"Placeholder Sign [I can't think of a name]" (Spell Card Help Topic IV)

[RegalStar]

For Youmu's midboss and first boss nonspell on stage 5, you can just redirect them. On easy/normal/hard, you can only redirect one wave by starting the fights above her, and you will have to dodge the second wave manually. For lunatic you can redirect both waves if you want. I'll go whip up a replay as example.

Stage 6 non-spell can't be redirected, but it's slow and easy to just dodge.

EDIT: Replay here. Please ignore everything else on the stage as I did really bad.

[Marisa Kirisame]

The fairies before Nue can be handled pretty easily by circling around them, as long as you're Reimu, and I really hope you are. Nue's first card is plain dodging. Just try to read ahead as far as you can. Mamizou's is just streaming, but it makes a big difference which direction you choose. I think you want to move against the blue guys, but I don't remember, so just try each one out. Also unfocus when you aren't under her to get her with homing. (What you said about "getting close enough" makes me fear that you are using Youmu, but please just be Reimu.)

EDIT: Nevermind, I confused her first and second. Yes, Nue's first is much easier if you get really close. In that case the replay does demonstrate pretty well what you should do. :derp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2pzegs7Y-g

Here's a replay with a timeout of Nue's first card. I don't think it will help much because there's really no strategy, but maybe it'll give you an idea or something? -

No I'm Marisa and just unlocked with Youmu. Since a lot of these seem to fall back on Reimu, I'm going to unlock it with her realy fast.

I'll look through the replays you linked.

[Zil]

For those other nonspells you can misdirect the first wave my standing over Youmu becuase they're aimed. I've never tried it so I don't know if it's actually as simple as that, and it might not work on the last one or something, so practice it a bit. I guess this was covered already :derp:
And as for Fazioli Performance, personally I always choose to fight Merlin becuase I think she's easiest, so you might want to just fight her instead.

And it seems someone actually asked about this card so... for me I just stream from left to right, then change direction, and that works.
Since you asked for a replay, here's one where I just captured it (and did laughably at everything else) - http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18017

[Marisa Kirisame]

First of all, there is no such thing as shame in Touhou.

For the opening fairies, just circle around them for a while, don't be afraid to use the top of the screen. And remember, if there's nothing but fairies shooting 4 streams as opposed to 3, you can stay perfectly still and not get hit.

For Nue, what I typically do is trance the first card just before the spirits the fairies drop disappear, which makes 6 life pieces and 1 full bomb if I also kill the card. That bomb is promptly spent on the second card, during which I hug Nue for spirits to spend on the end of the stage, and then I just capture the last card.

After that, pick a side and kill the fairies coming from that side to minimize the spam (if you're playing Reimu, being unfocused to pick off the other side helps). The fairies after the spam are probably the hardest segment of the stage portion; remember that it's center, right, left (and don't be afraid to bomb here). The second spam is easier I think, then you trance the big fairies because they drop a ton of life/bomb pieces.

As for Mamizou's first card: Start from the center and stream slowly to one side. Return to the center (this is the hardest part, just make sure to get through the bullets quickly) and stream to the other side. Repeat as necessary. Timeout of the card if it'll help.

I know there is no shame in Touhou, it's just that TD is suposed to be considered one of the easier games so I was trying to avoid asking for help. Unfortunately that couldn't be helped. oh well. =)

The 4s won't hit you? that makes my life easier. =D

I'll look into the Mamizou replays. =D

And thanks guys. =)

[LeviLamprey]

Easy in Touhou is still hard in general!
And thanks for your very detailed help, Flandre, on Woo and Honest Man. Makes me wish spellcard practice was in every game...
Now, I'm capping every spell in IN with Youmu (I just saw Easy Hooting in the Night was 1/16, WTF :O) and I decided to skip over reimu and try marisa's hard/lunatic spells. After about 40 attempts I got Double Spark, and Shoot the Moon Lunatic in 4, BUT:

-Milky Way (Normal), Asteroid Belt (Hard/Lunatic): WHAT! Is there a set way to do this, because it's just plain cruel.
-Typhoon Laser Thingy (forget the name) on Hard/Lunatic: What do I do?
-Event Horizon: The familiars keep destroying Youmu where someone like Border Team can 1/2 tries cap this spell (I tried :B). What would the best way to avoid the familiars?
-Magicannon: Yeah. Fuck this. D:

Also, just out of curiosity, has anyone ever captured Life Spring Infinity? (I know they have, but...)
Because it and Dragon Bullet are just luck-based cruelty. D:

I'm also having trouble understanding exactly how Reisen's final spell 'cheat way' works with the blue ring.

