Author Topic: Genius of Sappheiros revival thread (Read 180771 times)

Trickster-kun · « **Reply #600 on:** December 20, 2011, 01:44:07 AM »

I really get the feeling I had so much unnecessary trouble with Stage 14's boss fight... I tried and retried it in over two hours worth of rage, controller-tossing and ice-cream-eating. BUT I finally beat it. :derp:

...

Then it crashed. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--

Quit, came back in like three hours, took me far less tries. I just got so unlucky with bad attack chains and the fact that most of my stuff was on CD, so I was like 'k all I got is Parrar, cross fingers'-- then BAM. :ohdear:

But I finally made it out alive. >: Moving on to 15, and starting to feel like I'll have to get everybody up to speed again soon. Grinding like a madman awaiting...

Saber Nero · « **Reply #601 on:** December 20, 2011, 03:14:15 AM »

If you're talking about Tenshi, she does have a few heavy attacks. I forgot what I used, but I do remember beating her in less than 6-7 turns or so. I think I blasted her with 5-6k magic spells.

Starxsword · « **Reply #602 on:** December 20, 2011, 03:23:12 AM »

Heh, I think that fight was the first time I used Alice in a boss fight. I think I used Spectrum Mystery to beat her.

Serela · « **Reply #603 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:13:32 PM »

Quote from: Starxsword on December 20, 2011, 03:23:12 AM

first time I used Alice in a boss fight

first

FIRST?

Oh god what.

Alice is just too good for me to not abuse in bosses :V Especially with a formation like Poison Shield. Heck, that's super awesome to use on randoms too.

Drake · « **Reply #604 on:** December 20, 2011, 10:50:06 PM »

So do we have a thing about Devil of Decline yet?

http://www.gensoukyou.org/category/maroku/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rILaVNgsP00

Saber Nero · « **Reply #605 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:42:34 AM »

I'm definitely going to be trying that out. And since it'll be out during my winter break, I might be up for a bit of translating as well. I've finished all of my other projects anyway.

Starxsword · « **Reply #606 on:** December 21, 2011, 04:00:37 AM »

@Serela:
Yeah, I don't use Alice that often in my boss fights, I just use whoever is available at the time.

RegalStar · « **Reply #607 on:** December 22, 2011, 04:22:35 PM »

Is there a place where I can find monster formation data? I would like to know where I can encounter certain stuff with highest frequency (like say, I have to run around the first map of stage 8 and that map only if I want to find those sunflowers that have the best seed dropping chances)

Serela · « **Reply #608 on:** December 22, 2011, 05:21:03 PM »

Not really, unless it's somewhere on the jap wiki that I don't know about. It can very by the part of the room itself that you're in though, I think.

RegalStar · « **Reply #609 on:** December 22, 2011, 05:50:54 PM »

Anything within the files themselves?

Serela · « **Reply #610 on:** December 22, 2011, 06:47:19 PM »

Uhm... no idea.

RegalStar · « **Reply #611 on:** December 22, 2011, 07:25:31 PM »

How do I open the .pak files anyways?

Starxsword · « **Reply #612 on:** December 22, 2011, 09:25:45 PM »

I don't know, you might have better luck asking this at the touhou projects section of this site. That or maybe someone will see your
question and answer you.

Paper Conan · « **Reply #613 on:** December 24, 2011, 09:33:25 PM »

So I finally have this game .

Patched it up to version 2.06 (though for some reason, the game's window still says ver. 2.00) and added the English patch.
Unfortunately, it crashes every time I finish choosing my moves in the first battle of the game or when I select the Growth option in the menu.

I've been running the game with Applocale, Windows 95 compatability, and as the Administrator. Help?

Serela · « **Reply #614 on:** December 24, 2011, 10:12:14 PM »

If the game's window still says 2.00, then that means the patch did not work for whatever reason, and this would be your problem (Crashing when the game tries to use a move is a symptom of not having 2.06)

You'll have to remove the english patch (It won't patch to 2.06 if you have the english patch on) and... well, iunno, try to patch to 2.06 again I guess?

