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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #720 on: June 09, 2009, 03:07:26 PM »
SoEW may suck, but personally I believe it should be beaten simply for completion's sake. I'm honestly surprised I'm one of the only people to have beaten it, because it is the easiest lunatic in the series by far.

Playing a crappy game because you feel obligated to is just silly.  I'd rather play and enjoy the games that I like instead of forcing myself through a bunch of crap just to say I beat everything.  Hell, I haven't even captured half the cards in IN or 1cced MoF on any difficulty above normal simply because I don't feel like doing it.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #721 on: June 09, 2009, 04:47:41 PM »
SoEW should be buried in a lake.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #722 on: June 09, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »
Game overed at Virtue of Wind Goddamnit.  If not for the absolutely horrible and BS death on Lady Ohgane's Fire with 4.25 power, that would have been a Lunatic 1cc.  There were a lot of deaths with one or two power, and Sanae was really ugly (did you know her third noncard actually can wall you?) but I can feel it, I'm so close!

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #723 on: June 09, 2009, 06:25:57 PM »
Playing a crappy game because you feel obligated to is just silly.  I'd rather play and enjoy the games that I like instead of forcing myself through a bunch of crap just to say I beat everything.  Hell, I haven't even captured half the cards in IN or 1cced MoF on any difficulty above normal simply because I don't feel like doing it.

Well, that's just me. But come on, it's not difficult at all, and you only have to do it once. My last hard mode run (which is identical to lunatic except that enemies don't shoot aimed bullets upon death BTW) had me playing until Marisa only dying once, and the death was a suicide on the midboss because I already had max lives. >.>
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #724 on: June 09, 2009, 07:36:15 PM »
I actually beat SoEW on normal, to unlock the extra. After I learned to live with the unfair stuff (as in, the stuff that will kill you no matter what if you don't know what happens next, which, in my opinion, happens quite alot in that game), I managed to beat it...

...and raged as I noticed that you have to beat the game with all shot types to unlock extra. I then beat the game with the other shot types. It was not quite worth it....
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #725 on: June 09, 2009, 07:39:17 PM »
SA Extra cleared without bombing.

I clear it with no lives, because I screw up both hearts, Genetics, and Subterranean Rose... and Polygraph.  There's no excuse for that last one.

Still, I'm pretty pleased with this.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #726 on: June 09, 2009, 07:39:55 PM »
I actually beat SoEW on normal, to unlock the extra. After I learned to live with the unfair stuff (as in, the stuff that will kill you no matter what if you don't know what happens next, which, in my opinion, happens quite alot in that game), I managed to beat it...

...and raged as I noticed that you have to beat the game with all shot types to unlock extra. I then beat the game with the other shot types. It was not quite worth it....
Speaking of which, how do you unlock PoFV Extra?

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #727 on: June 09, 2009, 07:45:21 PM »
Speaking of which, how do you unlock PoFV Extra?

I imagine you have to complete the game on normal with all 12 characters. I've successfully 1cc'd it now with 3 characters (2 of them overpowered, aya and uhh. slow down cloud lady), but no luck. Only character I have yet to beat it with is sunflower lady. I guess I can do that now to check but I'm kinda bored of story mode, played it like 8 times just 2 days ago.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #728 on: June 09, 2009, 07:52:27 PM »
You have to beat the story mode with all chars, from Reimu to Yuuka. Then, Extra will be unlocked only for Komachi. Beat it, and it you'll unlock Sikieiki for it.
After beat Extra with Sikieiki, Story and Extra Mode will be unlocked for all chars. Also, Merlin and Lunasa are unlocked for Match Mode.



Oh...
MS Lunatic 1cc. Mima pwns.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #729 on: June 09, 2009, 07:53:43 PM »
and you only have to do it once.

the unfair stuff (as in, the stuff that will kill you no matter what if you don't know what happens next, which, in my opinion, happens quite alot in that game)

I agree with the second statement, which nullifies the first.  Totally unfair to die because an enemy spawned where you are at the bottom of the screen (LLS at least has the courtesy to have a "danger" marker when it happens), and you have to know where it happens to avoid it.





