Author Topic: Psycho Prophecy (Game Over Town Win) (Read 92224 times)

Kiva-la · « **Reply #600 on:** October 29, 2011, 11:49:15 PM »

I know that could probably happen but if people really want them both dead then that is probably the best course of action.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #601 on:** October 29, 2011, 11:52:49 PM »

Merryweather, what would you think of Bardiche if Barney flipped town?

W · « **Reply #602 on:** October 29, 2011, 11:52:54 PM »

I mean that:
Wagon appears on Alpha:
"I think Alpha is the scummiest for obvious reasons."
Wagon disappears and runs onto Bardiche:
"I want Bardiche dead the most."
Current wagons are Barney and Bardiche:
"I would like to lynch Barney and kill Bardiche."
And I know your memory is short but remembering the beginning of the day isn't hard. The prevaling opinion when asking about who Alpha should vig was to lynch Barney and kill Bardiche.

Be more specific. How is Bardiche being 'scummy as hell'? What is Bardiche doing that seems scummy to you, and how does it further the scum agenda? I believe many would argue you could be scum, and if you were town we really didn't need you anyways. These reasons are not sufficient for Duffman.
-Why- do you agree with Saki that Alpha's shot was not third party intended? Keep in mind that if Alpha was third party, and Duff Beer's lie detector came through, he would be confirmed scum, and there would be no talk at all of keeping him like we are right now.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #603 on:** October 30, 2011, 12:01:14 AM »

Bardiche hasn't been saying much at all, he isn't defending himself well against the cases made against him, he self-voted (out of rage, but it's still scummy). That's just a couple of reasons. It furthers the scum agenda because not saying much is basically what scum want. And if he's scum, then he is pretty much a sacrifice because I don't think any scum wants to help him now, it's basically suicide to do so.
Just look at what Saki said about Alpha, they make sense right? I think they do, which is why I don't think Alpha had good or bad intentions when making that vig choice. The only thing that makes a slight amount of sense is either Third-Party or silly town, But I'm leaning towards the latter.

W · « **Reply #604 on:** October 30, 2011, 12:08:40 AM »

To make things clear, I'm in support of a Barney lynch right now, and not supportive of Bardiche's lynch. Duffman feels like that lynch would be tasteless and leave him hungry during the night. Even if Barney is town. I don't want to wait the full extension to hammer someone down, since that would be like 6 in the morning and god who wants that. I'm fine with a few hours for people to -properly- discuss this instead of what looks like a whirlwind of panic.

Krabs: He never says much at all. I think the fact he answered the accusations against him at all instead of making up reasons not to answer anyone speaks for itself. I don't think his defense is that bad. He sounds like he's angry because he has no options. And he always self-votes out of rage. How is the self-vote scummy? Note he did not hammer himself and left it up to town to dictate when the lynch would happen.

I'm sorry, I'm blind and Saki's words mean nothing to me because I have no soul. What out of Saki's words make sense to you and why? (Don't quote her, I will punch you.) You don't think Alpha had good or bad intentions? Then why did he shoot?

Kiva-la · « **Reply #605 on:** October 30, 2011, 12:15:36 AM »

Self votes are bad because it's basically saying you don't want to play anymore and you should just be lynched regardless of alignment.

Saki's words make sense because if she's right, then Alpha didn't play optimally as either scum or third-party. Which makes me believe he's a silly townie.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #606 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:34:58 AM »

So what are we doing, Town? >_> We got the extension, are we going to proceed to do NOTHING THE FUCK AT ALL and waste the one-time 12 hour extension we had?

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #607 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:39:45 AM »

Apparently.

I would say something if I had something else to say. Barney is still the most convincing case for me.

DiEnd · « **Reply #608 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:41:33 AM »

no.

Ready to hammer Barney at all, I'm sure he isn't going to flip town.

Krabs I want you to look at the refuckingdiculousness of your statement. If you know someone is town, there is no reason to kill them just because they are a bad player. What the fuck's that going to solve, yeah they're town with you, you have to deal with it. Killing them just because is not acceptable.

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Self votes are bad because it's basically saying you don't want to play anymore and you should just be lynched regardless of alignment.

Absolutes like this are rediculous and you need to knock them off. Just take something from this ok?

Other stuff, yeah a hellofalot is hanging here in the balence so I'm ready to ~~swing that axe~~ pop a hammer down when we're cool. (As in if you all don't start talking it's going to fall)

W · « **Reply #609 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:53:23 AM »

I express annoyance at Gilgamesh, but hold him to have a post ready with answers to my request by tomorrow. Cause he ain't gonna be dead. :V

I believe I have done what I wished to do. Not like I can say much else if the people that need prodding aren't here/need replacing. Alright. In the case of a town untargettable I suggest everyone stay calm and do not panic. We're still good a little longer. In case of scum, rejoice!

