Author Topic: Magical Madness Mafia Day 5! (Read 37282 times)

PX · « **Reply #450 on:** September 19, 2011, 01:57:39 AM »

ActionDan (6) - Youkai Jesus, Bardiche, capt. h, Chaore, Rikter, ActionDan
Shadoweh (3) - Hero999, Dormio, huh what
huh what (1) - Zakeri
Hero999 (1) - Shadoweh

Lynch has been reached.

PX · « **Reply #451 on:** September 19, 2011, 01:57:44 AM »

While everyone was arguing around back and forth, nobody noticed ActionDan using his powers to summon up a Pretty T-Rex. Suddenly, the Pretty T-Rex ate up ActionDan! Everyone around immediately started attacking the Pretty T-Rex and brought it down. Unfortunately, Shadoweh was not quick enough to escape from the teetering corpse of the Pretty T-Rex.

ActionDan, playing Pretty Sammy Sasami Kawai (Magical Girl Pretty Sammy), Mafia Roleblocking Godmother, has been lynched!

Shadoweh, playing Magical Girl Fate Testarossa (Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha), 3rd Party Serial Killer, has been lynched!

Night 2 starts now. Send in any night actions to me and Pesco. Night 2 ends in 24 hours.

A rule has been removed.

PX · « **Reply #452 on:** September 20, 2011, 01:41:32 AM »

And so, everyone repeated the process from the last day. They all gathered around to see who was missing. And lo and behold! Everyone was all there! Huh What begins talking.

"So it seems like everybo-"

Suddenly huh what exploded. Into a thousand pieces.

"Uhhh, I think he just died."

"I think he's dead."

"He's very dead."

huh what, playing Prisma Illyasviel von Einzbern (Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya), Townie Jack of all Vigs, was killed during the night!

It is now Day 3!
Day 3 ends in 72 hours.
With 8 alive it takes 5 to be promoted.

A new rule has been added!

Hero999 · « **Reply #453 on:** September 20, 2011, 01:49:00 AM »

Well One person I know I can believe to make town based judgements is
##Vote Bardiche

Chaore · « **Reply #454 on:** September 20, 2011, 01:59:46 AM »

:akihawhat:

We seriously had apparently 3 kills going on the night before and not one of them succeeded. Really.

What the hell.

Hero999 · « **Reply #455 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:00:49 AM »

Could assume all of them targeted Dormio and he blocked them all :V

Shadoweh · « **Reply #456 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:10:15 AM »

Well here I'm lynched again.
It's always such a pleasure.
Remember when you tried to lynch me twice?
Oh how we laughed and laughed.
Except I wasn't laughing.
Considering this role, I've been shockingly nice.

You want your town win?
Take it! That's what I'm counting on.
I used to want you all dead but..
Now I only want you gone~

Also, bah.

GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em · « **Reply #457 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:11:31 AM »

##Nine Lives: Scum

Serela · « **Reply #458 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:23:18 AM »

Everyone is bahposting? Oh hooray~ PX ninjaed mine yesterday like 5 seconds before I hit the reply button with THREAD LOCK >:C

...my original bahpost doesn't look as funny to me anymore. Oh well, BAH

* Serela falls over dead, extremely late

ActionDan · « **Reply #459 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:28:33 AM »

Baaaaaaaaaah! Here rests my eternal soul.
Oh ~ damn italics! I Curse You!
Why did that rabbit take me down his rabbit hole?
Perhaps I can do some good yet, yes perhaps I can.
So I summon you, O balance breaker!
Speak now! And utter a prayer.
Inhabit a townie, and curse him!
Your villiany, once more, do share

THIS IS THE WORD OF THE MOD!
##Evocate: Neoserela

Screw Causality, Seriously.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #460 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:33:26 AM »

@Hero: why are you suddenly voting for Bardiche?

