Author Topic: Magical Madness Mafia Day 5! (Read 89166 times)

capt. h · « **Reply #540 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:23:04 AM »

16 hours left.

##Vote Bardiche

Bard, decide who you want to lynch and ask for claims. Preferably in the next four hours or so, because we want some time to think them through.

Dormio, considering timezones, and that Bard made that case on you, I think you should full claim. Try to give us least 8 hours to think over you claim.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #541 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:01:45 AM »

Rolling to dodge kills brain cells.
Anyway.

@capth: You do realize I've already claimed, right?
I'm Ayumu Aikawa, Townie Zombie. I don't die when I am killed. In other words, I'm bulletproof.

Opinions on everyone from LLD and Rikter would be so nice, wouldn't they?

As for who I would like to see lynched today, Chaore.

#49: He called out ActionDan for misrepping him, but stated that it might have been unintentional.

I dislike his switch from "I guess ActionDan is town because of the confirm" to "ActionDan is scum and PX is a lying bastard" throughout D2.
However, after he said that Dan was scum, in #369 he still wants other people lynched over Dan.
#446, Chaore wants Hero lynched too here for pretty much no reason other than "do not understand what's going on, PX is bastard".
Chaore's entire D3 case on Hero seems to revolve around how Hero delayed giving town information for so long. That so long being less than a third of what D2 should have been had Dan not been hammered early.
In addition, I've noticed that Chaore tries to downplay most attacks on him by simply saying that it was bad but not scummy, or something to that effect.

@Mod: Are we still allowed to talk after Bard is turned into the king, or do we stop and wait for Bard's decision?
I'll vote for bard if we're still allowed to talk.

Hero999 · « **Reply #542 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:05:06 AM »

Why do you continuously talk about "stop talking about killing everyone"?
Its as if your saying this just to make capt.h look bad. Most of what you were attacking me for is a difference in opinion. The only thing that I can accept from your case is the fact that I'm utterly relying on my role, at the moment.

Everything else your attacking me for is seriously not even a reason I can accept to get me lynched for. Therefore, your whole attack on my being is scum intended. Also, I will state again since you apparently did not even see it the 1st time.

Quote from: Hero999 on September 21, 2011, 01:34:14 AM

Also, I like how you say "its not something town will do" is set in stone. This makes it feel more like a difference in opinion then a case.

Also let me state something then. Scum like riding things out and not draw attention. You state this "If anything it also rather hurts as you were able to and did actually mostly ride it out wordless until you swapped to Shadoweh."

Explain to me for what reason did I need to swap to Shadoweh if I was scum. Would I have not just shut up and let you guys do all the work? You explain to me for what reason I had to vote Shadoweh if it would draw attention to myself.

There will always be exceptions. The fact that you are 100% sure that doing something like that is plain -town does not do- is not something I can believe.

capt. h · « **Reply #543 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:12:08 AM »

Dormio - Do you know if there was a reason your death was revealed on Day 2?

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #544 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:15:15 AM »

Because I'm a zombie?

PX · « **Reply #545 on:** September 22, 2011, 01:17:24 PM »

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@Mod: Are we still allowed to talk after Bard is turned into the king, or do we stop and wait for Bard's decision?

Yes

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #546 on:** September 22, 2011, 01:18:49 PM »

##Vote Bardiche

PX · « **Reply #547 on:** September 22, 2011, 01:53:55 PM »

"With kindness comes na?vet?. Courage becomes foolhardiness. And dedication has no reward. If you can't accept any of that, you are not fit to be a Puella Magi."

The Twenty Fifth Home Run Votecount!
Bardiche (5) - Hero999, Chaore, Bardiche, capt. h, Dormio
Lady Lambdadelta (1) - Lady Lambdadelta

Not voting: Zakeri, Rikter

Bardiche has been voted the King. You have until the rest of the day to lynch someone.

Day 3 ends in 12 hours.

