Author Topic: Graveyard Anonymafia - Game Over  (Read 108204 times)

Skull

  • Skull
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #120 on: August 10, 2011, 08:27:54 PM »
Gonna start hurting people if everyone keeps unvoting and not voting someone else.

##Unvote
 ;)

W

  • Heat Joker
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #121 on: August 10, 2011, 08:32:42 PM »
Reads for the Reads god:

Ayumu: So... Got an excuse for literally not doing jack shit? This is really far too little too late and not impressive at all. Reads as if you're shooting for Bogmire out of a desperate attempt to get the wagon off of you rather than actually thinking their scummy. Yes, Bogmire is doing pretty awfully and trying to stay inconspicious. You are doing the exact same by expressing grievances on Bogmire that are nothing new and acting like this is some huge revelation. Also you've never actually mentioned Bogmire before but you act like you were totally watching him.

This along with the revelation you've been capable of posting but very literally have not in favor of trying to pick apart one sentence from your jokevote who is gaining support to be lynched makes me think you're rather literally the worst scum player I have ever met. I'd be willing to hammer you at this juncture.

Remilia and Bogmire are both chickens of the same wing. Both seem to be sticking along with public opinion, less because they're trying to desperately pull their asses out of the fire by trying to abuse gaining annoyance with another player like Ayumu, and more because they seriously don't know what the fuck. I'd really prefer -not- to lynch them at this juncture because they're relatively harmlessly stupid, but I would especially like Bogmire especially to pull himself the fuck together tommorow.

I'm not a fan of Shoe. He seems to be holding too much onto blank townie things to say, exactly like his 'We need to buckle down and LYNCH' in his last post. It's true but it feels like it makes up more of his posts than actual scumhunting and doing things. His earlier posts really give no character as well, seeming to mostly be hanging onto his RVS vote because it still seems viable. Not necessarily full blown scummy, but I'm not really liking him.

Necro has effectively not changed and instead just jumped on a wagon stating 'What everyone else said'. I don't necessarily disagree that Ayumu spending almost no attention to his vote target is a bad thing, but it feels like a half-cocked vote that he intends to ride away on. I still don't like him from before, and I intend to vote him again tommorow if he continues just riding away here instead of coming back in to say god damn something. Want him lynched, still.

Count, I only have one complaint for you. Please stop looking at everyone cross-eyed once they say something and don't necessarily add 'this is scummy' to the end of it. Implications and expectations that people can sometimes get what is being said is kind of a norm, and you're picking a bit much here. Despite that, I'm getting good feelings from you.

Sid seems to be throwing questions around and I'm somewhat incapable of getting where his reads are other than 'REMILIA IS SCUM'. I'd like it if he stopped playing interrogation and state something so we can actually understand -him-.

Everyone else seems mostly fine to me, at the moment, and I can't really find anything I really want to comment or say about them. I'm kind of annoyed Pamela is just now getting prodded seeing as they've been absent for a vast majority of the game.

*Cut by Pamela:
You've literally been absent the entire game. I'd do something other than be a smartass, or people might get incredibly aggravated with you. I'm expecting you're writing up a post as I speak, but still.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #122 on: August 10, 2011, 08:33:42 PM »
PAMELA! Good of you to join us! You know what would be awesome? ACTUAL CONTENT. Pamela has risen to my needs to die list.

Cut by Arc, nothing dissagreeable

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  • TaJaDor
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #123 on: August 10, 2011, 09:40:07 PM »
Hi Master......*Yawn*....

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Mr. Ayumu, do you have nothing else to say about what Mr. Ayumu said in #59?
Munak wonders why Mr. Ayumu finds Corporal Shoe to look fine.
Mr Ayumu's short paragraph on Corporal Shoe looks like a waffle to Munak. Can Munak eat it?

Miss Youmu asks Munak some questions.
The point that Count von Count brought up that Munak was wondering about was how Mr. Ayumu tried to make it sound like Mr. Ayumu had given a valid reason for Mr. Ayumu's RVS vote.
Mr. Ayumu's switch between emphasizing Mr. Ayumu's vote as random and then stating that Mr. Ayumu had a reason confuses Munak.
Munak likes to kill things that confuse Munak.

