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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #150 on: September 16, 2011, 10:42:41 AM »
@Dormio: If it was a misrep, I apologize, however thats how I felt the most about your posts. Your kind of contradicting yourself, you claim you dislike people with a lack of content, however you also say you "forget" they exist...That is something I believe should not be easily forgotten if that is what you hate.

@Shadoweh: Even with your answer I do not like how you question capt.h if you believed J.O.B. to be town. Although my main problem with it is the fact that you passing off that by saying "UK said capt.h turned J.O.B. into scum." as humor disturbs me. You made a good question, but I believe it has the intention of distracting me. Also, you twisting the saying of Try Hard being a town tell is strange, due to the fact that I got accused of Try Hard early last game, and I was scum. So your assumption that Try Hard is specifically a town tell is not something I'm willing to believe at all.

@Bardiche: ...Theres nothing I really see in his posts. Or atleast I can't seem to find anything that really makes me want to look at him more. Or more like I seriously don't find him interesting me at all for some strange reason. >: Except his avatar.

@NeoSerela: I still find it strange that your apparently only okay with voting Dormio. Also, why did you decide to drop Dan to quickly? I dislike the fact that you are completely basing everything on meta. Your dismissal of Dan also sounds more like noise then anything else. Also, why did you feel you had the need to defend huh what? Your post here sounds like an indirect defense of him. Is there any reason for it?
Also, I dislike how you are calling everything we do against you overreacting. This is making us question ourselves which makes us over think. If you did not have 3 people to answer with, why state those 3? You did not believe them all to be likely scum, if so why did you answer with 3 and not just your suspect?

...Screw it I'm not believing any of you till a flip comes in.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #151 on: September 16, 2011, 11:10:37 AM »
It was humor. I thought it was pretty funny. Why do you all hate my jokes? ;_; I believe my question has the intention of you answering me. I'm not twisting anything. Trying hard is something town does. Scum don't have to try hard, they already KNOW everything. Did someone seriously say you were trying hard last game? >.> Because you weren't, and you know it. Don't deny what experience has told you is true.

Your vote reeks of laziness and sitting it down because it's too much effort to find someone else scummy. We're short two voters, we need all the townies here actually analyzing content. Serela gave three names because I asked him to, stop attacking him for answering a reasonable request.


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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #152 on: September 16, 2011, 11:36:15 AM »
@Shadoweh: Huh what seems fine to me now. I honestly can't think of anything suspicious other then the triple vote.

huh what and Serela were cool because their posts flow well and don't feel forced or scum-motivated and are agreeable in general.

Why does Serela's posts seem so agreeable to you? It might just be me but something about Serela just seems off.

As for Dormio you said in post #117 you were going to post why you thought Serela and Chaore are scummy yet you haven't said anything else about this other then "dislike Serela in your post after it.

For me it's a choice between Dormio, Polaris or Serela for me. However i would like to hear what Polaris and Dormio have to say before I decide entirely on Serela. If I don't get a chance before lynch then I might as well vote just in case.

Vote: Polaris

I really don't like how you say Serela is fine and would like an explanation for why.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #153 on: September 16, 2011, 12:16:51 PM »
I disagree that YJ's posts look like they're coming from somebody who has no buddies. There's not enough content to actually be read into at this point. However, I think her choice to jokevote on a decently-sized wagon when serious discussion is going on has scum intent, because she's pushing for a lynch while trying to avoid attention. Even her jokevote being on a "policy lynch" makes it seems like she's trying to blend in with the rest of the crowd. Newbie passes are silly, and on a related note, Rikter would do well to post some scum reads instead of town reads. Newbscum have an easier time generating posts about who they think is town, so I don't think we should ignore the possibility of him as scum before he actually talks about who he thinks is scum and why.

I haven't forgotten about Dormio, but it's hard to actually press him due to timezones, and I'm more interested in YJ right now.