Speaking of which, how do you unlock PoFV Extra?

I imagine you have to complete the game on normal with all 12 characters.

According to the Touhou wiki (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Flower_View:_Miscellaneous), you can do it on any difficulty.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #730 on: June 09, 2009, 10:48:30 PM »
Getting hit by enemies in SoEW is just as uncommon as any other game. The only exception is the last part of stage 3 on lunatic, because the bouncy balls both fire so many bullets that it's very hard to avoid and if you don't shoot them you're gonna get balled. Let's actually count the amount of times an impossible (to my knowledge) situation occurs:

The green bullet spam from the Magic Stones. Given enough time I may discover an opening if any, but I don't see any right now.

Mima's fourthish orb (forget the name) attack where they spin outward and spawn bullets. They begin firing so soon you barely have time to react and move so fast that they'll likely hit you if you try to move past them. I actually did it by luck once though.

Mima's bouncing star phase is the only 100% impossible attack I see in the game. Given your large hitbox and lack of ability to focus, it is virtually impossible to maneuver. Knowing Touhou it's probably some trick, but no replay I've seen can dodge it either.

Mima's final phase's third attack where she spams large bullets in a pattern. This is BS mostly due to the bullets. The bullets actually have hitboxes larger than the bullets, meaning that this attack requires pixel perfect maneuvering to dodge...without focus.

Other than that, everything is reasonably possible.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #731 on: June 10, 2009, 12:11:34 AM »
Marisa is dumb enough to warrant tons of bombs though. Going through her orbs is REALLY hard and stupid.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #732 on: June 10, 2009, 12:16:11 AM »
It's kind of like what I hear Mushihimesama is like (well...not really :V). The game itself is pretty much filler until the final boss or so, where you need to pump all your resources in to beat. Marisa from legitimate (as far as SoEW goes anyway) difficulty and Mima from her few autobomb attacks and attacks that rely on the game's poor design to be difficult.

I'm not trying to defend SoEW BTW; I agree it's a chore to play. However, it's not near as terrible as people say in terms of BS (which considering how much IS in the game, says a lot :V)
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #733 on: June 10, 2009, 01:41:49 AM »
I tried playing EoSD Hard for the first time today, and somehow managed to 1cc it with 2 lives left on that very same first attempt. I guess all that time spent 1ccing SA Normal was worth it. :P
Replay file: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3564
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #734 on: June 10, 2009, 03:08:34 AM »
I located my windows xp cd finally, so I promptly installed the japanese input, and got the vsync patch going for EoSD. I did absolutely fantastic for me Imo. I only had 2 lives left at the end, but I captured all but the last 2 of Flandre's spellcards. And 2 of my deaths at the end were caused by fingers sweating too much (partially cuz I was excited at how good I was doing, partially due to summer heat), and making me to stupid crap (if you watch it, you'll believe me I promise lol).

I also only used 3 bombs on Flandre the whole run (1 on each of the last 2 spellcards.. uhh.. 1 on some noncard I believe). So I feel pretty proud.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3565

Playing all the other Touhou's has improved my skill so much since I did EoSD. Starbrow break for example is no longer OMFG AAAHH IMMA DIEEE.. It's so strange. I can do maze of love too, and and, catatropiotic or however the hoot you spell it isn't so scary anymore. Cranberry trap seemed easy for the most part. But I admit I had one helluva bs wtf was that dodge going on there that will make you shout "HAX!"

If I practice I can probably accomplish a no bomb run within a day or two. But maybe later.

I must beat all lunatics within a year >=P (more like 11 months now though).

doh I said 5 bombs on flandre the replay listing. It was 3, I used 2 more on Patchy though (Should have capped silent selene, blah. so close).