Munak wonders what Necro Gardna thinks of everybody that isn't miss Youmu, Mr. Ayumu, or mistress Remilia.
Munak doesn't like how Necro Gardna hasn't posted in a while.

Munak dislikes Mr. Ayumu and Corporal Shoe and miss Youmu to a lower extent.
Munak would change Munak's vote to Mr. Ayumu to reflect this but Munak hadn't been counting the votes at the time and Munak feared placing Mr. Ayumu near lynch too early.
So Munak will do this instead!
##FoS Ayumu Aikawa

Munak wants to play with Master now but Munak will be back later with more words.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #124 on: August 10, 2011, 09:44:43 PM »
And how is it different form what you did?
How is it different? Did you read his post? Shoe's first post essentially came in and gave everyone the middle finger. "I don't need to tell you my reasons or give my reads!" How is that similar to what I did?

So you voting him cause he misunderstand something that you even said could be easy misunderstood?
Nope! That's not the reason for my vote. The quick backtrack on Shoe indicates that his initial reasoning for the vote was incredibly weak, in which case I'd wonder why he voted Shoe over Ayumu. I realized this he actually admitted this after I typed that up, which I clarified in the post immediately following. In which case my case became centered on the essence of nothing in his posts.

To be honest I can't help but wonder about your priorities. First you say in your Reply #90: ?He'd probably be a secondary or tertiary vote target.? Only to make him first priority a bit later, just for a ?misunderstanding?? Are you really that desperate?
Desperate? I think this section of post answers itself, really. Secondary or tertiary target -> Shoe looks better -> Bogmire looks worse --> ??? --> Profit. The "misunderstanding" point is largely irrelevant, like I said above.

In any case, I took the liberty of browsing through Bathory's iso. There's a notable lack of opinions on Ayumu there (or Remilia, or any of the other targets of discussion), care to share?

Shiba I'd be willing to put as 2nd scum.  I can't seem to remember her ever giving an opinion on Ayumu of her own.
I think Shiba is avoiding the issue by acknowledging both his "lack of content" and "a few weak snipes," yet not determining whether it's scummy or not.  Considering that these are the "main points" against him, it doesn't follow to me that Shiba is willing to declare a small thing like Ayumu's initial vote to be a null tell but go no further than that.  In this regard, Shiba's vote is a vote-park and I applaud Bathory for bringing this up (Would you like a cookie made of virgin's blood?).
So Shiba, what do you think of Aymumu?
You're right, I hadn't determined whether it was scummy or not. Because it's not scummy in and of itself! I was actually waiting for Ayumu to respond to my question, but he took fucking forever. And you know what? At this point I think he's more likely to be terrible town instead of scum. Not really in the scum MO to kick off a bandwagon in RVS with an empty vote and the lurk out the rest of the day to get a wagon started on themselves, is it? I would also invoke meta here, but this is an anonymous game, so.

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #125 on: August 10, 2011, 09:57:21 PM »
Welp, Ayumu just tried to throw away a big part of my case against him.  Well... I still have to go by what's posted and hold you accountable.  Otherwise the rest of your post seems like throwaway comments that don't change my opinion of you. 

Might as well comment on a few others.

Sid: My first impression is that his posts go in the right direction, although the questions asked are nitpicky and somewhat reportary in many cases and I really can't see where the majority of them are leading to.  Still I can find no scum intent in anything so far.

