Author Topic: Genius of Sappheiros revival thread (Read 180765 times)

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #780 on:** February 05, 2012, 09:29:13 PM »

Do you have the English patch applied before you update?
If that's the case, then you should use the original, untranslated pak files, then replace the 2.08 ones with the patched ones.

teefa85 · « **Reply #781 on:** February 05, 2012, 09:31:10 PM »

No, I don't have the English patch on yet. I can play it just fine and in Japanese if I use what I have, but when I use the update patches I get a Windows message telling me that it has to close.

Serela · « **Reply #782 on:** February 05, 2012, 10:59:16 PM »

Ahhh... spamming subquests after beating Expansion is nice because, now that you're all leveled up and equipped with great weapons, most of the non-brutal stuff can be tackled with little to no Growth/Accessory switching >.> Makes it faster and easier!

I wonder if I'll actually get any of my characters to 99.

homing curvy laser · « **Reply #783 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:12:39 PM »

OH GOD the game doesn't lag anymore! :3 Even with the translation patches! :3 I even felt like starting a new game to see how beautiful it is when I'm not getting 1 FPS after playing for too long, and every battle is so hilariously easy now that I know about the game. Then again, I'm not sure if the Remi/Nitori battle only felt that easy because Nitori insisted in spamming Water Chaser. What? Does Remilia even have water attacks?

Quote from: teefa85 on February 05, 2012, 07:05:41 PM

I had a problem patching the game. I clicked the link in the first post of this thread and downloaded the patch linked from the other thread, but when I replaced my game and image packs the game no longer plays, either in AppLocale or from the Genius of Sappheiros directory...it looks like it's gonna play but doesn't load. Thankfully, I do have a backup on my external harddrive to replace with, but still don't know what I did wrong. Note that I don't even remember what my version is, cuz I patched it months ago, though I can check on my external if needed.

I had to wait a minute or so for the game to load and stop being a black screen after installing 2.07, so that might be your problem. Try waiting a bit (of course, considering you updated it properly).
Also, are you sure you're using the right patch? The old translation ones (and boost drop/learn rates) don't work for 2.08.

teefa85 · « **Reply #784 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:14:51 PM »

I'm using no other patches besides official ones. If I wait, Windows just closes it on its own (I'm playing on Windows 7 and it happens even in Compatibility Mode).

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #785 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:17:42 PM »

That sounds a lot like the same problem I was having when I first started trying to play.
Except in my case it was just plain crashing.

You might have got a bad install, or didn't install/patch correctly.

teefa85 · « **Reply #786 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:22:11 PM »

I'm thankful I keep a backup on my external harddrive so I can keep putting it back on the system; even if I can't update it and get the English patch working, at least I can play because the game's fun (I love grinding and building characters).

If I'm installing the patch wrong I can't figure out how, seeing as the stuff's all in Japanese and question marks. Since the problem would be patching in that case, as it's playing 2.06 just fine.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #787 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:26:55 PM »

Did you try running the save converter? That could be the problem.

teefa85 · « **Reply #788 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:42:27 PM »

What's a save converter?

Vilkni · « **Reply #789 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:48:00 PM »

Look in the saves file, there's a save converter. It should be there if you did the 2.08 patch. They included the file because 2.07 changed the engine so old saves made in previous versions no longer work UNLESS you use the save converter.

trancehime · « **Reply #790 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:49:42 PM »

Quote from: teefa85 on February 05, 2012, 11:42:27 PM

What's a save converter?

Ver2.07 came out with a save data converter that allowed your 2.06 files to become compatible with 2.07/2.08

teefa85 · « **Reply #791 on:** February 06, 2012, 12:02:58 AM »

Thank you all for your help. It's running correctly now. I'll try patching it with the English translation the next time I get around to putting my external hard drive in, just so I re-backup the game at 2.08 before trying. I knew if I asked other people, I could find a solution.

Now I'll have more inspiration to play the game again, which is a good thing; I was just after getting Satori and was leveling her before taking on the Netherworld.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #792 on:** February 07, 2012, 08:52:01 PM »

Well, now that Youmu's gotten several levels, her SP totals are actually respectable.
And she has the non-card versions of her spellcards, which are very nice. (Basically, the stuff she uses as a boss. :V)
And so far, the Kashasetsu works quite nicely. It's no 2H sword, but it's pretty damn useful.
I mean, Slayer: Youkai/Undead? Hella useful in Netherworld/Muenzuka/Higan.

