Diablo Mafia (Prime Evils win)

[Pesco]

Underground Passage Votecount

Barbarian (1.5): Charged Bolt, Coldcrow
Sorceress (2): The Summoner, Ancient Kaa
Rakanishu (0.5): Nihlathak
The Summoner (4.5): Sorceress, The Countess, Corpsefire, Fire Eye, Eyeback
Fire Eye (1): Bloodwitch
Bloodwitch (1): Barbarian
The Countess (2): Rakanishu, Bremm Sparkfist

Not voting: Beetleburst

14 alive, 6 votes to lynch.
48% time remaining.
Beetleburst will be replaced in 3 hours if there is no activity.

[DiEnd]

Corpsefire's latest post looks a lot better than what he put out earlier on, though seems like it has a lot of padding to me. I think I'm willing to pass my initial read of him off as ED1 now that he's actually posting clear opinions, which is more than Sorceress and The Countess can say for themselves. I don't think he's particularly townlike, but it's good enough to push him into my neutral reads.

Bremm, did you ignore what I said about wanting you to clarify your priorities? It still seems like you're just posting late and going for the targets everybody is going for in an attempt to blend in. Like Coldcrow asked, do you really think all the main wagons are scum?

I still don't understand why the Summoner has 5 (or rather, 4.5) votes. His recent content has improved significantly, and the weird unvote -> vote Sorceress looks more like Townies Are Weird And Sometimes Impatient than a scum play to me. People keep pointing it out as if it's "odd" but I'm not sure how that actually makes it scummy? His wagon in general irks me a lot, and I feel that a lot of the people who voted early on it (mainly Sorceress and Countess) are just trying to cling onto it based on their early positions without actually taking his recent content into account. Fire Eye is the only person on the wagon who was sensible about his vote, IMO. I'd like it if the people on the Summoner wagon would explain why he's worth voting over the other players they suspect, because I'm really not seeing the case as is.

@ MOD: Countess has 3 votes from 2 people on the recent votecount. Is this an error?

[pesco]fixed[/pesco]

[Ryuki]

This sounds like an answer to a question that was never asked at you. Something about that just rubs me the wrong way.

I'll wait and see how Sorceress responds before voting her, but let me read some more and catch up on other people.

Because I'm still waiting on Sorc to respond, not much stands out to me right now, and it's better than leaving my vote floating around. And added pressure wouldn't really hurt now, would it?

Alright, let's get today started!

It's a beautiful morning!

This post feels wrong. First off, it's worded like an answer. Second, it's an answer to... what question? Third, the fact that it's an answer instead of a question. Defensive stance. Know who likes to play defense more than scumhunting?

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10667.msg704797.html#msg704797

You read the game to come out with... a FOS? And voting me simply because I said "Bandwagon!"? Just because I didn't state reasons doesn't mean I didn't have reasons to join the bandwagon. And the vote wasn't suddenly random out of nowhere. And your scummy reads don't explain WHY they're scummy. Care to elaborate?

misleading us as to what he thinks (when he voted Sorceress then claimed he thought she was town)

Just... what? Seriously? Just... Wow. I'm just suppressing my rage right now at all that has happened.

Everyone I don't mention is either
1) Town
2) Uninteresting
3) Not worth talking about now as it'll just add noise.

Sorc looks scum, no opinions, the vote is parked on me, but the lynch isn't happening, and it looks like it's quickly becoming not me vs me (unsurprisingly yet again)

##Unvote
##Vote: The Countress

I'm not even angry
I'm being so sincere right now
Even though you broke my heart and killed me

Cut by Kaa

[DiEnd]

Damn it, Summoner, we still have roughly half the day left! It seems rather odd that you're going into ~DEADLINE PANIC MODO~ and giving up your desired lynch when the game is not even approaching the end of the day yet.

[DiEnd]

Also! I want to know how high the possibility of Coldcrow and Raka supporting the Sorc wagon again is at this point. Perhaps predictably, I'm not very happy that the wagon on my preferred lynch seems to be dying out completely. It's possible I'm just tunneling, but I definitely don't feel like Sorc should be in the clear at this point.

[Ryuki]

You can't really blame me for going into panic. Eyeback's vote was going to put me at L-1, but the votecount said otherwise. And with MotK's activity levels recently.... Well, it might as well be close to deadline.