Munak + Youmu sparring: Er.  This feels like a town vs town fight, but I'd like to express that I find almost all of Munak's concerns addressed to Youmu as either baseless, or already well answered for by Youmu herself.  At this point, it is noise, but luckily no one has been paying it much attention.  (Also Youmu, you *could* show a little more humility)

Arcueid: I orginally thought you looked bad earlier, but since then I have mostly felt good vibes from your posts.  I am still going to lean neutral though.  I feel you are coming a little too harshly onto Ayumu, but the sentiment is fully justified.  Also, If I say something like "you are scummy," I do so only so others can clearly know my stances, they're not simply empty words adding anything to my argument.

cut by Munak.  Well, Ayumu should answer this himself, although I'm not quite holding that against him.  It's that he used his random jokevote reason in conjunction with sniping Necro, which is unacceptable to me.

cut by Shiba. I have to disagree since I think "it was scummy in an of itself" (mostly the snipes) but your opinion is noted and I'm thankful for that.  I also understand that the blood queen hasn't said much else either, and I am looking forward to a dialogue between you two.  Also I must express my concerns that everyone seems to want an Ayumu lynch, but I am hoping that that is just a reasonable town at work trying to lynch the player that seems most likely to be scum.  (One can always hope right?).

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #126 on: August 10, 2011, 10:02:38 PM »
cut by Shiba. I have to disagree since I think "it was scummy in an of itself" (mostly the snipes) but your opinion is noted and I'm thankful for that.
Haha, let me clarify on that point. I think that bad play is scummy in the sense that bad play is always scummy, but bad play doesn't necessarily indicate someone is scum. In this case I think Ayumu is just a bad player, and I've seen him do similar things as town in previous games.

Decade

  • Decade
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #127 on: August 11, 2011, 02:25:57 AM »
Guh. Still not really happy with why Remilia's voting Ayumu. But, ah well, I still don't like Ayumu, and getting the lynch is getting the lynch, I suppose... further scrutiny on this matter can come after we've got some nice, solid flips to work with. I dislike Day 1's lack of information in all forms, but... I digress.

Munak's speech style makes it difficult for me to process her words in more then direct meaning. Bleh. In other news, I'm going to hide thumbtacks in Pamela's shoes while she sleeps so that maybe she'll be a little more awake tomorrow, and able to actually DO SOMETHING. Provided she hasn't been removed by then from any various means, of course.

Elizabeth, why hello! It's nice to see you've got some opinions on our Kukaku Shiba. But, you didn't say a single word about anyone or anything else. Not a single one at all. I do not like this tunneling you're doing. Any more thoughts you'd like to share, please?

I see Ayumu has made a real post, now. It's... better! I'm still not consoled with his earlier actions, but I'm willing to move on for the moment, with the knowledge that I WILL definitely be returning by deadline to move my vote to wherever it may be needed.

##Unvote
##Vote:Elizabeth Bathory


Not only are you tunnelling, Elizabeth, but I don't think your case holds water either. Here's a link to the post you made it in, as it contains quotes that won't carry over into a new quote.

Now, honestly, I don't really see the connections you're making with your first two sentences and why they're scummy. I went back and looked over Kukaku's previous posts and didn't find the things you were accusing him of doing to have happened in any scummy manner. I'll go a bit more indepth about the last paragraph.
So you voting him To be honest I can't help but wonder about your priorities. First you say in your Reply #90: ?He'd probably be a secondary or tertiary vote target.? Only to make him first priority a bit later, just for a ?misunderstanding?? Are you really that desperate?
He didn't just change his mind out of the blue or anything. Bogmire had made another post where he unvoted Reg Shoe, passed off the vote as an accidental mistake, didn't vote anyone else, and didn't provide any more opinion on anything.  Those things are all kinds of terrible, and now that I remember Bogmire exists, I'm not enjoying him either. Not only that, but as Kukaku has said earlier, the one he had been already voting was looking better. More then enough had happened to completely justify unvoting his current target and shifting onto Bog.

I believe that your case is as empty as your voiced opinions on people not named Kukaku Shiba, and I am not happy with you in the slightest.




Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #128 on: August 11, 2011, 04:54:13 AM »
Ayumu Aikawa (5): Count von Count, Youmu Konpaku, Necro Gardna, Remilia Scarlet, Reg Shoe (L-3)
Bogmire (2): Kūkaku Shiba, Ayumu Aikawa
Elizabeth Bathory (1): Mean Ghost Girl
Kūkaku Shiba (1): Elizabeth Bathory
Necro Gardna (1): Arcueid Brunestud
Remilia Scarlet (1): Sid Barett
Youmu Konpaku (1): Munak

Not Voting: Bogmire, Pamela Ibis
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.  There are currently ~14 hours left in the day. Better not waste them~

Necro Gardna has been prodded.
The fact that I've already had to give out four prods when day one hasn't even ended yet is pretty disappointing. Don't be lame, guys.

