Author Topic: Generic F11 Mafia - Game Over (Read 56287 times)

PX · « **Reply #210 on:** November 21, 2011, 10:26:03 PM »

Quote from: Tamamo no dorMae on November 21, 2011, 10:22:44 PM

Because you say, in #89, that Conq and Zak are null to you and require more posts, yet Dan who has less posts than either is townie to you.

That means I got more of a read from Dan's one post compared to Conq and Zak's posts

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #211 on:** November 21, 2011, 11:07:58 PM »

25 minutes remain in the day!
No change in vote count.

Serela · « **Reply #212 on:** November 21, 2011, 11:11:20 PM »

Okay I'm hom-holy shit 25 minutes

God damn I -really- don't want to lynch PX after catching up but it's better then no lynching.

PX · « **Reply #213 on:** November 21, 2011, 11:12:08 PM »

That's it? Nobody's talking? Well then I'm out of here.

##Unvote
##Vote: PX

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #214 on:** November 21, 2011, 11:15:54 PM »

Komeiji PX (5): MySTKing, J.O.B, Tamamo no dorMae, WHMZakeri, Komeiji PX (L-0)
WHMZakeri (3): Shadoweh, ActionDan, Serela
J.O.B (1): Schezo

Not Voting: None!

Komeiji PX, a Vanilla Townie, was lynched!

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #215 on:** November 22, 2011, 11:32:02 PM »

Schezo, a Vanilla Townie, was killed off overnight!

Day 2 has begun! You have until 3:30 PM on November 25th (PDT) to decide on a lynch.

The flavor of the day is vanilla!

Living players:
1. ActionDan
2. J.O.B
4. MySTKing (Conqueror)
6. Serela
7. Shadoweh
8. Tamamo no dorMae (Dormio)
9. WHMZakeri

Resting in peace:
3. Komeiji PX, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1
5. Schezo, Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 1

Removed from the game:
0. None right now, thankfully!

Serela · « **Reply #216 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:01:28 AM »

Well looking at the wagons, I don't see any reason why Zakeri shouldn't still be being voted, so I'll go ahead and do that now

##Vote Zakeri

Honestly I have no idea what he thinks about anyone alive other then Shadoweh (and people who are cleared as town because of his view of Shadoweh being scum). His last post is just him doing more don't like shadoweh and then picking PX over JOB because "PX is tunnelling and JOB is at least more useful then that", and really it's not that it's a bad post, it's just that it doesn't tell us who he actually thinks is scummy at ALL other then Shadoweh (Same with his other two posts too!). He evaluated PX and JOB over how useful they are and not whether or not they actually seem scummy, and to me it sort of felt like he already knew they were both town in the first place but I'm not going to try and pursue that feeling as a point in my case here

anyway so I think Dan and Dormio are both town, probably should reread job/shadoweh/conq later

Serela · « **Reply #217 on:** November 23, 2011, 12:03:36 AM »

honestly though before any sort of reread I'm still inclined to think JOB isn't scum, and thinking shadoweh would be scum is hurt a lot by the fact that I really think Zak is scum (I don't see them as partners here at all nope), so that would leave Conq as scum #2 and my gut said he was weird anyway so that totally matches up

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #218 on:** November 23, 2011, 03:07:45 AM »

If you want a list of all of my reads, they're as follows

Scum: Shadoweh
Null: NeoSerela
Town: Conqueror, Dan, JOB, and Dormio.

Dan and Conq are weaker reads, but that's the direction they've solidified so far.

##Vote: Shadoweh
This is just a placeholder until I get the time and energy to reread the game.
The PX lynch feels useless in terms of gathering info. At least my lynch would have resolved something that everyone hadn't already guessed was true, anyway.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #219 on:** November 23, 2011, 03:40:42 AM »

Haha, it's funny because you still think I'm lynchable.