Bardiche · « **Reply #548 on:** September 22, 2011, 02:43:34 PM »

... Before I can even say what my plans are...

Well it's super tempting to just nuke one of the lurkers, but I want to hit scum. (even if one of the lurkers may be scum actually)

I've got, so far,
Hero (2): Chaore, Zakeri
Chaore (1): Hero
capt h (1): Lady Lambdadelta
Dormio (1): capt h

And I've not pointed my finger at anyone yet, but am strongly looking in Dormio and Hero's directions. I'm going to read capt h and finish that Hero read, and I am privileged with enough time as far as I understand so that oughtn't be troublesome. Anyone is still a target. Suggesting otherwise is treason, which is grounds for summary execution.

Bardiche · « **Reply #549 on:** September 22, 2011, 07:13:12 PM »

Continuing the Hero999 read, there's this instance that jumps out at me, which knowing that PX is a Bastard Mod promotes us to blindly jump onto ActionDan. Convinced Townie that role shens couldn't possibly interfere with Polaris and that Polaris was a 100% Sacrificial Cop, or Scum quickbussing? I'm not sold yet.

This part here is interesting as Shadoweh claims to have been roleblocked. On a Night a rolecop checks her. It's a shame I don't have an active role and probably won't be informed of someone roleblocking my LOL NO POWERS or we had decisive evidence Hero might be a RoleblockCop. Remember when I said earlier that scum rolecopping me made more sense than Town rolecopping me?

Because I went through a lot of :effort: to try and convince people Dan had to die, REGARDLESS of whatever his role might've claimed his alignment was! I read ActionDan's stuff as preventing me from getting a word in; SPECULATIONS maybe scum don't have daytalk and he was picking his preferred target before going.

Either way, short of hyper bus Bardiche (I admit this is not out of the realm of possibilities), there is no logical reason for Town Hero999 to be Rolecopping me. WIFOM is all you get out of considering the reasons AD mentioned me. What DOES make sense is if scum cannot suffer the vig to live, and similarly they wanted to know whether I had any special abilities.

To me this makes a lot of sense. Please consider.

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@Huh What: I'm suspicious of your claim.

Here, and that's the most you get out of his suspicions post Day1 because the rest has just been a Gotcha game with Shadoweh over her role. This should be taken into context with a scroll up where his vote's still on Shadoweh. Doesn't seem like honest attempts to avoid a No Lynch if you don't argue your preferred target's import over the rest.

TL;DR I'm nuking Hero999 unless OBJECTIONS! arise.

Bardiche · « **Reply #550 on:** September 22, 2011, 07:13:33 PM »

ALSO BE CAREFUL ABOUT POSTING OPINIONS GUYS WE MIGHT CATCH SCUM.

Jesus christ, you're all scum again. ;_;

Chaore · « **Reply #551 on:** September 22, 2011, 07:20:01 PM »

Quote from: Hero999 on September 22, 2011, 11:05:06 AM

Most of what you were attacking me for is a difference in opinion.

are you fucking kidding me. No! You don't get to brush off things you did that are scummy by shouting 'I THINK TOWN TRIES TO USE SERIAL KILLERS AND AVOIDS SCUMHUNTING'. Your defense is basically 'okay i did scummy things but i'm totally town because town doesn't always look like town!' YES, Townies can fuck up and make mistakes and do stupid things. Townies are not perfect model townies that are perfectly set apart from scum, this is NEVER a reason to brush a case aside. You can not present the possibility you are town as a defense. You can present why you are actually town as a defense.

Also 'I can't accept I am being lynched for this' is never a reason to consider a case -scum intended-. Just because you disagree with a case NEVER makes the person on the other side of the case scum. This is one of the very basic tips of mafia. Give me reasons why making this case is actually scum intended that are -valid- or point out how I am actually scum.

@Bard: No objections on this side. I'd like to try and reread to get a second opinion on people, but I heavily doubt anything is going to make me stop wanting Hero dead here.

Bardiche · « **Reply #552 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:28:02 PM »

TIME ETC pls.

