Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Beyond the Border~ => Sara's Audio-Visual Import-Overflow Retail => Topic started by: MayKissingDoveWyks on November 21, 2010, 02:13:07 PM
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"So...basically, I'm doing a sort of casting call for an MotK Jazz Combo, mostly for touhou remixes though open to other things. I realize it's difficult to actually do sessions together over the internet, but I think it can be workable possibly using Skype or some other conference call stuff, and maybe using Audacity for recording individual parts and putting them together. I mean, it shouldn't be impossible. If anyone has any ideas in this vein, please provide them."
This is going to remain the same basis as before. We can do improvs. If anyone wants to provide a rhythm line to create another song for us to work on, that's great! But most cases, I will try and attempt to provide a bass line/riff to get us going. Touhou arranges first (once I can work most of the themes), and then some original stuff. (La Villa Strangiato Squonk covers would be fun to do as well!) Like above, this is open to other things as well.
Please come to the IRC channel, #motkjazz, on the ppirc.net to come talk to me or the secretary, UK. Also so we can exchange information and ideas frequently. UK and I usually will be on during the day according to GMT-5.
Current Projects:
Phantom Ensemble
Improvs Holding off on this until I can figure some shit out.
Anything else
La Villa Strangiato (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=593xyObzI8Y)/Cygnus X-1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkIIlkyZ328) (If anyone's in on that)
I want reconfirmation on this list:
Alto Sax:
UncertainKitten
animecello
Drums:
Watermelonz
Piano/Keyboard:
MusicalMeme
Drake (Maybe)
Trumpet:
Nobu
Clarinet:
triangles (maybe)
Zakenna
Flute:
MusicalMeme
Bass Guitar:
ghost333
SkyMovingSideways
Regular Guitar:
SkyMovingSideways (checked in)
All the tests are later in the thread (around pages 2-4) but any later stuff will be posted normally.
Completed songs will be posted here in the OP.
Lasty, let's have a jolly good time with this!
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Preserved for History bullshit:
OK, so, earlier this year, I had an idea for creating an MotK jazz band, but I forgot about it. But, in #meido tonight we were discussing things and stuff about music, and that reminded me this.
So...basically, I'm doing a sort of casting call for an MotK Jazz Combo, mostly for touhou remixes though open to other things. I realize it's difficult to actually do sessions together over the internet, but I think it can be workable possibly using Skype or some other conference call stuff, and maybe using Audacity for recording individual parts and putting them together. I mean, it shouldn't be impossible. If anyone has any ideas in this vein, please provide them.
But, right now, I want warm bodies. But I'll warn you, I'm really out of practice, and bad at theory, so we might be slow starting. I play Alto Sax. I'll list the other instruments I want. If yours isn't listed, but you are still interested, feel free to make a case for how your instrument would contribute.
All that said, feel free to sign up, and I'll probably ask for auditions later if we have a lot of interest.
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Signing up for piano!
However, could we do a rock band instead? Or at least, sometimes do rock tracks? I tend to prefer that over jazz. (Though jazz DOES have its awesome moments... Where's that one Till When arrange? )
EDIT: Here it is! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpYEsET-Rkc) (May be unnecessary, I just happen to love this arrange)
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Depends on what everyone else says. I mean, sax kinda doesn't have a lot of rock versatility, and unless it's prog rock it's...um...well...rock...isn't that interesting. At all.
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i play piano
my piano sucks though
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I presume you are still volunteering, Drake?
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I'm trying to get my hands on a Bass Guitar, but I have some skills with a "Not Bass Guitar :V"
I work with a Jazz Ensemble at school, so this might be fun...
I don't have much knowledge in Music Theory, except maybe for some rhythms and applications.
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I'll put you down for "Not Bass" Guitar then and change it if your situation changes :P.
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Of course. It's actually entirely possible I buy a hold pedal, run over to Best Buy and record off their public keyboards :V
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I'll put you down for "Not Bass" Guitar then and change it if your situation changes :P.
So wait? One instrument per?
You said probable auditions, nvm.
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Yeah. Basically, I've put a lot up there and will decide what sort of band make up will work once I have an idea of what's available. If there are a lot of people, we might be able to double instruments in interesting ways. If there are only a few though, I can't imagine I can get away with more than one person per instrument.
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Yo, the atelier is over there, two boards up.
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I play piano, and I'm really good! :V
But yeah, I'm interested, as long as I don't have to improvise. I'm terrible at that.
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You all know what I play and how I sound by clicking the sig link :V
Though fair warning due to my job and OMG HOUSE GET there is no way I can contribute to arranging or mixing. Just mixing 3-4 tracks for my own stuff was crazy enough for me to manage. Heck, I'm not sure what sort of availability I'll have because I sure haven't had any time to buckle down and practice/record my own music stuff up (sitting on an arrange of Extend Ash on my music stand that I need to record from, uh, July :fail:)
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Buy me a vibraphone and I will play vibraphone.
