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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #570 on: December 24, 2011, 04:10:19 PM »
What like legs? I'm pretty sure Yamame has legs...

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #571 on: December 24, 2011, 07:50:02 PM »
I mean, Patchy has her own Osu! skin, so my vote is definitely not changing.

You could even say it's unmoving.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #572 on: December 25, 2011, 01:58:33 PM »
Well the match is almost done, Patchouli's pretty much going to proceed to the next round.

Today we have a day off for Christmas. Next match will proceed on the 26th.
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« Reply #573 on: December 26, 2011, 01:45:42 AM »
Acidus tells me that tits and ass don't count as a moe features.

Sry guys.

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« Reply #574 on: December 26, 2011, 03:02:17 PM »
Okay... This round was relatively easy to choose:  Chen!
I don't think you can compare Youmu to Chen...
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #575 on: December 26, 2011, 03:10:31 PM »
This should be interesting; I really can't say who's going to win this time. I'm voting for Youmu myself.

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« Reply #576 on: December 26, 2011, 04:29:01 PM »
Gotta vote for Youmu again. She really earns it.
Acidus tells me that tits and ass don't count as a moe features.

Sry guys.
I won't let it count against a character, but at the same time, I've been in a relationship with a girl who loved her tits more than she did me, so I can't bring myself to allow such assets to count in a character's favor, either.
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #577 on: December 26, 2011, 08:12:09 PM »
Well we're back! Time to begin the next round so:

Chen vs. Youmu

Chen

Pros: Cat Girl, member of the Yakumo family, youthful and high spirited

Cons: Hasn't appear in much material except 1 game and a few comics.(Canon wise), being so hyper can be very frustrated (at least it was for me)

Youmu

Pros: Loyal, Devoted, Young, skilled sword fighter, serious determination, yet can still be childish, afraid of ghosts (?!), appeared in a large numbers of games through the Touhou series as well as comics, Major character potential, half ghost, ghost half has potential to be considered a moe trait to Youmu (fanon and Canon)

Cons: Probably her fear of ghost may turn off some who expected Youmu to be fearless. Constrasting behavior between her serious side and her childish side might turn off some. (?)

Advantage: Youmu

Last fight battle that Chen had threw me off guard because I didn't' see Chen making it past round 1. Yet somehow she managed to beat Reimu Hakurei. Then I remembered that most of the western fokes don't see Reimu all that moe because of her rather ignorant and selfish personality (personally I consider it a trademark for her). This part of the fan base always puzzled me. So when Chen won against Reimu, I was kinda upset and shocked. But now it's time to see how she can stand up to someone who's been gaining many moe traits over the last year!

When it comes down to it, Chen only has her cat girl looks going for her along with her cuteness factor. Basic traits that seem to be playing a key role among the cat girls. But really that can only go so far to my view. Even as a member of the Yakumo household, it doesn't change much. I can't see Chen making much headway this round since her character is kinda well "limited"

Youmu on the other hand has a tremendous amount of potential! She has more to her than you may expect. On the basics, she appears and a serious minded girl with devoted loyalty to the princess of the dead,  and a nasty sword skills to boot. But over the years as Youmu returned on way or another, Youmu has shown to have more special things about her than we first thought. She has a more cute, childish side  under that sword fighting exterior, she still is shown to be still inexperienced despite being rather good at fighting. Her ghost half has lead to much potential for both fanon material and some canon stuff which boosted Youmu's moe. And above all else in SOP, we learn about Youmu's discomfort around ghosts a rather odd yet surprisingly moe trait.

Really this girl has continue to developed so much fanon and canon wise that I wouldn't be surprised if she makes it to semi-finals at this rate! Youmu's been full of promise since day one, but I would of never expected her to become so....moe~

I cannot see chen even getting close to winning this match. It would shock me if she did.

So yeah, Youmu gets my vote.
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« Reply #578 on: December 27, 2011, 05:05:30 AM »
With Youmu having this one in the bag, I can again only hope that Ellen should be able to beat out Mystia of all characters. Like yeah, if Ellen were against a more relevant character she might have some competition but I will be very disappointed if Misty takes this next round,
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« Reply #579 on: December 27, 2011, 03:05:15 PM »
Tough choice... I gave my vote for Ellen...
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« Reply #580 on: December 27, 2011, 03:09:20 PM »
AND A FINE CHOICE INDEED.

