Author Topic: Graveyard Anonymafia - Game Over  (Read 108193 times)

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #210 on: August 14, 2011, 02:02:31 AM »
Kukaku Shiba (2) - Reg Shoe, Elizabeth Bathory
Necro Gardna (2) - Count von Count, Pamela Ibis
Pamela Ibis (2) - Munak, Bogmire
Bogmire (1) - Youmu Konpaku
Elizabeth Bathory (1) - Mean Ghost Girl
Sid Barett (1) - Necro Gardna

Not voting: Everyone else

43.5 hours remain in the day.  With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

In other news, I'm finding Day 2's activity levels to be rather depressing so far. Don't make me adopt Bard's policy of shortening deadline times in response to people lurking constantly.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2011, 05:22:44 PM by huh what »

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #211 on: August 14, 2011, 02:33:31 AM »
So, this is really interesting. Is there a *reason* you're indirectly protecting your scumbuddy or is it just for the lulz? And, uh, I really don't care that you ALMOST got "an invitation to shift your vote". Your posts really imply you want him dead now and then...nothing? Just a bit curious, yanno. Possibly curiouser.

Oh, also, Mean Ghost Girl is kind of great for posting little vignettes on everyone except...uh...people likely to get lynched today. There any particular reason you're avoiding the two most popular wagons or did it just seem like a good idea at the time?

Munak's latest post is incredibly hugely pain in the ass to read, but what I'm gathering from the awful awful unreadable anti town syntax is...you think Ibis and Bathory are scum? Fair enough, don't blame you on Ibis, still deciding on Bathory. But...what do you think of Necro and Kukaku in this case, the two we can point to for costing us yesterday's lynch?


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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #212 on: August 14, 2011, 06:01:03 AM »
Master... you better watch your back...

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Munak wonders where everybody went.
Munak feels lonely.

Munak does not think that Necro Gardna and Kukaku Shiba look particularly scummy.
Munak will, however, be rereading Necro Gardna and Mr. Barett sometime in the near future.

Munak has noted Mean Ghost Girl's defense of miss Pamela in #205.

DiEnd

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #213 on: August 14, 2011, 06:53:58 AM »
I'm sorry :ohdear: I think I'm part of the reason everyone is busy today! I was investigating this graveyard looking for the cause of the divine spirits all over Gensokyo. I think I saw the red-white and black-white witch here too! Lady Yuyuko seemed to think the culprit is somewhere around here. Don't worry, I'm almost past Stage 2!

Skull

  • Skull
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #214 on: August 14, 2011, 08:24:51 AM »
I find homework is best done by somebody else at 3:00 a.m.~

So, I oversimplified Necro's case, and the part about Ayumu (which I think I clearified already) is a half-decent reason. But, thinking about it, I don't think whether he had a good reason or a bad reason to make the switch has to do with it. No one seems to be able to grasp this, but the quality of reasoning has nothing to do with him being scum or town.
refering back to this post, He makes an entire paragraph devoted to explaining why he doesn't want to vote Ayumu anymore. Then he makes a paragraph twice as long, but filled with fluff like "While the bandwagon hop is neutral..."  "...gives me the impression that she's not reading well. " and "since it seems aimed at lying low for awhile". He finishes off by saying that he'd be willing to switch back to Ayumu, which negates any town purpose for explaining why he feels Ayumu is a bad lynch.

If Gardnie was a townie, that post would have been much, much shorter. Something like "I still don't like Ayumu, but Pamela needs to explain exactly what about the Ayumu case it is that she supports." The Gardnie we have, however just feels like he's asking if it's okay if he makes a new case on someone else.

Quote from: Sid Barrett
When I said I was willing to vote for you, it was for Day 2.

I was unwilling to immediately lynch you right after you decided to start getting involved.
Were you or were you not aware of how much time there was left in the day?
If you realized the day was getting too short, would you have kept your vote on Remilia, Switched to Ayumu, or Switched to me?
If the bandwagon had time to move onto me fully, and Ayumu was no longer an option, would you still have voted me despite what I quoted above from your post?
Also, what does "You want me to follow suit and vote on the person I believed to be likely town?" mean? Is this in reference to you voting me, or Ayumu, or someone else?