Do you hate me that I'm new? Do you suspect me because I have "scum intent? I have no buddies.
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Posting here before I go to bed.  Looks ugly already.  However,  I agree with Dormio about the RVS votes.  They should be made on the spot and should be largely spontaneous.  I simply don't understand what could have prompted Chaore to post that.  Moreover, the vote on job seems not just to be purely random anyway because Chaore is makes a quip about "Keine-tan's" vote which suggests that voting Job is a bad choice.   Chaore, what do you think of Job right now?   It's clear that you think something about him, or at least about voting him. 

##: Vote Chaore


UP THERE^ He's scum because he's trying to create a scum read by twisting Chaore's intent.

##Vote ActionDan

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #154 on: September 16, 2011, 01:09:44 PM »
Zakeri, are you suggesting a Bard x Shadoweh x Hero scumteam while complaining about Shadoweh making scumteams? ლ(?ロ?ლ) Please tell me "Shadoweh and Friends are trying to distract Town" isn't meant to be scumteam proposals because if so, seriously, what. If you're suggesting Bard x Shadoweh scumteam due to the buddying DORMIO did with SHADOWEH in IRC MAFIA, then doubly 'what'.

Chaore, are you trying to offend me or something? V: I don't feel like a repeat of last game.

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Does he still think that Chaore and Serela are the only people he wants lynched?

Hi, huh what. Good you're asking. This is no longer true in Chaore's case. If I want to sustain my vote on him, I'd have to reach; generally, that's a sign to me that he's not as scummy as I initially thought, and while I still dislike the wording, I guess I really can't cling to that one bit.

Serela is still all kinds of AUGH to me, though. Whether or not it was due to Shadoweh's baiting, providing a list of "Top 3 scum picks" while saying he wouldn't want to lynch them strikes me as odd; this may simply be due to Serela being Serela, but it's still rather jarring that one can provide a Top 3 and yet support none of it. It permits him to jump onto a train easily (and by that point he must have thought me a viable target as he did, indeed, jump onto me) because he "had that as a scum pick". It strikes me now that Serela never deigned to acknowledge that my jump on Chaore was not at all sudden and completely out of left field; do you still think so despite my mention of Chaore before, Serela?

It's lines as these, though:
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I actually don't remember what it is, anyway.
when saying that "capt h's case isn't bad" but following up by saying he pretty much forgot the entire thing doesn't seem like Town attentively looking for scum or anything. You talk down capt h on one of his points, then discard his entire case for yourself as being nothing worth remembering. That is odd, given capt h's case is easily one of the most argumented out there.

Augh, that entire post is terribad and Serela going mea culpa doesn't endear him to me.

##Unvote
##Vote: NeoSerela


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But Bard, aren't you going to look at--

No. Deal with it. IF I HAVEN'T MENTIONED THEM THEY'RE NOT SUPER INTERESTING TO ME.

The post above makes ActionDan interesting, though.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #155 on: September 16, 2011, 01:37:21 PM »
Alright, I'm feeling rather chipper today after a good night's rest.   Time to get on with those reads!

Quote from: Polaris
Hi guys I'm back from school.

huh what vote was a jokevote. I posted at like midnight or something and chose the person that stood out the most.
It's all right now, huh what. You aren't not very cool now.  You're just uninteresting, as always.

##Unvote
##Vote: ActionDan

Dan has the whole "overreacting to Chaore's random vote" thing, but then there's also "I don't feel comfortable with your post" which is kind of an odd (and maybe a little forced) reaction to what was a jokevote. Do you mind explaining? :L

Other views coming soon, maybe.

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I define "jokevote" as "not a serious vote", which makes my vote a jokevote because I didn't seriously believe huh what was scum from those actions. You're trying to force your interpretation on everyone. :/ (Please do not confuse a jokevote with a random vote. I will concede that my vote was not random, but it was a joke.)