Sorry I can't contribute anything back to people since I suck, but I was surprised Shoot the Moon was so easy. I've heard bad things about it, but Normal mode was harder than Lunatic.

[RegalStar]

For Life Spring Infinity, you need to go up - like a character length distance away from Kaguya. The hard version is easier than the normal version IMHO.

[Puffy]

Advice on the Books(Massive wave of green bullets) just before Midboss in stage 4 on EoSD lunatic level?

[RegalStar]

Bomb or pray.

I don't think anyone actually tries to capture that if possible when still trying to beat the game.

[Puffy]

Bomb or pray.

I don't think anyone actually tries to capture that if possible when still trying to beat the game.

Yeah, i usually bomb it, but then i feel the need to bomb on Patchoulli more since i could potentially have more bombs, but not sure if it is actually worth the risk.

[Marisa Kirisame]

Easy in Touhou is still hard in general!
And thanks for your very detailed help, Flandre, on Woo and Honest Man. Makes me wish spellcard practice was in every game...
Now, I'm capping every spell in IN with Youmu (I just saw Easy Hooting in the Night was 1/16, WTF :O) and I decided to skip over reimu and try marisa's hard/lunatic spells. After about 40 attempts I got Double Spark, and Shoot the Moon Lunatic in 4, BUT:

-Milky Way (Normal), Asteroid Belt (Hard/Lunatic): WHAT! Is there a set way to do this, because it's just plain cruel.
-Typhoon Laser Thingy (forget the name) on Hard/Lunatic: What do I do?
-Event Horizon: The familiars keep destroying Youmu where someone like Border Team can 1/2 tries cap this spell (I tried :B). What would the best way to avoid the familiars?
-Magicannon: Yeah. Fuck this. D:

Also, just out of curiosity, has anyone ever captured Life Spring Infinity? (I know they have, but...)
Because it and Dragon Bullet are just luck-based cruelty. D:

I'm also having trouble understanding exactly how Reisen's final spell 'cheat way' works with the blue ring.

Sorry I can't contribute anything back to people since I suck, but I was surprised Shoot the Moon was so easy. I've heard bad things about it, but Normal mode was harder than Lunatic.

Ok here goes some more and You are quite welcome for before:

Milky Way/Asteroid Belt: No real specific gimick here. This set of card is about how well you can read your surroundings, paying attention to both above you and the sides. The big stars coming down are statci and that pattern never changes, you just need to keep tabs on the side bullets and not get walled off by stars.

Starlight Typhoon: Keep tot he bottom for the first two waves of lasers (start in the middle bottom actually.) (also going under the assumption you are using the Border team) Stay close to the laser coming from the left and very slowly make your way to the right, not being hit by the laser from the left. As soon as that laser disappears make your way back to the next left laser and do this strategy once more (It looks like the laser coming from the right will smack you in the first one but if you are close enough to the left one it won't.) after the second itme make your way just above the firing points for her lasers and keep your eyes open for the small stars coming down. The bigger stars being fired backwards have a specific timing. TIme you gap just right and dash through while avoiding the smaller stars. (leading the smaller stars, which are aimed directly at you, in this case is very helpful.)

Event Horizon: Actually a very easy cap if you are the border team. Stay in the very center bottom. Don't let the star shooting familiars going aroud freak you out. 99% of the time you will survive it all (unless it just flat out runs you over on the way down). THis card can actually be capped in the bottom center like that just keep and eye on your positioning relative to the ones planted around you and the ones coming down form above.

Magicannon: this spell is not as hard as it appears. It does, however, take a lot of unfocused movement. Start this above her evey time. When she is about to fire the laser, get right under her as fast as you can. the laser will disappear before it reaches you.head left (80% of the time she heads left after the first spark.) and watch out for the incoming stars and keep firing all the while. after two lines of stars pass you make your way (unfocused) to the upper right side of the screen. (be sure to make it out of the stars remianing as she's firing her laser the 2nd time. jump back again under her on the left side and listen carefully to the sounds in the game. when you hear the laser about to be fired, jump back to the right side again like you did in the 2nd firing. You'll want to stay in the upper right for a bit because after the 3rd laser, she'll jump over to the right side of the screen. Beign to make your way down right before her 4th laser fires, this will alleviate some of the pressure during this firing as she will have it aimed UP at where you were.Sit on the right wall dodging stars  right before the 5th firing and begin to run to the left side. the star dodging is a bit harder this time as the laser will be rather close  on your trail. once this laser goes away shotgun her as much as posisble. If you do all that she won't make it to a 6th laser. =) (Also I have various replayes of capping this with the border team, including her lunatic one, that i'd be more than happy to upload for you if it helps. Same of rht eother Mairsa cards you described)

Dragon Bullet: bottom center for the first shot and keep your eyes open on the paths of the multi colored bullets coming down. the lasers are such (at least from what I have played of it) that there is always a VERY small safe zone right under Kaguya.