I mean, how can you say no to this?
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« Reply #581 on: December 27, 2011, 03:11:52 PM »
Chen took more of a beating than I expected, though I probably should have realized Youmu couldn't lose.
For this round I'm voting Mystia for two main reasons:
1. Mystia is a Touhou character.
2. For some reason, (possibly becuase she's been trolling me in my recent PoDD runs), I'm really not very fond of Ellen.

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« Reply #582 on: December 27, 2011, 04:39:08 PM »
Time for my analysis on round 40!

Mystia vs. Ellen

Mystia

Pros: Night Sparrow, singer, unique spellcards, shown to be extremely carefree and not very bright, skilled cook, romantic relations (extremely Fanon)

Cons: Her carefree and illiterate behavior is a possible turn off, romantic relations may turn off some (based on the report of a certain bird lover), being subject to being labeled as food (again, a certain bird lover would call on this)

Ellen

Pros: Witch, slight hairheaded-ness, being based of a witch with the same name that comes from a manga, looks notably identical to said charter, owns a cat

Cons: Not appering in many games, being based on a certain charter may make her less interesting.

Advantage: This could be anyone's game here! But I think Mystia has the edge in this

This is indeed what could be labeled as an odd match.

One on side you have a night sparrow who is notable for her charter and some what silly antics that involve grilled lamprey, and on the other side we have the ONLY PC-98 charter still surviving who is more or less based off of a witch from a manga that has the same name.

Both have very interesting appeals and weaknesses that put them on the spot and at this point.... well I know I'd be shocked if Ellen wins, but she just may have a shot at it here. Assuming the moe features of both really play a key role here.

Mystia main strong points are of course her back story and personality behavior that she has been involved in. Which of course includes her lamprey stand. But of course I know certain people would find her very appealing too (think of a certain person who's name is based on a "Shape" and his obsession on mystia), but like I said there are many weak-points to her too that can be a turn off too (also pointed out by the same guy)

Ellen while kind of a bland character, has plenty of moe traits despite this factor, all because of who's she's based off of. But at the same time she only appeared once, and as mentioned is also based off of a witch by the same name in a manga so technically she's more of a shout out to the manga more than anything else.

The last statement about who's she's based off of is the only reason that made me switch my vote away from her. and also the main reason I see Mystia having the advantage here despite having a near equal stand on things.

Course if Ellen wins this match... then I will probably mark her a potential "Esemble Darkhorse" (sadly there are no Launchpad McQuacks to pull an outrageous upset with since they all lack maximum trolling potential)

So yeah,, I'm voting for Mystia here. Cause I think she had the edge.

We'll see how Ellen does. :P
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #583 on: December 27, 2011, 07:07:12 PM »
I'm not sure I would describe Mystia as idiotic, considering she did come up with that lamprey con.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #584 on: December 27, 2011, 07:21:33 PM »
I'm not sure I would describe Mystia as idiotic, considering she did come up with that lamprey con.

Idiotic may have been a bit strong of a word when I think about it.... Illiterate would of been better though. Because it's been confirmed that she can't read a newspaper if my memory serves correctly.
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« Reply #585 on: December 27, 2011, 07:44:45 PM »
Come on Fluffyhead, don't lose to food!

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« Reply #586 on: December 27, 2011, 09:15:45 PM »
Idiotic may have been a bit strong of a word when I think about it.... Illiterate would of been better though. Because it's been confirmed that she can't read a newspaper if my memory serves correctly.
Not anymore, as of Oriental Sacred Place, she is now literate. She probably took some classes at Youkai School.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/touhou_sangetsusei_oriental_sacred_place/v02/c013/20.html

Good thing Youmu won though, I missed the voting yesterday...

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« Reply #587 on: December 27, 2011, 10:53:05 PM »
Mystia had earned my vote for this round years ago. Night Sparrow Love didn't make that decision any more difficult. (Danbooru)

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #588 on: December 28, 2011, 03:21:22 AM »
Not anymore, as of Oriental Sacred Place, she is now literate. She probably took some classes at Youkai School.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/touhou_sangetsusei_oriental_sacred_place/v02/c013/20.html

Good thing Youmu won though, I missed the voting yesterday...

