Author Topic: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure  (Read 42268 times)

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Re: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #240 on: October 14, 2011, 04:08:56 AM »
> "Sure."
> Turn to Byakuren.
> "Thanks."
> Have a sip or two.

>"You're welcome," says Byakuren, as she serves Mr Kirisame.
>You sip your tea; it pleasantly warm, doing a lot to shake off the mild chill from the rain. It also reminds you that you've barely eaten today...
>"So," says Ichiro, "It seems our friend has been quite the troublemaker recently?"

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Re: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #241 on: October 14, 2011, 04:11:17 AM »
> Look over to Byakuren.
> "They've heard plenty from me. You wanna tell them what you've seen and remember from the library?"
> We still have a rice ball or two, don't we? Let's dig into one.
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Re: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #242 on: October 14, 2011, 04:43:13 AM »
> Look over to Byakuren.
> "They've heard plenty from me. You wanna tell them what you've seen and remember from the library?"
> We still have a rice ball or two, don't we? Let's dig into one.

>Byakuren nods. "It's a rather complex issue. Let us say that Rinnosuke would have made any deity he chose to support very happy. His devotion to his idea of commerce is...second to none."
>You dig into one of your riceballs. It's a bit old, but you're hungry enough that it's still quite welcome.
>"That is the heart of the matter really, his devotion to it is so strong it's become an obsession, and his obsession seems to rule his entire life. That devotion and that obsession have gone hand in hand to create the situation we have now."
>"So it was priests' nonsense after all," says Mr Kirisame.
>"In a sense," says Byakuren. "Save, the god we're dealing isn't a proper deity, just the ideal of barter. And, well, the more we look into Rinnosuke, the more it seems he was practically on the level of a hermit in his devotion to it."

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Re: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #243 on: October 14, 2011, 10:37:37 AM »
> "What about the ways Patchouli listed that this sort of thing could be dealt with?"
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« Reply #244 on: October 14, 2011, 10:53:29 AM »
> "What about the ways Patchouli listed that this sort of thing could be dealt with?"

>"That would be useful to hear," says Ichiro.
>Bykauren nods. "Well, the best way would be to treat his delusions, but that would be the labor of a great deal of time. She also mentioned trumping it with an ideology that would rival his, Nue mentioned charity as a viable idea, but I don't think we found a good way to use it to trump him as of yet. That leaves beating him at his own game, which is not going to be easy but it seems to be the course we're going to follow. Oh, and she suggested getting him to violate his beliefs somehow, like getting a shrine maiden to commit blasphemy, but I don't think we're really found a good way to do that."
>"Mmm, a tangled web," Ichiro says, nodding solemnly.

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Re: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #245 on: October 14, 2011, 10:57:52 AM »
> "Yeah, about the beating him at his own game thing. I've learned from Tewi that he can apparently dig up information on past uses of something he traded to you, and depending on how much you've used it, he can retroactively add debt onto you, because you got more use out of the item than originally intended. He can use that debt to make you do him favors through some sort of bizarre coercion. It might even be a form of mind control, I'm not entirely sure."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #246 on: October 14, 2011, 11:09:52 AM »
> "Yeah, about the beating him at his own game thing. I've learned from Tewi that he can apparently dig up information on past uses of something he traded to you, and depending on how much you've used it, he can retroactively add debt onto you, because you got more use out of the item than originally intended. He can use that debt to make you do him favors through some sort of bizarre coercion. It might even be a form of mind control, I'm not entirely sure."

>"Perhaps it is an aspect of those sparks he gathers?" says Byakuren.

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Re: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #247 on: October 14, 2011, 01:50:32 PM »
>"Maybe. I'm not convinced it's what he says it is, though. The whole 'not an equivilant trade' thing seems to contradict his reason for preferring a barter system."

