Genius of Sappheiros revival thread

[Serela]

Okay, final boss crash finally fixed, hooray!

I basically have to get a Sanae Last Word in order to get past the second phase. Eep. Well, with how long the buff on it lasts, this isn't too bad.

I moved Alice into the second party. My first party now has Sakuya tanking! She takes very nearly as little as Alice (Gave her a Raiden Ring for Mad Thunders, everything else is physical!). I have to have Sanae's RES buff and Permanent heal, but that's fine. Very important thing to note; SAKUYA CAN HEAL HERSELF EASILY WITH SOUL SCULPTURE. This is important because Sanae has much more important moves to equip then her non-bomb heals, and Sakuya -will- take enough damage to need some healing now and again, unlike Alice who probably needs zero to one heal in phase 1.

Also, I seriously recommend sticking to using Water/Elec weaknesses in the final boss and not Fire. The fire-weak girl (Are we using their names or what, well *Shrug* anyone who knows, knows) takes the least damage by a little, plus having active Water land makes Fire seriously do LESS damage then Elec/Water. It's better to just keep land active on water/elec and ignore Fire, plus this leaves room for Marisa to take both the weak, strong, and Spellcard stardusts for elec/water, which is very nifty.

[Anima Zero]

Got Yuugi today.  She was a complete joke once Byakuren debuffed her AGI/DEX & power.  Sakuya's ax which I got in the stage Yuugi resided in had a slayer effect against her, but more importantly, it had another effect of causing the ACC down status, meaning  Yuugi hit with maybe 5-10% of her attacks.  Said 5-10% of her attacks did 0 damage because lol debuffing her ATK.

Damage was dished out by Reimu & Patchy pretty dang quickly.

Ended the day by doing the Nazrin side quest twice to get enough Gold to make a +5 bombs accessory.  Been wanting that for awhile.

Tomorrow, will try to finish getting the last few characters back into my party.  Marisa & Alice I don't forsee too many problems with, Satori I just have to rush her down before focusing on her "pets".

Youmu & Yuyuko...oh dear, oh dear.  I get to deal with Yuyu's instant death hijinks again.

[Barrakketh]

Youmu & Yuyuko...oh dear, oh dear.  I get to deal with Yuyu's instant death hijinks again.

Hopefully you got the Shinigami formation from Komachi, lest you end up like chefmkt.

[Serela]

Okay.

If I got SOMEWHAT LUCKY, then I could beat the final boss without any grinding at all.

Having Mokou at 58 or so would help a good bit, as giving Auto-Life to everyone would be a lot better then Super Duplex Barrier. Youmu at 60 -might- be better, but my Slash Of Eternity's don't miss and did very comparable damage to Pascal Moon Slash or whatever it's called that I saw in a video, so. I suppose it'd at least be best for finishing her off with.

[Anima Zero]

All characters recruited now.

Youmu & Yuyuko...took 2 tries.  Probably a good idea to actually equip death resistant accessories on top of using a formation that gives resistance to instant death and not just one or the other.  Doing that, I had no trouble with this fight.  Yuyu even felt like pulling a major dingbat move and using her LW during the fight...only to fail at hitting anyone with instant death.  Nice job there chief.

Also nice is debuffing Yuyu's MDef (Just like the first fight, heh), then watching Patchy's spells do like 2-3x their normal damage.

Marisa & Alice...not really a challenge when I debuff both character's Atk & MAtk.  Alice getting her PDef debuffed was needed because otherwise LOL forget about decent physical damage, even though the majority of my magic damage came from Patchy.

Oh yeah...Marisa's Master Spark counter to physicals was LOL due to her MAtk getting debuffed.  Did like 40-85 damage tops.

Satori, Okuu & Orin...two tries needed, if only because I should have taken down Satori first so she doesn't Elixir her fallen comrades back to life.  About the only real danger was seeing half my team getting petrified by Satori, but sadly failed to petrify Sanae who could easily remove said status.

Sakuya & Youmu did all the hard work here.  Nice for Youmu to spike Satori with a crit from Slash of the Present for ~15k after buffs.  Next attack from Sakuya dropped her.  Okuu & Orin soon followed.

During all this, I got a sub-quest to hunt down this elder mind flayer at Kourindou.  Knowing immediately what this meant, I assembled a team of Lithos & all my lv1 characters w/ Aya as commander, setup Lithos with a bunch of +IND equips, entered the fight, and had her spam Blaster until Instant Death sticked.  Hello lv1 characters shooting up 34 levels, lulzs.