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Depends on what everyone else says. I mean, sax kinda doesn't have a lot of rock versatility, and unless it's prog rock it's...um...well...rock...isn't that interesting. At all.
/me pulls your tail
Now...what were you saying about rock? :/
PS: I might have a friend that'll definitely be interested in playing sax. I know two drummers as well buuuut....I dunno if they're willing to play Touhou music (one doesn't care about the series, the other is busy as hell). And I got some people who definitely plays music over at the Anime Club and are really interested into Touhou so I can check with them :P
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Yo, the atelier is over there, two boards up.
Yo, a mod named Kilgamayan told me to put this here, and your name isn't blue, but ~*~thank you~*~ for your concern ^-^.
@Fightest: I'll put you down and figure out the details
@triangles: Should I even put you down then? I'd like to make practice at least semi regular, well, group practice.
@N Forza: As cool as that would be, that assumes I have ~*~money~*~
@GPop: If you think any of those will work, go for it. What type of sax though? I'd like to avoid doubling sax parts if possible unless I have a lot more people than I think I will. But a Tenor, Baritone, or Soprano sax could be cool.
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I'd totally support this as a Trumpet part!
However, currently I do not own a trumpet. Isn't it sad? Yes it is. ;_;
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I can do trumpet. \o/ I can take Keri's place until he gets a trumpet, or we can just be dueling duo-buddies, or w/e.
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I can play bass, mandolin, guitar or banjo, but all I own are an acoustic guitar and a banjo.
If it matters, I'd prefer banjo. Not sure how jazzy that is. Unless you're going for a Dixieland sound.
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Piano (only if really drastically last resort though ahahaha my piano is all out of tune and I'm out of practice :V )
I can do clarinet (and bass clarinet if needed) though. Rather prefer clarinet so I wouldn't have to haul the other one to and from school, but either is fine.
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@Keri: Well, lemme know when you do.
@Nobu: Awesome, putting you down for it.
@Ammy: I'd prefer acoustic guitar, to be honest. You can do cool shit with acoustic.
@PC: We apparently have piano players out the ass, so I'll put you down for clarinet.
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@triangles: Should I even put you down then? I'd like to make practice at least semi regular, well, group practice.
I doubt I could make any sort of coordinated Skype practice if that's what your asking (I also am really not at all certain that'd work very well) but that's also an issue with timezones as well as us full-time school/job folks.
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I'm not entirely sure how to do this myself. Skype comes to mind first, but it's really shitty software, at least for me. I'd LIKE to find something better for conferencing, and am quite open to ideas.
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I don't have the time to do any of my own digging, but I'm sure there are resources online to help with this project. Especially with all the buzz about 'Youtube bands' and the like, I'm sure you can get some good ideas by poking around and seeing what those groups have done.
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everyone just meet at my house k
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mmm I used to play clarinet but it's been 3 years since I've done anything serious with it . I've been playing the recorder lately though but it's still rough.
either way I'd be down to record something as long as someone actually does the arranging(sheet music) stuff. I can possibly lend a hand at it but I'm rather busy and rather rusty at the music theory stuff (last time I took it was freshman year of college back about 2 years ago)
also I don't think skype would be a good idea. With the delay inherent in conference calls/VoIP it'll make dragging/rushing a compounded problem. Especially if everyone is compensating due to the lack of a conductor. The best route is to distribute a synthesized version of the arrangement and a synthesized version of the part. That way you have a level bar for everyone to practice with. Then you layer everyone's recordings together to make a digi ensemble. leave skype for the pep talks and organizational stuff.
Another problem that would come up is the final product how do we record it? If we're all using different standards of microphones/sound cards/equalizers(or lack thereof)
I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there but thats just a thought to chew on it really shouldn't impact the practice part of this though.
Flute:
1. triangles (maybe)
actually I think she plays clarinet...all the videos in her youtube channel are of clarinet
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...I feel like a derpsicle! I'll fix it. For some reason I thought triangles played flute :S.
And thanks for the advice Zakenna, that's actually a really good idea. The way you suggested.
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I can play drums but I dont have a set :V
I can also play pianooo
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Think you'll be getting a set any time soon, Suikama? Because drums are *really* important.
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Think you'll be getting a set any time soon, Suikama? Because drums are *really* important.
Well my brirthday is soon *winkwinknudgenudge*
But no my mom will not tolerate drums in the house :3
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Hmm...a shame. Is there anyway for you to get access to a drum set, at least enough to practice/record and such?
