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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #840 on: August 15, 2011, 04:15:03 AM »
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #841 on: August 15, 2011, 04:22:51 AM »
(Then again mostly furries make OCs so)
So many things wrong here that I don't even know where to begin. >.>

But yeah, it's hilarious to see Mr. Small Name Big Ego go on like that.  Yep, it's definitely plagiarisim, it couldn't possibly be that someone came up with a very, very vaguely similar idea on their own, not at all.
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #842 on: August 15, 2011, 04:37:52 AM »
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #843 on: August 15, 2011, 04:49:37 AM »
On a tangent...
Damage tests. The results may surprise you compared to the trial.

Umm... This isn't shameless self promotion!

(Back to the previous topic, we're probably goinga see some random idiot draw a loli and be like "ZUN COPIED ME! HIS CHARACTER IS A GIRL WHO FIRES BULLETS AND LASERS EVERYWHERE")

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #844 on: August 15, 2011, 04:58:35 AM »
Hmmm...the answer to stage 5 midboss card seemed to be
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minimal movement
. I wonder if I apply it to the other ones.

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #845 on: August 15, 2011, 05:04:20 AM »
that one is the chara who i was talking about. :3
Question, is this person the one who came up with the roku concept, or he just claiming that ZUN stole the roku idea? I'm kinda having a hard time buying he's the one who made it right now.

[edit] That's what I get for typing when I just woke up... >.>;
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #846 on: August 15, 2011, 06:11:52 AM »
That Zun plagiarism claim is absolutely ridiculous. The only thing similar is the tail, the leaf, and the brown hair. In the case of the first two, that's what a tanuki is generally depicted to have. It's like saying that Chen was a ripoff of Coku because she has cat ears and twin tails. Also tanukis are brown, so brown hair is a given, and the hair style must be purely coincidental.
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #847 on: August 15, 2011, 06:15:28 AM »
Is there a Vsync patch out yet? Playing with the custom.exe does NOTHING for my horrible framerate...


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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #848 on: August 15, 2011, 06:56:03 AM »
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #849 on: August 15, 2011, 07:03:19 AM »
Huh...is it just me, or is this story...foreshadowing of a larger plot arc? I haven't read all the scripts and don't intend to until the English patch is out, but reading the newly translated extra backstory,
Spoiler:
Miko's resurrection is causing an uproar in the youkai world for reasons unclear to me, and they're summoning powerful outside youkai like Mamizou to prepare a defense against her.
This is also the first time in the entire series that
Spoiler:
the story wasn't entirely resolved by the end of the extra stage. In fact, it just seemed to further my suspicions that Miko is going to play a larger role than just being the catalyst for the next game's events.
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #850 on: August 15, 2011, 07:05:59 AM »
Huh...is it just me, or is this story...foreshadowing of a larger plot arc? I haven't read all the scripts and don't intend to until the English patch is out, but reading the newly translated extra backstory,
Spoiler:
Miko's resurrection is causing an uproar in the youkai world for reasons unclear to me, and they're summoning powerful outside youkai like Mamizou to prepare a defense against her.
This is also the first time in the entire series that
Spoiler:
the story wasn't entirely resolved by the end of the extra stage. In fact, it just seemed to further my suspicions that Miko is going to play a larger role than just being the catalyst for the next game's events.
PLOT ARCS THAT SPAN MORE THAN ONE GAME. IT'S A FIRST.

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #851 on: August 15, 2011, 07:11:54 AM »
Spoiler:
Miko (or one of her followers?) do say something about annihilating the youkai, which I presume is radically different than the usual gensokyian 'extermination' that happens on a regular basis.

She's not a nice girl. :derp:
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #852 on: August 15, 2011, 07:29:02 AM »
Indeed...interesting.

And, you want to know something that may or may not be relevant? PMiSS contained a section devoted to describing species that had yet to make an appearance in the series. Such wonderous species as kappa, the eight million gods, celestials, and now
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hermits
and divine spirits have all made their appearances in games now. The only one left?

Dragons.

ZUUUUUUUUUN. What are you planning in that drunken head of yours? I am suddenly quite excited to know the future of the series. :3
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #853 on: August 15, 2011, 07:54:28 AM »
Spoiler:
I don't like this trio.

