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Title: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on February 28, 2017, 02:37:25 AM
Greetings, I thought it would be interesting if I made a thread concerning the details about Remilia's maid, Sakuya Izayoi.
I mean, there is so much mystery surrounding her character and I am surprised that only a few people have shared their
thoughts and opinions surrounding her status, development, and placement of a character.

For example, have you ever wondered why Sakuya Izayoi only seems to be concerned about her mistress and her welfare at the mansion and nothing else, even though she is just a sole human?

Of course, the most popular theory is the vampire hunter theory, where Sakuya wanted to hunt down Remilia for the sake of her own species' survival but ends up getting defeated by her. (with Remilia changing her fate and name, of course)

But, what clues are there to make this theory closer into fact? The only 3 pieces of evidence are that:
1. She is the only human in the mansion.
2. She carries silver knives, which are a vampires' weakness
and 3. Her real name isn't "Sakuya Izayoi" but a different name that we don't know of yet. Remilia gave her that name for unknown reasons.

Of course, there are many more mysteries of Sakuya that have yet to be solved. That's why I made this thread, so that people can post interesting facts, links,
clues, etc. that may or may not reveal who Sakuya Izayoi really is, and why she decided to work for Remilia.

I'd like to hear your thoughts!  :)


Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: RoamerB on February 28, 2017, 06:47:09 PM
One thing I'm convinced about Sakuya is that she has no memories of her life before becoming Remilia's maid. If you were working in the mansion before she arrived and tried to ask her what she was before coming there, she'd tell you she doesn't know. Because of her amnesia, she doesn't know what she was called before she started serving her.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on February 28, 2017, 10:18:46 PM
Yeah, amnesia could be possible. I mean, why else would she just have her life being devoted to somebody not of her species?  :V

...But what if she could be a spy of some sort or a long-time temporary servant of Remilia? ((I have a theory that is based off of speculation of this))
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Hello Purvis on March 01, 2017, 12:20:57 AM
Sakuya is actually Meiling.

Think about it.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: MANoBadAssGar Jr. on March 01, 2017, 12:32:17 AM
What about, Sakuya is
Eirin
child?
and doesn't inherit the
immortality
, but gain the mutated power......time stop.......
and the red eyes,
Eirin partner might be moon rabbit
[/s]

sorry if that story had been told, i'm still a rather new kids around here
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Sophilia on March 01, 2017, 01:24:51 AM
I honestly don't know what is up with her.  I've seen lots of theories of her origin, but none of them really strike me as adding up to the Sakuya we know.  There's just some things where you have to throw up your hands and say, "Insufficient data."

The one's I've seen around:

1) Akyuu's theory of a vampire hunter
2) Abandoned little girl with eerie powers, taken in by SDM and raised as a maid
3) Super Secret Lunarian Super Spy
4) Renko, whose power evolved like Mary's did
5) Yet another Diospawn
6) Just a normal maid that got hired at this really weird place, and then magic shenanigans ensued

Of course, in the finest tradition, the right answer is probably "7) Something even ZUN hasn't thought up yet."
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on March 01, 2017, 05:25:34 AM
Alright, here are some strange things that I've noticed about Sakuya ((feel free to add to this list)):

-Her ability is just unique to her, so far
-Her eyes change color from blue to red when she is angry.
-She has a 'rude' sense of humor around other characters sometimes, despite being a human maid.
-She partakes in Impossible Spell Card even though she is rich and doesn't need money to live.
-She shoots magic bullets and fireballs other than knives sometimes (we still don't know how she learnt them in the first place for being primary a melee user)
and last but not least:
-Her real name isn't Sakuya.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Drake on March 01, 2017, 10:33:02 AM
I am surprised that only a few people have shared their
thoughts and opinions surrounding her status, development, and placement of a character.
Sakuya was probably the most discussed character for the first like four years of the Windows era, and even afterwards. People don't talk about her much now because literally every idea that's ever been possible to talk about has likely already been talked about at some point lol. In fact, I would bet that ZUN writing in Akyuu's commentary on the mysteries surrounding Sakuya in her PMiSS article are exactly for the purpose of saying "these explanations are all just theories", especially since they all seem to refer to theories that already existed before PMiSS.