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I do play flute just not very well nor do I own one :V
My recommendation is to hook up a solo instrument + piano/geetar and make a proof of concept before having a dozen tracks to combine. Which you have enough volunteers of right now!
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This is a good idea as well, triangles. I can work with one of the pianists. Who wants to volunteer :V?
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I got my bass today, so I'll be able to play that instead of "Not Bass Guitar".
I still have to wait 20 days before using it though...
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That's fine, not sure how long it'll take to get off the ground, since we pretty much NEED drums, unless someone has other ideas?
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Well you could use a drum machine. You can set up a Jazz drum set sound in Garageband.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKCu1ZDzoZc
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I can play drums quite proficiently. The problem I have is that I don't have proper recording equipment. Trying to record percussion instruments without the right equipment makes it sound reaaaally bad.
I also have available access to a vibraphone. If you need a vibraphone player, I'll be more than happy to contribute.
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This is a good idea as well, triangles. I can work with one of the pianists. Who wants to volunteer :V?
I'm game. Whatcha want me to do?
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Gonna be boring for you, Fightest :P. Record me...eh, 3 sets of 12 bar blues to randomly do shit over. Your key should be...ah, fucking circle of fifths...um...F, if that's not too hard? I probably need F minor since I'd be fucking around on the blues scale. (So, actually, this is probably a huge pain in the ass for you, sorry ^-^;)
And then I'll record over that, and we'll see how it goes together or something.
@Watermelonz: Hmm...is there any place you can go to record properly, or anything like that? I do know that recording algorithms ARE hard on percussion, so I understand the need for good equipment.
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If we end up doing "something else", I'm game for the other instruments I said I have.
But I'll still keep bass if you want me to.
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Yeah, we'll figure this out, hopefully :V.
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I'm still srs about this, btw. Just waiting for Fightest to get to me so I can test the idea of assembling things piecemeal.
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I once tried playing with someone over skype
it failed horribly. even a few milliseconds of lag can make stuff sound like crap...
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Yeah. I think the Skype idea is out. We're basically going to have to draft music and record tracks over each other. It's suboptimal, but still workable, I think. I want to test with Fightest though.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKCu1ZDzoZc
Looks like i'll need to invest in a black tank top and glasses. :3
...and a trumpet. I have a cornet, but they're not exactly the same. orz
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Yeah. I think the Skype idea is out. We're basically going to have to draft music and record tracks over each other. It's suboptimal, but still workable, I think. I want to test with Fightest though.
Or just record tracks separately? And then have you mix them together?
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:* I'd go for flute~<3!
... Is what I'd like to say, but I'm not too good with Flutes myself unless I memorize stuff, so I'm... not really confident about making a flawless flute melody >_<;;...
/me 's school music lessons only taught us basic Flute stuff
...Though now I'm inspired to practice more~
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I might possibly be recording something tomorrow maybe. Perchance.
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I want to test with Fightest though.
I'm really sorry about the delays, it's been a busy week. I'll get something done tomorrow.
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It's fine. Either you or Drake can. Or hell, both of you. Could be interesting to see how you handle it :P.
Or just record tracks separately? And then have you mix them together?
The problem with doing it all separately is it's harder to sync well. You at least need SOMETHING to keep rhythm, at least I would think. So what I'm thinking is building on top of each other. Starting with the rhythmy sections, and then putting the melodic parts on top. Actually, a fused approach could work as well. Basically having everyone record over the completed rhythm track, and then pulling out the melody tracks and putting it all together that way, so everyone is on the same beat but not having to fight with other tracks...or something like that.
I think it could work like that.
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Just make sure you keep backups of the separate tracks if you want to build the song as it moves along, in case of an accident.
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Oh, of course. Keeping back ups is always a given.
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All right, this is the very first time I've improvised blues, so be gentle. Is this the sort of thing you're looking for, UK, or should I be doing something different?
Sorry about the background noise, I'll have to wait until the evening when there's less traffic outside to record properly.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/8gld35e25vbvej9/blues1.mp3
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More actual *stuff* than I wanted, actually, but perfectly usable, and actually pretty fun, I think. You only did one set though.
Well, either way, I'll play something over it sometime this weekend, probably tomorrow morning. Thank you ^-^.
/me dislikes playing with parents around
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More actual *stuff* than I wanted, actually, but perfectly usable, and actually pretty fun, I think. You only did one set though.
It was a trial run geez :(
If it was the right kind of stuff, then I'll do another two generic sets. Still in F minor?
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It was a trial run geez :(
If it was the right kind of stuff, then I'll do another two generic sets. Still in F minor?
Sorry, I misunderstood. And yes, certainly.
And again, while it was more than I expected, it was a good more. Stuff like that is a good basis ^-^.
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I do have a Audio Station that allows me to hook up instruments and run it through my computer.