I don't like Chaore anymore after having read through the headache that is D2 multiple times.
If you look at his #369, he tries to defend ActionDan through huh what and he maintains his stance that he doesn't want Dan lynched until people point out that the mod confirmation may have been false.
I mean, it looks to me sort of like Chaore and Dan were relying on the mod "confirmation" to save Dan that day, he tried to keep Dan alive for as long as he could.
In addition, in early D2 he seemed to be adamant in trying to keep the option that I was shot by scum open for as long as possible.

Anyway, I'll be posting again once today's RtD is done.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #461 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:33:50 AM »

I seriously forgot how to play this game.

##Vote Chaore

Hero999 · « **Reply #462 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:36:48 AM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on September 20, 2011, 02:33:50 AM

I seriously forgot how to play this game.

##Vote Chaore

Hey dormio, did you know the rules were changed? Check it up.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #463 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:39:56 AM »

Oh, what.

>Reread day multiple times throughout the night.
>Forget to check new rules when day starts.

I am brilliant at this game.

##Unvote

Chaore · « **Reply #464 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:53:28 AM »

@Dormio: I'm going to admit that was a very stupid thought on my part. Basically ActionDan was completely tied to Huhwhat and I was originally going to go straight for Huhwhat's juggular today because a magical third kill out of nowhere was completely unbelievable. I didn't want to lynch ActionDan because I didn't know if the confirmation was false or PX being a bastard mod or an actual confimation or -what-. This is not something that is inheritly scummy, not everyone is Bardiche who is completely willing to disregard something because there is no logical reason for why X happened. I thought the Confirmation meant something, yes, does this mean I am scum? No, and Idiot? Mayhaps. Also yes, I'm not willing to believe in MAGICAL FUCKING THIRD Kills, and my belief you were shot by scum means ActionDan would be scum. Please think things through a bit before you post them. I'm not even sure you understand anything you just talked about.

Speaking of which, I'm fine with Bardiche as King, thinking it over. ##Vote: Bardiche

I'd like to see Hero lynched today. For someone well aware that there is a serial killer in our mists, he didn't actually seem inclined to secure that serial killer being lynched until well after support for lynching them showed up. Infact, I'm pretty sure your original intention was to pile on the confirmed scum instead of making sure the second lynch was the serial killer you knew. Please explain to me why you waited until the second half of the day to even begin your bloodlust of KILL SHADOWEH, well after others had expressed interest. Wanting to keep the Serial Killer alive for a bit is not townie. Given that's also pretty much the entirety of your Day 2, I'm not feeling happy about you.

Rikter · « **Reply #465 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:54:25 AM »

Dan was asking Chaore before Lynch if they were the doctor it's probably important.

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #466 on:** September 20, 2011, 03:53:29 AM »

Every Mafia day, Im in school. Every Mafia night, Im at home. Since ActionDan is gone, I can forcefully throw away dis newbie pass/guise. Time to lynch sum scum, son. Anyway, posting textwall with opinions soon. If you guys aimed for ActionDan wif me, D1 scum lynch would be go.

This is the most I can type in class on Iphone~

capt. h · « **Reply #467 on:** September 20, 2011, 05:06:07 AM »

I'd like to discourage any more voting. We have a solid 72 hours, and as much as my gut thinks Bardiche is town, I would no more hand over the lynch based on gut than I would lynch a player only on gut. I would like solid reasons for each vote today, just like any other day.

I can?t wait to hear YJ?s cases and scum picks. I?d like to know RIKTER?s scum picks too.

Chaore, I'd like you to explain the reason you didn't like Action Dan's claim when you thought about it.

Quote from: Chaore on September 18, 2011, 11:55:31 PM

No, yep. Flavor just hit ActionDan in the face here. That Rabbit is probably Nyozeka, rabbit companion from Alice 19th.

WELP. I suddenly want ActionDan lynched.

I don?t see what the flavor has to do with anything, nor why the flavor changed your mind about Dan?s ?confirm?. In spite of telling Action Dan multiple times that the mod?s ?confirm? doesn?t prove anything and telling us that you would look over Action Dan and Huh What, you didn't point out anything you found scummy about his play, instead focusing on role shenanigans in that regard. You then pushed a false dichotomy that had it gone through would have confirmed Huh What, and by extension Action Dan, town by suggesting we lynch neither of them and let Huh What confirm his role the next day. Your case on Shadoweh yesterday was also largely about how you thought her role speculation was suspicious.