Skull

  • Skull
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #129 on: August 11, 2011, 05:19:32 AM »
I'm going to hide thumbtacks in Pamela's shoes while she sleeps

Hee hee. I bet you're actually a big softie on the inside~.

Arcy is town! I know this because Youmu suddenly went and buddied up to her early in the game. Youmu is a big meanie head, and she needs to stop yelling at people.

People keep picking on Gardnie for falling in line with the day's main lynch, but everyone else is being nice to Bog and Remilia for doing the same thing. Is there really something different between those cases that I don't know about? Or does everyone just want to keep picking on him so Youmu doesn't yell at them? I don't think Gardnie is a bad person. It looks like he was just confused earlier.

I think Ayumu is trying way too hard to make "Why me and not X" into a hard scumtell. I don't see how Remilia was trying to deflect attention to Youmu. What I see is Remilia trying to ask you a question. the same kinda question Gardnie asked Youmu.

Kukakukeki is weird. I understand her vote for Bog has a good reason, but she spends more time talking about something that she immedietely retracts. I wanna know what she thinks her reasons are.

Also, count: please tell me what you mean by sniping! I checked my library, but all the books talk about are people with big guns.

I wanna bring Youmu over to full-death. It's much more fun here, and she really needs to loose up. But, it doesn't look like a lot of people agree with me on that. I think Ayumu should be our lynch because of what other people said, and because of what I said above.
##Vote: Ayumu

* Pamela Ibis yawns
I'm getting tired...

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #130 on: August 11, 2011, 05:52:18 AM »
Remilia - reinforced by a general non existence except to give the most minimalist of stances that can hardly be qualified as pro town.
I'm still catching up but I wanted to quickly address that I get busy on weekdays and actually am eager to play mafia when I get home. So sorry for all the delays. Timezones don't help.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #131 on: August 11, 2011, 05:59:56 AM »
Remilia. Some basic math should tell you eleven other people can't be town aligned. The way you phrase your suspicions isn't very clear. I'd appreciate if you find at least one more person to be suspicious of.
I never said that everyone else was town. I just said that they're looking townish to me. I haven't found anything really suspicious about them.
On to page 5.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #132 on: August 11, 2011, 07:43:47 AM »
I forgot Bathory existed until the bleach bomb mummy and the other meanie mentioned it. It sure would be nice if you posted again to follow up your suspicion or I don't know SAY SOMETHING. There isn't enough content to get a read off of and I seriously hope they plan to fix this tomorrow. There are too many lurking souls in this graveyard! It will take hours to clean you all up.

Speaking of lurking souls the Ibis Trigger's response is annoying. I don't like being set up by someone who agrees with me on the surface. If yelling is the only way to force a response out of quiet zombies like you then I WILL BE LOUDER. Besides, Lady Yuyuko needs me to be committed. If you really want to come after me bring it with a vote and something better then being too loud.

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  • TaJaDor
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #133 on: August 11, 2011, 09:05:20 AM »
Welcome back Master, shall we be on our way?
We must continue, continue we must. You and I, we are great!

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Munak has quickly read through the topic again and Munak dislikes Bogmire's lack of anything.
Lady Bathory's lack of activity also annoys Munak.
And Mr. Ayumu's lack of activity.
And Necro Gardna's lack of activity.
... Can Munak eat all of them?

Miss Pamela's first real posts looks to Munak like a blatant wagon hop.
Munak notes that miss Pamela states that she wants miss Youmu to die fully but provides no reasoning at all for it.
Miss Pamela simply uses my precedent to write off miss Pamela's suspicions of miss Youmu.
That is, if miss Pamela really has any suspicions of miss Youmu.
Munak suspects that miss Pamela simply threw out that statement to make it appear as though miss Pamela has been doing more during this game than she really has.