[DiEnd]

:shrug:
I'd rather not give up on the Sorc wagon just yet.

Also, if you're at psuedo L-1, shouldn't you claim? Beats dealing with roleclaims at the last minute.

[Pesco]

Dark Wood Votecount

Barbarian (1.5): Charged Bolt, Coldcrow
Sorceress (1): Ancient Kaa
Rakanishu (0.5): Nihlathak
The Summoner (4.5): Sorceress, The Countess, Corpsefire, Fire Eye, Eyeback
Fire Eye (1): Bloodwitch
Bloodwitch (1): Barbarian
The Countess (3): Rakanishu, Bremm Sparkfist, The Summoner

Not voting: Beetleburst

14 alive, 6 votes to lynch.
35% time remaining.
Beetleburst will be replaced after confirmation from the player filling in.

[Ryuki]

Sorceress (3): Ancient Kaa

[pesco]Votes this game are confusing. Deal with it[/pesco]

[Kabuto]

Posting to say I Exist!!!!!

Give my an hour to read over the game and get a proper vote in!

[Den-O]

This game this game this game this game.

I really don't feel like reading, but I guess I have to, don't I? Anyway, the Countess thing is that I'm getting a weird affronted townie vibe from her, and she might just be incredibly awful at this game. Admittedly, every time I see her use the word misrep my blood pressure rises and I'd like to strangle her in three or four colorful ways, because, you know, I NEVER FUCKING MISREPPED HER FOR FUCKS SAKE AND SHE'S SO FULL OF SHIT HER EYES ARE BROWN

Ahem, rather, if I understand correctly she says I misrepped her stance on Corspe but I feel I have adequately explained that, even if she's too blind/not processing the game well enough to see it.

Anyway, catch up:

Summoner 121 is basically things that have already been said. You're probably town but seriously, can you come up with something on your own?

Countess 125: "I have stated my reads somewhere in all of my opinions very clearly. Generally either at the beginning or near the end." Your lack of reads, you mean. 4 people are neutral. One is town. One is scum. Not ONLY that, but the "logic" that lead to your reads is contradictory and meandering, even on your SOLID reads. So no, you haven't stated reads. You threw out something you thought would look good and are trying to coast on it. Changed my mind again, you're scum. And you're trying to use the misrep defense (in and of itself a misrep) to beat us off you rather than doing the townie thing and finding scum.

Fire Eye 130: That's because I made the post in a hurry. Summoner is kind of bothering me now but her wagon is SO FUCKING AWFUL I refuse to believe she's scum.

Bloodwitch 134: GOOD OF YOU TO PLAY. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Really?

##Unvote, Vote Bloodwitch
POST SOME FUCKING READS OR DIE!

THIS, my friends, is active fucking lurking.

Kaa 137: Nihthilak, much like Bloodwitch, except slightly less badly, is active lurking. He's acting like he's posting reads but he's not posted ANYTHING that let's us conclude his stances. Whereas, you know, everyone else in the game HAS. He's trying to coast. Also, his "case" on me is pretty fucking terrible but I'll leave that out of my ~*~formal case~*~.

Countess 139: I want to strangle you. Please, just DIE.

Countess 143: Is a pile of AtE. If I "Misrepped" you, how about you explain it or possibly even link where you've explained it if you're sooooooooooo tired of repeating yourself.

OK, I've decided. WE'RE FUCKING LYNCHING BLOODWITCH. I would like you all to vote him now. Countess is pretty awful, as is Sorceress and Nihiwhatthefuckever, but Bloodwitch is the WORST.

[Den-O]

Oh, and this better be good, Beetleburst, I didn't forget you.

[DiEnd]

I don't think what Bloodwitch is doing is indicative of her alignment.

She's a REALLY AMAZING target for a vigilante, but not a good target for a lynch. Lynching her at this point would just be the same as throwing everything we've done today away and lynching on policy, and would most likely bring us back to square one tomorrow even with her flip. This would be okay if she was so overwhelmingly scummy we had no excuse not to lynch her, but I don't believe that's actually the case. I don't want to see her survive to LYLO, though, unless she starts picking up her game.

[Den-O]

...dammit, you're right and I know it too.

##Unvote, ##Vote Countess

Then Countess dies. SUMMONER IS NOT A GOOD LYNCH, YOU PEOPLE!