Starxsword · « **Reply #793 on:** February 08, 2012, 03:36:26 AM »

Youmu does a lot of damage, so she's usually more of a boss killer.

teefa85 · « **Reply #794 on:** February 08, 2012, 09:12:05 PM »

Especially since she needs a turn to set up before unleashing her attacks. It's a waste on smaller targets that can be wiped out by smaller means.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #795 on:** February 11, 2012, 12:23:47 AM »

Well, her SP costs currently are 1, for her stances. And 4, for the skills.
I'm not really using the spellcards, because they need bombs, and I'm better off saving those for bosses.
So I use the noncards for randoms.

Starxsword · « **Reply #796 on:** February 11, 2012, 03:44:34 AM »

She's good to use for randoms, if you run into strong randoms. She is more effective against strong randoms, because of the set up
time she needs. But if you spam and farm, it is better to use Marisa, Patchouli, Satori, and Nitori to do chaser/AoE elemental spam.

teefa85 · « **Reply #797 on:** February 11, 2012, 04:45:50 AM »

Yeah. I know I've wiped out large groups with just Marisa/Patchy/Nitori already...getting Satori some elemental skills and upping Nitori's number of chases would make a real big mess of the enemies.

Feonax · « **Reply #798 on:** February 13, 2012, 08:44:43 PM »

On what floors of stage 27 do those Seraphim dudes appear in, again? I ran into one a while ago and had to flee from the battle, and now I'm geared up to take one down and I've been looking for them for an hour but can't find a single one.

Vilkni · « **Reply #799 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:36:22 PM »

Well, looks like I was right on this game getting a few more patches:

http://www.gensoukyou.org/bose02/update.html

Seems like they're busy fixing the game for now. And yes, that is 2.09.

homing curvy laser · « **Reply #800 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:41:37 PM »

Looks like it only fixes the fat land power thing and reduces the VRAM usage during the epilogue.
There are still quite a bit more bugs listed on the wiki, but who knows if those will ever get fixed. There are two that have been there since 2.00, for example.

teefa85 · « **Reply #801 on:** February 15, 2012, 12:50:48 AM »

If that's all it fixes then I'll just wait another patch or two. Seeing as I'd have to reinstall and backup my save file, then reinstall the English patch every time there's an update.

Raikaria · « **Reply #802 on:** February 21, 2012, 09:50:42 PM »

I just started playing this game.

Started by getting Mokou. I wasn't willing to waste an hour to get Byakuren.

Beat up Mei- I mean China :3

Then got through Stage 1 no problems.

Stage 2 was also easy, but took quite a while. Against the bosses, Aya's Sleep Beak procced 2nd turn on Nitori. Although I used the wrong immunity to counter Red Magic, Reimu, Sanae and Mokou got Charmed... Mokou instantly snapping out before getting whacked by Goheis.

Still, took Remi down, and Nitori was rudely awakened from her snooze and quickly beaten.

Then proceeded into Stage 3, where I proceeded to get lost. Still, my new party, Aya/Sanae/Mokou/Sakuya/Patchy is very effective, especially with Nitori as a commander. We basically started to curbstomp everything in the forest after Patch got more than 4HP, and Aya got Tengu Support, includeing Alice. It's wonderful wiping out large mobs instantly due to an Aya/Patch combo boosed with Nitori's commander bonus to elemental damage. Not sure why I've heard most people don't use Aya.

Sakuya's single target damage is insane.

Started Stage 4, where I've hit over 900's with Sakuya when Claymore's Slayer is applicable. Those poor Hell Serpents.

I get the feeling I should make room for Alice, probobly in Mokou's slot. But right now PATCHY NUKE is killing pretty much everything. Especially since most the mobs in stage 4 seem weak to Water.

Serela · « **Reply #803 on:** February 21, 2012, 10:04:31 PM »

Quote from: Raikaria on February 21, 2012, 09:50:42 PM

Not sure why I've heard most people don't use Aya.

She's got really low mp and eh damage, and her status infliction gets vastly outclassed by others pretty soon; the only things she remains useful for is being a blinktank, or manipulating ACC/EVA/turn order, or breath reflection. Those are things that DO come in handy, but not a whole lot of the time. Turn order manipulation isn't worth a slot before long, outside of specific situations (Yukkuris, certain bosses, grinding with a very specific skill in Expansion)

As for getting Byakuren, you can just leave the game on in the Myouren Shrine while you go do something else (LEave the house, watch tv, sleep, etc) and it'll work out fine.