I still take issue with both of you posting before deadline without even considering the way wagons would move (Or in Sid's case, not move at all). But I suppose I should let this go somewhat, since this is a complete mod error (and he's even threatening to shorten the day. Ha.)

I'll have to reread Keikaku Shiba. The only notable thing I remember her doing is telling Remi that she has a day one gut read that she'll tell us "if she doesn't get killed." It sounds like she stalling to me, and it's a day one gut read (i.e. so totally never going to be important) so I don't see a reason to wait for her either.

Also, I checked Bogmire's last post again, and he really does need to put more effort into the game if he doesn't want to be considered scum. If you're voting me and using the reason "I'm confused!" as half the case, then you should at least ask me a few questions.

Also, since people are interested in my case on Youmu, it was two parts. The Buddying up with Arc part I mentioned, but also when I called her a meanie, I meant it. I didn't like her being overly aggressive, especially on early day one, because that's the time when scum can easily fake aggressiveness and townieness. First Impressions last a while (especially in anonymous games!) so I've learned to become weary of people who try to do that sort of thing. I've dropped the case on Youmu as of the start of day 2.

Ryuki

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #215 on: August 14, 2011, 09:01:36 AM »
Of course, I needed to justify voting for you, and part of that justification requires me to explain why Ayumu wasn't my primary target anymore.  I never said that Ayumu was a bad lynch, just not my favourite choice.  And of course, you not reading well was completely true, with rather inaccurate statements like 'no one was going after Remilla and Bogmire but people were going after me' when the opposite was true.  After all, I'm not the only one who found your content lacking at the end of day 1, and I'm not so sure why you wanted me to just put forward my Ayumu one when the content-based part (fluff as you call it) was equally valid.

Since, through the entire game, you have only considered me and Ayumu (and perhaps Sid from the last post) as scummy, and since she hasn't exactly done anything after your Ayumu vote, I'm still interested in where Ayumu stands in your scumlist.

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #216 on: August 14, 2011, 12:52:50 PM »
I will have your body, master... It's time to feed!

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As much as Munak hates to interrupt the plethora of activity going on in here, Munak will make another post.
Munak sees another post by miss Pamela.

Munak notes that miss Pamela admits to misrepping Necro Gardna in said post.
Munak also notes that miss Pamela admits that Necro Gardna had decent points against Mr. Ayumu but that miss Pamela does not care at all.

Munak sees a paragraph about Mr. Barett.
Munak notes that this paragraph does not really say anything about what miss Pamela thinks of Mr. Barett.
Munak sees a paragraph about Keikaku Shiba.
Munak notes that this paragraph does not really say anything about what miss Pamela thinks of Keikaku Shiba.
Munak sees a paragraph about Bogmire.
Munak notes that this paragraph does not really say anything about what miss Pamela thinks of Bogmire.
Munak finds it funny that miss Pamela accuses others of filling up their posts with useless fluff when miss Pamela's own post appears to contain very little.

Munak notes that the above three paragraphs that Munak mentioned appear to be worded carefully enough that miss Pamela can claim to have suspected the three all along and jump onto their wagons whenever miss Pamela feels like it.
Munak also notes that miss Pamela only began mentioning these people after other people had voiced their suspicions of them.

Munak wonders why miss Pamela didn't deem explaining miss Pamela's reasons for wanting miss Youmu dead to be important enough to share at the time.
Munak also wonders what reason miss Pamela has to drop the case on miss Youmu.
Lady Arcueid flipped town, does that not give miss Pamela's buddying theory more credit?

Faiz

  • Faiz
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #217 on: August 14, 2011, 01:45:01 PM »
Were you or were you not aware of how much time there was left in the day?
If you realized the day was getting too short, would you have kept your vote on Remilia, Switched to Ayumu, or Switched to me?
If the bandwagon had time to move onto me fully, and Ayumu was no longer an option, would you still have voted me despite what I quoted above from your post?
Also, what does "You want me to follow suit and vote on the person I believed to be likely town?" mean? Is this in reference to you voting me, or Ayumu, or someone else?