If people had already guessed PX was town they wouldn't have voted for him.
I like the word 'guess', as if all reads are drawn from russian roulette.
So, you lynched someone I thought was town, and scum nightkilled someone I knew was town. I have gained almost nothing. Well fuck you very much scum team. -.- This goes for the townies too that though lynching PX was a good idea. You should read back and feel ashamed of yourselves.

Zak, in the words of our wonderful moderator, instead of chasing after outliers we should be focusing on the scummy people on the scummy ass town wagon. Here's my list of color coded reads from the votecount.

Quote

Komeiji PX (5): MySTKing, J.O.B, Tamamo no dorMae, WHMZakeri, Komeiji PX (L-0)
WHMZakeri (3): [b]Shadoweh[/b], ActionDan, Serela
J.O.B (1): Schezo

Not Voting: None!

Komeiji PX, a Vanilla Townie no shit really?!, was lynched!

Now I'm going to go take off my coat and write some hatemail to the scum hydra.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #220 on:** November 23, 2011, 05:09:52 AM »

You may note a slight change in color on Dan. First of all, I feel like his argument with Schezo has something to do with why Schezo disappeared, but that's not what's been nagging at me. Where is it..
God damnit I can't find it a specific quote. I just get this weird nagging feeling that he's attacking others for going after people he knows are town and therefore knows they will look bad after the flip. That's how I felt about his accusations at me while on Zakeri. And yes Dan, Schezo was being quiet, but Schezo had more posts in the first 24 hours then you made all game so the why me and not him doesn't make me feel better.

Searching for things takes so looong, looking at Conqueror next.

J.O.B · « **Reply #221 on:** November 23, 2011, 05:26:29 AM »

Sup guys.

I got caught up with those arguments with Schezo and PX that I didn't really have any time to read other people much (except maybe Shadoweh). So like 5 seconds ago I did a very quick reread of Shadoweh and Zakeri (planning to do more later).

I'm starting to think Shadoweh is town now. It was probably just her early posts that threw me off. Though she's normally like that. I should get used to it more. I don't really have much of a problem with her now, though I would like her to explain those things that I quoted (unless you already did, in that case, just link me to where you explained it).

Zak I'm still not too sure on. I don't exactly know what the case is on him. If somebody could summarize it or something then I would appreciate it. I think his actions have been a bit suspicious, but I just can't put my finger on why it is. Also Zak could you summarize your Shadoweh case too? It would be nice to have the whole case in one post instead of spread out between all of them.

I don't wanna vote till I have finished my (kinda quick) rereads.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #222 on:** November 23, 2011, 05:32:07 AM »

I have forgotten anything you asked me earlier. The fact that the two dead people are probably screaming your name right now is what currently sets my eye askance on you.

J.O.B · « **Reply #223 on:** November 23, 2011, 05:38:34 AM »

Just did Serela.

Serela needs to say a lot more. As Shadoweh has pointed out, Serela basically just said "Hello game, brb tomorrow." He hasn't really said that much on people other than Zakeri, and didn't provide anything of use in his near deadline post. Also his summarized case on Zakeri is pretty much based on one of Zakeri's posts. He isn't really taking into account Zakeri's other posts. The only way he actually is is by mentioning he can't see who else Zakeri thinks is scum other than Shadoweh (because Zak's Shadoweh case is spread across basically all of his posts).

tl;dr Serela needs to say more stuff, and talk about more people.

Cut by Shadoweh. Just look near the end of the day, after you asked why I was still suspicious of you.

Shadoweh · « **Reply #224 on:** November 23, 2011, 05:55:35 AM »

I don't.. see any questions.. besides you asking me again whether I would lynch PX over you. The same quote from before applies. At this point you're also asking me if I would have lynched someone who flipped town over you who is still unknown, so I can't give an unbiased answer. Seriously though, still you. PX was doing good and you derps lynched him for it.

Taking off my red-colored goggles, I come to realize I actually like Zakeri's posts. You have a point about not repeating something that didn't work the first time. I have to ask you in all honesty considering you thought PX and JOB were both town, and considering what you've said about JOB in the past, what the hell were you thinking lynching townPX over townJOB?
HEY ZAK AM I OBVTOWN YET?

