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Title: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 09, 2015, 11:02:13 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/eFaP2iB.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/jRfsEv9.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Nu3sxy5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PmjAc6y.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/0NnoFGq.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an iOS/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because most things can be obtained/beaten without spending money and some amount of patience and skill.)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to even lowlier dragons to smokin' hot monstergirls like Echidna, Siren, Alraune, Archangel, and Lilith(above).  They all mostly have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

Real talk though, the real reason to get into this game is because everyone else here is playing it and has been playing non-stop for the past 2 years :V , and probably won't stop for a long time thanks to the constant updates to the game and its mechanics, balance changes that never directly nerf anything and are mostly focused on increasing the viability of older monsters, and of course the endless addition of new monsters and collabs that are dished out on a regular basis.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here:

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a god).  Great starters include any of the Chinese gods, Ares, Bastet, Isis, Verdandi, Lu Bu, Bastet, Odin, Kali, Shiva, Bastet, Sonia, and many others.  Feel free to ask!

If you need more help or just want to discuss the game, we also have a P&D channel on the MotK IRC network in here. Just type your name and go.
For those using IRC clients other than webchat, the channel is #puzzleandlibrarians on irc.ppirc.net.


List of friends + Main Leaders:
Edible: 328,945,274 (Ronia*, Bastet*)
hyorinryu: 357.646.299 (Sakuya*, Perseus*)
Suikama: 348.941.282 (Isis*, Ra D*)
triangles: 322.456.235 (LMeta*, Santa Sakuya)
Chaore: 344,844,286 (Verdandi, Shiva*)
Yukarin: 394.177.213 (Awoken Haku*, LKali*)
Jq1790: 396,049,294 (Athena, Awoken Karin*)
Pesco: 328 276 294 (Rodin, Ronia)
Dibble: 314,673,283 (Isis, GOdin)
Matsuri: 358,689,277 (Awoken Sakuya*, Awoken Tsukuyomi*)
Fast Fanatic: 359,184,275 (TAMADRAPurin*, Sakuya*)
Sacchi Hikaru: 385,394,297 (Horus*, Vishnu)
rdj: 338,277,280 (AA Lucifer*, Awoken Minerva*)
Chirei: 326,404,383 (Leilan*, Alraune*)
commandercool: 312,728,337 (Gabriel*, Awoken Ra*)
Aoshi: 398,822,333 (LMeta*, I&I)
Conqueror: 331,616,320 (DQXQ, I&I)
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268 (Athena, LMeta*)
Dorakyura: 347,957,300 (Nephthys*)
Bio: 336,681,244 (Sakuya, Athena)
En: 351,629,319 (Lu Bu, Haku)
moekou: 329,066,242 (Osiris*, Pandora)
Espadas: 301,335,377 (Ronia, B/G Karin)
Calamity: 331,737,355 (Ronia, Awoken Shiva)
Mea: 380,147,382 (Sakuya, chibi Rose)
aUsernameIsFineToo: 347,966,337 (Bastet, Rozuel)
Ruka: 368,034,352 (Sasuke, I&I Healer)

(Asterisk next to leaders means "hypermax" - +297, max skill. Glowing leaders have all five latent awakening slots full.)

Topic Archive
Thread I (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Thread II (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Thread III (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
Thread IV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15728.0.html)
Thread V (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16090.0.html)
Thread VI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16209.0.html)
Thread VII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16326.0.html)
Thread VIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16604.0.html)
Thread IX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16767.0.html)
Thread X (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17002.0.html)
Thread XI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17175.0.html)
Thread XII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17337.0.html)
Thread XIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17483.0.html)
Thread XIV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17582.0.html)
Thread XV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17678.0.html)
Thread XVI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17748.0.html)
Thread XVII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17904.0.html)
Thread XVIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=18079.0)
Thread XIX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18188.0.html)
Thread XX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18335.0.html)
Thread XXI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18505.0.html)
Thread XXII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18624.0.html)
Thread XXIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18773.0.html)
Thread XXIV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18888.0.html)
Thread XXV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18990.0.html)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 11:30:46 AM
Is anyone else finding that they just can't enter the ranking dungeon? I'm getting an error. It is open now, right? Unless this is the one time ever that PAD is using local time instead of PST.

I know there's a penalty for just Ra nuking the predra floor, but I was planning on just doing it anyway. Is that a bad idea? Is the penalty so huge that my score will be irredeemable if I do it or something?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 09, 2015, 11:38:09 AM
Is anyone else finding that they just can't enter the ranking dungeon? I'm getting an error. It is open now, right? Unless this is the one time ever that PAD is using local time instead of PST.

I know there's a penalty for just Ra nuking the predra floor, but I was planning on just doing it anyway. Is that a bad idea? Is the penalty so huge that my score will be irredeemable if I do it or something?

Source here. (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/1181032161925374/?type=3)

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Please note that we have temporarily removed the Ranking Dungeon feature, and we will be sure to update everyone on its new availability.

We will continue to look into the details from this incident and will provide further information regarding compensation once everything is resolved. Thank you for your patience, and we again apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
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I believe nuking a floor also results in -5000 points for every floor you did this to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 09, 2015, 11:55:53 AM
Here are my findings for the MP Dragon Guerilla:

99 Stam - 5 floors.

Floors 3 and 5 will have a guaranteed Latent (stats or resist)
Floors 2 and 4 will consist of 2 Predra Babies and 1 of a colored Predra
Floor 1 will always have 3 Predra Babies

On average, expect to get 2 predra babies and 1 colored predra, but you will more often than not get 2 colored predra.

50 Stam - 4 floors.

Floor 4 will have a guaranteed Latent (stats or resist)
Floors 1 and 3 will always have 3 Predra Babies.
Floor 2 will have 2 Predra Babies and 1 colored Predra.

On average, expect to get 2 predra babies and 1 colored predra, but you will probably get 3 predra babies.

If you have 4 Awoken Ras, 3 of them having 3 skill delay resists, pairing up with a 5th Awoken Ra friend will let you button press the entire 99 Stam (Legend) thing in 34 seconds.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 09, 2015, 12:57:50 PM
Okay, those do sound rather appealing, especially if resist latents are in there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 09, 2015, 01:07:16 PM
Okay, those do sound rather appealing, especially if resist latents are in there.

Yep, they can drop. I've had a fairly even split of all the different latents based on my sample size of about 20 or so runs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 09, 2015, 01:32:07 PM
Beats spending 20k or running fucking 5x4 kaguya any day :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Yep, they can drop. I've had a fairly even split of all the different latents based on my sample size of about 20 or so runs.

What's the drop rate? Is it actually 100%?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 09, 2015, 01:35:10 PM
What's the drop rate? Is it actually 100%?

yes. it's TAMADRA Retreat basically.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 01:44:52 PM
Oof. Well, fuck me for farming them them the old way, but I feel especially bad for anybody who paid MP for them.