PX · « **Reply #553 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:30:49 PM »

5 and a half hours

Hero999 · « **Reply #554 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:07:51 PM »

Just hammer it bard, there is nothing left for me to say.

Hero999 · « **Reply #555 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:27:20 PM »

@Chaore: I admitted my action of completely relying on role as scummy. Actually with how you've been hitting me I don't even know your points anymore.

Anyways, I claimed before and I'll claim again.

My role name is Townie role cop.
Mew Mew Ichigo Momomiya (Tokyo Mew Mew)
I learn point of origin, identity and role name. Colors are a no.

Hero999 · « **Reply #556 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:29:36 PM »

Actually what the bard, Wasn't ActionDan confirmed scum roleblocker?
Your making stuff up now?

Bardiche · « **Reply #557 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:50:51 PM »

oh derp you're right.

Jeez I keep forgetting.

Jeez you guys I hate this game. You're all scum.

(that doesn't change much about the rest though Hero)

Hero999 · « **Reply #558 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:53:09 PM »

I already stated what my reasons were. I got paranoid due to actiondan's mention of bard in his self hammer post.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #559 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:23:59 PM »

I support Crastination
the means I'm pro-*shot*

I feel like I'm letting town down, but I never got around to updating my opinions today. I'll actually make sure to sit down tomorrow during the nightphase and get reads out if I can't find the time to do so in the next three hours or however much we have left. I still want to look over Dormio, and I guess Capt H, though he doesn't ping my radar as much (I keep forgetting he's in this game, still, not sure if that means anything). LLD would also be really cool if she had something else to post besides all she did today, too. She's theoretically been reading this game since day two (right?), so it's weird she didn't have anything except on a single person.

no objections with Hero dying.

Hero999 · « **Reply #560 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:40:35 PM »

What objections would you have?
Its near the end of the day, when do people ever get to find a different target that quickly?

Bardiche · « **Reply #561 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:54:05 PM »

Geez I hate you guys for shoving the responsibility of picking the kill today.

PX · « **Reply #562 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:54:18 PM »

3 Hours remaining.

Bardiche · « **Reply #563 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:55:06 PM »

Aaaaah! 3 hours!

Geez, I thought Lambda was gonna come back to decisively show how capt h was scum.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #564 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:58:45 PM »

Day one.
It's still in Bard's hand to go whichever direction he wants. you could actually come up with a convincing case on scum if you wanted to.
not that I'm certain you'd want to.

Cut: In responce to Hero's post.

Hero999 · « **Reply #565 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:06:52 PM »

I believe I still have a question for you Zakeri.

Hero999 · « **Reply #566 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:07:41 PM »

"Also Zakeri, what happened to your pursuit of Bard? It was dropped so quickly I didn't even see when you just jumped to someone else."

Bardiche · « **Reply #567 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:21:47 PM »

Hero, if you're Town, try to at least dissuade me from dropping it on you; going all "well im dead" isn't going to make people think twice about their decision.

The only thing that's making me still reconsider it is that I DO NOT have a majority backing a Hero lynch, and DO NOT have people bothering to do much. Lurkers everywhere. When I die tonight I hope tomorrow won't see town just waiting it out.

I dislike Lambda for hit-and-run tactics and a hardly convincing case on why Capt H is scum.

Zakeri what makes you uncertain Hero'd want to make a case on scum?

Hero I don't think Zakeri is the scum even if he is the lurks. Please give me some reason to justify to myself that it is indeed unlikely you are scum!

capt. h · « **Reply #568 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:23:32 PM »

Hero, I'd like you to go over your day 2 posts, and explain what you were thinking when you made them, starting with your vote on Action Dan and ending with the lynch.

You can skip the ones after your vote for Shadoweh but before you announce Shadoweh's allignment.

Hero999 · « **Reply #569 on:** September 22, 2011, 11:28:05 PM »

Sheer laziness, Time restriction, and utter role reliance.