Quote
Remilia gave her that name for unknown reasons.
She wanted to give her a new name and it sounded cool, would be my guess, given Remilia.

-Her ability is just unique to her, so far
-Her eyes change color from blue to red when she is angry.
-She has a 'rude' sense of humor around other characters sometimes, despite being a human maid.
-She partakes in Impossible Spell Card even though she is rich and doesn't need money to live.
-She shoots magic bullets and fireballs other than knives sometimes (we still don't know how she learnt them in the first place for being primary a melee user)
- Most characters have completely unique abilities.
- This was in the fighting games when she used some Spell Cards but otherwise this isn't seen anymore. In EoSD her eyes were red in-game and blue in the endings, and it's likely ZUN just revised her eye color and gave a reasonable-sounding explanation for her eyes during EoSD.
- So does everyone lol
- So does Remilia...
- So do other humans.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: andykhang on March 01, 2017, 11:57:45 AM
Add from the point above:

-And she isn't the only one who have timey-whimey power. Kaguya have that too.
-Above, and I got a mini-theory for why that happen is because of the Doppler effect when she's streching space by widening time.
-Above
-I don't think a maid's salary would be much anyway, and is she even needing money for herself, aside from neccesity?
-Above, and she could does that? In what spell card?
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on March 01, 2017, 07:39:17 PM
Add from the point above:

-And she isn't the only one who have timey-whimey power. Kaguya have that too.
-Above, and I got a mini-theory for why that happen is because of the Doppler effect when she's streching space by widening time.
-Above
-I don't think a maid's salary would be much anyway, and is she even needing money for herself, aside from neccesity?
-Above, and she could does that? In what spell card?

-I meant her abillity to stop time and control space. Not eternity, which is just slowing down time.
-She doesn't accept a salary. According to canon, she isn't being paid to work.
-In EoSD, there are a few spell cards and nonspells in which she doesn't only use knives. For example, Illusion World~ The World has fireballs and knives.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: MANoBadAssGar Jr. on March 01, 2017, 09:22:54 PM
-And she isn't the only one who have timey-whimey power. Kaguya have that too.

-I don't think a maid's salary would be much anyway, and is she even needing money for herself, aside from neccesity?
-wind priest, You're such a dissapointmet to Diospawn...........

-neccesity for her mistress whim you mean?
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on March 01, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
I have a theory relating to Sakuya possibly being in the next Touhou game (Touhou 15.5) it may be a bit too big of a stretch though... (this theory is also very long to explain so I'll summarize it for now, unless if you guys want a full explanation)

Basically, Sakuya may be an old servant of Sumireko or another person from the outside world. She may be two bodies, one girl (similar to Ran) and she may be a target of whoever is causing the incident to happen because of her unique powers or something.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Hello Purvis on March 02, 2017, 01:35:19 AM
She may be two bodies, one girl (similar to Ran)

Lo que tu hablas, Wilis?
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: the old guy on March 02, 2017, 01:36:17 AM
one girl
Can you please not call fully grown women "girls"?
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: andykhang on March 02, 2017, 02:16:38 AM
-I meant her abillity to stop time and control space. Not eternity, which is just slowing down time.


Kaguya could control space too, remember the infinite corridor of her, or how she make the entire area around her house unchanged by history?
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on March 02, 2017, 05:33:00 AM
Can you please not call fully grown women "girls"?

I apologize, from now I'll call her a lady.

Anyway, the theory has to do with Reimu being the first one to question Sakuya's humanity. You know how Reimu/Miko can hear/detect divine spirits, right? Well, I think that Sakuya is actually a spirit possessing a human, similar to Ran. Note that "Sakuya" isn't Sakuya's real name, and AoCF is all about possesion and "humaning away". My theory is a bit of a stretch, but it's just speculation.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on March 02, 2017, 05:34:32 AM
Kaguya could control space too, remember the infinite corridor of her, or how she make the entire area around her house unchanged by history?