It might get a cleaner sound, I suppose.
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Alright, here's a second set. I'm suffering imagination fail at the moment, so I can't think of a way I can make a third less-featured-than-the-first-one set without it being functionally identical to the second one. UK, any tips?
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Ach, sorry, you misunderstood me. I meant 36 measures, not a progression in the first 12 bars. Admittedly? It's pretty cool and gives it more flavor IMO :P.
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OK. Warning, I am out of practice, so this isn't really the best I can do. But I think it serves to illustrate this might work. I added a 5ish second gap at the start so I could prepare and get everything minimized so Audacity doesn't do dumb stuff. It might not be a bad idea to tap out a beat at the start of the recording in the future, like two measures of it.
EDIT: Relistened to it. Sorry, it's worse than I thought. I'll try to put out something better sometime this week.
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You want me to record anything with the guitar I have, so at least I can test the sound out?
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Sure, go for it ^-^.
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OK. Warning, I am out of practice, so this isn't really the best I can do. But I think it serves to illustrate this might work. I added a 5ish second gap at the start so I could prepare and get everything minimized so Audacity doesn't do dumb stuff. It might not be a bad idea to tap out a beat at the start of the recording in the future, like two measures of it.
EDIT: Relistened to it. Sorry, it's worse than I thought. I'll try to put out something better sometime this week.
Oh it's not too bad. It's, uh, a good first step! That's what it is!
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Well, while you're here, do you feel like making a version where you tap out two measures of beat so I don't have to guess at the start ^-^?
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Well, while you're here, do you feel like making a version where you tap out two measures of beat so I don't have to guess at the start ^-^?
Will do this evening.
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Here's a two-measures-tapped-out version. Uh, unfortunately in the excitement I not only didn't actually start the piece itself on a real beat, but also have a hiccup towards the end. If you don't like it, I'll re-record. Also, I'll have to get a better microphone setup, but that'll have to wait 'til Saturday.
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The gap'll throw me off, I think. But I like the tune ^-^. If you can make it so you're starting right after the beat, that'd be awesome. And if you want to wait til Saturday that's fine.
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Oh well, wasn't even able to get a good microphone, so I just took the old track and messed around with it, so it's on-beat now. Sorry for the lack of effort.
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It's fine, we're still trying to hammer things out. I'll give it a listen when I get a chance, and don't have a headache.
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I dunno if you want another alto sax (that would be me), but I think one alto sax in a JAZZ band isn't enough :)
So like, yeah. you want a recording or something?
I also play the cello, but that seems kinda... weird for a jazz band.
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Well, it mostly depends on the concentrations of other instruments. Above all we need a balance, which seems hard to reach right now. Regardless, I'll put you down and figure out how to make it work. To be honest I'm considering revolving instrumentation so that most of us can play, and having multiples of the same instrument only when necessary. Course, this also means I need to figure out how to get all the recording stuff to work properly.
Oh, and learn how to play sax again :V. Need to get back in the habit of practicing, really.
EDIT: Huh...actually, multiple instruments can work with the distribution we have, I think.
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Oh, about how to make the music work.
If you give everyone music and a tempo, they can record it separately, and putting them all together will be a piece of cake. Glenn Miller style.
However, (improvised) solos and just plain jamming would be hard, because skype and other suck programs have about a second of lag, so staying in time will be impossible.
I'll upload me playing something tomorrow. (when it isn't almost one in the morning)
Edit: I created #motkjazz on ppirc for the lulz, so go ahead and join.
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So, anyway, here's the deal. I'm juggling lots of stuff at the moment and am not sure when I can kick this off. Regardless, I should be able to do more organizating after the New Year. So, short hiatus on the planning until New Years (though feel free to propose ideas).
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That's fine. I just need to get used to my new bass...
Again, I still haven't test my audio station, but I'll try and test it soon.
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i got a stage piano, so you could list me for piano, or organ, or flute, if ya ever need it.
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FLUTE!? DID YOU SAY FLUTE!?
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
/me hugs Sercan!
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Anything new, UK?
We lightin' this candle?
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I know I forgot to post somewhere. Yeah, we will be. I'll see if I can produce something slightly better tomorrow to tests Fightest's thing. From there I guess I need to figure out if I'm going to cut anyone or just do it as "This piece needs X parts. You, you, and you fight over Part Y, the rest of you are fine since their is no contention"
I'm leaning towards the latter.
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Okay then...
I was going to ask that if we do overdubs for guitar parts, I would be willing to do some overdubs for them.
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Ok, going to express my ignorance here. I think I understand what you mean but I'd rather be told so I know certainly rather than get the wrong idea.
How do you mean overdubs? Like playing guitar over whatever rhythm/part thingies we get done?
