Author Topic: Psycho Prophecy (Game Over Town Win) (Read 45324 times)

Kiva-la · « **Reply #630 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:59:49 AM »

^^^Best bah post ever.

Through process of elimination (just like everyone else is using), Saki is very likely to be the last scum.
I'm town.
Merryweather, Duffman and Li are pretty townie.
Gilgamesh is cleared for reasons already stated by Merryweather and Duffman.
Alpha did some silly townie shit so I think he's town.
Which leaves Saki.

tl;dr what Merryweather said.

Cut 2 times. I'm fine with a massclaim. I'll claim next if anyone wants.

DiEnd · « **Reply #631 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:00:49 AM »

Stop it with the fucking massclaiming.

Gilgamesh is confirmed town for there being a nightkill remember?
So you suspect Duffman and Merryweather in that order hm?

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #632 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:03:08 AM »

Holy crap, guys, a redirecter isn't a busdriver. A busdriver specifically swaps two targets, and while I have a shot of that I haven't used it for obvious reasons.

Yes, problem? Process of elimination once Duffman dies, and if he ain't scum I'd be surprised.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #633 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:06:05 AM »

Or well, you could lynch me, I guess, but then you'd still be sitting there wondering who the last scum is, if there aren't four. :derp: Unless anyone'd care to counter-claim my kill on Kanji? And I know nobody will because I doubt Serela gave Town a Day Vig with TWO Night Vigs.

Alpha, are you sure your requirements are real? >__> I have more than just the vig one-shot, why would you be left with only one shot and nothing else?

W · « **Reply #634 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:09:32 AM »

Saki, this is kind of important.
Did your redirect work to redirect to Bardiche, or to Megaman.EXE last night? Megaman wasn't dead until this morning, so he should have been a viable target if you redirected to him. I thought it was obvious you took the shot.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #635 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:11:58 AM »

I have nothing else.

I thought my role was pretty normal, but hot damn there is crazy shit everywhere.

I thought Duffman was the one to take the shot N1.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #636 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:12:33 AM »

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I thought it was obvious you took the shot.

And yet you still find me a suspect for scum. You think Scum with a second night kill action would use it to kill one of their own, and then desperately cling to a Bardiche wagon even if it would've been easy to jump on the Barney train? Yeahno. Unless you're going to suggest it's all Crazymad ~*GAMBITS*~, but I think shooting my scum allies would've been Pesco coming down on me with the raging fist of the north star.

I'm asking confirmation from Serela now, who just said YOUR ACTION WAS A SUCCESS :V, but I strongly suspect it worked to redirect to Bardiche.

DiEnd · « **Reply #637 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:16:54 AM »

So your retort is a flood of wifom. Awesome.

You couldn't have jumped to the Barney wagon, which you refused to acknowledge, because that would be killing both of your partners. :V

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #638 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:18:38 AM »

Fair point, and I used scum's second kill to murder a scumbuddy because that seemed like the right genius thing to do.

I guess you caught me red-handed.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #639 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:20:39 AM »

Serela confirmed that my Night Action made all actions targeting Li Shang hit Bardiche instead. If anyone else targeted Li Shang you can speak up now. :derp:

DiEnd · « **Reply #640 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:21:05 AM »

It lets you whip out a verifiable claim that could save you in LYLO.

I need to hear from Li.

W · « **Reply #641 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:22:27 AM »

Quote from: Saki Morimi on October 31, 2011, 04:12:33 AM

Unless you're going to suggest it's all Crazymad ~*GAMBITS*~, but I think shooting my scum allies would've been Pesco coming down on me with the raging fist of the north star.

You know, if it was anyone but you I wouldn't be rolling this scenario over in my head. There are very few options to me at this point. No, I didn't take shots at anyone. Duffman's power is a different kind of righteous. I... -think- the only other option I could consider is Li Shang. But that would just be.. weird.. Everything in this game is such a THING!

Ugh. I was hoping you redirected to Megaman.EXE. You should have redirected to Krabs you goof. Now we have no way of knowing if they actually tried to kill Bardiche or Li Shang.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #642 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:23:54 AM »

Holy shit that is the most pants-on-head retarded reaction I've ever seen to a vig murdering scum.