LOOK AT THE PEOPLE ON HER WAGON. LOOK AT THEM!
"The Summoner (4.5): Sorceress, The Countess, Corpsefire, Fire Eye, Eyeback"

Do you REALLY want to support a lynch THOSE PEOPLE want? No, you don't. Think for a damned second.

Bloodwitch needs to be fucking shot in the face tonight. She's making me pop blood vessels I didn't even know I had by being so bloody USELESS!

[DiEnd]

Ugh, I guess I'm definitely not getting my Sorceress lynch at this point. Time seems to be dwindling away, and I'm not even sure I'll be around for deadline, so here goes nothing.

##Unvote
##Vote The Countess

I feel that she has been unnecessarily overly-defensive and has failed to improve her stability even after repeated questioning. The Summoner wagon is horrible to the extent that I don't understand the cases of half the people on it, so I would rather not see its lynch go through.

[Faiz]

The more I see other people's recent posts on Summoner, the more I don't like the wagon.  People saying vote wasn't telegraphed, yet he did show intent to vote me in post #51.  Not liking Countess misrep either.  And then Kaa's latest post... uh... did you seriously just push for a claim on someone whose wagon you don't like and is still at least 2 votes from lynch?


Corpsefire post clears up my biggest problem with him, and I don't find anything too terrible with it.  Summoner himself I'm feeling better about, especially after what I posted up above.  Countess isn't looking any better (Make up your fricken mind on me already!  Misrep on Summoner I already mentioned).  Nihlathak I still don't like, obviously nothing has changed.  Bloodwitch needs to stop being a derp.  Gut thinking something's amiss with the early Raka/Kaa buddyup+Kaa's post I mentioned up there makes my opinion of him drop considerably.

##Unvote
##Vote Countess

[Faiz]

EBWDP:  "Kaa's latest" being #156

[Pesco]

The Hole Votecount

Barbarian (1.5): Charged Bolt, Coldcrow
Rakanishu (0.5): Nihlathak
The Summoner (3.5): The Countess, Corpsefire, Fire Eye, Eyeback
Fire Eye (1): Bloodwitch
Bloodwitch (1): Barbarian
The Countess (5): Rakanishu, Bremm Sparkfist, The Summoner, Ancient Kaa, Sorceress

Not voting: Beetleburst

The Countess is at L-1
14 alive, 6 votes to lynch.
30% time remaining.
If a lynch is reached, no more vote changes will be counted. Consider the period as Twilight until I post the results.
Bloodwitch has requested replacement. Awaiting confirmation from filler.

[Den-O]

Countess, as Pesco has said, is at L-1.

CLAIM. Now

[Kabuto]

Oh, and this better be good, Beetleburst, I didn't forget you.

And I thought I'd be forgettable this game!

Ok I read/skimmed every post and as much as I tried to read for understanding I can't do better at the moment than a few GUT =D reads.

First since everyone is at her throat, I do not think the RAGE AND CAPITAL LETTERS! coming from Countess's posts are faked.  As was first mentioned by that electric imp raka, Countess's first post was wafflely up the wazhoo, but my gut tells me it wasn't scum-waffle but more like overly indecisive town trying best they can to get out opinions that at that point in the game where those opinions are being mulled over by a town mind-set asking "is this REALLY indicative of scum-intent or town-intent?" 

Although he is a prominent wagon, with less than enviable characters on it, The summoner is someone I simply didn't like from reading his posts.  Granted I need to take another look at them, but the voice in my head thought they are weak, not in the way of being apologetic or condesending to town's will, but weak in the way that I don't think he has taken a serious effort to communicate effectively, for I could not grasp much from his posts.

Corspefire seemed not to have put much stake in this game so far, and I think that doesn't read well.  Of course here I am throwing stones being abismally late to the game, but reading Corspefire simply does not trigger any sympathies.

Ok well these are all GUT =D reads as I would like to reiterate once more.  As Far as where my efforts will go in the near future, I will read The summoner and the Countess comprehensively since one of the two seem destined for a lynch.

Oh and just sayin', I think Raka is town this time around  :3 

 

[Kabuto]

Color me curious:

##Vote: Bremm Sparkfist

This Vote has nothing to do with my reads. 

Sorry, but would it be possible for an additional votecount?

[Decade]

Okay! Here.

Jesus, now I remember what it feels like to play mafia when you're unavaliable for huge chunks of time at once.