##Unvote
##Vote Pamela Ibis

Sasword

  • Sasword
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #134 on: August 11, 2011, 09:09:07 AM »
Since everyone is busy being QUIET, which does nothing but help the scum, guess I'll just RAGE at my wagon to see why I'm being voted.

Count: He actually caught me doing something scummy. I see how it's scummy, I see why it's scummy, I ADMIT IT'S SCUMMY. *shrug* He's the only person I would accept a vote on me for now.

Necro Gardna: No case, everything else everyone said. ...

Remilia: ... ???

Reg: Vote me for not posting, while cutting me while posting, then straight out disappears.

Youmu:
Quote
Weird gaffe in RVS followed by insistence on having "reasoning" for voting Remilia earlier, most notably providing nothing else.
Oh right, and I'll just agree with whatever Arc said.

Arc: Too little too late. (Expressed willingness to hammer. Not very encouraging)

Pamela:
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I think Ayumu is trying way too hard to make "Why me and not X" into a hard scumtell. I don't see how Remilia was trying to deflect attention to Youmu. What I see is Remilia trying to ask you a question. the same kinda question Gardnie asked Youmu.
And what other people said.

Ojou-sama: Updates on anything??? I'm giving you a newbie pass for trying!!!

Necro: How about appearing? Or shall I have to activate Imperial Iron Wall? Or having an opinion on anyone?

Reg: Why you disappear? Looks like a good scum position to just vote the largest bandwagon and get out of dodge to secure a mislynch.

Actually, looking at all these votes, almost all of them are "You. Post now." Then completely disappearing when I finally do post, or basically going "Too late, we're just going to lynch you anyways." Or just say "Everything's been said. I agree with X, etc."

tl;dr
WHY IS EVERYONE DISAPPEARING?! THIS IS ONLY HELPING SCUM BY ALLOWING TIME TO WASTE, SO EVEN WHEN A BETTER LYNCH IS FOUND EVERYONE WILL GO "MEH, NOBODY IS WILLING TO SWITCH SO WE'LL JUST LYNCH THIS GUY ANYWAYS." THIS IS ONLY HELPING SCUM! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF MOE PEOPLE BE MORE ACTIVE, ESPECIALLY ON D1 FFS.

YOU'RE ALL SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Except Count.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

ALSO, IF YOU GUYS WAIT FOR ME TO WAKE UP BEFORE LYNCHING ME I MIGHT ANSWER YOU ON WHAT GENDER I AM, BECAUSE WATCHING YOU GUYS BE CONFUSED IS STILL ENTERTAINING.

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  • TaJaDor
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #135 on: August 11, 2011, 09:14:18 AM »
*Panting*Master! How many times do I have to tell you! ....WAIT for me!

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Miss Pamela's first real posts looks to Munak like a blatant wagon hop.
Munak would like to correct Munak.
Munak was meant to say 「Miss Pamela's first real post looks to Munak like a blatant wagon hop.」

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  • TaJaDor
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #136 on: August 11, 2011, 09:24:03 AM »
He loves me, he loves me not..... OH! Didn't see you standing there *blush*

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Count: He actually caught me doing something scummy. I see how it's scummy, I see why it's scummy, I ADMIT IT'S SCUMMY. *shrug* He's the only person I would accept a vote on me for now.
Munak finds Mr. Ayumu's reasoning confusing.
Can Munak kill Mr. Ayumu yet?
Does Mr. Ayumu mean to say that eight different people should find eight different reasons on why Mr. Ayumu is scummy in order to have Mr. Ayumu lynched?
Does Mr. Ayumu's vote logic apply to Mr. Ayumu's own vote?
Hadn't Mr. Ayumu's point on Bogmire already been brought up by several other people before Mr. Ayumu made Mr. Ayumu's case and vote?

Munak also highly dislikes lady Bathory's post #107.
The post makes Munak feel bad.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #137 on: August 11, 2011, 09:25:19 AM »
Ojou-sama: Updates on anything??? I'm giving you a newbie pass for trying!!!
Not really. As I'm so confused at the moment.
Also Youmu should really calm down.