I mean, if you have a setup that wants 25 of exactly the same thing maybe it makes sense to try other options, but for a setup like mine (one of each resist, and stat boosts for everything else boosting their highest weighted stat) then this seems way better.

This way I can work on several teams at once, at least until a certain cutoff point where I start to get too many duplicates. Although there's a chance of accidentally getting autoheal latents here that are basically just a waste of stamina, and a chance that I'll keep them all hoping they get buffed which will tank my box space as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
Ha ha oh shit I guess I hadn't really taken a look at the Christmas healer girls' art except Siren before now. They're all megadorable... Except for Lilith, who is not up to the standards of the others.

Also HOW IS THAT MENACING? They missed a prime opportunity to give them a new, functionally identical skill themed after cuteness with a skillup that only exists in the Christmas dungeon. :v

I wasn't going to do any Christmas pulls, but I might consider it now (especially pending what else is in there) because now I'm realizing that a white delay with a row could be really badass. You know, because I have such a good track record fishing for specific event silvers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 09, 2015, 02:01:22 PM
Speaking of kaguya
(http://i.imgur.com/8R06lo8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pf1OPxe.jpg)

Don't ask me how I did that. I had like 140 HP for half the dungeon, and my final combo on kaguya was 100x.

I didn't even use tsukuyomi there, I had to use that active to OHKO Amaterasu rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 09, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
Ha ha oh shit I guess I hadn't really taken a look at the Christmas healer girls' art except Siren before now. They're all megadorable... Except for Lilith, who is not up to the standards of the others.

I guess you could say Lilith isn't ass awesome as the others



don't hurt me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 09, 2015, 03:12:15 PM
ctrl+f ranking dungeon ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 03:17:15 PM
I guess you could say Lilith isn't ass awesome as the others



don't hurt me

She may not be as cute as the others, butt I suppose her art has some merit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2015, 03:22:59 PM
Lmao buyable dkali

P A Y 2 W I N B O Y S
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on December 09, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Ooh, Santa Kirin ult. All is right with the world.

Lmao buyable dkali

P A Y 2 W I N B O Y S

Figured it was a given. She's main red though. I imagine that'd be a bit of a turn off.

On a side note, I'd watch Everyday Christmas with Monster Musume.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 03:31:05 PM
What the fuck Christmas Paulina? Are there going to be versions of those for all of the grimoires? Her colors are scrambled so I wouldn't know what to expect of the others, but an Armadel like that would be a goddamn nightmare on a Verdandi team, even if she ended up being G/U or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 03:37:12 PM
On a side note, I'd watch Everyday Christmas with Monster Musume.

Ooh, PAD anime from the people who made Monster Musume plz.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 09, 2015, 03:42:04 PM
Ooh, Santa Kirin ult. All is right with the world.

Figured it was a given. She's main red though. I imagine that'd be a bit of a turn off.


Not when you run ASaku, hahaha

... But I don't have the MP for that.

May make some hasty selling....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2015, 04:04:49 PM
What the fuck Christmas Paulina? Are there going to be versions of those for all of the grimoires? Her colors are scrambled so I wouldn't know what to expect of the others, but an Armadel like that would be a goddamn nightmare on a Verdandi team, even if she ended up being G/U or something.
She's Water/Fire so she's for BeachUrd and Best Girl

lol once again I want the 4 stars over everything else

Paulina and Siren come to meeeeee
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 09, 2015, 04:43:25 PM
We have two holiday chinagirls now(the fact that they're both Christmas I find less significant). I wonder who I'd have to bribe for B/G bikiniKarin, G/D HalloweenMei, and R/G ChristmasLei...?  Figured those spots would fit them best and since Haku is her nonTwinlit colors. went with that theme for the others.

Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on December 09, 2015, 05:30:11 PM
Finally got Rozuel to level 99!

I'd like to make a request to be added to the list of players here:

ID is 347,966,337
Main leaders are Bastet and Rozuel.


Thanks~
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 09, 2015, 05:32:30 PM
I wonder who I'd have to bribe for B/G bikiniKarin, G/D HalloweenMei, and R/G ChristmasLei...?

I'm seriously considering Voodoo to get GH to put out a friggin D/R Attacker with TPA in NA.....  :fail:

Over 2500 cards..... ONE monster that fit the bill. And it just HAD to be in the MH4 Collab.....  :X
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 09, 2015, 05:36:06 PM
(http://imgur.com/tt7lweV.jpg)

There, max skilled, max Awoken, max level...

Holy shit though his stats are pretty swole. It's not like Cloud who multiplies HP but has garbage HP himself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 09, 2015, 06:40:25 PM
I'm seriously considering Voodoo to get GH to put out a friggin D/R Attacker with TPA in NA.....  :fail:

Over 2500 cards..... ONE monster that fit the bill. And it just HAD to be in the MH4 Collab.....  :X

You know what? I'm a fool, the real solution is way simpler and better than i thought..... GIVE DKALI ATTACKER TRIPLE-TYPE. Full stop.

She would be almost perfect....  :smokedcheese:  (100% perfect would be if she also swapped out a finger for a second TPA  :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 06:43:54 PM
Black Kali doesn't need buffs. Don't get greedy. :v

Edit: If you, like me, have been periodically refreshing your game and saving stamina looking for the ranking dungeon, apparently it's been postponed until further notice. Good to know.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Pesco on December 09, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
I bought tama village and coulda gotten 4 runs off of it but maintenance ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 09, 2015, 09:00:42 PM
Black Kali doesn't need buffs. Don't get greedy. :v

I can't be greedy since i DON'T HAVE a DKali yet  :V
It's the principle, the knowledge that there is at least one available card to fulfill that spot.... and the despair at the thought that i also haven't got Satsuki yet  :derp:

I bought tama village and coulda gotten 4 runs off of it but maintenance ;_;

You have my admiration, i would have been "slightly" mad at that.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 09, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
Hey skmr/ccool could you guys put up andromeda/gabe respectively? Trying some silly things.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2015, 11:05:58 PM
Hey skmr/ccool could you guys put up andromeda/gabe respectively? Trying some silly things.
k 1 blu bae coming right up
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 09, 2015, 11:12:34 PM
I PUT UP THE BEST BLUE LEAD TBH

YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2015, 11:13:15 PM
Hey skmr/ccool could you guys put up andromeda/gabe respectively? Trying some silly things.

Okay he's up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 09, 2015, 11:37:33 PM
Hey skmr/ccool could you guys put up andromeda/gabe respectively? Trying some silly things.

If you want I could put up ALakshmi as well.