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #589 on: December 28, 2011, 01:10:28 PM »
That's kind of unfortunate. Guess Ellen is just not popular enough to compete with a Windows character. Now if Hataraki Mono could be read somewhere...

That said, I'm hyped for the following round for obvious reasons. In my humble opinion, the beautiful miko, hardworking for the good of humankind, energetic, cheerful, ideailist (much like PC-98 Raymoo), and with outer world knowledge, motherly relationship with 2 goddesses, fondness towards mecha, green hair, schoolgirl uniform and with great-looking cleavage and armpits as a bonus, deserves to be rewarded in a contest of cuteness.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #590 on: December 28, 2011, 01:48:18 PM »
Oh boy we get to between two Little Miss Keel Dem Allus.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #591 on: December 28, 2011, 02:21:17 PM »
Here's a match that I labeled as one of the "Big" matches. I wanted to actually illustrate Sanae and Utusho, but I don't really have time, but that's besides the point. Let's cut to the chase....

Faith vs. Hell

Sanae Kochiya vs. Utusho Reiuji

Sanae Kochiya

Pros: Is a direct contrast to Reimu in almost every possible way, As in dedicated, devoted, hardworking, cheerful, friendly personality, originally from the outside world, expresses knowledge from the outside world, nice attractive body (including a decent chest size in contrast to Reimu's flatness) and also has strong faith in her gods. Big anime Otaku fan, (especially in mecha), sic-fi fan, nice color scheme, shrine maiden, formally a school girl, not held back to open up to new ideas leading to her character have infinite possibilities both in her character and personality. Amazing major character potential

Cons: potential psychotic side (as seen in route B of UFO), bully to Kogasa (as seen in some fan art), some fanon portrayal tend to take advantage of Sanae's looks to attempt to take her down a peg so she doesn't seem all that perfect (AKA slut)

Utsuho Reiuji

Pros: Hell raven with the power of the sun, long black hair, large wings, destructive power, awesome spell cards (WARNING! WARNING!) quite furious when she wants to be, large cape with the galaxy designed within the inside, unique design in term of how she represents Yataguratsu (cement foot, atoms and arm cannon), having a cute,idiot, bird brained personality underneath that destructive power, "Unyuu~!", color scheme that makes her stand out with her design,great body (at least in fanon works).

Cons: some may find her destructive personality a bit much, same goes for her bird-brained side, some may find her design a bit over done (I know cause a friend found her unappealing for that reason alone).

Advantage: None, They're both even!

This is going to be one of those very big battles I've been waiting for.

On one side, we have a shrine maiden, who since her appearance has grown in popularity in the fan base, and has become a rather strong character in the Touhou Universe. As because of her she now gives Reimu serious competition because of her approach to everything, her looks, her behavior, her personality, everything about Sanae completely contrasts Reimu. Where Reimu is from Gensokyo, Sanae is from the outside world, where Reimu is mainly flat, Sanae is busty, where Reimu is laid back, and doesn't care much, Sanae is devoted and willing to help and try new things, where Reimu lacks a god in her shrine (since the PC-98 days), Sanae has 2 gods. Really I could keep going on about this for a while. But long story short: Sanae is pretty much the Luigi as Reimu is the Mario. Same can even apply to their color scheme.

Also Sanae also has many strong points that connect to the fan base as well. She obviously has develop from what was once a devoted girl to becoming a girl who comes to now be held by logic (and make silly names for spell cards) then later we get to learn about her Otaku geeky side. Really, this has gone places few character in the Touhou universe go. She's practically the living embodiment of an Otaku boy's fantasy manifested into a game.

The only thing Sanae has that may even make things hard for her here mainly derive from UFO and her memetic fan base. Which center around her becoming an aggressive youkai bully, and being portrayed as a slut (thanks to the western fan base) But those are even sometime turned into an advantage even for her. So who knows?

On the other side we have Utusho the hell raven, known to be the only Touhou character who actually came close to having a villainous personality when she first appeared, but was very notable for her amazing design, her character, and her amazing portrayal of spell cards.