Also, I never claimed you were misrepping me. (However, I am claiming now that you are misrepping me for saying that I had claimed that you misrepped me. are you confused yet lol)
I'd like an explanation on how I was misrepping you, however. (And maybe define the word "misrep" in case our definitions are totally differing again.)

The thing is that you are also basing your vote on me on the fact that you believe your vote to be a "jokevote."  How are you not guilty of forcing your interpretation when you say I had an "odd reaction to what was a jokevote" when I did not think that at all.  That should have been clear because I did not simply say "I don't feel comfortable with your post,"  but I asked you to clarify what you didn't like about HuhWhat's posts.  The question would have been non-sensical if I'd only believed you to be jokevoting.  This is the source of why I cried "Misrep!", because you muddled the intentions of my earlier post asking you questions about your "jokevote."

Your lynch is the one I'd like to see happen today because you are the laziest in making cases that to me you haven't thought hard about and that are not forthright or genuine for a townie.   (besides Rikter and YJ, the latter of which immediately makes me want to slap him to a plane of non-existance).

In fact, YJ, have read this game?  The words you used sound copied from Serela, but more-over I've already said that I didn't realize what chaore "intended" with his edit section. Besides Chaore was free to answer my questions directed at him, which consequently cleared up the confusion. 

Holy shit: Bard cut tacitly agreeing YJ.  WTF.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #156 on: September 16, 2011, 01:39:39 PM »
Woah, what the hell it was 4 hours ago I swear.

Anyway, I like Serela's awesome case on me.
There's just something about Dormio that's wrong. I can't pinpoint it. Not even vaguely pinpoint like I did with Bremm last game. It's just lots of little details based on other little details that build up into a scum read but aren't really things that can be put into words without not looking like a case, at all.

...actually, wait a second, now I don't know who to vote :c They're all lurkies or people I'm unsure about or Dormio.

...okay, after rereading again, Dormio is still the only person who I feel good about voting right now :c
So uh, can you at least say what the little things are?

I really dislike how huh what calls my post cheerleading in #137.
Tell me, please, exactly what was I meant to add at that point about Serela when he hadn't posted?
Also, I honestly don't know what you expect from me from #139. I mean, lurkers gonna lurk. They have no content and it's only D1. wat do?

Since people don't seem to understand what I'm saying about Serela, I'll restate it again.
First of all, he's heavily defending Chaore in #68/69. Serela gives the reasoning that "the wagon is terrible" for why he feels the need to defend Chaore, but why would he want to defend Chaore in the first place?
The stuff that happened around #80 also raises a lot of eyebrows for me.
Basically, what it looks like right now is everyone jumping on me because OH GOD I ANSWERED SHADOWEH'S QUESTION EVEN THOUGH THERE ISN'T ACTUALLY 3 PEOPLE I'D LYNCH RIGHT NOW.

This makes me sad ;_;
Why would you list three people then? You even gave reasoning for all of them.
I dunno, Serela's #74~81 looks really bad to me.
And Serela's entire #134 is nothing but waffle. Seriously.
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YJ- "Needs to learn how to bold" (Copied from Shadoweh)
Rikter- You say nothing about what you think his alignment is.
huh what- Looks town and scum, don't know.
capt.h- "Don't remember what your case is"
Dan- "Dan is being Dan"
Dormio- "Something is wrong. I don't know what, but something is wrong."
Opinions where?

Making another post.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #157 on: September 16, 2011, 01:48:15 PM »
"Those who are allowed to shoot are those who are prepared to be shot."

The Return of the Black Knights! The Ninth Votecount!
Shadoweh (3) - Zakeri, Hero999, Chaore, Zakeri
Chaore (0) - Bardiche
Dormio (3) - capt. h, NeoSerela, huh what
ActionDan (2) - Polaris, Youkai Jesus
NeoSerela (2) - Dormio, Bardiche
Polaris (3) - ActionDan, Shadoweh, Rikter

Not voting: Nobody!
With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 ends in ~16.5 hours.