If you're trying some silly things and all, might as well :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 10, 2015, 12:20:07 AM
Andro up here as well  ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2015, 12:30:16 AM
GO TEAM MOTK (+1 random)

(http://i.imgur.com/USS1qmZ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/3YDrXkM.png)

Took four attempts. Easily one of the hardest challenge modes to date.

EDIT: I just realized Nut needs five or more combos to proc, and I went in with five MOTK members.

Half-Life 5 confirmed
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2015, 12:35:02 AM
Ilsix challenge mode tho
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 10, 2015, 12:47:50 AM
GO TEAM MOTK (+1 random)

Now do it again and replace the random with my ALakshmi. I'm sure she'll be useful for something.

she's max skilled alright
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2015, 01:23:46 AM
Now do it again and replace the random with my ALakshmi. I'm sure she'll be useful for something.

she's max skilled alright

The random was another I&I. I don't think it's possible to beat it with this setup unless I use two, so...

EDIT: Upon further inspection, I think you actually deleted me a long time ago, so I don't have you on my list. I guess I'm just too scrub after all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 10, 2015, 01:59:04 AM
I'm 100% sure I favorited everyone from MotK, if I deleted you, that's because I (somehow) didn't realize you were you :V

I've sent you a friend request all the same though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2015, 02:05:28 AM
I'm 100% sure I favorited everyone from MotK, if I deleted you, that's because I (somehow) didn't realize you were you :V

I've sent you a friend request all the same though.

This was way back when I was like Rank 60, and I probably didn't have anyone that was compatiable with Horus, so that was that.

Also unfortunately that last slot I opened was because someone needed Nut friends, so I can't accept the request at the moment. I don't think I run anything you could use still.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 10, 2015, 02:13:21 AM
Rank 60

/me sees that you're now over rank 500 and he's still in the low-mid 200s.

...My how time flies. Especially considering how I seem to have started playing about 20 days before you or something :V

I should really get around to grinding coin dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 10, 2015, 02:31:49 AM
I posted my ID in the previous thread. Here it is again in case anyone wants it:

368,034,352

Usual leads are Sasuke and I&I Healer.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2015, 02:40:01 AM
/me sees that you're now over rank 500 and he's still in the low-mid 200s.

...My how time flies. Especially considering how I seem to have started playing about 20 days before you or something :V

I should really get around to grinding coin dungeons.

Rank is but an arbitrary number that masks the true skill of that player.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 10, 2015, 02:51:07 AM
Boy I sure hope there are some 100s that are actually better than me then, I'm still a scrub that can only clear stuff because Vishnu is stronk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 10, 2015, 03:31:33 AM
Rank is but an arbitrary number that masks the true skill of that player.

nah rank just determines how much value a stone gives you on stam refresh  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 10, 2015, 04:53:45 AM
[23:48:44] <Edible> pad is over
[23:48:49] <trance|work> PAD IS KILL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 10, 2015, 04:56:47 AM
New set is 'fine we'll give you fucks what you want'

the blue one is possibly a stupid good statstick, dark oe one is pretty busted looking since she got good awakenings, green one looks mediocre

damage control probably super imminent still
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2015, 05:27:03 AM
ALL ABOARD THE POWER CREEP EXPRESS

CHOO CHOO MOTHER FUCKERS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 10, 2015, 06:13:26 AM
yeah I really don't know anymore.

i think they're running out of ideas mechanics-wise
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 10, 2015, 06:23:47 AM
I mean
They can't really introduce a new Awoken skill without it being absurd overpowered, while it would be super uncommon and only work with a specific team of only 5 mons

this would appeal to superwhales

they already have monsters that let you spam even more active skills

What else are they supposed to do? Add an active skill that deals more damage as the -enemy's- HP decreases, like Pok?mon's Brine?

I, uh, ran out of Clouds to farm Creek of Neleus, so I tried using Aoshi's Minerva (http://imgur.com/CL58Iau)

This was far more stressful than I thought it would be
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 10, 2015, 06:56:39 AM

What else are they supposed to do? Add an active skill that deals more damage as the -enemy's- HP decreases, like Pok?mon's Brine?

Well they already releasing Machine Hera which has some new awakenings.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 10, 2015, 09:38:09 AM
I think this comment in the PDX page says it best:

"ok who has been giving out hash to the developer ?
I don't know what kind of weed the developer down at gungtroll is smoking but I want some."

And i totally dig Eschamali's art.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 10, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
I mean
They can't really introduce a new Awoken skill without it being absurd overpowered, while it would be super uncommon and only work with a specific team of only 5 mons

this would appeal to superwhales

they already have monsters that let you spam even more active skills

What else are they supposed to do? Add an active skill that deals more damage as the -enemy's- HP decreases, like Pok?mon's Brine?

There's a TON of reasonable, untapped design space in the leader skill department. And I think the popularity of Norns has proven that peole do care about leader skills that aren't "x17 attack lol".

I'm surprised we haven't seen a leader skill yet that auto-creates orbs every turn. Like " x3 attack for green, and converts the orbs in the bottom corners to green at the start of your turn". Or maybe "x3 attack for red and creates a heart orb and a red orb at random whenever you use a skill" or permutations of that.

As for actives, I can't see as many options there (I already kind of think Haste was crossing the line) but I'm sure plenty exist. Maybe "Take another turn after this one" on a massive timer as a more expensive, more powerful version of Delay. Or, as sketchy as this might be, some kind of new "excess orbs" mechanic where you can orbchange away any orbs that you have too many of. Like "Changes excess red, green, and blue orbbs to hearts" would randomly orbchange orbs until you only have three of each of those colors left. Or even a mechanic that lets you pick what you orbchange, and/or to what. It would halt the momentum of the game a bit, but I wonder what the lowest cooldown they could get away with making "Change the orb of your choice to the color of your choice" at is?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 10, 2015, 03:40:23 PM
On Actives:  Temporary versions of popular leader skills like Resolve, Regen, and Combo Dmg Boost would allow more variety of leaders.  This is basically what they did with Raphael.

Putting damage boosts in the Awakenings has already let tank leaders start to make a comeback
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on December 10, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
Swapping the ATK and HP (or RCV?) stats of the party for 3 turns or so might also be interesting. Might make for some interesting Tank->Glass Cannon mid-battle conversions.
Or maybe new full board awakenings. Would require a team with a lot of board changers and hasters.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 10, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
> Three new godfest exclusives, because we obviously didn't already have enough of them.

> 5 green rows, even though quad row hasn't been a thing for very long.

> 5 TPAs, when we still only have one card with quad TPA.

> seven fucking orb enhancement awakenings

Right, this is why I lost so much interest in this game, the powercreep has reached overdrive speed and it's not stopping anytime soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 10, 2015, 04:13:22 PM
Oh lovely, the blue one is arbitrarily rarer again. At least it's dragging the black one down with it.