Tomorrow, running back through several stages to grab some of the chests I passed up, then doing a bit of farming to make some new crap.

[Leerius]

Can't beat the last boss of the main game.
I have crap weapons for everyone except Youmu's and Mokou's tier 6 weapon (trapezohedron)

So, should I farm high quality material like legendary donation box at 1% (is this really faster in the expansion ?) or make tier 6 weapon/armor for everyone ?


All my characters are level 60+ (some are even 65~75).
Really needs some help, please :/

[Lustforapples]

Ok so I think i've pinpointed the dialogue crashes.  Started paying a bit more attention to what events were happening right before the crashes.  The crashes always happen in dialogue for me not when the characters are actually speaking, but when they have little emotes above their heads such as exclamation points and question marks.  Started from the begin of the game for me.  I almost didn't get pasted the open sequences because everytime teh mist came in Reimu had the exclamation point pop up over here head.  I finally got past Alice only to have it happen again in Okuu and Orin's Dialogue when a question mark appears over Orin's head.  I really don't want to have to skip all dialogue as that really the point of playing RPGs for me.  Anyone else noticing that this is what's causing their crashes?

[Serela]

Can't beat the last boss of the main game.
I have crap weapons for everyone except Youmu's and Mokou's tier 6 weapon (trapezohedron)

Doesn't matter, Youmu's weapon is really the only important one, and she only needs her Foriegn God slaying katana, which you have. The rest can just use staves/axes/whatever. Nitori with the axe you pick up in the healing circle room of stage 21 is perfect, all the magic attackers are fine with staves if you don't have a trademark weapon, although I suppose equipping someone with the Kusanagi sword could let them help Youmu damage in the last phase (They'd still pale in damage comparison to Youmu, though)

I could help more if I knew a little more about where you were having trouble. I'm currently working on the last boss myself, except with no grinding, so you've got a big advantage on me! I could beat it now, but... I'd need a lot of luck, so I'm changing my strategies.

[Barrakketh]

Doesn't matter, Youmu's weapon is really the only important one, and she only needs her Foriegn God slaying katana, which you have. The rest can just use staves/axes/whatever. Nitori with the axe you pick up in the healing circle room of stage 21 is perfect, all the magic attackers are fine with staves if you don't have a trademark weapon, although I suppose equipping someone with the Kusanagi sword could let them help Youmu damage in the last phase (They'd still pale in damage comparison to Youmu, though)

Speaking of magic users, the Japanese wiki has some extra/different information about some of the character-specific weapons than is available on the English wiki.  The Necronomicon has 100 exorcism on magic attacks, the Drizzle Broom adds a measly 25.

Also, Nitori's Shade guns have 50 exorcism.

[Leerius]

I'm never gone past the first phase, I tried with the sample team from the wiki walkthrough...

Party 1 : Mokou, Reimu, Aya, Marisa, Satori and Sakuya (Commander)
Party 2 : Alice, Byakuren, Patchouli, Youmu, Sanae and Nitori (Commander)

But without someone to raise in the first team nor someone with a good heal (keeping Reimu's spell cooldown for barrier) as one char die it's the end and It's very hard to let none of my chars die against

Spoiler:

Anastasis or the maids (is this where you need luck ?)

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I'll try with some luck manipulation because I feel I sucks with my high leveled characters.


Lustforapples : I don't know why but, on windows XP even with applocal and compatibility windows 95 my game keep crashing at cutscenes, but it doesn't with seven.
But my crashes doesn't come from "emoticon" because even when I talk to Akyuu the game crashes (not even a cutscene).
So maybe it's better not playing this game with XP.

[Serela]

XP isn't the problem, because other then specific crashes that get fixed, and one rare problem that I can see coming miles away, my game never crashes. Maybe it's more related to video cards or processors or something. *Shrugs*

Anyway, the wiki team is a really BAD idea IMO.

Team 1 needs to have a tank, Sanae, Marisa, and two of Patch/Nitori/Satori. Well, not "needs", depending on the setup, but it's a good starting point. You want to hit elemental weaknesses on the three sisters using Marisa/Patch/Nitori/Satori, pretty much, while Tank does tank things and Sanae buffs offense stats/RES and heals and revives. For tanks; Sakuya can notably stop spellcard charges with Ayacommander+Private Square, and she can heal herself with Soul Sculpture, or Mokou can auto-life the whole party, or Alice can be GODTANK. Or, you could try tank!Nitori using Optical Camoflauge a lot, possibly with Satori Leaf Shield/Shield Wall/Starlight Barrier backup. Plenty of ways to do this.