Oh right, I forgot. Maybe Sakuya got her powers from Kaguya or one of the Lunarians, after all. It's a possibility.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: PK on March 02, 2017, 10:54:11 AM
Well there's the fact that Eirin was surprised to see Sakuya, although the reason is specifically unknown.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Drake on March 02, 2017, 11:14:39 AM
Except it's known now that it's because Eirin would have recognized the name Sakuya from Konohana-Sakuyahime. It's just more connection to Eirin's identity as Omoikane.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Lt Colonel Summers on March 03, 2017, 07:55:39 AM
Except it's known now that it's because Eirin would have recognized the name Sakuya from Konohana-Sakuyahime. It's just more connection to Eirin's identity as Omoikane.

Wow, nice point there you just said...
Nobody ever thought about making the connection between Sakuya and Konohana-Sakuyahime. Even I didn't until I saw your post...

Though my headcanon has been that Sakuya is a former member of the Kempeitai - Imperial Japan's equivalent of the Gestapo - which has been long investigating and trying to acquire the powers of Gensokyo for Hideki Tojo, similar to the Nazis wanting to acquire supernatural powers for Hitler.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: andykhang on March 03, 2017, 02:03:40 PM
Not really...I kinda know that already. I think this fact is just obscure that many people who know Touhou, but doesn't dive deep into it know.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Drake on March 03, 2017, 02:58:52 PM
Not really...I kinda know that already. I think this fact is just obscure that many people who know Touhou, but doesn't dive deep into it know.
I meant "it is known" in a broad sense that it's the consensus with the fandom that understands the connection, not that it's common knowledge at all.

EDIT: Wait I think you were responding to Summers, not me. Never mind this then.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Spacechurro on March 03, 2017, 06:49:31 PM
This may seem kind of random, but Sakuya could have been outright created by Remilia (Or Remi told Patchy to do it)
-No identity beyond the scarlet mansion
-No name before Remilia
-Young forever
-Time controlling powers(???)

But one problem is why?

There's also this weird theory that has no evidence, but I think is cool, that one that Sakuya is Marisa.

Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: the old guy on March 03, 2017, 09:50:10 PM
I believe in the Lunarian Sakuya theory. I feel that there's plenty of evidence for it in Canon.

Eirin recognizing her in IN, her theme being called "Lunar Dial". I also remember Reimu saying something about her not feeling human, but I don't remember where she said that, It would also explain her coldness towards humans.

Personally I think that she was exiled from the moon at a young age, hence why she doesn't remember her past.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: MANoBadAssGar Jr. on March 03, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
There's also this weird theory that has no evidence, but I think is cool, that one that Sakuya is Marisa.

That person not allright. more so than me
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on March 03, 2017, 11:31:48 PM
There's also this weird theory that has no evidence, but I think is cool, that one that Sakuya is Marisa.

Interesting. That's another one that could be possible, given that Sakuya and Marisa look similar and are based off of Dio Brando and Johnathan Joestar respectively. (from JJBA)
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Sophilia on March 04, 2017, 12:38:39 AM
When it comes to Jojo and Touhou, I can only think that it's Remilia that actually embodies Dio, since she gets all the Dio lines, the "charisma" and its "break", and of course being a Vampire.  The only Dioness that Sakuya has is in her time ability, so if we're going there, Sakuya's just Remi's Stand.

Also Marisa seems a lot more like Joseph to me to be honest...
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Hello Purvis on March 04, 2017, 01:05:13 AM
Yuugi's the Joestar, mangs.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Drake on March 04, 2017, 03:59:45 AM
This may seem kind of random, but Sakuya could have been outright created by Remilia (Or Remi told Patchy to do it)
To mention, "Sakuya is a homunculus" (i.e. artificial human) is one of the minor theories Akyuu mentions as well. Obviously it's still bologna, but yeah.