If there is no majority at deadline, then the day ends in a No Lynch. Better step it up.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2011, 03:05:30 PM by Kyubey PX »

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #158 on: September 16, 2011, 01:50:43 PM »
@mod:
NeoSerela (1) - Dormio, Bardiche
Is this an error?

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #159 on: September 16, 2011, 01:54:35 PM »
Holy shit: Bard cut tacitly agreeing YJ.  WTF.
Anything to comment about that other than "WTF"?

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #160 on: September 16, 2011, 02:01:36 PM »
Anything to comment about that other than "WTF"?

What's so WTF about that?

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #161 on: September 16, 2011, 02:17:25 PM »
This is why I went WTF.
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The post above makes ActionDan interesting, though.

And I don't really have anything more to say except it's impossible for me to comprehend why Bard would say this in response to YJ's post which was the absolute epitome of voting laziness.  Bard should come back and explain his word choice.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #162 on: September 16, 2011, 02:28:41 PM »
Polaris (2) - ActionDan, Shadoweh, Rikter
Is this a mistake?

I'm going to school in a few minutes, but will do what I can to sort out which of the other potential lynch targets I'd be willing to see go once I'm back.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #163 on: September 16, 2011, 02:30:46 PM »
How is my vote the epitome of voting laziness? I read through every post about three times now and I got nothing. So earlier Shadoweh got that guy whose name starts with L to help me.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #164 on: September 16, 2011, 02:51:43 PM »
I wasn't suggesting a Shadoweh/Bard/Hero scumteam. In fact, aside from the thing on poking Serela, I don't really think anything Hero's done is bad enough for a vote. Although, I can see where I screwed up the wording.

I'm not holding what Bard did against you. I'm holding it against him. I just put it in your paragraph because your quip about who his three scum are is just noise generating, and that was the noise it generated. Seriously, it seems to have come out of no where. Did you suspect Serela enough that you needed to ask him for alternate votes, or was that also a part of your attack everyone style?

As for why Teams before flips is bad, take this example from Bardiche's Vanilla Mafia: Note the difference between the last part of Polaris's post here, where he discusses scumbuddies and This post here. For those dense enough to not get it, Rou and I picked up on everyone claiming we were scumbuddies of different townie, so we tried to force that feeling more. The basic point is that trying to link two people together gives Scum the chance to get you to tunnel on a townie.

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You need a sense of humor, the joke was about UK calling people who vote her scum.
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It was humor. I thought it was pretty funny. Why do you all hate my jokes?
It wasn't humorous, it wasn't all that funny, and honestly, you needed to put a lot more work into making it look like it was a joke (like at the very least say "Just kidding!")
Seriously, i might just hold this against you for the reason of the game and have it filed under "Lynch all Liars."

Bard just got worse in post 154 above. He Misreps Serela by saying he doesn't support any on his preferred lynches, One of which he was already voting for. The other two he only provided because Shadoweh asked. Serela got caught in a gotcha game, and Bard is milking the point. Also, why is he blantantly sheeping a case that YJ probably made in five seconds? If Shadoweh insists that Trying too hard is a town tell, can we lynch Bard for not trying at all then?

9 cuts, forget this. I've spend ten hours of the second and probably last day I'll get the house for myself in a month trying to wade through this crap.
##Unvote:Shadoweh
##Vote: Polaris

I'll probably spend more time on bard tomorrow.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2011, 02:53:30 PM »
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How is my vote the epitome of voting laziness? I read through every post about three times now and I got nothing.

#1) So the only thing you gleaned out of 150 posts is that I'm scum because I unintentionally misrepped Chaore? 
#2) Your vote is lazy because you can't be bothered to state how I twisted Chaore's intent to create a scum read, which is an utterly preposterous notion that someone can have a scum read by the top of page 2.  As I'm thinking about how redicoulous this is, I realize that I could apply your own logic to yourself.

"UP THERE^ He's scum because he's trying to create a scum read by twisting ActionDan's intent."  That was easy.