The day ended alittle after I posted...So yes, I was not as aware of the deadline then I should have been. I had assumed the mod would tell us, if we were close to the deadline.
I would have kept to Remilia.
No I would have not voted you.
I believed Ayumu to be town, due to Meta and Bias. Therefore you asking me that I should follow up the wagon, shows me contradicting myself. I'm not sure of the importance of getting a Lynch every day is.

All Sid has done is to attack Remilla for logical faults and errors the entire game which do not lead to any judgment of her alignment.  He hasn't even tried to convince the rest of town on his case.  Also, his town reads are almost completely unjustified through objective reasons, and doesn't seem to be following the game very well outside of Remilla.  In this respect, he seems to be coasting through D2 under the pretense of content, which is quite unforgivable until he comments on other stuff.

Is it not me who is getting Remilia to learn faster? Pointing out mistakes helps someone learn faster then just "I'll let this go and not point it out. Afterall its a newbie mistake~". The faster she learns, the more she posts. The fact is she is not posting her own content. Which means theres nothing to even make an alignment out of. This makes me find her more scummy.
I also going to need to ask your read on Remilia.

Are you saying you can completely tell the difference between scum and town?

Are you capable of being completely Unbiased?

Is having an objective read all that horrible?

Are you saying basing some things on older games completely wrong?

Your talking about unforgivable?

Of course, I needed to justify voting for you, and part of that justification requires me to explain why Ayumu wasn't my primary target anymore.  I never said that Ayumu was a bad lynch, just not my favourite choice.  And of course, you not reading well was completely true, with rather inaccurate statements like 'no one was going after Remilla and Bogmire but people were going after me' when the opposite was true.  After all, I'm not the only one who found your content lacking at the end of day 1, and I'm not so sure why you wanted me to just put forward my Ayumu one when the content-based part (fluff as you call it) was equally valid.

As you said in bold here, if he really was not such a bad lynch, why did you change your vote right after Pamela Ibis decided to get more involved?

You could have waited for Day 2, after you hammer Ayumu, which means Pamela is able to posts more, while you learn more.

Yet you immediately decided to vote change to a person who is TELLING you she won't be here for the deadline.

The fact that you were not willing to wait for more information before you completely decided you wanted her dead.

I read what your saying right now as this "Too Scummy to be Scummy" is much better then "trying to be lay low for awhile."

Ryuki

  • Dragredder
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #218 on: August 14, 2011, 03:30:22 PM »
Whatever your effectiveness at being a self-appointed Mafia tutor may be, it is no substitute for your other roles as a player in the game, which is commenting on people not Remilla and actually convincing us as to why Remilla is scummy.  You have done neither, directing most of your questions towards Remi over logical mistakes that don't have anything to do with alignment instead of giving us as conclusion for us to ascertain your stance.  Also,all of your town reads are one-liners and not elaborated on, and are based solely on meta without any consideration of their actual actions in the game, thus they are actually subjective, not objective.

Your last set of points is a pretty valid question, though I don't understand your last sentence.  My answer is that , I was willing to wait for more information, but more from Ayumu, and not from Pamela.  Your point about Pamela being able to post more could have equally applied to Ayumu as well.  Also, Pamela making a lame post like that after a day and a half of absence where she could think about things more simply did not show much promise, of course.

Also, you clearly support a Pamela lynch here.  What gives?  In the linked post, I also notice that you have issues with early Day 1 being 'concrete'. However, people other than Remi had this view too at that time, such as Arecuid and Youmu, so why didn't you address them as well?  Why did you address only Remi and not me about the Pamela laying low part, when I put that forward first?

About my Remi read, she is one of the inexperienced question marks  (like Bogmire) with no solid or original opinions, but seems to be trying.  I wouldn't mind lynching her any day before LyLO just to get rid of such a question mark, but I would rather judge by interactions with flipped scum rather than by her content alone because of her lack of experience in comparison to people like Ayumu and Bogmire.

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Will be switching to Pamela for now, since I will not be here for the next 20 hours, mainly because her reasons for voting Ayumu on D1 (as to when it is right to copy and when it ain't) are simply not consistent, and is probably the worst hop on the Ayumu wagon yesterday. Other subjective things I have said already, but the above is the most damning point in my eyes.  Also okay with an Ayumu lynch, given her lack of activity and usefulness.  Sid and Count I would like to take a closer look into tomorrow, after a flip.