I believe in the Lunarian Sakuya theory. I feel that there's plenty of evidence for it in Canon.
>Eirin recognizing her in IN
She didn't recognize her, she was "surprised to see her". I just explained why that passage exists a few posts up. It's poorly worded in the profile (should've probably been 咲夜の名前を聞いて大変驚く/"surprised to hear Sakuya's name"), but ZUN has posted before that Bougetsushou holds a hint for this, which is of course where we hear about Konohana-Sakuyahime specifically.

>her theme being called "Lunar Dial"
Luna Dial/月時計 is a reference to a watch that comes from a book by mystery novelist Fujiki Rin. I don't know the specific details but ZUN wrote as such in the omake music comments. Note that basically nothing about her besides this has moon imagery and despite being a big role in Bougetsushou there's nothing that would suggest a connection to her at all.

>I also remember Reimu saying something about her not feeling human
In EoSD Stage 6 she says "So that maid there was really human?" which is a pretty expected response given she could y'know stop time and stuff. In general Sakuya's disposition is not very human-seeming at times because she can act quite cold and callously and makes dark jokes.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Spacechurro on March 04, 2017, 04:47:55 AM
To mention, "Sakuya is a homunculus" (i.e. artificial human) is one of the minor theories Akyuu mentions as well. Obviously it's still bologna, but yeah.

Oh my god...........

Sakuya is Jesus!
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: the old guy on March 04, 2017, 06:16:17 AM
Truth

Fuck. That theories BS then.

I guess the only theory that makes sense now is that she was an Vampire Hunter who was brainwashed into being Reimila's slave. Wow, thats really fucking dark.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Hello Purvis on March 04, 2017, 06:26:38 AM
Why would she have to be brainwashed? Perhaps she didn't find Remilia to be worth killing, and questioned the whole slayer idea? Perhaps she was defeated and Remilia required her service to spare her? Perhaps Sakuya was just some kid from the village that was brave enough to approach SDM back in the pre-spellcard days and got hired?

Like, just because that one theory is busted doesn't mean it can only be a particular other one. Simply put, we don't really know much about what happened.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: the old guy on March 04, 2017, 06:57:37 AM
Why would she have to be brainwashed? Perhaps she didn't find Remilia to be worth killing, and questioned the whole slayer idea?
Why would she NOT kill Remilia? She fucking eats humans!

Perhaps she was defeated and Remilia required her service to spare her?
So instead of brainwashing, she forced her to become her slave on threat of death? How is that much better than brainwashing? Now, i will admit that i jumped to conclusions on the brainwashing idea. But i really can't think of anything much better.

Perhaps Sakuya was just some kid from the village that was brave enough to approach SDM back in the pre-spellcard days and got hired?
So far this is the only theory i actually like, instead of Remilia being a fucked up slaver, Sakuya was an fucked up creepy little kid who doesn't mind killing humans to feed some annoying rich kid. That wouldn't surprise me, considering its Gensokyo.

Although, Meiling and Sakuya being the same person in a Tyler Duren kind of situation does have some merit, now that i think about it. Has anyone ever seen them in the same room?
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Hello Purvis on March 04, 2017, 07:23:04 AM
Why would she NOT kill Remilia? She fucking eats humans!

Who says Sakuya valued life like that? I mean, pro-death penalty people exist.

So instead of brainwashing, she forced her to become her slave on threat of death? How is that much better than brainwashing? Now, i will admit that i jumped to conclusions on the brainwashing idea. But i really can't think of anything much better.

Have you never heard of a debt of honor?

You're just kind of reacting without considering, from what I'm gathering here. Take a breath, mull over possibilities. There's quite a few once you unshackle yourself from presumptions outside of what we know for a fact; which is very little indeed.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Lt Streko on March 07, 2017, 06:49:50 PM
I'm a personal believer in the whole vampire hunter theory, but a slight deviation from what most people believe. What if Sakuya herself wasn't a vampire hunter, but her parents were. When they tried to fight Remilia they were killed, (Or maybe Remilia hunted and killed them.) Sakuya, being a young child (or perhaps even a baby) Remilia took an interest in her and decided in an ironic twist of fate to bring her in and have her work as her personal maid. This would explain why Sakuya doesn't remember her life before the Scarlet Devil mansion, and why Remilia decided to ultimately name her Sakuya.