I'm getting real tired of the "match five orbs including one enhanced orb" mechanic. Admittedly I've never played a team optimized around it, but I haven't found that it gives terribly enjoyable gameplay. It's starting to feel lazy by this point. Maybe there's a ton of nuance to it that I'm overlooking, but even if that's the case I'd rather see it used sparingly.

As for power creep, that went out the window for me with Ra Dragon. Anything's fair game at this point. While that bothers tremendously on a design level it has yet to hurt my enjoyment of the game in a practical way (aside from losing all of my Awoken Ra friends, but I'm getting used to that since I play blue). We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on December 10, 2015, 04:23:39 PM
> Three new godfest exclusives, because we obviously didn't already have enough of them.

> 5 green rows, even though quad row hasn't been a thing for very long.

> 5 TPAs, when we still only have one card with quad TPA.

> seven fucking orb enhancement awakenings

Right, this is why I lost so much interest in this game, the powercreep has reached overdrive speed and it's not stopping anytime soon.

I don't think it's as overpowered as it appears. Yeah, they give a lot of offensive awakenings, but that's all they have. 5 green rows, might seem really good at first, but then you realize she brings no skill boosts to get your actives to make the rows, no time extends to fix those hard boards, and no skill bind resist. All of those things, will need to be made up elsewhere. Also, unlike prongs, it doesn't matter which card brings the rows in a team as long as they're already there. Right now, I can bring in Artemis and Micheal, who might have only 3 rows, but they also bring in skill boosts, skill bind resists, and auto-heals that will help the team just as much if not more than the 2 other rows brought by Austrailis.

The Pentapronger is bit harder to defend, but hey. Even hypermaxed, her small attack makes it so that she only hits a little harder than Vishnu, and without eggs Vishnu will hit harder than her. Of course, she has stats in other areas backing herself up, but Vishnu and Orochi have more variety in their awakenings, with the skill boosts and the skill binds.

As for the last one. We've had 5-orb enhance 4*s on our collab eggs for a while. I don't think a 6* godfest exclusive having two more orb enhance awakenings will break anything. These guys are definitely pushing it, but I think PADs been through worse. II think Godfest exclusives should push things a little though. Makes them more interesting. I don't think these guys have anything on the MP dragons anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on December 10, 2015, 04:33:07 PM
What with the art for these new exclusives and the art for for machina marionette series, looks like the Kali artist is getting more spotlight. Anyone know who the artist is? Any names floating around?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2015, 04:49:48 PM
What with the art for these new exclusives and the art for for machina marionette series, looks like the Kali artist is getting more spotlight. Anyone know who the artist is? Any names floating around?

Kazama Raita

Right, this is why I lost so much interest in this game, the powercreep has reached overdrive speed and it's not stopping anytime soon.

It's irrelevant if you play the game like me and ignore the OP shit/find ways to balance it out. Suddenly the game feels like a game again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 10, 2015, 05:02:26 PM
Oh lovely, the blue one is arbitrarily rarer again. At least it's dragging the black one down with it.

You fiend! Leave black alone!

Those awakening are quite ridiculous but i'm not in a place to evaluate if they will bring Juggler-level changes to the game...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2015, 05:09:25 PM
okay yeah tbf none of these cards are actually that good. they just look silly because they're breaking the conventions on power awakenings but they totally lack in utility awakenings and it's not like having even more power helps that much in this meta (fucking sopdet)

at least the dark one has a SBR though which probably makes her them most useful? she also probably has a good spot on yomidra while the others are still looking for a better leader


The real tragedy is there is STILL NO 10x DESCENDS AND RKALI IS NOT BUYABLE ITS RONIA LMAO WHO THE FUCK WANTS RONIA FOR 300K MP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 10, 2015, 05:30:14 PM
Regarding the lack of utility awakenings on the new GFEs, just keep in mind that some teams end up with too many of them because monsters with two skillboosts or even two lock resists are relatively common now, especially among awoken gods. My Kalloween team, for example, has 11 skillboosts but the longest cooldown on any of my skills is 7. So obviously you don't want too many members of your team to be lacking utility awakenings, but I think a lot of teams could carry one Australias by virtue of the other members being so stacked with utility.

And, as with additional skillboosts becoming redundant once all of your skills are up on turn one, there's a certain point where adding more rows probably doesn't matter that much. Row teams can one-shot stuff. That's been true since I started playing. Stacking more rows does have utility in that it might let you save some actives or run with a lower multiplier, but as far as I'm concerned there's a point past which adding more rows isn't helping THAT much.

And of course both of those points mainly apply to Austrailis, apparently widely regarded as the weakest one anyway, but I imagine they do apply to the others to at least some degree. I'm not defending these as great designs, but I'm not too worried right now. Maybe I'll take that back later.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Yukarin on December 10, 2015, 08:07:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DMEAdqy.jpg)

oh yeah this has been finished for a long while now and i don't see GOLD on her name so can someone please get me that gold name
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
speaking of gold names *coughcoughcough*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 10, 2015, 10:02:27 PM
I'm kind of excited for the ranking dungeon later, but I don't know what to expect. Has anybody from JP got any advice?

I'm planning to use Ra, but he doesn't seem that well-suited for it. Seems like an optimal team would be something like Bastet that can nuke everything without havibg to tank its combo count to hit all colors. But hopefully I can still do okay. Combos and speed are not really my forte, but I like to believe I'm not awful at them. MaybeI'll find out I am, we'll see.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 01:28:09 AM
From what I've seen it's always RaDra on top of the charts lol

aRa should probably be not too far behind, just you have to spend time using actives to burst

although with RaDra you basically just run the dungeon over and over until you get lucky enough to clear every floor instantly
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 11, 2015, 01:42:41 AM
Dear lord that is stupid.  Welp, still a free stone and (something else depending on ranking) so I guess it's ok.

"Don't have this one specific whalemon?  haha you lose."
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 01:44:33 AM
well that's just to hit the top 10, like the literal 10 best people in the region

to hit top 10% for max rewards you could probably get away with any good combo leader but regardless it would still take a lot of tries to get a lucky run
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 01:49:11 AM
aRa should probably be not too far behind, just you have to spend time using actives to burst

Keep in mind that Awoken Ra builds have waaaaaay fewer time extends. And yeah, time spent to use actives, but I'm not trying to cut it fine enough that I expect that to matter.

Dear lord that is stupid.  Welp, still a free stone and (something else depending on ranking) so I guess it's ok.

"Don't have this one specific whalemon?  haha you lose."