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How do you mean overdubs? Like playing guitar over whatever rhythm/part thingies we get done?
Yeah basically.
Any extra little ditties, riffs, or just a second guitar track.
I can do it if you want.
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Sure, give it a shot.
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Oh hey I kept my promise! Thank Umineko's "far", which is surprisingly easy on sax. Remind me to get a decent recording of that sometime.
This is significantly better than the other one, though far from perfect.
And it works well, thank you Fightest.
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Also, I've taken ownership of the #motkjazz channel if anyone needs to poke me on ppirc.
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Oh manz srs'd business times!
I would like everyone to play a little improv for me and upload it on their preferred instrument
Ask Fightest for a key. I'd like this over 3 sets of 12 bar blues, or 36 measures. Then play over Fightest's recording to see how they gel. From there I'll figure out what styles suit who, and I can sorta break things down into sub bands for certain pieces.
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Ran four sample tests trying to test out the MIDI recording box that I have in Audacity.
I will do more improvs, maybe some riffs. Guitar testing will be done when I finish replacing the strings on it.
This is mostly done by finger, but some slapping caused it to peak several times on one of the tests, I think....
First one was a riff I improv'd
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Another bass improv riff done.
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This is really bad, but whatever.
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Has this thing grinded to a halt, UK? Or are we still just waiting for the improvs?
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Waiting for improvs, really. Though it seems people stopped caring so...
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Well... you and I can work on something then. I'm still interested.
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I still need to get back in practice. It's been a busy start to the year, what with being a RESPONSIBILITY CHAMPION and all. Things should be sorting out a bit now though.
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Attempted to do some musical typing in GarageBand... sort of worked...
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Two tests using Jazz Presets.
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Glam preset
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Second Glam preset
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Rock preset.
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I'd love to Participate, but you seem to have a surplus on pianists, and I doubt that an oboe would work very well in a jazz band. Also, am very out of practice. I wish you luck and hope to see what happens with this.
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May or may not do another converter box test this time...
But I do want to get some real riffs made.
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All right, confession time guys.
I fucked up. I thought I could just do everything I wanted and the world was my plaything. Turns out I was wrong. I am HORRIBLY overcommitted to stuff right now and quite frankly can't lead a band effectively.
If someone wants to take over, please, do. I still should have time to be a member. But...I'm sorry about starting something and not being able to finish it. I just couldn't keep up...
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I volunteer myself as the new leader of the project.
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I'll note SMS has done a lot of work for this, and he'd probably be quite capable, so I certainly support his leadership for this.
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We're going to have to talk about what is put into the OP....
because I don wanna start a new thread.
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Yeah. Well, you can always poke me on IRC when I'm on. Which I am now.
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Already done :V
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Signing up for piano!
However, could we do a rock band instead? Or at least, sometimes do rock tracks? I tend to prefer that over jazz. (Though jazz DOES have its awesome moments... Where's that one Till When arrange? )
EDIT: Here it is! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpYEsET-Rkc) (May be unnecessary, I just happen to love this arrange)
i would prefer some rock tracks too.
btw i play bass guitar
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I would like to hear anything that should be appealing from an experimental perspective; there are too many modest, unremarkable rock bands in today's modern era. Plug your amp in incorrectly and then play something ear-shatteringly gruesome.... then funnel it into a synthesiser, amplify the bass, and contrive to edit the sound in a manner that would typically be considered unorthodox. Behold; you now have the musical incarnation of ectoplasm.
*Exhales dramatically* Phew, that took some courage to post.
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i would prefer some rock tracks too.
btw i play bass guitar
Already said that we will do other things.
Added.
I would like to hear anything that should be appealing from an experimental perspective; there are too many modest, unremarkable rock bands in today's modern era. Plug your amp in incorrectly and then play something ear-shatteringly gruesome.... then funnel it into a synthesiser, amplify the bass, and contrive to edit the sound in a manner that would typically be considered unorthodox. Behold; you now have the musical incarnation of ectoplasm.
*Exhales dramatically* Phew, that took some courage to post.
So what are you asking for? Please clarify because I really don't understand what you're asking.
Do you want us to actually construct something worth listening to? or are you requesting us to play a certain way?
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Here's a sample of how I play drumset. It's mostly jazz-ish. The first part is a solid, even rhythm. The second part has a swing feel.
This isn't an actual recording, but a program that I use. I don't have recording equipment for my drumset yet, so this is currently the only way to showcase how I play, for now
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That. Is. Awesome! You're excellent.
Can't wait to hear more once we get more stuff going along.
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Here's a sample of how I play drumset. It's mostly jazz-ish. The first part is a solid, even rhythm. The second part has a swing feel.