I now join Bardiche's sentiment, I don't want to be part of this Town.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #643 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:29:15 AM »

What do you need to hear from me, Merry? I'm around, I'm just not posting yet because I haven't finished (or started <_<) my re-read yet.

My current take on the situation is that I was reading Saki as town last night because I think scum!Saki would have just wanted to coast on the Alpha wagon to prevent Barney's from starting back up, but the recent claim shenanigans are weird. I will come to a conclusion after I do that re-read, which will probably not be for a while because I'm supposed to be training my squadon to defeat the huns right now and re-reading+posting would probably take about an hour. I am very confident that Duffman is town due to quicktopic shenanigans, so I don't buy into him being the counterwagon to Saki.

I was not told that I was attacked or anything last night, though I'm not sure if Serela would have informed me if I was. I think killing the Watcher makes a lot more sense for scum than killing me. Assuming the last scum isn't a ninja, killing off the claimed investigative role who was also a counterwagon to the Barney wagon would be their best way to avoid getting crushed by a mountain of nine-hundred or so power roles.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #644 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:31:13 AM »

No, I didn't shoot Kanji.

W · « **Reply #645 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:37:16 AM »

Oh don't be like that. I'm serious when I say I consider it because of how few other options there are.
But god damnit WHY redirect onto the damn Watcher?! Ugh.

So we've seen the scum team with a rolecop that follows QT's and a completely untargettable roleblocker. This is >:< because it makes it impossible to figure out what the third scum is. My thoughts run along the lines of either a hitman with unblockable kills or a godfather ninja. Or a godfather hitman...

Honestly, Saki slamming the breaks on the Alpha 60 wagon doesn't make much sense as scum. Bardiche hadn't claimed yet. I think Alpha would have been a much tastier lynch compared to attracting attention to his partner again. GOD DAMNIT EVERYONE IS TOWN

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #646 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:53:26 AM »

Because I thought it'd be pants-on-head retarded to assume a Scum!Duffman would suggest vigging his buddy D1, a Scum!Merryweather didn't seem plausible (I admit to be blindsided with regards to her and have to reread), a Scum!Li to make no fucking sense with a QT tapper, a Scum!Krabs to be stupid, and a Scum!Alpha60 remains to make no goddamn sense to me. Gilgamesh was more useless than scum to me and now with this roleblock revelations remains to be useless moreso than scum. The only way he can be scum is if the roleblock was for the day phase only (hahaha no) or if scum have another "Lol I get to ignore roleblocks ^_^" role, which seems absurd.

SO HEY. WHO THE FUCK ELSE DID I NEED TO REDIRECT ONTO? Yeah, maybe KRABS in hindsight but seriously bro, I sent in the order ages ago and didn't really spend the rest of the time thinking about Mafiers because I honestly thought I'd hit Megaman with it anyway.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #647 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:53:40 AM »

Thinking things over, I think Saki is a terrible lynch even before re-reading. Nobody counterclaimed her vig shot, and shooting a scumbuddy on N1 is awful considering that scum wins through numbers. They would need a very overpowered role-related faithful backup plan to make up for it, and given that scum!Saki means that their third role is probably a redirecter of some sort, I doubt this could be the case

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #648 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:57:26 AM »

Then again, there's still the possibility that KRABS shot Kanji. But if he doesn't claim that, we're not lynching Saki today.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #649 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:59:01 AM »

So am I the only one who considers Duffman sketchy? >_> Because delaying the hammer on Barney seems pretty scummy to me too, given the extension could've caused some people to actually want to idk swap wagons or whatever.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #650 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:59:47 AM »

Quote from: Duffman on October 31, 2011, 04:37:16 AM

EVERYONE IS TOWN

This is such a rare event.
~~If it keeps up we will probably have to resort to Keine random lynches.~~

I seriously don't know where to go from here.
We could look further into the people we unanimously agree are town (a.k.a Duffman, Merryweather and Li), or we can look into horrible people who make no sense as scum (a.k.a Alpha and Myself).

Cut three times, no, I did not shoot Kanji. I don't have a vigging role.
Cut again.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #651 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:00:46 AM »

I think we should go with the first option, because if Alpha and I don't make any sense as scum, then the last scum must be hiding within those three.

Punch Hopper · « **Reply #652 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:00:56 AM »

I would lynch Krabs or Alpha before I would lynch Duffman.