J.O.B · « **Reply #225 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:01:36 AM »

Did Dormio and Dan.

Dormio I find townie. That's all I have to say.

Dan also seems a bit off to me. I agree with Shadoweh (stop being so agreeable :V) that Dan has been jumping around a bit, though, I would guess that would be because he isn't around too much, so he tries to catch up with one big post. He said at one point that he would try and reread PX, he also mentioned that that would include rereading me. He presented a read of PX (though, rather smallish) in his next post, but the only mention of me he had in his later posts was that he was not willing to lynch me. Dan, where do you stand on my alignment? Do you think I'm town, scum, or neutral.

Also I just remembered, Shadoweh, there aren't any third parties in this game AFAIK.

Cu by Shadoweh (again). Lol are you sure you don't see it. Take one more look and if you can't find it I'll try and get the post numbers. Also about lynching PX over me. In my opinion, PX was the better lynch because he was only tunneling on me. If I wasn't lynched he would have most likely continued with tunneling on me (in my opinion, I don't know what he would have actually done). I am at least trying to look for scum in more than one person (moreso now than yesterday, because I got caught up with Schezo and PX), even if I am not doing it so well.

J.O.B · « **Reply #226 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:09:17 AM »

Oh and just so you know Shadoweh, I'm willing to give the numbers if you can't find them.

Just read Conq.

I don't exactly know what you guys find wrong with Conq. AFAIK you guys don't like him because he said a few off comments (correct me if I'm wrong). The only thing he did that I don't really like was that he basically spent the whole day defending me.

J.O.B · « **Reply #227 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:14:28 AM »

I don't really know who to vote. I'm currently suspicious of Dan (kinda) until you guys can provide the cases on why you think some of the people I mentioned (Zak and Conq) are scum/potential scum.

For now.
##Vote:Dan

Shadoweh · « **Reply #228 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:20:58 AM »

If we'd lynched you I doubt PX would have continued tunneling on you.
I really don't see it. And I'm aware despite Zak's meta there are no third parties in this game.

Rereading Dormio will take some time, but cursory says I still agree with myself. I will take on the head troll demon tomorrow after work. I simply don't have time right now to post my thoughts. Suffice it to say Conqueror is scum for making a troll wagon on PX and guiding him into the ground so let's lynch him.

J.O.B · « **Reply #229 on:** November 23, 2011, 06:27:51 AM »

Okay then, the post numbers are: #159, #164, #166 and #167. I would like you to clarify what you meant by these reasons, as they feel a bit off to me.

And I'm pretty sure I wasn't a big lynch target near deadine. If PX hadn't been lynched it would most likely have been Zak.
And what you said about Conq I disagree with. How exactly is it a troll wagon? I didn't apprear to be one to me. Though I might be a bit biased because I wanted PX lynched too.

Conqueror · « **Reply #230 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:07:30 AM »

Shadoweh: I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say. If I'm not going to get my scum reads lynched I might as well not play mafia. Suddenly you're acting all righteous since you "got" PX's alignment right before the flip and you "knew" Schezo was town. Alright, you get credit for being right, but I don't like the attitude that now PX was obvtown and "doing good" and his wagon was built to troll him. If that's what you really think well then fuck you. Are you scum, Shadoweh?

Quote from: Shadoweh on November 23, 2011, 05:55:35 AM

I have to ask you in all honesty considering you thought PX and JOB were both town, and considering what you've said about JOB in the past, what the hell were you thinking lynching townPX over townJOB?

This question is a trap.

Anyway, I'm really disliking Serela. Giving a neutral stance on PX for most of the day before suddenly coming out strongly against his lynch when his lynch is pretty much sealed seems like an easy way to get undeserved town cred. His posts really give me a "setting up lynches" feeling. If Zak is not scum then Shadoweh is scum right and Conq is weird yeah because gut I'd be up for lynching him anytime too.