Paper Conan · « **Reply #615 on:** December 25, 2011, 12:21:51 AM »

Quote from: Serela on December 24, 2011, 10:12:14 PM

If the game's window still says 2.00, then that means the patch did not work for whatever reason, and this would be your problem (Crashing when the game tries to use a move is a symptom of not having 2.06)

You'll have to remove the english patch (It won't patch to 2.06 if you have the english patch on) and... well, iunno, try to patch to 2.06 again I guess?

After a lot of wasted time, google translating, and uselessly excessive research, I finally found my problem! I haven't been able to successfully patch the game because I've been pressing xxxxx(C), or the cancel button, without letting the game patch. :derp:

Eye am a motherfucking GENIUS. Finally, I'll be able to play Lingering Summer Heat. :manlytears:

edit:
Oh, never mind. The game (now fully 2.06 English patched with Windows 95 compatibility, Japanese Applocale, and ran as the administrator) decides it's totally cool to freeze when anyone is going to do a danmaku/spell card attack. I'm fine. It's not like I wanted to play this game or anything...
:X

Saber Nero · « **Reply #616 on:** December 25, 2011, 01:10:29 AM »

Lower the settings to 16 bit, or simply turn off attack animations. Though honestly, that is pretty much one of the main points of playing...

Starxsword · « **Reply #617 on:** December 25, 2011, 02:10:39 AM »

Quote from: Paper Conan on December 25, 2011, 12:21:51 AM

After a lot of wasted time, google translating, and uselessly excessive research, I finally found my problem! I haven't been able to successfully patch the game because I've been pressing xxxxx(C), or the cancel button, without letting the game patch. :derp:

Eye am a motherfucking GENIUS. Finally, I'll be able to play Lingering Summer Heat. :manlytears:

edit:
Oh, never mind. The game (now fully 2.06 English patched with Windows 95 compatibility, Japanese Applocale, and ran as the administrator) decides it's totally cool to freeze when anyone is going to do a danmaku/spell card attack. I'm fine. It's not like I wanted to play this game or anything...
:X

I heard that people have problems running it in Japanese Applocale. Change your system to Japanese locale.

Paper Conan · « **Reply #618 on:** December 25, 2011, 03:38:27 AM »

Whoops, problem solved. All I had to do is run absolutely no compatibility mode.
brb, having some fun. :]

Saber Nero · « **Reply #619 on:** December 28, 2011, 02:38:02 AM »

So I'm sitting at my desk looking at my list of things to farm in Sappheiros....and I'm not gonna do it. Seriously, here's what I have left to get:

- All of the penultimate gear. I've only farmed enough character specific materials for Sanae, Nitori, Aya, Youmu, Lithos, and Patchouli (and I'm talking up to 48 basic character specific materials for each person!). There is no way I am going to do this for the other 11 characters.
- All of the random materials associated with the penultimate gear (irons, steels, rocks, etc.). I haven't even made a Kusanagi Sword yet.
- Satori skills. Probably easier than it sounds, but annoying nonetheless.
- Power levels. I'm still at around 80ish in terms of it.
- 5000 more youkai kills to even get the recipes for the penultimate gear.
- Level 99 for all characters. The characters I'm using the most are already mid 90s, but some are still below 80.

:getdown:

Note that if I actually do manage to get all this stuff together, chances are pretty high that I'll manage to complete all of the above at generally the same time. But I'm already sick of farming and the battles are no longer fun. So I'm just gonna go for it and clear the game before Decline of Devil comes out.

Starxsword · « **Reply #620 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:54:45 AM »

That sounds like a good idea. I think there is plan for a separate patch of some sort to up the drop rate and learn rate of stuff. The
drop rate is just horrible in this game. I have close to 25k kills and I'm not even close to getting what I want.

Serela · « **Reply #621 on:** December 28, 2011, 12:20:46 PM »

I'm going to assume you're talking about all the pre-ultimate gear (Since penultimate would only mean the one right before the final; e.g. adamantite and orichalcum gear that you have to use to make the ultimate). Yeah I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would farm to make all that because it takes an obscene amount of time with absolutely no reward other then "Oh cool my item encyclopedia is a little more filled out"

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- 5000 more youkai kills to even get the recipes for the penultimate gear.