Unfortunately that's kind of inevitable. I don't know how else they would do it. Give everyone the same prebuilt team I guess, but then skyfalls and board layout still make it fairly luck-based. As far as I can tell PAD is just a game where getting competitive doesn't make that much sense. Maybe prebuilt teams would still be better. I don't know. Wouldn't want to upset the whales by creating a situation where they might not be better than everyone else though, so might as well just let them win (that's mean and unfair, sorry whales).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 01:51:38 AM
having time extends isn't necessarily that good for ranking though, since you are very heavily scored on clear time, so optimally you'll want to combo as fast as possible and not make use of all your time extends


also yeah prebuilt would be better because no matter what rng will be a factor so prebuilt at least makes the playing field level
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 01:53:25 AM
Oh really? The way I read the scoring it seemed like losing a few seconds to pump up your combo count was the better option. Fair enough.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 01:59:45 AM
Like your burst damage gives you score in the thousands, combo in the tens of thousands, and time approaches a hundred thousand

You just gotta go fast


Actually aRa has an advantage in blind resist and nuke for floor 2
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 02:17:45 AM
Highest score out of four runs was 97,104 (20.2%). That was by far my best run, but all of my previous runs I either fucked up or something weird happened. Yeah, that blind resist is great. With Sun Quan I've got 60% resistance, which is very handy. If time is that much of a factor then this run was probably pretty flawed because I had a two massive skyfalls. I'll probably try again at some point, but for now I'm reasonably happy with that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 11, 2015, 02:43:20 AM
Status as of 37 minutes in:

(http://i.imgur.com/taRMPk3.png)

This is with all my runs horribly fucking up at wave 6 of all things, expect huge fluctuations by tomorrow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 02:46:56 AM
So far it looks like Ilm is actually the best leader for this

Still a super whale team though cause the subs are all rodins and aLeilans
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 02:52:37 AM
So does poison actually let you get past floor two without a penalty? What triggers the penalty? Is it just skipping a floor without attacking?

That that I plan on slotting poison into my team, but I'm curious.

Edit: Just watched my roommate and my neighbor both get absolutely and repeatedly destroyed by floor two. Huh. (One was using Awoken Shiva, the other was using Urd.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 02:54:03 AM
Yes poison is fine, only nukes + orb refresh triggers


First try
97k
18.8% percent

main thing was my time was slow
time extend is actually bad here lol


well as long as I can stay in the top 30% that would be fine. I don't really need the extra bubpy/woodpy, but 10k MP uh yes please
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 03:07:51 AM
well as long as I can stay in the top 30% that would be fine. I don't really need the extra bubpy/woodpy, but 10k MP uh yes please

Yup, those are my thoughts. 30% is all I really care about.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2015, 03:11:06 AM
Oh really? The way I read the scoring it seemed like losing a few seconds to pump up your combo count was the better option. Fair enough.

https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/666416584865488896 vs https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/666060846007754752

same dungeon, different team
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 11, 2015, 03:29:17 AM
Actually aRa has an advantage in blind resist and nuke for floor 2

do not do

pushbuttons are penalized
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 03:30:06 AM
it's only -5k and you save a lot of time

plus you basically have to either do that or poison but with poison you lose time with moving orbs/lose combo by just moving 1 orb

poison + orb jiggle might be the optimal choice though since time >> combos

also i wanted to try isis but there's no way for me to have a poison/nuke up by floor 2 with her so radra it is
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 11, 2015, 03:30:54 AM
The calculations!

Average Combo x 5000

Time left (seconds) x 500

Highest Cumulative Damage Dealt in one turn x 0.00025 (Caps at 10000, 40 million damage)

Active Skill used to finish an enemy x -5000*

* - I had a run where I got Vulcan down to like 3%, used Gungnir on him to kill him, and it still penalized me. So "skill-only defeat" is a bit misleading.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 03:50:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/gkUQNsE.jpg)

well ok
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 05:13:49 AM
>try coin yamato for the stone

get perfect match on hino -> skyfall 64

oh well it's okay i can still beat goemon to half and kill

>get him to half and NEVER GET A 64 BOARD

and there goes 5 million coins too

this game is literally just a stupid coin flip
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 05:22:40 AM
Ha ha my estimated rank in the ranking dungeon has risen considerably since I got my score. And I assume it will fall considerably before this event is over as people grind out better scores.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2015, 05:58:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2CP2Bqh.png)

And there's Lv10 0-stoned. thanks for the flampy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on December 11, 2015, 06:36:30 AM
Santa Kirin's ult is LIVE. Talk about a fast update.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 11, 2015, 06:41:04 AM
Santa Kirin's ult is LIVE. Talk about a fast update.

well we're probably gonna try for simu release again, so they kinda had to have this planned i guess
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on December 11, 2015, 07:24:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2CP2Bqh.png)

And there's Lv10 0-stoned. thanks for the flampy

GJ

(http://i.imgur.com/HesjwLq.jpg)

Cat team represent!
took 3 tries to 0-stone. none of the deaths were on shiva surprisingly. Didn't stall out parv's shield too :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 11, 2015, 08:02:27 AM
(http://imgur.com/ohlsdBE.jpg)

Looks like I'm stuck at 11% for tonight.

I don't think I'll drop below 30%, though, even if people gradually improve.

Edit:

(http://imgur.com/yxdlURm.jpg)

Motherfuckers.
Fuck whale leads. (Not aiming this towards anyone here)
I have the Italian pasta dragon, Zaerogoo.

huuuuuurp I got a 15/15 board from Ronia but instead of saving time I went for the 10 combo
which got even more skyfalls after that
rip clear time
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2015, 09:13:14 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/675238191742500865

Super Ult AA Luci.

Third type: Devil
Added awakenings: 3x Autoheal, 2x TPA (total 3)
Stat Boost: +700 HP, +150 ATK

AS Buff to "The Morning Star":
Max CD from 15 to 10 (base CD still 30?)
Original - Randomly spawn 3 Heart orbs from non Heart orbs.
New - Randomly spawn 6 Heart orbs from non Heart/Dark orbs

LS Buff
Original - Dark Att. HP and RCV x2. Dark Att. ATK x1.35
New - Dark Att. HP and RCV x2. Dark Att. ATK x1.5
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 11, 2015, 09:30:37 AM
itt Lucifer got rriiiiiippppeeeeedddd

time to work on him after ages again
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 11, 2015, 09:41:33 AM
oh thank you fat tama, just what I needed

(http://i.imgur.com/DmQm1if.png) (http://i.imgur.com/l68NZOF.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 11, 2015, 09:48:19 AM
oh, it looks like you were one of the boys who knocked me from a 5.1% score to 5.2%

what's it like, winning PAD?

Nah, but seriously. I hope everyone here hits the threshold that they want to. Myself? This is way too stressful for me to keep going, so I'm not intending to run it much more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2015, 09:51:45 AM
Nah, but seriously. I hope everyone here hits the threshold that they want to. Myself? This is way too stressful for me to keep going, so I'm not intending to run it much more.