#3) If you truely have nothing, what prompted you to vote Shadoweh page 4?  Was it simply that you failed to do so page 2?
#4) If you couldn't tell, "I got nothing" is infuriating.  clarify what you mean by that.  Can you simply not think straight? Does Mafia confuse you greatly? Does it mean you can't decide who is likely scum/town (besides me apparently)?  If its anything but the last question, you should replace out.


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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #166 on: September 16, 2011, 03:08:19 PM »
Votecount fixed. Try doing this at 6:30 in the morning.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #167 on: September 16, 2011, 03:19:28 PM »
#1) So the only thing you gleaned out of 150 posts is that I'm scum because I unintentionally misrepped Chaore? 
#2) Your vote is lazy because you can't be bothered to state how I twisted Chaore's intent to create a scum read, which is an utterly preposterous notion that someone can have a scum read by the top of page 2.  As I'm thinking about how redicoulous this is, I realize that I could apply your own logic to yourself.

"UP THERE^ He's scum because he's trying to create a scum read by twisting ActionDan's intent."  That was easy.

#3) If you truely have nothing, what prompted you to vote Shadoweh page 4?  Was it simply that you failed to do so page 2?
#4) If you couldn't tell, "I got nothing" is infuriating.  clarify what you mean by that.  Can you simply not think straight? Does Mafia confuse you greatly? Does it mean you can't decide who is likely scum/town (besides me apparently)?  If its anything but the last question, you should replace out.

Why are you so mean? Do you hate me or something? I can't think straight for many reasons. And yes, Mafia does confuse me greatly. To an extent that I have to stop the fawk I'm doing and just throw it to the all literally. And sprain my neck at the same time.

1) It wasn't an unintentional misrep. It wasn't even a "misrep". It was twisting his intent to make what he was doing LOOK scummier than it actually was. Something like that isn't done unintentionally.

2)I have stated why it is scummy. You're making something as simple and innocent as a random.org vote into a serious accusation. This is scummy. What is not explained? Also, this point you brought up is an attempt at deflecting.

3)I put a vote down to see what would happen. This was also before I started getting help. I am new at this after all. Also I saw everyone going "QUICKLYNCH SHADOWEH" and stuff like that. I also revoted on Page 4 because when I looked at that update by PX, I was like "WHUTYINOVOTECOUNT?" and reposted. Also I was on my phone in the middle of class. And with the teacher right in front of me, I did what I had to do weally fast. So that my phone no go bai bai.

4)I don't "got nothing" anymore. Your response to my vote by deflecting my pressure and trying to get me to REPLACE OUT is only adding to the original reason I voted you.
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Even though you dislike that I'm voting for you to be lynched, you don't have to be so freaking mean and evil-sounding that it actually pains me to read your posts. And I wanted to replace myself too. You're so mean. But whatever.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #168 on: September 16, 2011, 03:32:19 PM »
I'm ending this conversation immediately.  I do not wish to upset you anymore.  Instead I'm going to get out opinions on HW and Serela.

Don't lynch me.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #169 on: September 16, 2011, 03:36:07 PM »
Bard just got worse in post 154 above. He Misreps Serela by saying he doesn't support any on his preferred lynches, One of which he was already voting for. The other two he only provided because Shadoweh asked.

Really now. Serela went pretty hard backpedaling on that, and you're honestly going to say it's a misrep? Really? You want to pretend he never backpedaled hard the moment he got asked?

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Serela got caught in a gotcha game, and Bard is milking the point. Also, why is he blantantly sheeping a case that YJ probably made in five seconds? If Shadoweh insists that Trying too hard is a town tell, can we lynch Bard for not trying at all then?

The question here is rather, "Why does Serela deign to give answers to Shadoweh?". It's already been shown through his own words that Serela produced a list of top 3 scummy people to him despite undermining how important it is. He states clearly he doesn't want them lynched. He states clearly that he just picked them 'because he had to', and he's clearly using faulty arguments to pick them even. It feels hastily and sloppily done, and if he were Town, why at all would he care to provide such a list eagerly just so Shadoweh might not think him scum?