Actually, your entire play yesterday could be described as role shenanigan speculation. I find it suspicious when it isn't backed by other evidence; while trying to comprehend the setup is essential, it shouldn't take the place of scum hunting, and cases should not boil down to that a player's speculation is rediculous and therefore scummy, or X town implies Y town because of the setup, unless you have other evidence to back it up as well. It lets players impose their will on the interpretation of events on others; as town it leads to bad assumptions such as Huh What town meaning Action Dan town and Action Dan scum meaning Huh What scum. However, scum would want to force and push their interpretation and vote others for disagreeing and being rediculous, especially if the rediculous explanation is true (like a 3rd and even 4th kill).

I'd find you suspicious enough for a vote, if I had one. I would like you to explain how it was the flavor of Dan's confirm that proved the post was fake.

Chaore · « **Reply #468 on:** September 20, 2011, 05:42:26 AM »

Quote from: capt. h on September 20, 2011, 05:06:07 AM

I would like you to explain how it was the flavor of Dan's confirm that proved the post was fake.

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<Chaore> @8ball Keine is he serious.
<Keine-tan> Yes. Sadly.

...? But... It was suggested that the post was not actually written by PX. Flavor is an excellent way of proving that, because if you don't fully understand the flavor you can suddenly get very confused and type something completely wrong, like, for example, the fact that a rabbit that was mentioned is not in fact who the writer of the flavor thinks it is. This 'flaw' of a character becoming something it isn't, is evidence that a post was written by someone other than PX. This in turn confirms that the confirmation is in fact, a phony not written by the mod but a player who doesn't fully understand the flavor.

Literally, the giveaway the post was fake was the flavor not matching up. Thus, ActionDan was given away by the flavor of the post.

It's simple if you don't omit everything leading to this conclusion to make my conclusion seem absolutely random.

capt. h · « **Reply #469 on:** September 20, 2011, 06:08:31 AM »

Alright, I read through the start of day, the "confirm", and your explanation again very slowly.

There is a rabbit in Alice 19th, the show/manga/whatever Polaris' character comes from.

You think that rabbit was the one that confirmed Polaris' death.

Whoever wrote the Mod message didn't know that Polaris's rabbit was not QB, and got mixed up.

Which is why it was actually the rabbit from Alice 19th that "confirmed" Action Dan. Which doesn't make any sense.

K, I get it now. I forgot Polaris was from Alice 19th, so it did seem completely random to me. Sorry about that.

PX · « **Reply #470 on:** September 20, 2011, 06:33:11 AM »

"Welcome to Rokkenjima"

The Twentieth Votecount!
Bardiche (2) - Hero999, Chaore
Chaore (0) - ~~Dormio~~

Not voting: Everyone else!
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to promote.
Day 3 ends in ~67.5 hours.

Hero999 · « **Reply #471 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:30:45 AM »

Chaore, I Think as positively as possible. Everything was going insane, So I decided to be insane. Happy? I was thinking of the possibility of SK being useful, but decided against it.I personally expected myself to be killed, after all, if scum believed Huh What's claim, I believe they would have shot me 1st due to Huh What being unable to do anything the past night and this day. Also, I like how your talking about lynching me specifically. Getting rid of the rolecop? I like your thinking.

Hero999 · « **Reply #472 on:** September 20, 2011, 11:20:26 AM »

Also Let me list this out

Shadoweh > Roleblocked (Possibly by Dan, due to his hammer post.)
Huh What > blocked by BulletProof
Scum >

?