This isn't an actual recording, but a program that I use. I don't have recording equipment for my drumset yet, so this is currently the only way to showcase how I play, for now
very nice
i liked it a lot
just 2 things can u turn the volume up a bit?
and can u give me a longer track?
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Oh hey there children. (no i'm the child ;w;)
I guess I should say something about how I'm not really dead... or maybe not?
I really should check this here thread more often.
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Yeah. Still waiting for some check ins and then we can get started. I just need ideas for how we gonna start this thing or what else we can do here.
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Hm... I think I'm going to drop out of this. I don't really think I'm going to be able to manage to fit into something like this honestly.
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Alright then.
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Yeah. Still waiting for some check ins and then we can get started. I just need ideas for how we gonna start this thing or what else we can do here.
the best way is to decide on a touhou track or whatelse u have in mind.
after that usually the drummer+basser is going to make the rhythm OR the solo instrument is going to rec the melody , and everybody else plays according to what we have.
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Lolz, I just joined the boards right now. -o- First post!
If this project is still going on, I can play flute and piano, though I'm not very good at improvising ^^;;
I can sing, too, but my voice is pretty high and bright (think Yellow Zebra + a smidge of IOSYS-ish timbre)
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added.
EDIT: Ghost, I'm having some difficulty trying to record a track to the funky bass line.
the best way is to decide on a touhou track or whatelse u have in mind.
after that usually the drummer+basser is going to make the rhythm OR the solo instrument is going to rec the melody , and everybody else plays according to what we have.
The bass tracks work fine, but we might need clear sound just for the sake of passing it around to others.
I'll work on some riffs, pick a Touhou track or two to study from, and I'll come back with what I have.
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SMS i think it is better the melody to be recorded first becuase i am not quite sure for how long i am going to keep a riff and then change to the chorus(Or sth like that)
Also as you are the manager/projecl leader plz choose a song , i feel kind of a lot of responsibility :P
btw the above records were just for fun and ideas. I will try to rec a better quality and a proper 3 min song preperly structured. Should i rec with drum machine for now or leave it out?
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Use a metronome to help you keep beat. Yeah, doing practice recordings are fine.
I'm currently trying to compose a riff into tab so I can play it several times. I'll do several others, each with chorus and maybe outros.
Arrange-wise, I was thinking either Septette for the Dead Princess, Phantom Ensemble, or Forsaken Doll.
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All 3 of them are fine! phantom ensemble> my favorite
btw after my exercises i rec 2 things that might give u sth...
it is in A !
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We'll do Phantom Ensemble because right now I just got some of the main theme down.
I'll see what I can do with bass you gave me. And maybe incorporate my riff into it.
I wanted maybe some cover suggestions, besides the ones I listed on the main page. For this, I seriously want feedback from more than one member, please.
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Tested what I had of Phantom Ensemble with my guitar.
It was a pain in the ass trying to get it right each time.
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"Phantom Ensemble" is a great song! I could make sheets for everybody who's participating though I'm a bit slow...
Should I upload my stuff too? o.o
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You can upload your stuff.
Sheets are alright to make, I just need the basic line and the lead. Then from there I want to add stuff on to it that is melodic to the line.
EDIT: I also caught hearing some of the acoustic guitar in the opening. I just can't seem to figure it out.
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Sheets would help, though worst to worst I can pick up a thing by ear.
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Attempt to make a chord melody
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The 3333.mp3 that i uped before have a wrong note, so u better del it. i am going to rec something else another time
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Haha man, I never noticed this since it wasnt in the Atelier =p Is it still goin on? Can I join? Bout the only thing I have goin for me is the guitar, but im not too shabby on it if I do say so myself~
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I noticed ya'll were workin on phantom ensemble. So I recorded the verse real quick for a resume.
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Well, I swung by the IRC channel for this project and noone was there =/ If this is a dead project, id be very interested in seeing it revived. Heres another sample ive been working on with some more finger style stuff and the next part of the song.
Theres another guy ive worked with alot who I dont believe is a member of this forum, but if you'd like me to contact him, he could throw a bass line on top of anything we give him within a couple of days.
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Ive never done jazz before, so im not sure how to model my amp for a lead guitar. Heres a sample of an improv line over a phantom ensemble rhythm part though, so if ya have any pointers as to which knobs to turn, lemme know xD
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u got me fired up again.....
i am getting my bass ready
i will try sth
in what key did u record the above?
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u got me fired up again.....
i am getting my bass ready
i will try sth
Haha awesome, I couldnt find any samples of you playin so im lookin forward to it. Was playin in B at around 190 bpm if ya wanna jam on mine. Or just record whatever and we'l go from there~
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in B :P
pretty lame but i am trying at least.....