Having ranked within the top 10% in JP of all 6 ranking dungeons so far, I can definitely empathize with the stress somewhat. At a certain point it becomes a stone-fest for me to get that perfect run.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 11, 2015, 10:20:32 AM
I had a perfect run set up but only 4-combo'd on Vulcan and lost 40 seconds orz

Edit: also holy shit son Luci got buff

I'm intrigued. (Also did I call the Angel/Demon duality in the art or what


Yes, yes I did)

That aside, I'm still noticing a lack of bind resist. He doesn't need all those auto heals lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2015, 12:06:34 PM
That aside, I'm still noticing a lack of bind resist. He doesn't need all those auto heals lol

As it appears, AA Luci is not entirely exempt from his RGB friends who also got 3 auto-heal
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 11, 2015, 12:26:26 PM
Gosh darn alarm clock kicked me out of ranked and invalidated my score. (╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 11, 2015, 12:27:48 PM
That is how it seems to be, yes.

Meanwhile, Yomi Dragon makes a great sub for him. I'm pleased.

Also! I had a decent ranking run. I'm at 5.7% now and I have little intention of running it any further unless I get knocked down under 10%.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 01:23:10 PM
I had a perfect run set up but only 4-combo'd on Vulcan and lost 40 seconds orz

Edit: also holy shit son Luci got buff

I'm intrigued. (Also did I call the Angel/Demon duality in the art or what


Yes, yes I did)

That aside, I'm still noticing a lack of bind resist. He doesn't need all those auto heals lol

Hey, all of the angels wanted bind resist and none of them wanted autoheals, so if he had actually gotten the good stuff I'd have been a little mad. I grudgingly recognize thst he's the most likely one to be used as a lead so he cares about autoheals even less, but with those stats and awakenings he might even start to see play as a sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 11, 2015, 01:35:37 PM
oh, it looks like you were one of the boys who knocked me from a 5.1% score to 5.2%

what's it like, winning PAD?

Nah, but seriously. I hope everyone here hits the threshold that they want to. Myself? This is way too stressful for me to keep going, so I'm not intending to run it much more.

Woke up today and went down 0.1% as well, I think it's because whales figured out how to do 130k.

Ilm/Rodin/Rodin/Rodin/Ra/Ilm, 10+ combo average and like 200+ seconds left, still 130k+ after penalties lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 01:48:45 PM
Oh badass, got my last Izanagi skillup just as he hit max level. And got my final elusive Sasuke skillup as well.

So for those who have followed ranking dungeons before, how far should I expect my current score 97,104/18.4%) to drop before we're done? Should I be worried about remaining in the top 30%? Because I'm sure I could grind out a better score but I'm kind of ready to be done with this now that there's other stuff to do.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 11, 2015, 02:24:02 PM
Oh badass, got my last Izanagi skillup just as he hit max level. And got my final elusive Sasuke skillup as well.

So for those who have followed ranking dungeons before, how far should I expect my current score 97,104/18.4%) to drop before we're done? Should I be worried about remaining in the top 30%? Because I'm sure I could grind out a better score but I'm kind of ready to be done with this now that there's other stuff to do.

Hard to say. I can't tell the demographic for NA players playing PAD, so I couldn't tell you how many people are lingering at each level. I can however, tell you that the score distributions are more sparse towards the 10%, until you get to the top which is full of the whales using the ideal team. I'd just assume that you have a much greater chance of dropping the lower you are.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on December 11, 2015, 02:38:31 PM
Rank 150 roll:
(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXbkZja2RDNXVDNms)
Not bad, not bad at all...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 11, 2015, 02:40:37 PM
Rank 150 roll:
(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXbkZja2RDNXVDNms)
Not bad, not bad at all...
Almost double your rank, still have not seen that guy on my end, haha.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2015, 02:42:18 PM
Woke up today and went down 0.1% as well, I think it's because whales figured out how to do 130k.

Ilm/Rodin/Rodin/Rodin/Ra/Ilm, 10+ combo average and like 200+ seconds left, still 130k+ after penalties lol

well without any of the penalties that team was hitting 167k in Japan so.....................
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 11, 2015, 04:04:50 PM
idk anymore

(http://i.imgur.com/mdYfwCs.png) (http://i.imgur.com/d0Mwj0i.png)

yukimura friends where
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2015, 04:14:12 PM
lmao my rank is actually slowing moving up in %

i guess because more people are playing but getting below 20%

na confirmed best server
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 04:20:38 PM
Yup, mine's steadily creeping up too. I expect it to drop back below 20% at some point, but I guess it'd be cool if it didn't.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 11, 2015, 05:49:59 PM
Aaaaaaaaa I'm dropping, meanwhile. I'm down from 5.7% to 6.1%.

Pls don't drop too much more, I wanna run challenge dungeons :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 11, 2015, 06:28:50 PM
I pulled a family out of the enhance egg machine.

(http://i.imgur.com/BgiVn0Ml.png) (http://imgur.com/BgiVn0M)

They recently moved into A Leilan's belly
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 11, 2015, 06:55:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6V3Vtt1.jpg)

Hooollyyy shit
I think I'm good for the rest of the event now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 11, 2015, 08:50:39 PM
Uh

Wow, damn dude.

What was your team?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 11, 2015, 09:16:49 PM
I tried using Byakkos and Goetia, but Byakko are way too unreliable to give me 9 dark orbs when I need it, and Goetia only supplies 3 orbs every 8 turns (cuuuurse you FotNS colab!)

So I had to make adjustments for faster or more potent orb generation, while still letting Lilith poison on floor two

(http://imgur.com/woUlzzF.jpg)

Floor one:
If six dark orbs exist, pop a Zaerogoo
If less than six dark orbs exist, pop Sirius, then Zaerogoo
Floor two:
Pop Lilith, match everything but dark to build up dark orbs
Floor three:
Pray that I have eight dark orbs, doubledong it up
Floor four:
If Sirius was popped before, use second Zaerogoo to charge his active and use Sirius
Get x16 with 9 orbs to kill Hermes
Floor five:
Memorize where all the light/heal/dark are before the Blind hits, match for x16
Floor six:
Use remaining dark orbs from Persephone to kill even with 7-8 dark orbs
Floor seven:
Ronia. Only twelve dark orbs are necessary so it's incredibly orbtrollproof
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2015, 10:01:12 PM
I'm torn on what to do with the ranking dungeon. On one hand I'm most likely going to get the prize I want, so I feel like I should save my stamina for Challenge 10. On the other hand I know I could improve my score quite a lot, and the reward for getting to a higher tier is at least equivalent to the meager reward for Challenge 10, even if I'm not in a hurry for either.

I guess maybe I'll do more Ranking Dungeon tonight just for goofs to see if I can improve my score, since the Challenge Dungeon will be around for a while. Might kick myself later for wasting the stamina, but I am curious.