#Unvote
#Vote: Pamela

Ouja

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #219 on: August 14, 2011, 03:49:52 PM »
 I will post more content tonight, expect walls of sound and scum being outed.

 In the mean time, the post above is Necro hoping on the easy wagon to lynchtown. Pamela votes right now are almost akin to scumclaims. Pamela IS TOWN.7
 
@Mod: Is that vote count correct?

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #220 on: August 14, 2011, 05:22:19 PM »
Apparently not! I can't read. Why nobody points out these mistakes to me when I actually make them, I have no idea.

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #221 on: August 14, 2011, 05:34:41 PM »
I don't think the votecount is right.. Cut by it being fixed, hooray!

Bogmire still hasn't posted? Kukaku is still on V/LA.. -.- The people I want to talk to most aren't even here.
Let's talk about something related to the votecount though. It's called ~voting~ and alot of you aren't doing it. This isn't forgivable after yesterday. GET YOUR VOTES DOWN THERE. Ayumu, did your not crying verson of your post have a vote in it that you lost? Sid Barret, you clearly have a few suspicions, I want to see which ones your vote follows up. Remilia.. sigh.. just vote for who you think is scum. I will say I don't support an Ibis Trigger lynch today either and am likely to switch to Kukaku if he doesn't improve when he gets back here. If she votes she'll already be ahead of some of you! :V

Sasword

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #222 on: August 14, 2011, 06:23:44 PM »
Holy crap did that "soon" get derailed.  :getdown:

I do not like how Necro is being almost all defensive for day 2.

His position at the end of Day 1 looks severely safe if a lynch happened as he stated being happy with either lynch.

His last post of D1 is a defense of Shiba. Why would you do that?

I'm going to wait for Kukaku to respond before making a concrete stance.

For now

##Vote: Necro Gardna

Edit - Cut by Roukanken D:

Oh right, almost forgot. I am a Masou Shoujo (Magically Equipped Girl)

Kiva-la

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #223 on: August 14, 2011, 06:38:11 PM »
So I did a re-read of Necro yesterday but wasn't able to post because I got cut off from internet access shortly afterward. 

Despite all the :words: Necro produced in D1 (and now in D2) I have major problems with his voting history.  Firstly the vote for Youmu came about because Necro thought one of Youmu's posts expressing dislike of Remilia and dislike of those on her wagon sounded "disjointed and safe-looking".  But during his unvote in post #91 Necro explains that Youmu's scumminess came from Necro's supposition of "Why Ayumu and not me?"  Despite Youmu's repeated answers to this one question Necro is content to call all the noise he generated "trivial" even though he is unsatisfied with Youmu's responses.  At the same time, there is no updated read of Youmu.  This reminds me completely of what I did as scum in Jojo's, wherein I was forced to back off after generating pointless noise because people started agreeing with the person I was arguing with.  Necro, I believe you asked me why I wanted people to justify voting for Ayumu.  Because there are reasons and there are reasons.  Let's look at yours.  "In comparison, Ayumu, while having a RVS philosophy I totally agree with, doesn't have a case after so many posts, which is the worst offence town can ever commit.  She needs a case on someone."  Ayumu = scum because Ayumu doesn't have a case.  Later you confirm this even more explicitly in your #143.  Moreover, you examine his case on Bogmire, but you don't say whether it's a good case or not, only that (paraphrased) "a case citing copying points, by copying points, doesn't make sense."  The term you are looking for is hypocritical, however you don't state whether this is scummy or not.  It's not like you aren't guilty of a similar offense.
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I still do accept all that has been said against Ayumu, and am still willing to hammer, despite me going for the 'too scum to be scum' route
So everybody voting Ayumu had reasons you would feel comfortable with agreeing to when push came to shove.  This reads to me that you don't have YOUR OWN OPINION on what is scummy about ayumu.  There is nothing direct.  I sense no indication that you truely believe ayumu is scum even when you implied then and now, that he still has a good chance of being scum.