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« Reply #248 on: October 14, 2011, 02:04:58 PM »
> "Regardless, I'm currently guessing that, if those are rules of trade debt he can impose on others, then they should apply to him as well. He has gotten as far as has he thanks to two seemingly-innocuous trades with our two guests; by his own rules, he is indebted to them for the extra mileage he got out of what they gave him."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #249 on: October 14, 2011, 07:54:02 PM »
>"Maybe. I'm not convinced it's what he says it is, though. The whole 'not an equivilant trade' thing seems to contradict his reason for preferring a barter system."

>Byakuren nods. "I won't pretend to understand that aspect better than you do."

> "Regardless, I'm currently guessing that, if those are rules of trade debt he can impose on others, then they should apply to him as well. He has gotten as far as has he thanks to two seemingly-innocuous trades with our two guests; by his own rules, he is indebted to them for the extra mileage he got out of what they gave him."

>"The question is, what do we do with this advantage?" says Ichiro.

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« Reply #250 on: October 14, 2011, 09:24:20 PM »
> "Maybe we could get him to do something that violates his faith. Like spend some of the money currently sitting in his basement. Or, since he is powered by what he perceives as the inherent inequality of exchange, we get him to trade something for another thing that is basically the same thing."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #251 on: October 14, 2011, 10:21:37 PM »
> "Maybe we could get him to do something that violates his faith. Like spend some of the money currently sitting in his basement. Or, since he is powered by what he perceives as the inherent inequality of exchange, we get him to trade something for another thing that is basically the same thing."

>"Well, I think you still have that apron, in regards to that second point," says Byakuren. "And...hm, it'd be hard to trick him into spending money. But it would almost certainly do the trick."

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« Reply #252 on: October 14, 2011, 10:25:07 PM »
> "We might not even need tricks, if we can just make him do it with that debt power. "
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[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #253 on: October 14, 2011, 10:28:27 PM »
> "We might not even need tricks, if we can just make him do it with that debt power. "

>"If we can just make him do it," says Mr Kirisame.

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Re: Nue Quest 7 - Serpent Isle: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #254 on: October 14, 2011, 10:48:21 PM »
> How did Patchouli mention the sword's power compared to what Rinnosuke was doing again?
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[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
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« Reply #255 on: October 14, 2011, 10:52:29 PM »
> How did Patchouli mention the sword's power compared to what Rinnosuke was doing again?

>You recall that she mentioned they were similar things at the meeting last night.

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« Reply #256 on: October 14, 2011, 11:18:44 PM »
> But she didn't elaborate?
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

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« Reply #257 on: October 14, 2011, 11:22:25 PM »
> But she didn't elaborate?

>Not that you recall. She said it seemed fairly akin to what she felt when the event happened.

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« Reply #258 on: October 14, 2011, 11:59:47 PM »
> "Right, and I'll admit that's a fairly big 'if'."
> "But there might be one other thing. I haven't decided yet how much I want to pursue it, given he sold me half of it and this could tack onto my fictitious debt..."
> Carefully pull out the pieces of the sword again. Make sure the side of the blade with the writing is visible.
> "Patchouli got this translated. As best it could be, anyway. Apparently it more or less means 'Do as I say', but in a more commanding context, like 'Yield and obey me'."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #259 on: October 15, 2011, 12:08:57 AM »
> "Right, and I'll admit that's a fairly big 'if'."
> "But there might be one other thing. I haven't decided yet how much I want to pursue it, given he sold me half of it and this could tack onto my fictitious debt..."
> Carefully pull out the pieces of the sword again. Make sure the side of the blade with the writing is visible.
> "Patchouli got this translated. As best it could be, anyway. Apparently it more or less means 'Do as I say', but in a more commanding context, like 'Yield and obey me'."

>Mr Kirisame leans over to get a look at it. "This thing again," he says. "Does it do much?"
>"And, should we be trusting a weapon?" says Ichiro.