I do like the idea of Sakuya originally coming from the moon, but I feel that theory has a good amount of evidence against it. Though it would be pretty neat if it were true.

Or maybe Sakuya is working under Remilia so Remi can change her fate so no one finds out she's using pads.
*Knifed* Old joke is old
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Drake on March 07, 2017, 10:37:25 PM
One big problem I have with people exploring the idea of Sakuya being a vampire hunter, or similar theories, is that very few people actually give any reasons as to why Sakuya would feel so connected to Remilia at all. She goes to kill Remilia, fails and she spares her to instead have Sakuya serve her? What, is she supposed to be stupid? The whole killing her parents thing above also suffers from similar problems. You'd think that even if young, Sakuya would just loathe Remilia. Such a thing makes little sense. Even molding her from infancy, concealing that truth goes beyond just mean-spirited, it's truly pretty terrible.

I guess my point is that these theories tend to start from a point of extreme antagonism and then result in an extremely bonded relationship for literally no reason besides maybe handwaving "manipulation of fate lol". They should be convincing that Sakuya would actually want to spend her life serving Remilia, and also probably Remilia respecting Sakuya at least on some level.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: MANoBadAssGar Jr. on March 07, 2017, 11:46:43 PM
I as a man, stand firm to my believe belief, Sakuya is Eirin child
Did you see Sakuya braid? that means she's generation 2
Did you see Eirin braid? that means shes generation 1
Length of the braid indicates age, that means, Sakuya are not fully human
That tells you

And Orin is Meiling older sister
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Jeremie on March 08, 2017, 01:13:34 AM
I'm pretty sure we'll always end with speculations in term of Sakuya's case. The mystery behind her feels like it's part of the character's identity. I wasn't aware of Akyuu's speculation that she could be a homunculus but I sort of like the idea as it could be related to Remilia and Patchouli who knew each other before. There's various reasons why Sakuya could be created and if that happened to be the case, I can't help but imagine it would be something silly or mundane.

Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: dark36 on March 08, 2017, 02:27:01 AM
i personally belive in the serial killer theory, just because to the names of some of her spellcards and that the first explanation to come to her mind about the increase of ghost in her conversation with Eiki was mass murder.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: MANoBadAssGar Jr. on March 08, 2017, 04:27:51 AM
The mystery behind her feels like it's part of the character
That. No need to destroy it, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: aListers on March 08, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
While I personally still believe the lunarian theory, I think if Sakuya was was a vampire hunter then Remilia would've gained her respect rather than any brainwshing or regrets. It seems to be a big part of their relationship that Sakuya has a huge amount of respect for Remilia - to the point that she doesn't even accept pay. Her loyalty clearly comes from respect rather than any deal or manipulation. It's clear that Sakuya serves Remilia because she wants to.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Lt Streko on March 08, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
One big problem I have with people exploring the idea of Sakuya being a vampire hunter, or similar theories, is that very few people actually give any reasons as to why Sakuya would feel so connected to Remilia at all. She goes to kill Remilia, fails and she spares her to instead have Sakuya serve her? What, is she supposed to be stupid? The whole killing her parents thing above also suffers from similar problems. You'd think that even if young, Sakuya would just loathe Remilia. Such a thing makes little sense. Even molding her from infancy, concealing that truth goes beyond just mean-spirited, it's truly pretty terrible.

This is a very fair point, however, I had imagined Sakuya's parents as less respectable, potentially horrible people that were killing what they perceived as 'monsters' indiscriminately. Or they could have just been awful parents who constantly neglected or maybe abused Sakuya. When Remilia killed her parents, she felt pity for this child who was then left all alone, so she took her in. In a sense, Remilia saved Sakuya from her parents.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Drake on March 09, 2017, 01:41:01 AM
That is what I assumed your intention was (potential abuse, forcing her into their lifestyle, etc). I wasn't trying to say that your specific idea was bad, especially since you had barely described it, but that it evokes the same theme I have a problem with where it starts with antagonism and ambiguously turns into reverence for (potentially) no good reason. It's something you see in a lot of Sakuya origin stories.