Delaying the hammer on Barney makes no sense for scum because Duffman used the extra time to unvote the Bardiche wagon and spend the rest of the day attacking Barney and while he wasn't capable of doing anything.

DiEnd · « **Reply #653 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:01:42 AM »

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They would need a very overpowered role-related faithful backup plan to make up for it

Which is why this is such a motherfucking problem arrgh.

Krabs Li and Saki are the only viable people for me at this point.
Li practically bleeds town
Krabs was Barney's hounding since the game began but whatever.
Saki has just claimed some scummy shit and I'm honestly getting torn here.

Kick Hopper · « **Reply #654 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:04:05 AM »

Gilgamesh who did you check, and was it successful?
Pills may need to digest, like the yellow one did >_>.
Actually let's hold off on the massclaim... for now. I'll need a good hard re-read. But that will have to be tomorrow since I'm exhausted at the moment.

If no one ccs the vig shot then yes, Scum!saki makes no sense. (Also I think the problem is whhy you made Bardiche the secondary re-directee instead of... Krabs who still looks town)

At the moment, I can't really imagine anyone as scum or what the last scum role could possibly be. ~~Serela: Mod thy goddess~~

I'd lynch myself before anyone. That's an almost serious statement.

Skull · « **Reply #655 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:06:19 AM »

Alright apparently the pill that roleblocks worked and I felt too woozy to find out orange's name.
Colors...#@$!~

You all ever consider the possibility of Mr.Krabs and Barney just trying their best to buss each other...?
This is the theory I want to happen the most. Since it seemed to be true on my other Theory of Barney thinking everyone else being town because he knew they are town.

And no Alpha 60, your not leaving this till its over.

Kaku Seiga · « **Reply #656 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:11:26 AM »

Duffman delayed the hammer so he could swap from saying nothing of value on Barney to attacking him. I'll just say that he could well be trying to get in on the bus cred there but fine, if you guys are so sold on Duffman being absolute Town, I can't do much.

I'd rather lynch Krabs over Alpha, and Merryweather over both of those because Krabs and Alpha don't make much sense as Scum. Admittedly Krabs makes more sense as scum but forgive me if I find it unlikely. >_>

And yes part of why I want to lynch Merryweather is probably OMGUS: I don't understand why the shit a Town!Merryweather would honestly go to such lengths to justify lynching me by going as far as suggesting a Scum!Saki would have KILLED A PERFECTLY SECURE SCUMBUDDY on N1 just to get massive Town cred in LYLO, but neglect to join the Barney wagon which I could've done just fine if I updated my D1 case and slammed on some bullshit.

And cut by Merryweather continuing to push that I must be scum. Why are you so sure on Alpha 60 not being scum? Because I convinced you? I recall you just jumped on the bandwagon third on him without much explanation:

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Personal vendeta to kill a cop and then turns around and says, "ha ha fuck you all I don't want to help a town as awful as this, even when I think this other guy really is scum."
I mean damn, even I wouldn't do something like that.

That sounds a whole lot worse than accusing him of panic-shooting the Cop, which was a really real possibility to consider for a brief moment. No, you just slammed "personal vendeta" on him and that he refuses to help Town.

What scummy shit did I claim? Attempting to protect Li Shang (granted, perhaps the Bardiche target was not optimal) and killing Scum. I stand by these claims and if that's scummy, then I seriously question your faculties. I just didn't think anyone else could possibly be scum.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #657 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:18:45 AM »

I think we should do a massclaim.

DiEnd · « **Reply #658 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:19:17 AM »

Alright Alright, we're approching dangerous territory.

There is a cop innocent report on Alpha right now that I'm willing to buy.

Duffman is town, glad we cleared that up.

Gilgamesh is also town

Li is really town as well, I would offer him Chai Tea for doing that good.

Krabs was hounded all game by Barney and I don't think it's super bussssss

Yes, you could have also joined the Barney wagon but the fact that you handwaved it all yesterday is what's bothering me. I'm coupling this with you pushed hardcore on the Barney counterwagon even though you could have rolled with an Alpha which is making me doubt, and that you chose to kill the watcher with your redirect which may or may not exist.

This are the motherfucking things I'm taking into account and why you are the likely scum canidate at this jecture.

Kiva-la · « **Reply #659 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:20:40 AM »

@Merryweather: But maybe you are scum instead?