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #473 on:** September 20, 2011, 11:56:42 AM »

You know, I like how Chaore words it to make it sound as though Hero was withholding information from town for such a long time when it was still within the first day of D2.
Reorganizing thoughts on Chaore:

RVS with dice. This is still something I dislike, but is secondary to other stuff.
In your #49, you call out ActionDan for misrepping you, possibly intentionally, possibly unintentionally. Fence sitting?
In addition, in #49/83, you ask people to look at ActionDan but don't actually say anything about him yourself.
From this point on, you ignore ActionDan and don't mention him again until D2.
Which brings us to D2, where your first post is calling for ActionDan to use his "confirmation" power.
When ActionDan gets "confirmed", you try to defend him until other players point out holes in the "confirmation". Then you immediately switch your opinion of the "confirmation" and start shouting for the death of ActionDan.
You also admit that you were trying to setup a scumpair between ActionDan and huh what, one of which has flipped town and also happened to be our vig.
Also, #369. What is this? "I agree with your case that ActionDan is probably scum but we should confirm whether or not ActionDan is really scum by lynching other people first"?
#446. He tries to get our rolecop killed without even a case, he simply says that it's a headache and that the rolecop should be killed along with the others.
And then we come into D3 where Chaore tries to push a case on our rolecop for not telling us immediately that Shadoweh was a SK. The way Chaore words it makes it sound as though Hero withheld this information until the very end of day or something, but the only reason it actually seemed that way was because Rikter placed ActionDan to L-1 so that he could self hammer really early.

On that note, Rikter, why would you place ActionDan at L-1 so early into the day?

And Youkai Jesus, the latest post is not looking very good.
"Hey the person I called scum for almost no reason whatsoever was scum so I'm totally supertown extraordinaire"?
That textwall better be good. :/

[Y]oukai [J]esus · « **Reply #474 on:** September 20, 2011, 01:02:15 PM »

Quote from: Ran Yakumo on September 20, 2011, 11:56:42 AM

And Youkai Jesus, the latest post is not looking very good.
"Hey the person I called scum for almost no reason whatsoever was scum so I'm totally supertown extraordinaire"?
That textwall better be good. :/

Textwall will be good~ But I got lots of crap to settle before I can even begin writing it. And I keep forgetting what I write for Mafia too, so that makes it take an even longer time to type it all out.

And I never said I was supertown extraordinaire :<. I didn't even imply it. Yuassume? Also, didn't I like state-what-Lambda-told-me-to-state-and-why-Actiondan-was-scum thing. Thing?

Bardiche · « **Reply #475 on:** September 20, 2011, 02:32:42 PM »

Gambits everywhere.

I'd propose everyone still ##FOS: Scum so the King doesn't bruteforce his decision. Even now we have no guarantee person X is Town.

Hero confirmed for making a counter-wagon to ActionDan Scum. Huh What and Shadoweh confirmed for initially going against the Scum Wagon, but they're dead, Jim, they're dead.

I'm going to re-read a few choice people and then propose who I want lynched and promoted.

STRANGLY, I'm inclined to vote myself because I know I'm Town but I don't know the same of anyone else. :V

Chaore · « **Reply #476 on:** September 20, 2011, 06:27:48 PM »

Oh wow there is all kinds of wrong with your post, Dormio.

First off, no, you don't get to say 'He changed his opinion when other people made fucking POINTS man, that's scummy as fuck'. That entire bit is literally just dripping with 'said with assumption that chaore is scum'. You're not pointing out why I am scum, you are pointing out what your theoretical scum me is doing at that time. I'm also frowning at you using the fact Huhwhat just flipped town to make the fact I thought there was a good chance Huhwhat and ActionDan were scum together seem inherently scummy. I am literally not the only one who said this, Dormio. It was a VERY possible theory and I could see us having gone into this day lynching Huhwhat instead of believing in magical third kills that don't show up. The fact I believed someone who flipped town was scumbuddies with someone who flipped scum doesn't mean that I'm scum setting up mislynches, It means I was fucking wrong.

Oh you're also blatantly misrepping me on D1- I was asking why Shadoweh was ignoring ActionDan, because it seemed odd and very out of place for her. There was no reason for her to have made that exception and I wanted to know why she made that exception. I wasn't encouraging town to look at him, I was simply asking 'What the fuck is up with this, Shadoweh?'.

