM »

Tch, can't bang out a post tonight, but I can get one out tomorrow.

I'm seeing the sidequests more as additional stuff to do between plot events, kinda like how they are elsewhere.
Keep in mind, they're in games like D&D too.

Oldmansour · « **Reply #786 on:** February 12, 2012, 12:37:07 AM »

If somebody wanted to stop Kisei from pilfering the shrine like a dirty parasite, that'd be great. I don't think I will, because Kohaku will do her best to take Kisei's head off. And that would probably be frowned upon.

trancehime · « **Reply #787 on:** February 12, 2012, 12:40:41 AM »

Whatever, I'm going to leave Nanaya sleeping in Senri's bed then.

I didn't post because I was waiting for Nanaya TO FUCKING WAKE UP.

But obviously that's not happening.

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #788 on:** February 12, 2012, 01:22:02 AM »

Quote from: Sonae on February 11, 2012, 02:27:07 PM

Okay.
First of all, Not everyone will just head out and do shit without some kind of trigger. So far the only one that i know could head out to some random part of Gensokyo without any lead is Takuma. No one else seems like they'd take the initiative.
Second, I haven't heard a single one of you come to me and say 'Hey, I want so and so to go to Youkai Mountain at some point'. I know a few of you have asked me about some things, but No one has asked things like 'can I go here' or 'can I meet her'
Third. With Optional Missions set up, it forces me to plan out various things to keep players busy. I think you've already seen that some characters have almost nothing to do. This is a solution to that.
So how is that too controlling? Would you prefer I keep leaving those that don't get themselves involved out? Not everyone is able to force their character into things.
And who said that these missions would be the only plot deviation? It wasn't me. The actual plot doesn't kick in for a while and I've said many times. Discuss with me.
You've seemed to have completely miss my intentions.

No, I completely understand your intentions. I just thought you were going about them inappropriately. The balance between freedom and structure is always tricky to get right in something like this, and it looked to me like you were leaning too much towards structure, although now it sounds like I may very well have been wrong.

I will say one thing, though: I recommend that you don't require players to clear absolutely everything with you. If someone wants to suddenly have something come up in their character's personal life, that really shouldn't have to be cleared with you. Only things that could affect the overall plot should have to be cleared with you, at least in my opinion. It's kind of hard to tell right now, of course, but once the main plot actually kicks in, it'll be easier. But whatever. It's your RP; I'm just giving advice based on my own experience with RPs, both running and participating in.

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #789 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:57:50 AM »

Quote from: 桜HIME on February 12, 2012, 12:40:41 AM

Whatever, I'm going to leave Nanaya sleeping in Senri's bed then.

I didn't post because I was waiting for Nanaya TO FUCKING WAKE UP.

But obviously that's not happening.

Where is your nagging at me in the IRC?

trancehime · « **Reply #790 on:** February 13, 2012, 03:31:26 PM »

I just left Nanaya there.

Seriously, :dwi: if you don't like it :V

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #791 on:** February 14, 2012, 01:41:13 AM »

Sour, I'd like to have Laresa approach your character to ask about Suika. Is that all right with you?

Sonae · « **Reply #792 on:** February 14, 2012, 02:18:17 AM »

Or you could, you know, just walk up to her and talk to her?
She is at the Feast after all.
Plus what would you ask Kohaku? She knows less of Suika than Laresa does. She'd be useless.

Still waiting on some people i think.

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #793 on:** February 14, 2012, 02:24:48 AM »

She may not know Suika's name, but she's seen Suika. When Laresa shows up asking about a girl with horns, well, I would imagine that Kohaku would recall the girl that showed up to stop Youmu from attacking her. Then Laresa's just going to ask where Suika is at the moment.

Amraphenson · « **Reply #794 on:** February 14, 2012, 02:26:43 AM »

Post up. Feel free to interact with Tetsumaru; a minor takeover for short dialogue is fine.

If possible, I'd like to get in a fight with someone. Heads up Hanzo.

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #795 on:** February 14, 2012, 07:28:51 AM »

TIME TO HULL AMRA OFF AS I WAKE UP. WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY.

...Or let Hanzo do something. ;_;

trancehime · « **Reply #796 on:** February 14, 2012, 07:53:31 AM »

Senri is busy at the moment trying to look like he's doing something interesting, expect he will either find you or you can go do something with him like talk or whatever.

I mean he's basically wearing a bridal furisode, so...

Sonae · « **Reply #797 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:48:34 AM »

Quote from: GuyYouMetOnline on February 14, 2012, 02:24:48 AM

She may not know Suika's name, but she's seen Suika. When Laresa shows up asking about a girl with horns, well, I would imagine that Kohaku would recall the girl that showed up to stop Youmu from attacking her. Then Laresa's just going to ask where Suika is at the moment.

-_-
So you're saying Laresa can't pick out a pair of large horns in a group of like 7 people.
Suika isn't hiding or anything. She's in plain sight. Drinking as always

/laughs at YJ for losing out on Senri.

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #798 on:** February 14, 2012, 01:54:04 PM »

Well, I actually wanted Laresa to meet Kohaku, and asking about Suika was a good excuse. But whatever.

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #799 on:** February 14, 2012, 02:48:38 PM »

Quote from: Sonae on February 14, 2012, 11:48:34 AM

/laughs at YJ for losing out on Senri.

Go laugh at Katelin or something. Anyway Trance gave me more time to draw by leaving Nanaya

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #800 on:** February 14, 2012, 02:58:00 PM »

A fight eh? I'll see what I can do, I gotta crank out this post having him arrive.
...I've had a lot on my plate lately, and I ain't dropping out.

Sonae · « **Reply #801 on:** February 15, 2012, 02:20:22 AM »

No immediate fights please. Atleast let the rest of the guests arrive. ~~and get drunk~~
GYMO why would you need an excuse to meet Kohaku?

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #802 on:** February 15, 2012, 02:47:43 AM »

I wouldn't; Laresa would.

Marokuu · « **Reply #803 on:** February 16, 2012, 04:59:17 PM »

So hey, randomly being sick kinda sucks doesn't it?

Writing has been a bit slow but I'll get Sanaya over there some time soon I guess.

Sonae · « **Reply #804 on:** February 17, 2012, 03:12:25 AM »

Still waiting on a few people.

Anyways You guys voluntarily abstaining from my brainstorming session? >:

Yog-N'yggoth · « **Reply #805 on:** February 17, 2012, 03:58:04 AM »

Oh sideplots

I guess well Hideaki could talk about various customers and their problems

only one i could figure is someone attempting to do things such as pranking fairies for revenge or fighting the gatekeeper of sdm etc

Sonae · « **Reply #806 on:** February 18, 2012, 12:38:29 AM »

/sighs

GYMO I'm starting to read your post now. First thing I've got to say. If I remember right, Laresa doesn't know by name who she's looking for.
Also if you went the route i figured you would...

Edit;;
Ah good you didn't. So I don't need to have Suika show her strength.
....ufufufu~
I know how to turn this around too~
Fun fun~

GuyYouMetOnline · « **Reply #807 on:** February 18, 2012, 03:15:48 AM »

SHe knows Suika's name from Aya's article, and thinks that the oni she's looking for is quite possibly her.

Sonae · « **Reply #808 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:25:33 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I'm still waiting on Sour and Marou

Still taking any ideas for Mission types.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #809 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:28:22 PM »

Maybe finding lost stuff? Like say, Nazrin misplaces her rods, and can't seem to find them.
Or for the more fan-typical thing, Shou loses the pagoda......Again.....For the fiftieth time this month.