Anyway, basically, everyone needs to stop being dicks because you're scaring the newbies away, and the newbies need to grow some balls and stop getting upset so easily. Mafia is a cutthroat game of paranoia, so you naturally feel aggressed easier than is actually intended. Replacing out is punishing the mod, not the players. If you truly think someone's a dick, then be a dick back by surviving and getting his goddamn ass lynched for being a scumtard.

Now then. We're getting dangerously close to No Lynch and I am not going to stand for that. I'll look over Dormio/Polaris/Shadoweh cases, but from what I've seen of them I'm not entirely impressed. (Dormio feels wrong but I can't explain it, seriously, Serela? SERIOUSLY?) I'm hoping we'll be getting a lynch today or we're handing over initiative to scum.

Remember when I told you to stop time, Shadoweh? >: If you became a deity overnight by eating MAGICAL CRYSTALS I'd really like it if you'd stop it for a few so we can get together and have a wonderful lynch tonight!

I'll be going out for now, though, so I'll have to lend my weight to a wagon later. If anything I don't think I'll vote Dormio, and I'd vote Polaris over Shadoweh at this stage, but find Serela the superior lynch. This may change on a re-read but now you know where I stand.


I deign not to respond to the Youkai Jesus matter right presently. You're gonna have to wait until later for that. I'm a busy man etcetera.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #170 on: September 16, 2011, 03:47:03 PM »
LLD replaces Youkai Jesus as a mentor hydra. This is the only hydra to be allowed, proceed as normal.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #171 on: September 16, 2011, 06:13:32 PM »
Sadly my only magical girl power has been to eat time, not stop it. I'm not Sakuya this game either. For you, my Bardiche, I would try with all my power.
I will comment more when I return from running across town and losing at poker.


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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #172 on: September 16, 2011, 08:20:29 PM »
Get your own link here! The Tenth Votecount!
Shadoweh (2) - Zakeri, Hero999, Chaore, Zakeri
Chaore (0) - Bardiche
Dormio (3) - capt. h, NeoSerela, huh what
ActionDan (2) - Polaris, Youkai Jesus
NeoSerela (2) - Dormio, Bardiche
Polaris (4) - ActionDan, Shadoweh, Rikter, Zakeri

Not voting: Nobody!
With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 ends in ~9 hours.

If there is no majority at deadline, then the day ends in a No Lynch. Better step it up.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2011, 09:18:06 PM by Kyubey PX »

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #173 on: September 16, 2011, 08:54:08 PM »
Sadly my only magical girl power has been to eat time, not stop it. I'm not Sakuya this game either. For you, my Bardiche, I would try with all my power.
I will comment more when I return from running across town and losing at poker.

:< What I was just joking. Why are you roleclaiming.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #174 on: September 16, 2011, 09:01:24 PM »
...If we don't get our priorities right now I'm quite sure someone will fuck things over and we will end with a No lynch.
Our votes are fucking everywhere.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #175 on: September 16, 2011, 09:17:51 PM »
Chaore has been prodded. There are 9 hours remaining.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #176 on: September 16, 2011, 10:02:55 PM »
Oh. I found the words that YJ's post reminded me of.

Hw's #33 is where I was going to start anyway with why I didn't like HW this game.  Hw's insistence that Dormio was twisting a RNG RVS vote into a scum tell strikes me as opportunistic, especially after claiming that Dormio's could be "the first serious vote scum would make," even though it was the first serious vote anyway, and paves the way for HW's own, 2nd, serious vote.  Although HW grouped me and Dormio as having the same quality of vote, it manifestly obvious that my post was not just "I agree with Dormio," but "I agree with Dormio, but moreover blah blah blah..."