This is my most serious concern about you, but also I have problems with your pamela vote as well and I'll save that for another post shortly.
M

Skull

  • Skull
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #224 on: August 14, 2011, 06:51:12 PM »
Gardnie~
I still don't understand the town logic behind explaining why you're unvoting someone you think is scum to vote someone else you think is more scum? If someone is more scum than the person you're voting, then the vote should flow naturally, but yours doesn't. Why did you feel the need to explain why you feel the case on Ayumu was bad when you don't even think it was bad?

Sid
So, to get this straight, you thought I was town after my post on day one, and didn't vote me because you believed quicklynching a townie had less town value than a no-lynch? And that your read on me was further subject to how I handled today?


"Munak sees a paragraph about X.
Munak notes that this paragraph does not really say anything about what miss Pamela thinks of X."
Could you please point to the parts of those Paragraphs where I wasn't grilling Sid for something that I think was used to further scum agenda, I didn't suggest that letting Kakukekiko live had no pro-town worth, and that I didn't accuse Bogmire of being lurking scum? Okay, thanks~  :derp:

To expand on Bogmire, I'll also add that I think Remilia is town due to the clear difference in the way they handle the situation of being new to the game. Remilia shows no remorse, and even though she admits she can't do much, she still tries to add to the game as much as she thinks she could. Bogmire on the other hand is completely lurking out the game, and his last post contains an attempt to placate anyone who uses his not-voting against him combined with a placeholder vote on me. This is the demonstrative difference between Newbtown and Newbscum

List of Lynch:
Necro Gardnie
Boggy
Sid
Kukukachoo

Cutx2: Yay~

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #225 on: August 14, 2011, 09:29:41 PM »
Necro Gardna (3) - Count von Count, Pamela Ibis, Ayumu Aikawa
Pamela Ibis (3) - Munak, Bogmire, Necro Gardna
Kukaku Shiba (2) - Reg Shoe, Elizabeth Bathory
Bogmire (1) - Youmu Konpaku
Elizabeth Bathory (1) - Mean Ghost Girl

Not voting: Everyone else

23 hours remain in the day.  With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Bogmire, Mean Ghost Girl, and Reg Shoe have been prodded.

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #226 on: August 14, 2011, 09:36:03 PM »
Ayumu, you ought to be trolled vigged with how unimpressive your last two posts are.

At the moment you are calling Necro's posts "safe" in the case there was a lynch, but because there was none, I find whatever point you were trying to make null.  Necro is "defensive" because people are attacking him.  It's quite natural.  I think you are trying to come up with original reasons for a Necro vote so it looks like you have something to contribute... when in fact you have nothing.  You should have a "concrete" stance already, barring whether Shiba is here or not based on her D1 actions.  You said she was suspicious earlier for "IioA and wagon hop" but yet think that your vote is better placed on Necro for behavior that is less scummy than what you proclaimed Shiba did.  Unless you think seeming "safe" is more scummy than "suspicious for IioA + vote-hop".

I was going to do this before, but I think you've said enough at this point. 

##Soul Eat: Ayumu
You get to have one post before dying, or you die in the next 12 hours.

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #227 on: August 14, 2011, 09:42:51 PM »
Master... You might regret turning your back on me...

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Munak wonders how lady Bathory can be so certain of miss Pamela's alignment.

Munak will apologize to miss Pamela in regards to the three paragraphs.
Munak still thinks that miss Pamela is scum, though.

Did Munak just get cut by a vig?

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #228 on: August 14, 2011, 09:50:58 PM »
It's a delayed vig.  After Ayumu posts his "last words", he will die and the VC will reset.  Otherwise, after 12 hours pass wherein Ayumu doesn't post, he will die and the VC resets.

Kiva-la

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Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #229 on: August 14, 2011, 09:54:42 PM »
Also, if a hammer were to occur in the time between, Ayumu still dies with the lynch.  Obviously I prefer we don't do that.

Den-O

  • Plat Form
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #230 on: August 14, 2011, 10:09:46 PM »
I haven't had time to catch up yet. If we're going to get a flip now, I can work with that.