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Well no problem with your playin, im just not quite sure where the song fits into that =p Can ya play the lead line over it so that I know where it fits in? Also, that first note is in B, but it changes from there. The lower part of that acoustic rhythm line I was playin went somthin along the lines of, B, A, A flat, G, back up to A. Dont quote me on any of this xD I dont actually know any musical theory, im just goin from what my guitar tuner tells me.
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another aproach a bit morry cathcy :P
a dont mind that i wasn't jamming over you :P
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another aproach a bit morry cathcy :P
a dont mind that i wasn't jamming over you :P
Oooh I like that second one. Gimme a bit kay~?
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with a bit tempo up.
chords: B ,E,A.B, repeat
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Not pulled off very cleanly, but was something like this what ya had in mind?
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Wow yeap, but i need do it better...........
also i rec with a mic , sorry for my quality
Damn i also made a mistake i think during the last rec :(
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Haha ditto =p Alright, ill keep practicin on that one then. Aaaand... Im not to keen on the structure of jazz songs to be honest, but Id say we repeat that part 4 times or so then kick into the next verse. Whatcha think =O?
Haha were just workin on song structure for the moment, so no need to worry about quality or mistakes. Once we decide how the song will flow together, we can go for that perfect recording.
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i am not to keen myself, i usually play rock!
Also i am not very good in structure too so dont expect miracles :P
4-5 times sound good to me, now for the next verse,hmnnn i dont have any ideas (perhaps go a bit more frenzy? or with bigger note durations? u seem more experienced so i will leave it to u!
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i am not to keen myself, i usually play rock!
Also i am not very good in structure too so dont expect miracles :P
4-5 times sound good to me, now for the next verse,hmnnn i dont have any ideas (perhaps go a bit more frenzy? or with bigger duration? u seem more experienced so i will leave it to u!
Haha same here, metal is more my cup of tea XD Jazz is fine too though, I just have to kinda learn as I go along.
Alright, well we should prolly wait for some input from some of other members anyway yeah =p? I'll keep thinkin on that next verse though. Ill put up a sample if I come up with anything, so feel free to do the same~
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Lets wait for other people too ,especially someone that can play the drums.
Metal you say? just put some overdrive/distortion in, and i will think of a bass line or just go for the usual root-fifth-octave combo, it works like a jewel :P
jazz with a sudden metal turn, quite the thing i must say.
And i can't record anymore is already too late here, soon the cops will arrive or the neighbors are going to shoot me with a gun!
anyway let's wait
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Lets wait for other people too ,especially someone that can play the drums.
Metal you say? just put some overdrive/distortion in, and i will think of a bass line or just go for the usual root-fifth-octave combo, it works like a jewel :P
jazz with a sudden metal turn, quite the thing i must say.
And i can't record anymore is already too late here, soon the cups will arrive or the neighbors are going to shoot me with a gun!
anyway let's wait
Haha personally I think a metal bridge of some sort would be awesome, but I dunno how it would fly with everyone else XD And thats cool brah, we have those crazy fools tellin us to turn the music down around here too =p I'll hold off on messin with that next verse till tomorrow then. Catch ya later.
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It's not dead per se, but I haven't seen SMS in forever, and I tend to be busy. I lurk the channel when I'm online though.
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It's not dead per se, but I haven't seen SMS in forever, and I tend to be busy. I lurk the channel when I'm online though.
I'm busy during the day, you know. ;~;
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"I realize it's difficult to actually do sessions together over the internet, but I think it can be workable possibly using Skype or some other conference call stuff, and maybe using Audacity for recording individual parts and putting them together. I mean, it shouldn't be impossible. If anyone has any ideas in this vein, please provide them."
Well, all the collaboration stuff Ive ever done has just been using that second method. So we could prolly get by without skype =p Just gotta make sure everyone is in the correct tuning and use a metronome, or provided we can get a drum track, that. So, first things first would be song structure. I'll be workin on that over the next few days and posting samples as I go along. So if ya hear something ya don't like, or something ya think should be changed, just lemme know~ Also feel free to jam over whatever im recording, or post your own stuff and I guarantee ill jump in XD After thats all done, we simply record the parts separately and hand them over to a mixer in, .wav format for quality. I dont think I should do that part since im pretty terrible at mixing xD and thats that~
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Theres another guy ive worked with alot who I dont believe is a member of this forum, but if you'd like me to contact him, he could throw a bass line on top of anything we give him within a couple of days.