Team 2 is everyone else, of course :V Youmu does craploads of damage with Weapon Bless/Dark Sword, using Human Realm stance and possibly using her Crit self-buff on turns she isn't using a spellcard. For said spellcard, decide yourself whether Paschal Moon Slash or Slash of Eternity is better, as I don't know. Alice/Reimu/Satori/Mokou/Nitori can all help keep your party alive, depending on who you have, so you have lots of choices. If you have the Kusanagi Sword, then Nitori or Sakuya or Mokou can all use that for nice support damage; so can Patchouli with Silent Selene.

There's lots of ways you can do it, especially with high levels like yours, and I don't know what the better ones are because I haven't tried too many yet :V I think I might try debuffing the first phase with Satori next, although I'd really like her in my second party as support. I'm trying to NOT have Alice tank the first phase, which is causing some complications... plus I need more damage to get past second phase without having to get a lucky Last Word off Sanae.

[Serela]

...Yukkuri Kings seem to appear somewhat often in the final map, or I'm just super lucky.

http://puu.sh/5N14

And they're actually not that hard to kill if you bring Ayacommander, Youmu, Nitori, Satori, Sanaeattackbuff, and someone else with a sword. Sword Chaser, Yukkuri Slash, Samidare Slash, Sonic Blade, welp there you go. Helps if you have a high tier Gun for Nitori, to ignore yukkuri's Perfect Dodge.

Look at that exp. Oh god. 107k. Mokou leveled up four times, and everyone else 2~3 times.

Yukkuri Kings are best ever.

edit:Oh. I didn't realize I was the previous post. Whoops. It's been a few days :c

After I get Mokou's second Last Spell I should be able to murderize the final boss.

[Anima Zero]

...Yukkuri Kings seem to appear somewhat often in the final map, or I'm just super lucky.

http://puu.sh/5N14

And they're actually not that hard to kill if you bring Ayacommander, Youmu, Nitori, Satori, Sanaeattackbuff, and someone else with a sword. Sword Chaser, Yukkuri Slash, Samidare Slash, Sonic Blade, welp there you go. Helps if you have a high tier Gun for Nitori, to ignore yukkuri's Perfect Dodge.

Look at that exp. Oh god. 107k. Mokou leveled up four times, and everyone else 2~3 times.

Yukkuri Kings are best ever.

edit:Oh. I didn't realize I was the previous post. Whoops. It's been a few days :c

After I get Mokou's second Last Spell I should be able to murderize the final boss.

Now imagine if you had one person within the level range to get 4x the base exp, had the three yukkuri accessories that boosted the xp that person gained, the enhanced version of the Melon Sword (+20% xp I believe), other people that equip those other accessories that give the entire party bonus xp, and Byakuren using her LW to get a high bonus multiplier.

That would be so hard to setup I bet, but oh so hilarious to see the amount of xp gained from that if it did happen  .

Anyways, finished grabbing all the chests I skipped past while recruiting characters.  Guess it's time to do a bit of farming and level up my other expansion characters before moving on with the story.

[Serela]

Well, I DID have the Yukkuri Medal on Mokou, plus the Lucky Shoes and Lucky Hat.

Getting Byakuren's LW off would be incredibly hard to do, though; hope it charges on first turn, hope it doesn't run, hope you get a high percent off it!

You could get like 250k if you managed to do it perfect though.

Anyway, I'm ready for the final boss! ...I still wanna kill a meltyface Marisa Yukkuri, though... ;_; I usually used a magic-based party plus Nitori and Alice, so I was always full of low ACC weapons whenever I ran into one. Bleh!

edit:Gee running into one of those sure didn't take long :V Sword Chase and Yukkuri Slash went out so fast in Sonic Stream formation, that they went before Aya's Paparazzi move! Pfft.

[Leerius]

I beat her, but the game crashed because I'm not playing on the right comp (on the one where there's a lot of crashes). OTL

I've made the +5 bomb accessorie for Youmu to spam Paschal full-buffed (Manussya, atk up, endark, crit up bold advance) with Alice non-stop London Dolls on Youmu or Little Legion.

But I got a lucky Divine Yasaka Wind, Youmu managed to 10k crit / hit with Paschal (if not crit 5k+).
> Youmu lv79

And to clear easily the first phase I learnt Refresh, Mass Heal, Shield Wall and Starlight Barrier for Satori and made the +3 bomb accessorie for Mokou.