Ordinarily I would be ignoring both to farm 5x4 Hera-Ur, but I don't think I'm even close to alone in saying that that seems like a total waste at this point. Even if I have to wait a while to get my resists, fuck relying on invades for anything.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 11, 2015, 10:43:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6V3Vtt1.jpg)

Hooollyyy shit
I think I'm good for the rest of the event now

What's terrifying is that the difference between your rank and mine is a mere 6000 points. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 11, 2015, 10:50:15 PM
I got 40.3%. I'm literally less than 100 points away from the 40% reward.

I'm done with this shit, I just don't have the team for this. At least it got me an excuse to spend my Flampys on something useful (Rowdin). I'm happy with just a PreDRA, thanks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: triangles on December 11, 2015, 11:56:26 PM
29.2% which can be improved (hi my name is triangles and what's a combo shield?) if I can keep about 30% I think that's realistic for me.
It also helped when I realized I should put Lilith in  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on December 12, 2015, 12:16:47 AM
So I did 2 tries and got this far, with Takeru team.

(http://i.imgur.com/SvTpfIs.png)(http://i.imgur.com/6r8H0B4.png)

Kind of worked, I guess I have space to improve as well, though its not gonna happen today, have to farm lits.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 12, 2015, 02:21:36 AM
I feel so scrub with my 85%....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2015, 02:31:23 AM
Ra is not good for this. The blind resist is nice, but the orbtrolling is unreal. Especially if I cut Kalloween for a poison, I've been getting stopped up by nearly every board. I just did five more runs, and of them I didn't have a solvable opening board once. So that's one Kali active down right away, and another one down for Hermes, so I'm pretty  much fucked right there. And as great as 60% blind resist should be for the ninjas, I only had it trigger one time out of those five. I'm not going to try using Ra again after this. I don't know what else I'll use, maybe Valkyrie? Seems dubious, but Hermes has terrible HP, so I should still be able to easily one-shot everything, and she's much less trollable.

Edit: Actually this might be a place for Kalloween. She's far less trollable and her weak-ass damage should still be enough to kill everything. Really wish I had that Neptune I just pulled finished so I could replace Snow White to get my poison, but whatever. It might work.

Edit edit: Yeah, Kalloween seems like she's better for this. I had a fairly bad run (where I had a coughing attack from this fucking cold that I can't shake in the middle of a combo) and it was still comparable to my best Ra run. Will look into this more tomorrow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2015, 08:44:44 AM
What's terrifying is that the difference between your rank and mine is a mere 6000 points. :ohdear:

a few hundred points is all it takes from 1 person to get from 10.1% to 10.0%
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 12, 2015, 09:01:50 AM
I don't have what it takes to score good, i'll simply try to get in the middle ground and be done with it....

I'm more pissed off at 2 other things right now:

1) A. Sopdet in Challenge 6..... i want to use A.Kirin but Sopdet is annoying as hell

2) New Pantheon in the GF, good! Midnight Gala, fantastic! Heroes in the day with the Kalis?....... GH, do you know the meaning of "flipping the bird"?
Of all the pantheons you had to choose the one i already have 4/5 of AND 2 of the dark representative?

Are you telling me you are bringing Juggler to NA and i should go for Pandora system? >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Probably going to do one pull on each day of the godfest. Day one:

-Spica

Oh cool, if I could pick one I probably would have picked her. I might max her out and replace Cu Chu on my Verdandi team. and she's another potential 5x4 lead. That lack of skillboosts is... worrying though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on December 12, 2015, 12:27:47 PM
Day one roll

- Chrono Turtle

are you joking with me mate
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 12, 2015, 01:46:19 PM
If anyone cares GungHo PEM data is in NA.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 12, 2015, 01:55:52 PM
Did one godfest pull before Christmas just because.

>Verdandi

Finally. Shame I really don't use wood much these days though...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on December 12, 2015, 03:27:38 PM
I rolled once and got Castor.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 12, 2015, 04:04:34 PM
My gambling addiction kicked in and emptied out my stones:

Zweihander (new)
Shotel (new)
Kurone (new)
Thor (new)
Spica (new)

Satisfied with Spica. Though I'm not sure what to do with Zwei and Shotel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 12, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
GEEEEEEEEET

(http://i.imgur.com/4BnLfj2.png) (http://i.imgur.com/gdLQFqM.png) (http://i.imgur.com/lZ2nSXw.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/UF5rs9f.png) (http://i.imgur.com/2itDSva.png) (http://i.imgur.com/6pgGMIw.png)

DUNKED ONNNNNN

(http://i.imgur.com/QIHyR7c.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7gzL6Lx.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 12, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
My gambling addiction kicked in and emptied out my stones:

Zweihander (new)
Shotel (new)
Kurone (new)
Thor (new)
Spica (new)

Satisfied with Spica. Though I'm not sure what to do with Zwei and Shotel.
Zweihander and Shotel can be super fast buffing death machimes for Awoken Karin and Leilan respectively if your team is laden with Attackers, assuming you have the respective chinagirl(s).  (Kopis is better for burst turns than Shotel on Leilan if you have him but Shotel is better for nonburst turns.  Though Leilan usually wants rows, Chirei has proven via Kopis that TPA is completely viable if you've the subs for it.  Presumably the same is true of Karin who ALSO prefers rows, wherein the Kopis of her team would be Masamune.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2015, 05:29:08 PM
GEEEEEEEEET

(http://i.imgur.com/4BnLfj2.png) (http://i.imgur.com/gdLQFqM.png) (http://i.imgur.com/lZ2nSXw.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/UF5rs9f.png) (http://i.imgur.com/2itDSva.png) (http://i.imgur.com/6pgGMIw.png)

DUNKED ONNNNNN

(http://i.imgur.com/QIHyR7c.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7gzL6Lx.png)

Been trying to figure out all week if Gabe can do this. The only real hindrance I think is the first floor. Not sure if I can handle that with my weak-ass number of skill boosts and heavy reliance on skills to do damage. 7x6 certainly makes that math different, but not sure how.

Ra packing an Izanami CAN do it, but Goemon is really sketchy. If he uses his bind and hits anything I care about I probably just lose on the spot. And Shiva is also just a coin flip for the turns I have to spend stalling my skills back up after his delay.

Might just try Gabe later. I think I need to accept that I just suck at PAD and I'm not going to get my ranking score much higher without spending way too much time on it. For no particular benefit no less.

Edit: Oh yeah, trying Challenge 10 would require me to have Gabriel friends. I guess I should just go hunt down a few non-hyper ones, if those exist. The extra ~4k HP probably doesn't matter THAT much at this point anyway. I wonder if I could do with with Gabriel/Ryune with a non-hyper Ryune? Probably actually, since there will be so many hearts on the board. Maybe I don't need 4x RCV for this at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 12, 2015, 05:44:24 PM
Been trying to figure out all week if Gabe can do this.