Hi, that's me I guess, just thought I'd check in as I'm always up for collaboration. The thing I like to play most is lead guitar but I can also do bass, or perhaps drum sequencing at a push. I'm not sure if I'm suited for jazz though, we'll see
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welcome to the forums
and good to have another one around
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Hi, that's me I guess, just thought I'd check in as I'm always up for collaboration. The thing I like to play most is lead guitar but I can also do bass, or perhaps drum sequencing at a push. I'm not sure if I'm suited for jazz though, we'll see
Yo amigo :D
No worries man, Ive never done jazz before either, but its fun stuff XD Anywho, honestly your better than me on guitar, so if ya wanna take lead thats cool. I can stick to acoustic stuff, but we have another guitar player as well so we gotta fit him in. Ghosty here is pretty competent on bass it seems so I think thats covered~
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Haha well its not lookin good as far as other members of the band =p Out of all the people Ive contacted, only Nobu got back to me with a maybe. So, so far we have 3 people capable on a guitar, 3 on a bass, one who can do a drum sequence. Possibly a trumpet, and possibly a sax. I dunno if were gonna have the instruments for a jazz song XD but worse comes to worst we can always do a rock arrange I guess. Have more than enough members for that~
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Here ghosty, 3/4 timing at 200 bpm
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Here ghosty, 3/4 timing at 200 bpm
thx a lot but i am going to dive into it tomorrow :(
i have to go in a social event or sth LOL
btw 200bpm? .
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thx a lot but i am going to dive into it tomorrow :(
i have to go in a social event or sth LOL
btw 200bpm? .
No worries amigo, I know timezones are screwin with us anyway XD
And yeah, 200 bpm in waltz timin.
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Random riffs, pro quo.
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Random riffs, pro quo.
Haha kinda reminds me of Primus XD I'll mess with it some tomorrow, at least some parts anyway. Alot of em change around to frequently for me to really follow consistently.
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Random riffs, pro quo.
Couldn't really play over the track since its not really organized, but heres what I got from playin around with that riff you played at :50.
Also, good news children~ I heard back from our watermelon drummer, and he's still ready to go. Unfortunately he wont be able to record any actual drums xD but he's offered to do some sequencing which should take some of the load off of Shan. So, we have a couple options. We can wait on some more instruments for the jazz arrange, preferably some kind of brass instrument and a piano. We can go ahead with the jazz arrange now and see if one of us can sequence some extra instruments. Hopefully it will come out realistic enough, but it wont be the same as a live recording =p Or we can go for a rock arrange of it, which we have more than enough instruments to cover.
Whaty'all wanna do?
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Couldn't really play over the track since its not really organized, but heres what I got from playin around with that riff you played at :50.
Also, good news children~ I heard back from our watermelon drummer, and he's still ready to go. Unfortunately he wont be able to record any actual drums xD but he's offered to do some sequencing which should take some of the load off of Shan.
I guess I am no longer needed ;_;
Well, that's fine, if there's any miscellaneous guitar or bass parts needed I'm more than happy to help out.
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I guess I am no longer needed ;_;
Well, that's fine, if there's any miscellaneous guitar or bass parts needed I'm more than happy to help out.
Haha thats the point amigo =p Watermelonz can handle drums so you can concentrate on lead guitar with Sky.
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Anyway yeah, since I can't send PMs yet I had no choice but to post in this thread.
SMS, if you want to bounce lead guitar ideas off me or discuss anything please don't hesitate to send me an email
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SMS seems to be getting really busy, and is considering resigning. If that happens, do you want to take over, flamezero? You already seem to be doing so :V.
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Eh, I dont wanna be in charge though... That way, I cant be blamed when the project sinks XD
Also, resigning from organizing or altogether (including guitar playin)?
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Not sure which yet, he'll have to elaborate. He just said he'd be really busy these next two months.
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So yeah, I'm still playing sax.
I'm just gonna be really busy for the next three weeks or so. (lolol middle school uil sucks durr)
But I got a fancy new condenser mic, so I'm all happy. I didn't read the thread or anything, but do we have music?
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So yeah, I'm still playing sax.
I'm just gonna be really busy for the next three weeks or so. (lolol middle school uil sucks durr)
But I got a fancy new condenser mic, so I'm all happy. I didn't read the thread or anything, but do we have music?
Well if we have a sax, I think it's enough for some jazz~ Alright amigo, lemme know when your ready to get started. In the meantime we should definitely have at least the structure, if not most of the composition down within a few weeks. So for right now, there should be a few samples up on page 5, two of which I think we could use. Check out the one's called phantom sample, and ensemble sample 2, and see which ya would rather do. Unless anyone else has a suggestion?
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Well, to be fair, I'm also a sax player, flamezero. So you already had a sax :P.
I just need to, like, not be really ill :V.
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Well, to be fair, I'm also a sax player, flamezero. So you already had a sax :P.
I just need to, like, not be really ill :V.
True, but when I spoke with ya on IRC, ya gave the impression you were busy =p More the merrier though~
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Too busy to run this thing. I can play occasionally.