Life Spring Infinity: This one isn't reall luck based as it is more or less like capping Milky way or Asteroid belt. There are only two differences: the lasers instead of huger stars and the red shot stars have a static pattern. They continually cross each other on the way up so time you jump through the gap appropriately and fast. She'll beign to set up the next wave rather quickly speed and good timing are essential.

Again. I'll upload any replay needed to help if that is asked for. =D

[Skyler]

Any tips for Tree-Ocean of Hourai? This is the only last word where I feel like I'm going to spend ages of rage trying to cap it.

[RegalStar]

Thank you Zil for your replay on Ghost Clifford. I have all the "hard" cards in PCB capped with ReimuB now - only ones left are Curse of Dream and Reality and a bunch of normal/easy cards.

[Elysia]

Any tips for Tree-Ocean of Hourai? This is the only last word where I feel like I'm going to spend ages of rage trying to cap it.

Once you learn how to manipulate the familiars, you can sort of ignore the pellets and focus purely on the circles. That makes it much easier to prevent getting overwhelmed trying to read the whole thing. Mainly you just move in sort of clockwise circles throughout the field around the familiars, starting from the lower left.

It's probably much easier to see it, so here is a failed attempt of mine to time it out. I would have capped it if I'd been shooting, so you can probably just do what I did there.

[Marisa Kirisame]

Back again for more Mamizou. (Thanks Zil for the Nue help and thanks Malkyrian for the tech with Primate. Used a similar one for Tanuki's Monstrous school and it worked fine)

Foolish Miko( Or whatever the name of the one is where she turns into Reimu) is my problem. I just have no idea how to approach it. Alsdo the very last segments of Danmaku in Ten Transformations (the part where the little people spawn in). I'm at a loss there too.

Thanks ahead of time.

[ふねん1]

Mamizou makes the same movements during that card (the name is something like "Pseudo-Exorcism of the Stupid Shrine Maiden"), so you can learn roughly when you need to go above (and then back below) her. And of course the blue amulets are all aimed. I don't know if the frogs are placed in a controllable or predictable way, and I haven't played the card enough to tell either way. As for the end of the survival, it's a question of making sure you keep misdirecting the birds away from the very center. You have to read where the dogs go on the fly though. If you're gonna move horizontally to help fit between them, do it near the center and don't go very far.

[Zil]

I don't think you can control where the frogs go. They're just what the red bullets turn into, while the blue ones become amulets.

Here's how I do the card. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18027

It works the same way every time as long as you're at 3 or 4 power, and you never have to dodge through blue amulets since you keep going in a circle. When you follow her to the right, be sure you don't go all the way to the edge unless you're sure you will kill her. Goes without saying, but unfocus as much as you can when you aren't under her. Because the amulets are slow, you don't need to keep moving to avoid them; you can focus, move over a bit, then unfocus while staying still.

[Marisa Kirisame]

I don't think you can control where the frogs go. They're just what the red bullets turn into, while the blue ones become amulets.

Here's how I do the card. http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18027

It works the same way every time as long as you're at 3 or 4 power, and you never have to dodge through blue amulets since you keep going in a circle. When you follow her to the right, be sure you don't go all the way to the edge unless you're sure you will kill her. Goes without saying, but unfocus as much as you can when you aren't under her. Because the amulets are slow, you don't need to keep moving to avoid them; you can focus, move over a bit, then unfocus while staying still.

I'll look intot this replay strategy. I hope it helps (Just downloaded it).

Unfortunately, yet another problem has arisen. While I have the survival down good now, 7th Duel: Wild Dessert is eating me alive, I waste a portion of my bomb stock on this card. any suggestions?

[RegalStar]

I usually save my trance for this card, since it's annoying as hell to actually do for real, while none of the spells beforehand are too hard to either capture or bomb through.