I STILL can't quite figure out how people cap philosipher's stone reliably though. I keep hearing to move down as little as possible to avoid the black bullets on the right, and the (I think) blue ones on the left, but the red bullets from the middle always aim right at me so I have to move side to side too (which screws up the angle for one of the side bullets), but worst of all are the green ones on the right, Not only do they aim at me, I swear they follow me around >=P (I know they really don't but they are the worst).
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #735 on: June 10, 2009, 03:39:27 AM »
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Cranberry trap seemed easy for the most part. But I admit I had one helluva bs wtf was that dodge going on there that will make you shout "HAX!"

This is why I love Cranberry trap. Even when it kills me, I can always think of the fun times had making ridiculous dodges.

Also, EoSD Extra no bombs.get();
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #736 on: June 10, 2009, 10:04:45 PM »
I JUST PERFECTED THE STAGE PORTION OF IN EXTRA STAGE.

I'M 5/3 ON MOKOU. :DDDDD

I might beat her this time. :V

I'm on the 4th nonspell with 5/1. This is amazing.

6/1 at 5th nonspell. I'm doing wonderfully.

6/0 at HMD, the 5th nonspell is hard so yeah.

Captured Mokou's 6th nonspell (the first rings), at Woo with 6/0

Fail on Woo. 7th nonspell with 5/2. Not bad still.

Captured 7th nonspell! 5/2 at phoenix tail.

5/0 on RoD oh god no

And then I proceed to do fucking horrible on FV. 2/2 on PbP

« Last Edit: June 10, 2009, 10:17:03 PM by Kanako Yasaka »

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #737 on: June 10, 2009, 10:09:10 PM »
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #738 on: June 10, 2009, 10:11:27 PM »
##Rings of Death

Alright, so I (attempted) to stall Yuki+Mai.

Nasty. And I accidentally bombed... Which meant I dealt damage. Mai exploded shortly after 1 bomb.

...I'm going to try this again.

EDIT: Also, shooting Alice from behind the mirror (now that I know what it is). Fun.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #739 on: June 10, 2009, 10:20:57 PM »
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS EBAT MOEKTFOUIN 1!1!!!!

ONE DB ONE DEATH ON HOURAI DOLL WITH 112 POWER NOT BAD YES

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #740 on: June 11, 2009, 12:48:38 AM »
1 bomb clear Stage 4 (stage portion only) MS Lunatic.

...ignoring the embarrassing death that is; clipped by a snowball trying to scorewhore from the PoC.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #741 on: June 11, 2009, 01:20:48 AM »
I did the time-out for Mai and Yuki battle.
As I imagined, Yuki came (I believe it's because she is the bossA).
And figured out something... Yuki+Mai's every phases less the last one is timing out...
What does not matter, cause you still cutting down their HP.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #742 on: June 11, 2009, 01:46:19 AM »
An evening of grinding yields a Q.E.D. capture!  I haven't felt so proud since breaking one million CherryMax, and here it is!  I'm so glad for taking part in this as what I once perceived as one of the hardest Extra stages quickly went to the bottom of the list below PCB Extra and Phantasm.  Unfortunately, I think MoF's Extra is second-hardest to IN.  I'll have to wait for a spark of inspiration to run the stage until it is no longer unfamiliar territory.

History is now 1/12.  As for the run that led up to this, I do feel sorry for pulling some strange antics on Cranberry Trap, among other things.  Capturing the other spells wasn't really on my mind but neither was bombing given the ease of the fight so 11 captures were a 50/50 in a given run.  The shotgun capability is very exciting.

Looking at it again the dodging wasn't very impressive.  I may as well have been running it over until finding an attempt where nothing was thrown that I couldn't handle quickly enough.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #743 on: June 11, 2009, 06:33:14 AM »
Did my first hard 1cc today in EoSD yay.. Not gonna link it cuz it's pretty bad lol.

1ccing a full game is pretty frusterating actually. I frequently die to stuff that never kills me. Rather than being a true challenge it mostly feels like it's just multiple games of "how long can you play without screwing up".