W

  • Heat Joker
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #138 on: August 11, 2011, 09:44:11 AM »
I find it hillarious that Ayumu of all people is raging at people for not saying things. There is throwing rocks in a glass house, and then there is lighting fuses covered in god damn dynamite. I am -thoroughly- not impressed with Ayumu's latest post that is essentially raging at the fact he has a wagon, along with laconic versions heavily skewed in favor of making his wagon look stupid. It both annoys and confuses the right fuck out of me why anyone would even post that mess. I'm still willing to vote for them, and if there are no objections to putting them at L-1, I might want to do that before I go back to my castle and wrap myself in chains because I have weird sleeping habbits.

Pamela's latest post...is well, I believe I agree it kind of looks like a blatant hop. It's basically a god damn cliffhanger to be continued on with for Day 2. As in, it literally reads as if they intend to sit on that vote until day 2 and then pull out some big fancy continuation. I find Day 1 as rather pointless and annoying as the rest, but I -really- hate people who try to skip entire days and set themselves up to actually start playing. I'm going to give you your presumed next post, but I expect to see that followed by many other actual posts, if you wish to remain on this im...whatever the fuck we're on coil.

Other than that, I don't have anything else of particular note at the moment. This would probably not be so if Gardna would get here and post, but I'm not about to say we should elongate the day to suit his turtle-like behavior.

*Cut by Remilia:
This reads less like trying and more 'eh this game is confusing, i'll just say they're town'. Please start trying. Eventually we're going to stop being interested in the fact that you're new and more interested in the fact you're not even trying to find scum because you're new.

I do agree Youmu needs to chill a bit, I think they're letting the fact people are being lazy this game get them too worked up.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #139 on: August 11, 2011, 10:23:18 AM »
I am trying. I just get horribly confused at some points. Plus I have very bad memory and tend to forget most things after I read them.
I think Pamela's vote did seem like a bad wagon hop plus she still hasn't posted much at all. So she seems suspicious at the moment.
@mod: Can I request a votecount please?
Because if I can do math well,  Day 1 should have already ended.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2011, 10:24:39 AM »
EBWOP:No I can't do math well. I assumed that the time on the posts were in my time. So yeah don't listen to that sentence.

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2011, 10:57:53 AM »
Master, I want to be with you~

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Munak fears that Munak may have been slightly unclear about Munak's thoughts so Munak will direct a question to miss Pamela.
Miss Pamela, Munak is wondering why miss Pamela wanted miss Youmu to die.
Munak would appreciate some reasoning.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2011, 10:59:11 AM »
Oh dear god, Pamela's latest post and vote is completely terrible.

I think Ayumu is trying way too hard to make "Why me and not X" into a hard scumtell. I don't see how Remilia was trying to deflect attention to Youmu. What I see is Remilia trying to ask you a question. the same kinda question Gardnie asked Youmu.
I wanna bring Youmu over to full-death. It's much more fun here, and she really needs to loose up. But, it doesn't look like a lot of people agree with me on that. I think Ayumu should be our lynch because of what other people said, and because of what I said above.
Not only did this RVS-level case become outdated as soon as Ayumu posted again and essentially dropped this point by unvoting Remilia, but I don't see any indication that you tried to update this case with Ayumu's latest vote. Then there's an attempt at a Youmu case based on her attitude.  :getdown:

In any case, let's clarify the case on Bogmire, yes?
In his first content post, he makes a few side comments on Necro and Remilia, and dislikes Ayumu and Reg. He drops Reg soon after, and could "stand to hear more from Ayumu." Where are the scumreads? Where are the opinions? His next post attempts to rectify this a little, but it's just what everyone else already said. As far as I'm concerned he has less content than friggin Ayumu at this stage.

Ayumu's latest response is facepalm worthy, but I don't think it's scummy. It looks more like general frustration at his wagon combined with an inability to make cases.