That being said, even that idea still needs some fleshing out to succeed. Thank you miss vampire for getting rid of my horrible parents, and then she raises her, I guess? That's probably more along the lines of what I'd go for in such a plot, but it still feels fairly shallow.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: The_Nuclear_Raven on March 14, 2017, 03:31:51 PM
Sakuya is a cool maid. You know, throwing knives and stopping time. I have a theory, she is originally a child that is lost near the Scarlet Devil Mansion. Maybe, Remilia Scarlet took her in and put her as a maid.

But that is just my theory, she is a cool and nice maid


Bear with me, I'm new here.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Rin Satsuki on March 16, 2017, 12:03:36 AM
The vampire hunter theory always sticks in my head. Add here Castlevania reference.
Sakuya Belmont *Shot*

I highly doubt that Sakuya, or whichever was her name before, decided to work for Remilia at will... unless there's an outside factor that any of us know.
I love this maid. So mysterious~.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Eiki Shiki on March 22, 2017, 10:21:23 PM
About the SDM and the Vampire Hunter theory i do think sometimes it works this way:

During Medieval Age/Renaissance Age Europe:
> Vampires are being hunted in all Europe.
> "Sakuya's" parents (and clan) fought Remilia and Flandre's parents, believing they could attain at least mutual destruction.
> Due inespecific circunstances, some vampire hunters are born with special abilities/strange powers: the girl that will be known one day as "Sakuya" is one of them.
> "Sakuya's" parents/clan failed and got destroyed as result. Only one of the "Scarlet family" got killed. The children were unharmed. One got severely injured, but it is still alive.
> Without parents and clan, the girl, still at young age and without proper training, put her life at stake and tried to take revenge. And lost. The surviving Scarlet lord/lady took interest in the girl due her rare power, rare even among vampires and offered a chance to finally kill him/her, since he/she at the verge of death (harm caused at the battle against the vampire hunters) - the mercy stroke. The offer came with conditions: she would take care of the two girls and prevent them from going berserk (since this could endanger her lives). Without parents and resources and purpose, this was a nice offer.
> Sakuya's name and memories:
----- It could be easier for her to live without past memories. A geas was used.
----- Even if she doesn't remember, the "Izayoi" of her name is related to the night she appeared and fought the remaining lord/lady of the castle: the sixteenth night after the battle.
> Before finally dying, the old lord/lady told about an acquainted scholar that was researching about "a land in the east where a multitude of creatures, men and monsters live": that could ensure a "healthy life" for their vampire children.

Going east:

> While searching for the scholar, a.k.a Patchouli Knowledge, to feed the girls, Sakuya had to commit crimes, so they couldn't stay for much time in the same place (maybe Remilia has the power to move the castle, as its owner. Something like Arcueid and her Marble Phantasm Brunestud Castle).
> The scholar is found.
> With the scholar's help Flandre is sealed within the castle: her powers are dangerous. And they do not a little girl whining and destroying everything. Since she's inside a sealed place, she's transported with the castle from place to place.
> Patchouli discovers that they must travel the sea and search for an island. Meiling is found in a little village in what we know as China. Thanks to her origin, she's a victim of their neighbors. With one more person living inside the castle (Patchouli), "Sakuya" needs help. The girl, about the same age as Sakuya starts travelling with them as the gatekeeper.
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: erired1110 on April 03, 2017, 03:26:33 AM
Also, Sakuya has similar braids to Sagume. Coincidence? I think not!
Title: Re: Any Sakuya Izayoi thoughts, theories, etc.?
Post by: Hello Purvis on April 03, 2017, 09:23:14 AM
Also to Meiling and Marisa.

This hole goes deep.