Considering HW announced their were additional reasons to dislike Chaore's RNG RVS votepost, I don't understand why HW choose not to comment on my own additional reason and was content to group me with Dormio.

HW's #53 agrees with the case on Chaore, and quite strongly, judging from " This is not townie usage of one's vote!" but holds back due to wanting more info from Dormio.
Hw had a stronger case on Chaore, as evidenced by the justification for retaining the vote on Dormio, because Dormio's vote "still rubs him the wrong way" which is not an adequate reason to keep the vote on Dormio. 

HW's #84 undercuts his reason for suspicion of Dormio with this "People are suddenly throwing around accusations of tryhard a lot, which I think is silly, because now it's just being used as a buzzword. Trying too hard by itself isn't a scumtell, unless you can back it up by saying why you think the manner in which the player is "trying too hard" is scum-intended. People don't seem to actually be doing this."  But at this point I don't see how HW isn't doing the same thing.  Dormio trying hard to twist Chaore's RVS RNG vote into a scumtell is HW's entire case, and it's flimsy.   This looks like self-advertizing of your own case while trying to discredit others.

HW's #98 makes sense for the first paragraph, but the 2nd is simply circumstantial evidence which attempts to link up to his previous reason for voting Dormio.  I don't particularly care for Dormios scumhunting abilities, but Dormio seems stuck in his ways in such a manner that I simply don't consider scummy.   I don't see why Dormio need mention Chaore when others are clearly more of a priority for Dormio.  It's not like Dormios first vote constituted a hard scum-tell like huhwhat insinuates.  It's not HW can't change his vote on a time either, considering he was content to vote YJ and was free to give opinions on others in #128 without needing to say why his joke was on YJ intead of Dormio besides "I'm more interested in YJ".

HW's #137 makes sense... but HW doesn't vote Dormio until #139 for a throwaway line which could have come from town or scum. 

Basically I'm inclined to believe both votes, the one on Dormio and the one on YJ were vote parks.  I read you as scummier than Shadoweh but less scummy than Polly. 

I'll need to reread Serela, because earlier I didn't like her posts, but recently my gut only doesn't like how unnecessarily verbose they were. 

Don't lynch me.

Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #177 on: September 16, 2011, 10:36:02 PM »
I don't buy into the cases on Shadoweh and Dan. Shadoweh is a town read for me while Dan is just neutral (maybe scum on gut? he has come across as kind of background to me), and I'm not really interested in switching my vote onto either of their wagons. Serela is slightly iffy to me due to the general way he presents himself giving me the vibes of somebody trying to fake acting pro-town, but the cases on him seem to basically revolve around gotcha games being played based on a totally reasonable response he gave to Shadoweh, so I don't agree with his wagon. Polly seems like a rather lazy choice for a D1 lynch, because while I do find it scummy, I don't think that his lack of content has been as absolutely terrible as Shadoweh and co. seem to be making him out to be. Dormio's screwy voting priorities and awkward padding of his posts make him my preferred target, but I'll switch to Polly for deadline if necessary.

Also, Dan's case on me looks like a lot of unnecessary :words: for something he isn't even voting on, moreso to me given that I already know it's wrong. I feel no need to respond to each individual point, because I already know that my response to all of them is basically going to be"that's not how things are or were from my point of view".

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HW's #137 makes sense... but HW doesn't vote Dormio until #139 for a throwaway line which could have come from town or scum.
However, I will respond to this, because it in particular makes me feel like you're just trying to nitpick at me instead of finding valid reasons to believe I'm scum due to lolshotgunattacks. How is this even scummy? I accidentally skipped over Dormio's post and rushed my responses to it because I was still taking in new information. Also, that throwaway line was awful. He claims to be considering going after the lurkers and whatnot but instantly waffles back on it without actually scumhunting in their direction like a townie should. It serves no purpose other than to pad out his post.