As for other people, I'm withholding judgement on Bathory until she follows up, but suffice to say I don't like her lack of content either. We also have a bunch of other lurkers; Sid, notably (because people seem to have forgotten him as opposed to the other lurkers), has a case on Remilia and almost nothing else (his next post is a query at Ayumu). Could you update your opinions Sid? I don't find you scummy, but I want to see how you've come along. There are way too many of you lurker jerks anyway (Necro and Shoe come to mind), so they can't all be scum; post more. I do have a gut vibe on someone else, but I don't think it's important enough to bring up today, and in any case I can always look into it tonight if it's still bothering me.

Ryuki

  • Dragredder
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #143 on: August 11, 2011, 11:05:38 AM »
Opening car doors isn't very fun, but yeah, I'm back and I shall promise continued activity from now on.  Sorry for the wait.

Count, I consider not having any cases to be pretty much equivalent to scumminess myself.  One can make bad, poorly-written cases with really out-there reasons and stuff like that, but at least that would show some townie intent in that he is trying to catch scum, especially if the observations he puts forward are original.  But not having cases, and not committing himself to anything even though he clearly has the ability to do so, is the surest indicator of being apathetic to the town cause, and is therefore scummy no matter his actual alignment.  Ayumu was one such example.

As for my opinions on her Bogmire case, there's a bit of irony there when he says that Bogmire is just copying Shiba's points, when in fact Ayumu is himself copying (and summarizing) from Shiba and Youmu, which does not really make sense.  I want Ayumu to address this particular point. 

Also, shooting everyone on her wagon is just bad, especially when she admits that Count caught her for doing something scummy, since everyone else is voting her for pretty much the exact same reasons, as Munak says.  It's quite a null-tell in my opinion, this display of indignant rage, but still fairly disgusting.  So disgusting I'm going to heap my weight to someone else just because I doubt scum would be doing this to attract attention at this stage of the game.  I still do accept all that has been said against Ayumu, and am still willing to hammer, despite me going for the 'too scum to be scum' route, but I'd rather go for those who are more subtle.

While I'm neutral about Pamela's bandwagon hop by itself (since there can only be so many reasons to vote someone), I'm not happy with how a third of her content is committed to defending me when it is not called for (since I'm not in danger of a lynch today).  Also, she says that people are picking on me for not being original on Ayumu (in fact, people are angry at me for not posting much) and being nice to Bog and Remillia, when people are being very hard on the latter two as well, which gives me the impression that she's not reading well.  Lastly, if she's okay with people copying other people's cases with regards to Ayumu, why is she okay with the case on Ayumu, which is made up primarily of her vote on Bogmire being copied from others in the first place?  She needs to clarify on which parts of Ayumu's case she agrees or disagrees with due to the above.  Other than this, I just do not like the placatory tone of her post, even towards the person she wants lynched, since it seems aimed at lying low for awhile, which is what scum wants to do.

##Unvote
##Vote: Pamela Ibis

In other news, I'm not happy with how Sid's gigantic set of questions here has fizzled out and led to nowhere, especially with regards to Youmu.  He also needs to explain, at this point, why he still insists on picking Remi instead of Ayumu,, lest his vote seems more and more like a votepark.  Someone to look at tomorrow.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #144 on: August 11, 2011, 11:09:13 AM »
I do have a gut vibe on someone else, but I don't think it's important enough to bring up today, and in any case I can always look into it tonight if it's still bothering me.
Who might this gut read be on?

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2011, 11:12:54 AM »
Who might this gut read be on?
Ask me tomorrow if I'm still alive.

##Unvote
##Vote: Pamela Ibis


I like this lynch better than the Ayumu one.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2011, 11:16:55 AM »
Why can't we know now?
Also I agree I would currently prefer a Pamela lynch over an Ayumu lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Pamela Ibis

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2011, 11:22:37 AM »
It would defeat the purpose.
Also, what happened to your Ayumu case; why did she suddenly become better to you?

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2011, 11:27:56 AM »
If by "she" you mean Pamela. Then it's because of the lack of posts, the blatant wagon hop the lack of content and the fact that she appears to be trying to lay low to avoid suspicion.
So instead of Ayumu being better it's more that Pamela is worse.
Also what purpose?

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 1
« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2011, 11:29:34 AM »
Hmm, okay.
As for the other thing, stop asking. It's not important.