[Marisa Kirisame]

I usually save my trance for this card, since it's annoying as hell to actually do for real, while none of the spells beforehand are too hard to either capture or bomb through.

Yeah I tought about it and ended up doing that before I saw this post this morning. I beat her for the first time that same run. (I didn't think it was gonna happen since I had 2 derp deaths early on in the fight. One on Primate, which I tend to cap consistently now, and one on Carnivorous which I ALWAYS cap...)

Now for stupid fun:

Stage portion for the GFW Extra. 

How...just how?

[Zil]

Freeze everything. You can even use one or two bombs and still be at the max for Marisa. If you want advice on every part that would take forever, so I'd just keep practicing and figure out the patterns.
Though I just remembered I already uploaded these two to show how to do one of Marisa's spells, so...
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17901
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17902
Two clears of the stage. One of them, I forget which, is actually a pretty darn good run, with just 2 or 3 deaths or something.

[Marisa Kirisame]

Freeze everything. You can even use one or two bombs and still be at the max for Marisa. If you want advice on every part that would take forever, so I'd just keep practicing and figure out the patterns.
Though I just remembered I already uploaded these two to show how to do one of Marisa's spells, so...
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17901
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=17902
Two clears of the stage. One of them, I forget which, is actually a pretty darn good run, with just 2 or 3 deaths or something.

Well in terms of the stage it's really those Fairies like the ones you first encounter when the stage starts that kil my runs. any idead for those?

And thanks, I'll look at those two for Mari's spells. =D

[ふねん1]

Those fairies do follow a set pattern, and if you can keep up with their locations well enough you don't even have to freeze anything. If you do feel stuck at any point, activate a freeze and don't move too far until you have a good idea of what's safe nearby. I only have this as an example right now.

[Marisa Kirisame]

Those fairies do follow a set pattern, and if you can keep up with their locations well enough you don't even have to freeze anything. If you do feel stuck at any point, activate a freeze and don't move too far until you have a good idea of what's safe nearby. I only have this as an example right now.

I see what you mean about those fairies. I'll give this a shot. =D

[Elysia]

How do I safespot Descent of Izuna Gongen?

[Marisa Kirisame]

How do I safespot Descent of Izuna Gongen?

I wasn't aware there was one. Sorry, wish I could help.

[I have no name]

How do I safespot Descent of Izuna Gongen?

No clue, but in my no bomb run of the stage I think I accidentally did it.  link
Either way I can capture this fairly consistently.

[LeviLamprey]

Thanks for even more help, FLandre, but unfortunately I'm capping all the spells with only Youmu, so I can't emply the strategy for Event Horizon D:.
Still, everything else is really useful!!!!

[I have no name]

Thanks for even more help, FLandre, but unfortunately I'm capping all the spells with only Youmu, so I can't emply the strategy for Event Horizon D:.
Still, everything else is really useful!!!!

I captured it with solo Youmu no focus to see if I could, all i can really say is wait for one familiar to pass by then move up towards where it was to dodge the next.  Blindsides are common, so don't get discouraged

[Seppo Hovi]

Any tips for Tree-Ocean of Hourai? This is the only last word where I feel like I'm going to spend ages of rage trying to cap it.

Okay, I watched your newest replay. I think your death was mostly due to panicking at the end, getting too excited about almost clearing the card.

There is a way to go around that, a way I think I used on my Youmu solo no-focus clear (I cannot remember if I used it or not, really). That is, starting from on top of the familiars instead from the bottom parts. In that way of starting the card, you should be positioned at the bottom when it all comes to a end. And, when you are at the bottom, you should have some room for panicked skipping around, misdirecting the bullets, and finishing the boss off with your Aimed shots.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18065

Or, you can keep on doing the loop.



For Event Horizon, I'd just stick on being under Marisa, moving slightly up when a familiar gets too near. And hoping for a capture. The card won't last long, so you don't have to worry much, just one wave to dodge, then it's over.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=18068

And for some reason, I'm having slowdown at school's computer.

[Marisa Kirisame]

Thanks for even more help, FLandre, but unfortunately I'm capping all the spells with only Youmu, so I can't emply the strategy for Event Horizon D:.
Still, everything else is really useful!!!!

No problem. I help where I can if I can (even if it's not entirely too much. I may not have the Lunatic 1cc notches under my belt like most of the people here but I can still do some things =D.

The startegy for event horizon doesn't change much with youmu here. The only difference is you simply need to keep and eye on your left or right (depending which side the familliars are coming from at the time.) Move slilghtly up and down accordingly.