Seiga deceives her family (by faking her own death) in order to train to become a hermit; and while she does become one, she reached her goal on malicious terms, and Heaven doesn't accept her. Miko goes through her life pursuing immortality because she doesn't like that humans are fated to die. So, Seiga finds her and she takes up taoism, in which one of the fundamentals is that you get rid of the fear of death and desire for life, or rather, not going towards the goal of immortality. She tries to cheat and ruins her body while achieving superhuman powers.  Futo, who belongs to a family of powerful shintoists, practiced taoism in secret and later met up with Miko. The three of them (well, Seiga only suggested the plan, she already was a hermit) plot to have Japan ruled by buddhism to keep Japan passive so that they alone can achieve immortality, and Futo manipulates a powerful political faction to become followers of buddhism. So now a religious war starts, the emperor dies of an illness and suddenly woahshit it's the shintoists' faults. Buddhism rules the country and tons of people die, all because these three want to become something of gods. Miko, having ruined her body, doesn't think she can wait long enough to become immortal, so she cheats again by becoming a shikaisen. But first, because she's a pussy, she tells Futo to die with her. Futo goes "oh ok I can be immortal too" and they get ready to fall asleep. Miko fakes it so she can watch Futo to make sure that she won't actually die if she falls asleep, awesome friend, and then she goes ahead. Then the buddhists build a fucking temple on her grave because they're pretty sure she was a manipulative bitch. Miko goes "oh well I guess I can just resurrect when I can take advantage of my awesome skills to lead the people", but whoops, after a while people stopped believing she existed and her grave winds up in Gensokyo, whereupon Byakuren builds another fucking temple. So now Miko's pissed and resurrects so she can get rid of everything (i.e. youkai) that keeps her from being supreme leader of all humans.

what a bunch of bitches
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #854 on: August 15, 2011, 08:08:59 AM »
Spoiler:
I don't like this trio.

Seiga deceives her family (by faking her own death) in order to train to become a hermit; and while she does become one, she reached her goal on malicious terms, and Heaven doesn't accept her. Miko goes through her life pursuing immortality because she doesn't like that humans are fated to die. So, Seiga finds her and she takes up taoism, in which one of the fundamentals is that you get rid of the fear of death and desire for life, or rather, not going towards the goal of immortality. She tries to cheat and ruins her body while achieving superhuman powers.  Futo, who belongs to a family of powerful shintoists, practiced taoism in secret and later met up with Miko. The three of them (well, Seiga only suggested the plan, she already was a hermit) plot to have Japan ruled by buddhism to keep Japan passive so that they alone can achieve immortality, and Futo manipulates a powerful political faction to become followers of buddhism. So now a religious war starts, the emperor dies of an illness and suddenly woahshit it's the shintoists' faults. Buddhism rules the country and tons of people die, all because these three want to become something of gods. Miko, having ruined her body, doesn't think she can wait long enough to become immortal, so she cheats again by becoming a shikaisen. But first, because she's a pussy, she tells Futo to die with her. Futo goes "oh ok I can be immortal too" and they get ready to fall asleep. Miko fakes it so she can watch Futo to make sure that she won't actually die if she falls asleep, awesome friend, and then she goes ahead. Then the buddhists build a fucking temple on her grave because they're pretty sure she was a manipulative bitch. Miko goes "oh well I guess I can just resurrect when I can take advantage of my awesome skills to lead the people", but whoops, after a while people stopped believing she existed and her grave winds up in Gensokyo, whereupon Byakuren builds another fucking temple. So now Miko's pissed and resurrects so she can get rid of everything (i.e. youkai) that keeps her from being supreme leader of all humans.

what a bunch of bitches

something wrong smells in the reign of Gensokyo, and no are chesse. i smell
Spoiler:
HOLY WAR.

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #855 on: August 15, 2011, 08:28:56 AM »
What's a
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shikaisen
? There's nothing about it on wikipedia and most google searches are just giving me is anime and Touhou links.

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #857 on: August 15, 2011, 08:52:38 AM »
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Hermit
here you will redirected to wikipedia to the chinese vercion of the word...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_%28Taoism%29#Baopuzi
wo  Koakkuri was more fast than me XD

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #858 on: August 15, 2011, 09:12:18 AM »
story
I ... think I might like this trio. The story sounds pretty cool, and the characters are more
Spoiler:
villain-like
this time.

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #859 on: August 15, 2011, 09:17:09 AM »
Try
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Shījiě xiān

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_%28Taoism%29

Thanks. :D

I have to say though, that sounds like a rather horrid existence. It sounds like being a felon of practically life itself. @_@;

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #860 on: August 15, 2011, 09:30:26 AM »
Good synopsis Drake.