Granted there are some parts that were genuinely hard.. Scarlet meister is the largest example (WTF is it possible!? is it actually noticeably harder on lunatic? Seems like every time I do it, I just DO NOT see an opening.. at all.. ever. it's like.. uhh.. I'm screwed). I mean I've capped hard eternal meek like 10 times in a row (or is that a yawn fest, lunatic only kinda spellcard like emerald megalith), but as soon as scarlet meister stars, AAAACK!!!

I can cap hard scarlet gensokyo about 1/3 of the time.

Anyway, I think after 1ccing the hards, imma just do level select lunatics up the yinyang for a long time. They are alot less frusterating. I mean it's just such a pain to have to reset your whole run all over again cuz you screwed up on levels 1-3 (which shouldn't happen), or doing good on 1-3. and then dying like 3 times on something that ordinarely never kills you on 4. Sooo.. Yer I think imma level select lunatic, and not worry about 1ccing the whole game like that until I've done it enough times to never really have to worry about non-boss situations.

It's funny how much better I play extra stages compared to ordinary stages, and I don't mean stage 5s and 6s. I can beat an extra stage without dying (not boss) on pretty much any Touhou pretty easily, but then I screw up and die on level 2 or something. *facepalm*.

sorry for 2/3 rant 1/3 accomplishment lol. I just thought my first hard 1cc would be more satisfying. But by the end I was so dejected at how bad I sucked at stage 4 (stage 5 wasn't bad, but didn't make up for it either)."hmm should I go for spellcap on eternal meek? why bother, this is so embarrassing I just want it over with. not worth the risk *bomb*.. oh look vampire illusion *bomb*, say I got like 10 of these left *bomb bomb bomb*).

Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #744 on: June 11, 2009, 12:57:52 PM »
WTF is it possible!? is it actually noticeably harder on lunatic? Seems like every time I do it, I just DO NOT see an opening.. at all.. ever. it's like.. uhh.. I'm screwed

Meister is easy on hard ^_- (well...)
Wait 'til you see Lunatic oh god.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #745 on: June 11, 2009, 01:43:55 PM »
I can't cap Scarlet Meister on Hard. D:

Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #746 on: June 11, 2009, 01:52:15 PM »
I can't do Scarlet Meister on Hard consistently either but that's probably due to lack of experience with the spell rather than lack of skill. The lunatic version though is almost impossible.

I mean I've capped hard eternal meek like 10 times in a row (or is that a yawn fest, lunatic only kinda spellcard like emerald megalith), but as soon as scarlet meister stars, AAAACK!!!

Eternal Meek on Hard isn't very tough compared to its Lunatic version. I have captured the hard version time upon time again but never the lunatic. I did cut it very close though. Died at the same time as the spell. Used ReimuA by the way.

Emerald Megalith, yeah that was sure a surprise. I think i have only failed that card twice, one of them being a timeout. It really is no sweat to do on Hard difficulty. I'd almost say the same thing for Bury in Lake.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #747 on: June 11, 2009, 02:02:51 PM »
Total Purification used to be hard?

1/114 for my old Border Team history.
1/1 solo Reimu just now.

Capping a spell card I've already capped isn't really an accomplishment in itself, but it's always nice to actually see improvement in a measurable form like this.


Edit: 1/29 for a Youmu no-focus cap.  I might try to up this to a Youmu no-focus timeout.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2009, 02:16:32 PM by Krim »
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #748 on: June 11, 2009, 03:38:25 PM »




...whut.  Well that was over quickly (like, four attempts and less than 24 hours O_o), but whatever I'll take it.  MS lunatic 1cc with Youkai Moe~.  So what was that whole thing about her being unusable on lunatic?  ;)

And yes, I didn't have the unicode set on japanese when I played this, because I'm cool like that.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #749 on: June 11, 2009, 04:46:16 PM »
I haven't felt so proud since breaking one million CherryMax...

WHAT!?  :o
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