I'm assuming you mean the 15000 kill stuff? TBH saying penultimate here is only confusing :V Yeah I'm -barely- going to reach 10k by the time I finish the game, and that's even with all the unneeded farming and extra kills while doing subquests and stuff that I really didn't need. It would be cool to reach 15000 but if I do it's only going to be because "Well it's a rainy day lets jump on GoS and kill some things for 20 minutes or so" happened a whole lot.

And one or two people on Pooshlmer wonder why I insist getting every single item even with a drop rate boost patch is unrealistic. GoS is a game where you get the important stuff and forget the rest (Except maybe if you get lucky) because it isn't worth the obscene amounts of time it'd take to get, with little to no reward in return.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #622 on:** December 28, 2011, 07:09:02 PM »

Yes I was talking about 15000. Making posts near 3 AM isn't good for the lingual part of the brain :V

The only reason I even got to 10000 mobs was because of all the grinding I did before the final boss in the first game, and all the farming for character materials I did after. And the drop rates really isn't the issue for me. I found that after getting all the character specific gear, chances are high that I would have gotten all the iron and steel I need for all the gear as well. My problem is the time involved to do some of the character material quests and the insane overall costs of making all the gear. Unless the drop rate becomes high enough (say at least 20-30% for drops that were originally 0.1%), I can't realistically see myself getting the motivation to grind this game out for another 3-4 days.

On a side note - how big is stage 24? I've basically been clearing all the mobs and aimlessly running around, but it seems all I'm doing is running into another huge section of the map with more and more enemies.

Serela · « **Reply #623 on:** December 28, 2011, 11:04:48 PM »

Is that the sunflower field? I think so. Almost the entire map is irrelevant to actually clearing the stage; you just need to figure out the right place you're supposed to go to, which is actually near the start if I remember right.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #624 on:** December 28, 2011, 11:53:08 PM »

Yeah I made a map from scratch like I did for stage 8. The boss was ridiculously easy, due to the fact that Reimu has such a slow cast time with Aether Spray. Aether Spray > Fantasy Heaven or Hell > Paschal is incredibly deadly in these types of battles.

Starxsword · « **Reply #625 on:** December 29, 2011, 11:20:03 AM »

Well, here is something kind of funny I found out a while ago. During the expansion, you will see Kaguya playing video
games. If you want in front of her, she gets angry. I don't think anything happens, but it is interesting.

@Syanas:
I highly doubt that after getting all character specific materials you will have enough common materials. Even though the drops are
0.1%, I managed to get several of those drops. I have 4 five inch nails and 3 millenium mushrooms mostly from random drops, but not enough
common materials to use them with.
The sad part is I STILL don't have the item I am looking for in stage 21. I may just give up and advance further in the game... I am trying
to look for the Drake Scale and maybe Obsidian armor.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #626 on:** December 29, 2011, 06:33:45 PM »

Honestly I'm not sure, but I seem to get plenty of iron, bamboo, steel, and rocks when I go through dungeons looking for the bosses.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #627 on:** December 29, 2011, 09:48:13 PM »

Hina is so rage inducing. Not because of her barriers, but because of her ability to one shot any 2 people in my party in a given turn with that Pain Bond. I have star resistances to Dark for almost every character, and a maxed out light field gauge, and they're still taking over 1500 damage.

Starxsword · « **Reply #628 on:** December 29, 2011, 10:07:23 PM »

Yeah, I think Pain Bond's damage is based on HP lost and the damage is HUGE. Good thing you can Reflect it. Satori can use her Reflect
thing every other turn, so you are safe every other turn.

EDIT:
One possible advice is use Cirno in Poison Shield formation, she has the Reflect spell that lasts for quite a while.

Saber Nero · « **Reply #629 on:** December 29, 2011, 10:20:51 PM »

Little too late for that. Just took a bit of trial and error and raeging at my moniter.

On a side note, is getting a weapon from Hina normal after beating her?