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So yeah the religious factions in Gensokyo are getting interesting. Two shinto, one buddhist, and now one taoist. I would think Miko's faction isn't particularly threatening, since several heroines suggest Futo wasn't hard to beat. Meanwhile, Byakuren's faction just keeps getting bigger, she got two new members without even appearing in this game. Having Miko get them all riled up could get very messy!

Speaking of Byakuren, I'm sure Kanakers is pretty annoyed that right after she arrives in Gensokyo to gather the faith of the youkai, Byakuren shows up and does a better job of it (and it was her own fault Byakuren was unsealed lol). Has Kanako commented on the situation in any of Sanae's endings?

And Reimu just keeps being Reimu :V

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #861 on: August 15, 2011, 09:38:50 AM »
When's the extra stage bug going to be fixed? That bug just ruined a perfect run for me.

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #862 on: August 15, 2011, 12:01:07 PM »
As has been said many, many, many times in this thread already: bugs in full releases are usually fixed pretty quickly.

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #863 on: August 15, 2011, 12:18:05 PM »
...

Speaking of Byakuren, I'm sure Kanakers is pretty annoyed that right after she arrives in Gensokyo to gather the faith of the youkai, Byakuren shows up and does a better job of it (and it was her own fault Byakuren was unsealed lol). Has Kanako commented on the situation in any of Sanae's endings?

And Reimu just keeps being Reimu :V

Actually, I'm more concerned about Suwako myself. If you've read the wiki on the new characters,
Spoiler:
there's a Moriya member who gets offed over political thanks to Soga. That's if Suwako's family name is related to this Moriya clan.

Either way, this isn't looking very pretty...

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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #864 on: August 15, 2011, 12:19:46 PM »
Spoiler:
Then the buddhists build a fucking temple on her grave because they're pretty sure she was a manipulative bitch. Miko goes "oh well I guess I can just resurrect when I can take advantage of my awesome skills to lead the people", but whoops, after a while people stopped believing she existed and her grave winds up in Gensokyo, whereupon Byakuren builds another fucking temple.
I just reread the whole thing and laughed my ass off at this part for some reason :getdown:
So where does
Spoiler:
Tojiko
fit into all this ?

Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #865 on: August 15, 2011, 12:32:27 PM »
I just reread the whole thing and laughed my ass off at this part for some reason :getdown:
So where does
Spoiler:
Tojiko
fit into all this ?
Quote
Spoiler:
She served Miko together with Futo, but she was denied resurrection as a human due to her previous connections with Futo. It would be more convenient for Futo to deal with her as a spirit.
The Soga and the Mononobe had fought long and hard over Buddhism, but Futo and Tojiko's relationship is still in good terms, and took on a give-and-take nature.
Now, they both hate Buddhism.

Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #866 on: August 15, 2011, 01:12:52 PM »
in Gensokyo to gather the faith of the youkai, Byakuren shows up and does a better job of it (and it was her own fault Byakuren was unsealed lol). Has Kanako commented on the situation in any of Sanae's endings?

IIRC, in one of Sanae's good endings,
Spoiler:
Either Kanako or Suwako note that people are happy with Byakuren's temple but says she doesn't trust Byakuren's temple and that they'll have to keep an eye on it.
.  I could be wrong, it's been a long time.

Wow, but I wish I could read the endings to this game.  Most of the time you can infer the endings for the most part (just assume that it's a happy ending) but this time I really wonder what the heck happened at the end of all this.  Even the extra story prologue doesn't really indicate what the final resolution was, although it does confirm that
Spoiler:
Byakuren already knew about them, which is why she had the temple built there in the first place
.  Course, Futo and company figured that
Spoiler:
Byakuren already knew, too, which is why they called her the dark lord, lol
.  The most I could gather from the extra story prologue was that
Spoiler:
Miko's still alive and her "house" is still around, since Marisa wants to rob it
.
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #867 on: August 15, 2011, 01:53:33 PM »
The most I could gather from the extra story prologue was that
Spoiler:
Miko's still alive and her "house" is still around, since Marisa wants to rob it
.
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #868 on: August 15, 2011, 02:08:30 PM »
You know, I pointed out the
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new charas are quite evil[/spoil] thing a few pages ago, but no-one noticed.  :derp:
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Re: Touhou 13: 東方 神霊廟 ~ Ten Desires (It's out! Beware of spoilers!)
« Reply #869 on: August 15, 2011, 02:43:19 PM »
Am I the only one who's getting owned by Stage 5 with a Youmu run? I can end up doing a good no death up until I reach stage 5 and...
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Zig-zag arrows, spiral circles bursting into blue shards that flip downwards, fireball screen spellcards
all end up taking all my lives (maybe even 1 or 2 continues...)