Your worst offender is probably touting about how I'm so awful for wanting us to lynch 'Our Rolecop'. I want to lynch the rolecop, not 'Our' rolecop. This again reeks of complete confirmation bias in faultily assuming I am scum and Hero is the town rolecop who you must defend for great justice. He is a rolecop who has claimed and literally has done nothing else the past Day. And...Hero just admitted I was completely and utterly right though? He wasn't trying to off the Serial Killer at first because he thought she'd be 'Useful'. Please tell me how that is anything but the scummiest fucking thing that has ever been typed in Mafia. Your first reaction as town is not 'Hey, we could totally make use of an extra kill at night from the person who wants every last one of us dead', but 'Oh holy shit she is going to kill us all WE MUST LYNCH HER'.

Literally, look at his Day2. Look at how his only statements are 'I don't trust actiondan and shadoweh and also huhwhat's claim looks suspicious btw'. Seriously, He addresses all three on the proposed team as suspicious, even though he knows that the team is probably patently false, does not properly elaborate why he is all suspicious, and then just busts out his 'Oh I have something on Shadoweh let's hop on her' card. He literally gives no actual opinions and doesn't properly explain his feelings, he just says 'YOU'RE SUSPICIOUS', and then throws his vote on the wagon he doesn't have to explain even if asked.

I think he's scum. ##FOS; Hero999.

Hero999 · « **Reply #477 on:** September 20, 2011, 06:34:42 PM »

Alright in school at the moment.

Chaore, I know for sure I am town. Therefore you relentlessly attacking me is something I shall believe to be scum intented. Therefore
##FoS: Chaore

So you can throw your cases and shit out the window, at the moment my motivation for srs business is so low I'm not even going to likely bother with it.

Hero999 · « **Reply #478 on:** September 20, 2011, 06:49:13 PM »

Geh messed up

##FoS Chaore

Bardiche · « **Reply #479 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:08:59 PM »

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Since ActionDan is gone, I can forcefully throw away dis newbie pass/guise.

YOUKAI JESUUUUUUUUUUUUS. You're going to have to explain how Dan's presence made it apparently OK for you to refuse assisting Town. Being a newbie is OK. Going "I was pretending to be a Newbie!" and doing nothing for two gamedays is NOT OK, and it means that any forgiveness for your terrible Day 1 and Day 2 has just been thrown out of the window!

I'm mostly looking at Hero, YJ and Zakeri. This is not related to looking at Zakeri but I feel it is noteworthy.

What is related is his opening post, because he condemns Shadoweh for scum teams in one breath, then proceeds to propose Shadoweh And Friends in the other, going so far as to mire on about how Dormio buddying reminds blah blah.

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Polaris seems kind of avoidy

avoidy - hide. Goddamnit Zak, are you psychic? Either way, light defence of ActionDan, and claims Chaore is scum's intended mislynch despite me being the only one on Chaore at that time. :V

The problem is that like Dan, Chaore gets in the game at a late juncture when all wagons have been picked, and blatantly admits to joining a popular wagon rather than attempting to push his own idea that I am scum. There were 27 hours at least, and I feel that that was enough time to actually attempt to drum up a wagon on the one you think is scummiest. Even if that's me.

That he later sorta kinda tries this here is good, but he suddenly jumps off of Shadoweh and onto Polaris instead. His cases on Polaris and Dormio, his preferred lynches after me, are at that point that "Dormio is hard to read, why are you voting Serela?" and "Polaris seems avoidy and I don't get what he's trying to blame on Dan".

I'd talk about his Day 2 post but there's almost nothing in it. Implied agreement that Dan is Scum, attempt to link Huh What to Dan and push a Huh What wagon up, proposal to lynch three people, and that's it. Nothing that screams Scum, but also nothing I'd find exceptionally worthy of Town.

He's not UP THERE with the Scums but he's certainly not someone I'm happy with.

Hero going OMGUS on Chaore is unimpressive.