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #231 on: August 14, 2011, 10:15:58 PM »
I'm not in the mood to give a full summary of Pamela/Necro interactions but suffice it to say I don't find issues with Pamela's D2 posts which makes up for her awful D1 post (it was awful because none of her reads wre explained satisfactorily).  As much as a few of us think that Remilia and Bogmire should be under heavy scrutiny, there are others who are willing to give one or both the Newbie card.  This actually seems to be a point of contention between Necro and Pamela as to what the "right" view is.  This is noise, and in major part was amplified by Necro taking one sentence of Pamela's D1 post and using it against her to justify a vote switch.  I could go on... but I need to examine everybody else because I'm not giving their posts the same attention as Necro/Pamela so far.   

DiEnd

  • DiEnd
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #232 on: August 14, 2011, 10:24:22 PM »
This might seem like a silly question, but why didn't you shoot Necro Gardna? And.. you.. realize if he's scum and doesn't post, we'll have 12 hours to turn a fresh voteless count into a lynch? Why did you wait so long to do this? I'm facepalming so hard right now, we can't be no-lynching again!

Sasword

  • Sasword
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #233 on: August 14, 2011, 10:49:51 PM »
...What? Well, let's hurry this up then.

Necro is probably scum. Bogmire is invisible, he should not reach Lylo. Pamela is probably town. Oh, and Remilia is town. Good day.

Also, Ayumu is a guy. There's your answer folks.

Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #234 on: August 14, 2011, 11:08:21 PM »
Bogmire has requested a replacement.
If one is not found before in the end of N2, then he will be modkilled.

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #235 on: August 14, 2011, 11:12:15 PM »
HERP DERP.  Thanks HW for covering that demasking.

Anyway what I said was,

If it wasn't obvious, that was a fakevig.

Welp.  Ayumu, you passed this test.  But I expect that you explain your reads.  For starters, Why is Necro more likely scum than Shiba?

Also, Thanks for that last bit about your gender.  It was getting annoying reading "her/herself" in the thread.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #236 on: August 14, 2011, 11:22:41 PM »
Just got back from travelling, will post once I get to settle down and catch up.

To answer a quick question, my "secret read" was Arcueid, but she ended up dying, so. >_>

In any case, give me ~5-6 hours to make a substantial post. I can probably make quick posts before then.

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #237 on: August 14, 2011, 11:28:46 PM »
Shiba, can you give another quick post? Off the Cuff, what about Arc did you not like?  This need not be a long answer.

Kabuto

  • Kabuto
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #238 on: August 14, 2011, 11:56:43 PM »
A bit of a summary here: she had a lot of stances, but few of them seemed really fleshed out or particularly clear as to what he felt about their alignment. In addition, I really disliked the nature of her attack on Ayumu.

He went from this:

I think Ayumu is kind of stupid. They seemed surprised that somebody took a second glance at their empty unvote revote, and even more surprised they were asked for a reason in RVS. My kneejerk reaction would've been to vote like you did, but I held off because I don't particularly think that's necessarily a scum action in itself. It seems like a stupid mistake more than a particularly scummy slip.

I'm not particularly sold on this completely clearing it because that could be a stupid mistake scum could make as well, I'm just not going to completely jump at an empty unvote revote as 'SCUM LYNCH IMMEDIATELY.'

To this:

Ayumu: So... Got an excuse for literally not doing jack shit? This is really far too little too late and not impressive at all. Reads as if you're shooting for Bogmire out of a desperate attempt to get the wagon off of you rather than actually thinking their scummy. Yes, Bogmire is doing pretty awfully and trying to stay inconspicious. You are doing the exact same by expressing grievances on Bogmire that are nothing new and acting like this is some huge revelation. Also you've never actually mentioned Bogmire before but you act like you were totally watching him.

This along with the revelation you've been capable of posting but very literally have not in favor of trying to pick apart one sentence from your jokevote who is gaining support to be lynched makes me think you're rather literally the worst scum player I have ever met. I'd be willing to hammer you at this juncture.

It felt like he was using strong language to justify a lynch on a bad player.

Kiva-la

  • Kiva-la
Re: Graveyard Anonymafia - Day 2
« Reply #239 on: August 15, 2011, 12:03:20 AM »
Alright, that makes me feel a lot better.  That last paragraph in particular you quoted was something I was staring at for a while as well.