Quote from: Serela on November 23, 2011, 12:01:28 AM

Well looking at the wagons, I don't see any reason why Zakeri shouldn't still be being voted, so I'll go ahead and do that now

What do the wagons tell you, Serela?

##Vote: Serela

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #231 on:** November 23, 2011, 11:36:19 AM »

So I've bene out for the whole day an I' am in nos hape to read thi.s
i"m probtably going to go to sleep to seoon but I will be back tomroorow.

Serela · « **Reply #232 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:32:49 PM »

okay I just woke up, I'll answer some questions before I do waking-up things like using the bathroom and having breakfast

Quote from: JOB

Also his summarized case on Zakeri is pretty much based on one of Zakeri's posts. He isn't really taking into account Zakeri's other posts.

Nope because as I said in my case, what I accused his last post of being, all his posts were. And that is "SHADOWEH IS SCUM here are people who are town because SHADOWEH IS SCUM here's some waffles on px, more shadoweh etc, well I'll pick everybodyhatesPX over JOB because PX is " less useful" (not actually for any scumminess rating and IMO sounds like he knows they're already town although that IMO part is an eh thing) so yeah as I said he's basically only said stuff about Shadoweh and so far that pretty much still holds

Quote

talk about more people.

this is a legitimate point but well everyone else is not-scum to me at this point in time which makes them uninteresting (except Conq who I'll say something about at some point today, and by Today I mean nov 23 not D2)

Quote from: Conq

Giving a neutral stance on PX for most of the day before suddenly coming out strongly against his lynch when his lynch is pretty much sealed seems like an easy way to get undeserved town cred.

sorry for not being here is about all I can say to this, so that's pretty much my fault (considering I -forgot I was in a mafia game- for like 30ish hours), so oops on my end and this pretty much becomes a legitimate point

Serela · « **Reply #233 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:36:24 PM »

Oh and I forgot to answer the wagons question.

Well I mean it's nothing complicated. Basically Zak jumps on townPX at the end of the day and everyone who's on Zak I think is town and well the only other wagon that existed everyone on it already flipped town so it's uninteresting (because atm I think it was ON town so)

I mean it's nothing really worth using as a reason to say that Zak is scum, but it fits it. I didn't bother elaborating because it didn't really matter at all; it's pretty uninteresting and unimportant stuff.

J.O.B · « **Reply #234 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:43:06 PM »

I see then.
Also I find it funny how you say today (as in Nov 23rd) considering here it's about 40 minutes into the 24th :V

Serela · « **Reply #235 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:47:19 PM »

AUGH TIMEZONES D:

it's like 8:44 am nov 23rd here

J.O.B · « **Reply #236 on:** November 23, 2011, 01:52:35 PM »

:justasplanned:

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #237 on:** November 23, 2011, 08:52:49 PM »

You guys all suck.

Anyway, ##Vote Zakeri.

First of all, words in #160.

#188 is him continuing to tunnel on Shadoweh. I like how Zakeri talks about how we need to read more people, yet he's only really been posting about Shadoweh. :V

#218, Can you explain what makes Dan and Conq weaker reads to you? Also dislike Zakeri suggesting his own lynch in both this post and #188. Like he tries to say it with disappointment in #218. And I dunno, I really don't like it. It kind of seems like subtle AtE to me.

Anyway, words that aren't about Zakeri should be incoming whenever my brain starts working again.

J.O.B · « **Reply #238 on:** November 23, 2011, 09:56:12 PM »

I'm posting to mention that I will have limited access for the next 2 days. So I might not be on at all during this time.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #239 on:** November 24, 2011, 12:18:24 AM »

I have to agree with Conq's #230 about Serela.

Shadoweh is still leaning townish to me, but I feel that I'll have to reread her once more.

I'm not entirely sure about how I feel about Dan. Will reread.

Conq seems townie to me ~~which means that he must obviously be scum~~.

JOB is JOB.

Zakeri, I've mentioned above.

I am thou and thou art I.

Will post again later.