Utusho mainly has a strong edge in this competion mainly for her looks and personality along with how she was captured in SA. Her spell cards through SA were probably considered mesmerizing and awe-inspiring, starting with the warning signs and the alarms that would ring out before she would start hurdling gigantic suns at you.  Follow that up with her great design which consisted of her being dressed in a white blouse, a green skirt, large black wings, long black hair, a giant cape with the universe printed on the inside (that's alive according to Hisouten), cement leg and atoms on the other, an arm cannon and later on a great body from how fanon captured her design.

Then to top it off we even learn that despite her villainous and destructive personality she has in SA, that deep down she's actually rather simple minded to some degree which added a cuteness appeal unlike anything that had been seen before. And had a catch phrase that totally made her moe appeal concrete....

"Unyuu~?"

That's all it took!

Really there's alot going on for an SA character here who's only appeared a few times, but yet Utusho is one of the few characters that shown great promise in the Touhou universe.

The only thing Utusho has that might bring her down here in practically some of the same things that make her good, her destructive yet idiotic personality, and her design, some have claimed it may have been over done, but all subjective for debate.

So in truth, from what I seen, this contest is dead even.

It's going to ride on taste preferences, in character, personality and design that'll be the deciding factor on who'll win here.

As for me I'll give my answer on my vote:

Sanae, why?

Sanae is one of the few Touhou characters that has so much potential growing for her. As I said before, she's one the few characters that indeed grows as time goes on and it shows quite well. She has developed into a character that actually give Reimu something she never really faced before: Competition! And being that how contrast Reimu in every way almost make her really stand out in her character. And with each story she appeared in we learn more about her and her adaption to Gensokyo, at this point, she's pretty much now part of the major Gensokyo crew. And being able to accelerate all the way to 2nd place in the Touhou Saimoe competion in just the 3 years she's been in existence proves that she's gone far. She practically rivals even most of the major characters in Touhou with her development and I expect Sanae to continue doing this through the future of Touhou if ZUN continues with the route he goes....

Utusho on the other hand while she can definitely develop some more from her current stance, it's sort of limited, most of her character is set into stone already so there's really only so much I can see going on for her through the future compared to Sanae. Sanae is an open book with pages waiting to be written, and only in due time will we know just how much more we'll get to know of Sanae.

So yeah Sanae get's my vote due to her limitless moe potential that we know past, present and the possible future.
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« Reply #592 on: December 28, 2011, 03:34:19 PM »
I'm pretty sure Sanae's as flat as everyone else, and her bustiness is pure fanon.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #593 on: December 28, 2011, 03:38:51 PM »
I'm pretty sure Sanae's as flat as everyone else, and her bustiness is pure fanon.

Then I recommend looking at Sanae's portraits from UFO and 10D carefully they show she's got some degree of chest to her. Alphes too (semi-canon)

Course yeah most fans give Sanae a rather busty bust line. But that's expected, but it's also clear that ZUN gave her some chest too (just not over the top)
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #594 on: December 28, 2011, 03:46:00 PM »
I'm picking Sanae; her character has lots of hidden depths, and she's cute.
But I'm gonna guess Okuu will win by a hair (because how can you beat a nuclear-powered birdbrain?).
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« Reply #595 on: December 28, 2011, 04:03:28 PM »
Well busty or not, Sanae's got my vote. She's just more moe in general when compared to Okuu. Personally I'd be kinda surprised if Okuu won, but mayhap it will be close.

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« Reply #596 on: December 28, 2011, 04:12:04 PM »
Honestly, I'm just hoping for a barn burner or two in the next week, because 85 votes for a round isn't that impressive. I realize that one was for two less popular characters, but c'mon folks. Today and New Year's Day should be fun, though.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #597 on: December 28, 2011, 04:20:27 PM »
I'm picking Sanae; her character has lots of hidden depths, and she's cute.
But I'm gonna guess Okuu will win by a hair (because how can you beat a nuclear-powered birdbrain?).

Having longer hair does not automatically make you more moe.

That said, Sanae is unyu deficient.

Here is your daily serving of unyu.

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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #598 on: December 28, 2011, 05:10:35 PM »
Wait, you mean Okuu's winning because of a verbal tic? :derp:
Kind of disheartening (click).
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Re: It's here! Touhou Seimoe 2011!
« Reply #599 on: December 28, 2011, 05:20:00 PM »
Let's see... I like both characters a lot, but I'm giving the edge to Sanae for being the anti-Reimu, who I dislike a lot.