Kiva-la · « **Reply #610 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:54:14 AM »

@Merryweather: If I know someone is town, I definetly wouldn't lynch/kill them (unless I'm scum). What I was saying is that because we don't know his alignment, we can lynch him and if he flips town, we may have lost a townie but they weren't too useful, and if he flips scum, then yay.
It's really more about looking on the bright side of it.

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Skull · « **Reply #611 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:00:34 AM »

Quote from: Mr.Krabs on October 29, 2011, 11:20:44 PM

Other than Barney, I would kill Bardiche.

Now, if Barney's claim holds true, we really need to decide if we want him lynched or not, because we may not get this chance again.
Does anybody here have a Night Vig? Because if somebody does, I would suggest using it on Bardiche and lynching Barney.

Then what would be a point of letting Bardiche live?
I want Bardiche to live so he can prove his role. If you kill him at night, how can he prove his role? flip? =_=

I agree with Saki's point on Merryweather,
I ask a rolefishing question.
She tells me to shut it.

She asks for claims.
She goes free. What? What is this leeway she has?

On another note I decided to throw a theory away.
That leaves me at 5 clears (Excluding myself)

@Megaman.EXE: From ISO reading Kanji's posts, there is zero mentioning of Megaman.EXE in anything. He supported using a vig on me using the same logic as Bardiche. Over zealous mentioning of me considering the fact that he has continously dismissed me as useless.(I believe someone stated this before?)
Wants me dead, yet reasons with himself about his own theory of me "mysteriously" targetting the dead.

@Mr.Krabs: Hm...Derp? God knows.

@Merryweather: I am wary of her, she makes cases and stuff...but feels more along the line of pushing a wagon for a roleclaim. nullish.

@Barney: I believe people had covered this enough that there isn't much to talk about? There is the possibility of him stating everyone else is town due to him knowing it already, but meh.

Quote from: Saki Morimi on October 29, 2011, 11:32:10 PM

... I don't even think this is a funny joke.

It sure makes it more humorous considering the fact that your avatar is smiling.

Out with this for now I suppose.

DiEnd · « **Reply #612 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:05:35 AM »

Let's go over this one more time since I guess you missed it.

Li had no chance whatsoever of dying today. He isn't getting lynched, no one needs to know what his powers are and what he can do. No reason to ask for them

Barney is about to die. He was close to it when I asked for his claim. It could have swayed me and been a verifiable action, something could have happened for me to prove it etc.
It also would not be good if we just killed, say the doctor without asking him to claim. Yes scum can fakeclaim it but it would be better to not kill him because he has verifyable actions or could be proven what have you. I don't buy his claim.

What I'm getting at here is I'm not getting smack because asking Barney to claim is completely called for while asking Li to claim is not.

Does this make sense?

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #613 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:27:53 AM »

Might I ask what we're waiting for before the hammer? It doesn't seem like we're at a point where everybody's opinions would shift one way or another. I want to see some flips.

DiEnd · « **Reply #614 on:** October 30, 2011, 02:52:10 AM »

Ancient evil get the hint,
Only good can recompense,
For the misdeeds that you have done,
Scum return from which you've come!

##Vote: Barney

Serela · « **Reply #615 on:** October 30, 2011, 03:01:26 AM »

Town used their one extension, but then decided they didn't need it; and so, came the fateful end of Barney the purple dinosaur, to the great ~~relief~~ sadness of children everywhere.

But to the great joy of the villagers! For not only was he Barney, but he was scum.
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Barney, who was Resistant Rebecca, has been lynched.

Resistant Rebecca was, to put it simply, an Ascetic Roleblocker; she was immune to practically everything but being voted and lynched, and each night could target one person to roleblock, in addition to being able to go on the mafia's factional kill.

Night 2 starts now. You will have up to 24 hours to send in your night actions.

Barney (6): Mr. Krabs, Megaman.EXE, Captain Li Shang, Gilgamesh, Bardiche, Merryweather
Bardiche (3): Saki Morimi, Alpha60, Barney

Not Voting: Nobody

Serela · « **Reply #616 on:** October 30, 2011, 03:02:42 AM »

Also, Megaman.EXE will be modkilled if a replacement is not found by day start.

Serela · « **Reply #617 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:02:57 AM »

Bardiche!, playing Triplet of Visions, Visionary Veronica, was killed during the night.

Megaman.EXE was not killed during the night. But no replacement could be found, so instead, he got hit by modlightning! He was Clairvoyant Clara.

Visionary Veronica could target one person each night to watch, and see whoever targetted them during the night.

Clairvoyant Clara was able to recieve a short message from anyone who died.

There is about 72 hours left in the day. With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day 3 starts now.

DiEnd · « **Reply #618 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:57:50 AM »

Lets see I'm clearing Krabs over being Barney's dream midlynch for now.
Gilgamesh is confirmed town since there was a kill last night and he ate a roleblock.
Duffman and Li are townie bros.
That leaves the scummy vig and the guy who made the counter wagon to scum hardcore.
Especially now that said pusher wrote a huge case on why the scummy vig can't be scum.
He wrote the scum wagon off because the people who were on it, now confirmed townies weren't the towniest people around and handwaved away the main parts of the case.
Let's start with you explaining the who you would kill thing in full now.