I'm just wondering now, is the multi-target attack from the sisters at the second phase is earth ?
I saw the earth land jauge increasing but when I used Spectrum Misery to earth it still did 200~300 to everyone.


So yeah, having loads of bombs and high leveled chars helps a lot.


Oh and...



With Yukkuri Crown and Medal, would be better if I knew about the sword x)

[RegalStar]

Yes, that attack is earth-elemental.

[Barrakketh]

Quick request for feedback before I edit the shields entry on the wiki - is there an accepted name for resistance shields?  I'm thinking of just calling them Crest Shields because of the icon.

[[E]c]

Can anyone upload theirs save for me? My comp got pwned along with it's save so now I'm kind of unmotivated to start again from scrap.  :ohdear:
Any save in expansion is fine, stage 24~27 is better though because I was at stage 27.  :ohdear:

[Eilaris]

It's not quite expansion, but here's my mid-stage 20 save (I think it's 20, whatever the second to last area is)

[[E]c]

Thanks for your help, now at least I'll need less time to get back to where I was.  :ohdear:

[Barrakketh]

I believe this file is to start at the beginning of the expansion.

[[E]c]

Thanks Barrakketh but...aw, I have worked on Reiska's save to stage 22. <.<
Thanks to Cheat Engine things can be skipped pretty easy.  :ohdear:

[GuyYouMetOnline]

Any tips for beating Lithos? Because, well, she tends to screw things up for me, and not just through petrification/charm; Vortex really gets irritating, too. My average level is 57, BTW. Any advice?

[Serela]

Sanae RES buff is required, probably should make sure your party has decent RES in the first place as well, or resistance to one of the two statuses (Or a ribbon for both resists are the same time.) Vortex itself can be resisted, if your RES is high enough and you get lucky! Oooh... resistance against Quicks may do it, too. But don't worry about that, Sanae can just renew buffs without too much to worry about.

Average level of 57 is fine, because I had an average level closer to 52; 57 is more like what I beat the final boss at. T'was a challenge to figure out a good setup for THAT, but I managed to eventually!

Alice in Poison Shield formation parraring your party should make any actual damage worries null. Don't remember if Lithos has to charge up before her petrify move, but if she does then Little Legion mostly handles that, and Charm is less scary as long as it's dealth with quickly.Not sure if RES shields activate against her skills but it doesn't hurt to use one with decent RES.

And for DEALING damage, you basically want three out of Marisa/Patchouli/Satori/Nitori using Fire. Nitori being Fire Chaser, with appropriate POW management to have 0 cooldown.

It is a pretty long battle; I seemed to do half as much damage as I did against the other sisters. Be prepared to not run out of MP. You must be able to handle her status infliction; Sanae most of all NEEDS to be able to resist it all consistently so that she can heal your other members of petrification if needed. Thankfully she can get 20 res off of snake POW tree and like 20 or so more off a a different pow tree.

In other news, my crash with rerecruiting Mokou in expansion apparently -wasn't- 100% of the time; it happened 4 times, but on a whim I did it again and it DIDN't crash. Now I'm back on track, recruiting characters and such! whee.

[GuyYouMetOnline]

I'll try that, then. Poison Shield is obtained by killing an enemy with poison, right (and then going back to the shrine, of course)?

[Serela]

Kill an enemy with Deadly Poison (Give Satori all your ind/poison damage boosting stuff, and have Byakuren cast Hyper Trigger on her, then use Poison Art) and then go to the Sunflower Field healing circle.

It's like the best defensive formation ever.

[GuyYouMetOnline]

Didn't work. Is Deadly Poison different from Poison?

[Barrakketh]

Didn't work. Is Deadly Poison different from Poison?

Yes.

After someone posted the instructions to get it, I gave Satori the Green Eye (boosts poison damage) and what IND gear I had, had Byakuren use Hyper Trigger on her (Byakuren might have had her +IND scroll by then...this was right after Eintei, and I did have her skill tree for buffing maxed), and used Poison Art on a group of fairies from stage three.  They died, I went to the Sunflower Field's save point and got the formation.

In the English patch I think it'll have different text for the various levels of poison, IIRC it said "Toxin" in the bubble when I poisoned the fairies, one of them probably said "Deadly Poison".

[GuyYouMetOnline]

Poison Art inflicts Poison, not Deadly Poison. What moves inflict Deadly Poison?

[[E]c]

Give Satori all IND & Poison boost you got then Poison Art will inflict Deadly Poison.