YJ's actual content is... ??? at this point, but I feel her ED1 was scummy enough that I would still be willing to grill her for it. She seems unnecessarily overdefense, however, so that raises warning signs. Yawn. I'll ponder this more tomorrow because she's probably not getting lynched today.

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #178 on: September 16, 2011, 11:13:47 PM »
I know you're joking silly. I'm not claiming anything that has to do with this game. Beyond not being Sakuya, who isn't a magical girl anyways.
..Also Poker is tomorrow so I probably will post before then. Shutup I know what day it is!

I'm pretty confident in taking Dan off the list after that last post. I will point out isolation reads tend to make you biased towards seeing everything that person does as scummy. Rereading Serela, I honestly didn't give a second thought to him possibly answering just because he knows I'm town. Maybe that's arrogance on my part. I assume people can actually tell when I sound pro-town and want to cooperate with me. If you've seen what I've said in the past about Serela's mafia style you should understand why I specifically asked him who he thinks is scum.  There might be something to how he says they're not real scum reads, considering I would expect his buddies to tell him to lie and name suspicious townies, and Serela to do a terrible job at hiding that. Mmm. It feels like it would be a crazy vote for the sake of paranoia. I've never seriously voted someone for gut.

I see alot of unnecessary anger being thrown around already. No one wants other players to replace out. You do need to be able to take criticism and people questioning your opinions rationally to play mafia, YJ. Dan doesn't hate you. Overreacting to personal attacks also isn't a good way to play mafia. I disagree with huh what about it being scummy. I think you should stop voting for Dan though and find someone that you are more likely to be voting out of suspicion then out of blind rage. Notably make it one of the wagons with multiple votes so we can get a lynch before time runs out.

You're totally right Hero. Here's an idea, put your vote somewhere useful. A quick glance says Serela, Dormio and Polaris are the most viable options. Get thine self onto a wagon son! Stop loitering. :3


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capt. h

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Re: Magical Madness Mafia Day 1!
« Reply #179 on: September 17, 2011, 12:25:15 AM »
Alright, I would appreciate if Chaore and Hero would move their votes. I don't think Shadoweh's going to get lynched in the next 6 hours.

Don't really like Dormio, but I understand his case on NeoSerela and why he isn't voting for Shadoweh now that he's explained his case again. Want opinions from him on Polaris and Action Dan. Willing to drop him for today. Not thrilled with it, but can be explained by "Dormio being Dormio".

Dan is frustrating, at the minimum. His case on Polaris looks like an argument over what constitutes a ?joke vote,? topped off with a quick ?Polaris is the laziest?. A lot of arguments over RVS: whether using a RNG is scummy, whether Polaris? vote during RVS was a random voting stage vote, etc. Could be Dan being Dan, but still looks bad.

Willing to vote for Polaris. The scummiest lurker in my opinion. He claims his vote on Dan is a pressure vote. Opinion on Dormio is that he?s not an early town read, and that Dormio's awkward. Hypocritical criticism of lurkers, doesn't seem to have strong reads. And as Shadoweh pointed out, this is awful:

huh what and Serela were cool because their posts flow well and don't feel forced or scum-motivated and are agreeable in general.

 
NeoSerela is the waffle king. Says Dan was bad for reacting badly to Chaore?s use of Keine. Then he switches to saying Dan is just being Dan. Says Dormio just feels wrong, but can?t point to any reason why. On everyone else he?s waffled. Rikter is a scum pick, but doesn?t want to lynch Rikter. Doesn?t think my case on Shadoweh is bad, but doesn?t remember it. Says Huh What is town and scum at the same time. Doesn't really have a case on anyone.

Want to lynch either NeoSerela or Polaris. Prefer NeoSerela because I have a more solidified read on him ? Polaris can still change my mind with a good post. Don?t mind a Dan or Dormio lynch since they are being suspicious, but their play could just be themselves.

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Since deadline is at 4 am EST, might have trouble being around for it. Would like to have 2 main wagons by midnight, if possible. Would like talking, more compromise, and more vote shifting.