##Vote: Saki Morimi

W · « **Reply #619 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:01:07 AM »

Today better not be as much of a thing as yesterday. It was the kind of day to make a 9 proud.

BUT WE GOT A SCUM YEAH FISTBUMPS! So I gotta ask, because Duffman will not be happy if someone else did that. Did one of my townie bros shove Bardiche off a balcony last night? That would so not be awesome. Duffman needs you to come clean. Otherwise we have a righteously ~*Confirmed Town*~ in Gilgamesh who ate the roleblocker pill. Let's see..

3.Captain Li Shang (Mulan)
6.Alpha 60 (Alphaville)
7.Saki Morimi (Eden of the East film)
8.Merryweather (Sleeping Beauty)
9.Mr.Krabs (The Spongebob Squarepants Movie)
11.Duffman (The Simpsons Movie)
12.Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works)

These are our current suspects, people. Duffman is going to eat and think. For now, Duffman's main suspects are Alpha 60 and Saki Morimi just through process of elimination. We're on our way dudes! Cut by Marrymeweather making a TOTALLY SEXY VERSION OF DUFFMAN'S POST OH YEAH!

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #620 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:33:59 AM »

Last night I redirected all night actions away from Li Shang and onto Megaman.EXE, with backup target Bardiche in case of modkill; as per who Town chose yesterday, and as per my belief that the remaining people are either Townie or Useless... well, someone had to bite a bullet. Would you have rather had Li Shang died?

You can of course attack me for pushing the Bardiche case over the Barney case, but I stand by that. I felt my D1 case was not strong enough to warrant a D2 repeat of it, and I remain unconvinced that the people on the Barney wagon, subtracting Li, were exemplars of Townie behaviour at the time enough that I didn't like the wagon they supported.

Duffman himself voted Bardiche while at the same time citing disagreeance for my reasoning, and later claiming he never really read Barney's posts. While it may be egregious to make a counter-wagon to scum, I think it's also a problem if someone votes the counter-wagon without much reasoning. He said himself he only knew of the Barney case what Li had been telling him in a QT, and he further showed a complete lack of concern for actually scumhunting yesterday.

Yes, he did propose to kill Kanji, but after that he leaned back lazily and stopped doing much of anything, which seems like lazy scum thinking they're now town confirmed and can chill out. The idea of a HYPER VIG BUS doesn't seem strange, and on the whole I'm not sure they believed a vig would take them up on their proposal. The above post is further testing the waters: state suspicion but too lazy to actually do the homework and be able to slap a vote down.

##Vote: Duffman

DiEnd · « **Reply #621 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:41:35 AM »

After I had already stated that lolno being the counterwagon to when scum flips will make him town you seriously "redirected" the kill to Bardiche. You had no other person to kill like say Duffman who is the only person I see you showing suspicion at now? Duffman's the last scum?
I have trouble believing that. I'm going as far as to say you are the last scum, busdriver.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #622 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:42:43 AM »

I'm going so far as to claim the kill on Kanji.

DiEnd · « **Reply #623 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:44:09 AM »

Quote from: Merryweather on October 29, 2011, 11:45:06 PM

I do hope someone realizes that when Barney flips scum here in a second Bardiche is probably town.

So you're a vig busdriver huh?

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #624 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:46:58 AM »

No, I'm a One-Shot Specialist.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #625 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:49:33 AM »

^ To explain, I have a number of one-shot abilities. I wanted to use the vig kill straight out of the gate, and figured Kanji was as good as any a place to start, and since Duffman was super town to me on D1, I went with his suggestion after asking the reasons.

I chose to use my one-shot redirecter (those targeting Bard would not have targeted Li) to protect who I now felt was most Townie.

DiEnd · « **Reply #626 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:52:02 AM »

Mmhmm.

Who would be your second choice for scum?

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Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #628 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:56:07 AM »

Either you or Gilgamesh. I believe in Alpha 60, and Krabs seems Town enough beyond the D1 scuffle. Alpha 60 still doesn't make sense as scum to me, nor as third party. That Duffman's main suspects are Alpha 60 and me after you jumped out the train saying we were scummiest doesn't really bode well for my feelings for him either. :derp:

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #629 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:57:54 AM »

I suggest we all massclaim.

I don't understand why Saki would redirect Night actions to a claimed tracker who was the counter-wagon to scum.

However did you think Scum WOULDN'T kill the claimed tracker if he was not scum? Why Li, and not say merryweather, the one who actually hammered scum?

APART FROM THAT. on the surface the Duffman vote and the saki cases and votes seem OK on the surface.

I claim nothing other than what I've claimed already, one-shot DAYVIG, and that is the extent of my role.

-cut by a true busdriver claim. ah ok. still a bit confused and shaken so. I have to think more.