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« Reply #260 on: October 15, 2011, 12:15:12 AM »
> "Well, when Patchouli gave it a look-over last night, she said it had a power similar to what Morichika has used to pull off his stunt. And one of the goddesses of the mountain did strongly suggest that Morichika's faith could be defeated by another faith of greater magnitude."
> Did Shizuha give greater credence to a generic faith of greater magnitude or faith in a concept that naturally cancelled out Rinnosuke's faith?
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[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #261 on: October 15, 2011, 12:35:31 AM »
> "Well, when Patchouli gave it a look-over last night, she said it had a power similar to what Morichika has used to pull off his stunt. And one of the goddesses of the mountain did strongly suggest that Morichika's faith could be defeated by another faith of greater magnitude."
> Did Shizuha give greater credence to a generic faith of greater magnitude or faith in a concept that naturally cancelled out Rinnosuke's faith?

>Shizuha seemed to put more credence in one that would naturally counter Rinnosuke's views.
>"And what does this thing have to do with faith?" says Ichiro. "I assume it was magic?"

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« Reply #262 on: October 15, 2011, 01:36:09 AM »
> "I'm not sure. I'm willing to put stock in what Patchouli has to say, though. And it's strange, because i had an incredibly vivid dream last night, where I had this sword, and it was whole. And I ruled over the entire oni village with it. Ordered the Devas into submission and everything. It was very much a 'yield and obey me' situation. I don't normally put much stock in dreams, but I remembered it really clearly after I woke up, much more so than normal."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

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« Reply #263 on: October 15, 2011, 03:08:02 AM »
> "I'm not sure. I'm willing to put stock in what Patchouli has to say, though. And it's strange, because i had an incredibly vivid dream last night, where I had this sword, and it was whole. And I ruled over the entire oni village with it. Ordered the Devas into submission and everything. It was very much a 'yield and obey me' situation. I don't normally put much stock in dreams, but I remembered it really clearly after I woke up, much more so than normal."

>"That'll be the sword, no mistaking it," says Mr Kirisame.
>"I'm not sure what to think about it," Ichiro says, rubbing his chin and frowning at the weapon.
>"Not like it's going to hurt any worse," Mystia says, arms crossed and her face noncommittal.

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« Reply #264 on: October 15, 2011, 03:23:37 AM »
> "S'pose that's true. He's probably got enough to have his way with me even if I didn't do something meaningful with this handle."
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[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #265 on: October 15, 2011, 03:27:02 AM »
> "S'pose that's true. He's probably got enough to have his way with me even if I didn't do something meaningful with this handle."

>"Is it any...good, while broken?" says Ichiro. "Or, I suppose, the question is, can it be restored?"

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« Reply #266 on: October 15, 2011, 04:22:19 AM »
> "...Maybe. The end of the dream had me somewhere in the forest. Southwest. Waaaaay southwest. And the sword went back and forth between broken and whole. I don't know what's out there, but I can't imagine the sword showed me that part of the forest because it wants to rule over a bunch of trees."
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[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #267 on: October 15, 2011, 04:29:24 AM »
> "...Maybe. The end of the dream had me somewhere in the forest. Southwest. Waaaaay southwest. And the sword went back and forth between broken and whole. I don't know what's out there, but I can't imagine the sword showed me that part of the forest because it wants to rule over a bunch of trees."

>"It wouldn't, I'll tell you that," says Mr. Kirisame.
>"Though dreams are tricky things, to say the least," Byakuren says as she frowns at the broken weapon.
>"Where at, exactly?" says Mystia.

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« Reply #268 on: October 15, 2011, 04:30:51 AM »
> "Even further southwest than the southwest where we traveled. I'll probably use where we went as a starting point."
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[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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« Reply #269 on: October 15, 2011, 04:38:45 AM »
> "Even further southwest than the southwest where we traveled. I'll probably use where we went as a starting point."

>Mystia nods. "Wish I could tell you something about it, but I don't think anyone goes out that way."

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