Now I can finally remember that oh hey Nih is scummy. Bloodwitch posting again and failing to say absolutely anything takes her from lazy player to active lurker as Raka said. I'd be a -little- disappointed to lynch her though as utter lack of anything from her makes her a pretty lousy D1 lynch information-wise, and on Day 1, it's pretty goddamn important for the sake of D2 to get info out of your D1 lynch.

-Insert period where Barbarian leaves to go with people to a grocery store for a significant amount of time, and these points get stated by other people along with lots of cuts.-

Welp. Okay then. Time is running low, and after I go to bed, I am most likely -not- going to be able return by deadline with any more then a quick skim of the topic when I wake up, before I have to run out the door. I've voiced the pepole I currently see as bad (Although honestly, I've barely managed to skim most of the recent posts yet... x_x), now it's time to decide between the wagons since :not-returning-before-deadline:

-Insert period where he struggles to remove pizza from the oven, gets wrangled into conversation with people and kept away from computer, then has to catch up with online conversations he missed while gone, AUGH-

This post has officially taken several hours to try to make despite very little of that time actually being spent making it. The hell... gdi

I don't think Summoner is as bad as some people say, but I don't like him much either. I'd pick Nih to lynch over him, but that doesn't seem like a possibility, plus Nih is a big lurker so far himself... sigh. Way too much lurking this game right now.

...okay I'm going to eat pizza, and so I don't just get cut 10 more times by the time I make my post, I'm going to post this. Expect a post soon about Countess and which wagon I'd like to get on, and it's probably the last you'll hear from me today.

[Punch Hopper]

Time flies when you're lynching scum.
Actually none of you want to look at my target. A shame.
Late now but I would have agreed to a Sorceress attack if it had picked up.
As it stands I would put my .5 on Countess. L-0.5 is overkill for now.
Who is Summoner? Uninteresting to me.

[Decade]

I'm tired, but if I take any longer I'm gonna fall asleep and end up not posting at all.

Okay, I reread Countess again and sure gutting town on her still k time to sleep

##Unvote ##Vote Summoner

I feel horrible that I don't even have the slightest kind of actual case on this other then GUT =D and weak explanations but the best you'll get from me right now is a play with skeleton puppets made from the bodies of my slain foes that will still keep me up late enough that I'd be a zombie tomorrow :C

* Barbarian collapses into a snoring heap

[Sasword]

Confirming that I'm replacing in.
Give me a few hours to skim the game and post some initial thoughts.

[Pesco]

Black Marsh Votecount

Barbarian (1.5): Charged Bolt, Coldcrow
Rakanishu (0.5): Nihlathak
The Summoner (4.5): The Countess, Corpsefire, Fire Eye, Eyeback, Barbarian
Fire Eye (1): Bloodwitch
Bremm Sparkfist (0.5): Beetleburst
The Countess (5): Rakanishu, Bremm Sparkfist, The Summoner, Ancient Kaa, Sorceress

Not voting: None

The Countess is at L-1
14 alive, 6 votes to lynch.
22% time remaining.
If a lynch is reached, no more vote changes will be counted. Consider the period as Twilight until I post the results.

[OOO]

Geez, if you guys are going to put me at L-1 then at least wait till I'm here.

I am a Vanilla Townie, well pretty much. I'm basically a more flavorful Vanilla.

I will get on to other stuff soon.
Also I have to leave in about 2 hours. So I won't be here.

[OOO]

Okay.
@Coldcrow #147:
Her latest post at that time was bad for all of her questions on me. I felt I had answered those questions already and it seemed to me as if she too wasn't reading the game. Also the rest of her post gave me a bad gut feeling.

@Bremm #149:
Summoner didn't telegraph his vote. He stated he was going to wait before deciding to vote on Sorceress and then votes her immediately after (well, maybe not immediately but you get the point). Sure he did throw some suspicion on her but he should've stuck to his word and waited instead. But he just followed the bandwagon.
I thought those people were neutral but those reads were if I had to pick a side.

Also, wow Raka, Kaa and Sorceress all voting me three in a row.
SCUMBUDDIES LYNCH NOW!!!!!!!!!

And all the people who have recently been getting gut town reads on me are awesome and have good guts.

[DiEnd]

Can you explain your flavor (without quoting the mod)?

[DiEnd]

Also, is Vanilla Townie your actual role name?