Lastly, two -important- tips. First, crafting materials are going to be -VERY- limited, so try not to craft items that you aren't going to get a big help-out from. Second, make sure to change out your party for each new stage. Level doesn't matter too much after awhile apart from learning skills, and underleveled people will gain bonus exp, but you DO want EVERYONE to keep from getting too behind in level. They are all needed at some point or another. There are also party-split stages, which are a thing.

LeviLamprey · « **Reply #804 on:** February 22, 2012, 06:47:37 AM »

I have also just begun my romp through this purportedly insane RPG~
And I have to admit, I really do love it!
I'm not finding much use for Byakuren at the moment, but I've been working on evening levels before I attempt the majority of Stage 4, since MP is annoying to replenish...
I'm in love with Sakuya's Claymore Slayer effect.
Etc. etc. etc.
I'm amused by Reimu's propensity as a nuke over a cleric, though.

Aba Matindesu! · « **Reply #805 on:** February 22, 2012, 12:42:46 PM »

Quote from: Raikaria on February 21, 2012, 09:50:42 PM

Started by getting Mokou. I wasn't willing to waste an hour to get Byakuren.

Spoiler:

Raikaria · « **Reply #806 on:** February 23, 2012, 12:26:30 PM »

Beaten up to Chapter 5 now.

The chapter 4 bosses were a pain, and I died a couple of times. In the time where I did beat them, Alice was killed early, and turned into a zombie on the turn one of the bosses died.

I used Sanae's status remover on Alice, and all was well. Thanks for ressing my party :v

Screw MegaFlare.

I fell over laughing at the derpiness of Okku and Orin... especially after the fight, where Okku is literally just lying there with a look on her face which translates to 'derp~uggu'

Stage 5 was a joke, and so was the boss [Beat her first time. The only difficulty came from her switching into fire mode, and using a fire attack, before I could reverse the feild effect I had set earlier eith Patch. She OHKO'ed Sanae, the rest of the fight was easy, even without Sanae healing].

The only mildly annoying things there were the Mind Flayers and Horus Guards. Mind Flayers I just focused on killing, and used Sanae's RES buff if there were multiples, and I outright ran if a Horus showed up, seeing as my squad was somewhat magic based.

teefa85 · « **Reply #807 on:** February 23, 2012, 02:50:01 PM »

I remember having Mokou as my Commander for the Orin/Okuu fight in hopes of getting some reviving in, then realized she only had three bombs and I couldn't use her 3 Commander Bomb to avoid Megaflare for a turn. I tried again with both Reimu and Sanae keeping the party alive and got so lucky that both of them got their Last Words (Sanae's buff protected the party a lot and Reimu's had come at a time when I really needed healing). Then Mokou didn't use any bombs and was able to use her skill to keep us from dying while we dealt the finishing blow.

The only problem I had with Satori was completely spacing out and not realizing she'd switched fields to Earth...then getting petrified. Otherwise she was easy enough.

Raikaria · « **Reply #808 on:** February 23, 2012, 07:20:45 PM »

Quote from: teefa85 on February 23, 2012, 02:50:01 PM

I remember having Mokou as my Commander for the Orin/Okuu fight in hopes of getting some reviving in, then realized she only had three bombs and I couldn't use her 3 Commander Bomb to avoid Megaflare for a turn. I tried again with both Reimu and Sanae keeping the party alive and got so lucky that both of them got their Last Words (Sanae's buff protected the party a lot and Reimu's had come at a time when I really needed healing). Then Mokou didn't use any bombs and was able to use her skill to keep us from dying while we dealt the finishing blow.

The only problem I had with Satori was completely spacing out and not realizing she'd switched fields to Earth...then getting petrified. Otherwise she was easy enough.

She never even got the chance to switch to Earth against me. She just used Fire, and then Lightling, and then Fire again.

teefa85 · « **Reply #809 on:** February 23, 2012, 10:02:48 PM »

Yeah, sometimes it can be down to how your luck goes (though doing the right things allows you to deal with any and all situations that come your way). When I went back to fight the next time, she never used Water or Earth on me...