Mega Satan was a problem I sat for a while thinking. I actually went and ran the entirety of 7x6 Extreme again with Alraune/Bastet just to get a handle on my damage, and it turns out I had just enough to take him out. I don't know if you will be so lucky though, because it involved lots of shenanigans like not starting with no wood orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2015, 06:04:39 PM
Just did some test runs on Extreme Endless Corridor, and I think I would need to get a little lucky. For one thing I basically have to use a Blodin friend to have enough skillboosts, which sucks because Blodin is not a good lead. Due to circumstances I could only get two rows, and that had my damage ~1-2mil under being able to kill him. But that's also with minimal skyfalls.

So a screen where I can quickly get three jumbo-rows or some skyfall luck would let me do it for sure. Or, you know, if Beyzul had a fucking skillboost I would be able to do it 100 times out of 100, but he doesn't so fuck my team. It might take some luck or a few tries (or maybe a creative friend lead I'm just overlooking) but I'm pretty sure this works.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 12, 2015, 06:16:50 PM
So a screen where I can quickly get three jumbo-rows or some skyfall luck would let me do it for sure.

Dear lord, I never even considered the possibility of trying to do rows on 7x6. Good luck...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
Do enemies who have attacks that deal damage and bind do damage first then bind, or bind first then damage? Depending on the order having Gabe get bound the turn before I burst is an insta-loss.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 12, 2015, 07:08:04 PM
Do enemies who have attacks that deal damage and bind do damage first then bind, or bind first then damage? Depending on the order having Gabe get bound the turn before I burst is an insta-loss.
Pretty sure damage happens first, then added effects afterwards.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 12, 2015, 07:12:46 PM
Dear lord, I never even considered the possibility of trying to do rows on 7x6. Good luck...
It's tricky, but 7x6 rows CAN be done.  Much harder to maneuver, at least for me, but it's totally able to be a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
welp guys dont forget to check your scores before ranking ends

i've already fallen below 20%

and i dont have any stamina left to run it because sopdet ate it all (but at least i beat her finally, with ra dragon too)


c10 doesnt look too bad...

aside from goemon... *deep sigh*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 12, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
> Chirei and Alraune kick the ass of a lv10 Challenge, with the last 2 bosses being Fire

Ok guys i quit PAD. I feel such a scrub right now is not even funny  :V

Honestly Chirei, the day you clear Arena with Alraune i'll book a flight to wherever you live to come and shake your hand!

Congrats!  ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2015, 07:54:40 PM
pad isnt a competition silly

well aside from ranking dungeons lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 12, 2015, 08:10:59 PM
Do enemies who have attacks that deal damage and bind do damage first then bind, or bind first then damage? Depending on the order having Gabe get bound the turn before I burst is an insta-loss.

Just a note, when Goemon binds, he doesn't even do any damage, so if you "dodge" it, you effectively have one free turn to prepare.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2015, 10:22:44 PM
Just a note, when Goemon binds, he doesn't even do any damage, so if you "dodge" it, you effectively have one free turn to prepare.

Oh I don't care about Goemon. I don't even really have to swap to Beyzul on him. I'm just worried about binds from MegaSatan. But if it's damage first, then added effect then I'm cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Emelia K. Fletcher on December 12, 2015, 10:45:02 PM
i've entered the fray

372,390,342

time for a dandi experience
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on December 12, 2015, 10:49:16 PM
So if I want the Kalis, should I be waiting for the 4x exclusive fests? Or was there one? I don't remember.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
First run quickly ended in failure, but it was close. Got Satan down to less than 5%, and I didn't get especially good skyfalls or an especially good board beforehand. So if I broke up my rows a little better and/or got any blue skyfalls at all he would die. Still not sure fucking Blodin is up to clearing the rest of the dungeon, but he might be. I gotta try again, and this might hurt. It's going to cost me some stamina.

So if I want the Kalis, should I be waiting for the 4x exclusive fests? Or was there one? I don't remember.

I don't remember there being an exclusive fest. In my experience you just have to do a lot of godfest pulls and eventually it'll rain Kalis. There might be a better way I'm forgetting though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 13, 2015, 01:45:43 AM
time for a dandi experience
Oh you.

I think you'll get along just fine here, haha.  Welcome!  Feel free to join us on the IRC at #puzzleandlibrarians, too!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 13, 2015, 05:23:48 AM
Okay, so I didn't notice this at first, but PDX is slightly misleading about how Satan works in Challenge 10. They say he uses World Ends "every three turns", which I took to mean that he uses it on the count of three. So Demonic Shield (1), Wave Of Fear (2), World Ends (3). That is not the case, he actually uses Wave Of Fear twice. So either Demonic Shield doesn't count, or he uses it after using three other skills.

That means that I can actually do this with any lead with one skillboost. My team still has to be able to tank infinity Storm Punishers instantly after I kill Satan, so I can't use Neptune Dragon to be guaranteed to kill Satan with no effort, but I can use something with a higher multiplier than Odin has. So U/W I&I might work, and I still have a couple left. I'm not sure what the damage difference in going from x10 with 9 rows to x12 with 8 rows is, but hopefully it makes that tiny bit of difference that I need.

Tanking Athena until I can swap out of Beyzul is still going to be sketchy as fuck, but I feel like I have a better chance now than I thought I did.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 13, 2015, 05:45:41 AM
For 1 row:  Discounting other factors(Combos, OE, what have you) the difference should be(if my understanding is right), for 1 row:

10x, 9 rows:  19x effective mult(10x*1.9)
12x, 8 rows:  21.6x effective(12*1.8 )

Total damage gain(percentage):  The 12x/8row is ~13.6% stronger than the 10x/9 rows.

I don't know if this knowledge helps at all, but if it does, here it is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 13, 2015, 06:06:54 AM
That does help considerably, yes. In the sense that it confirms that there is a damage difference, and it isn't a negative one. I was so close before with Blodin that even a tiny damage increase should make it work. Good to know.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 13, 2015, 09:32:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/aEyJjp1.png)

OK, just 1 more Rodin to skill max left or something
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 13, 2015, 10:09:24 AM
It was time for me to wipe out my stones in the GF (considering that i don't plan to roll for Xmas at all). Results were.... kinda bad

- Claymore (dupe)
- Lumiel (dupe)
- Goetia (dupe)
- Goetia (WTF RNG?!)
- Sleeping Beauty (oh! finally something decent)
- Kano (dupe)
- Sun Wukong (O_O Heroes has just become the only pantheon that i possess ALL the cards of)
- Vritra (dupe)

Dupe-fest, and not even good ones at that  :X at least i scored the Fairy Girl for my color and Wukong
Gala once again proved its power.
This is officially the last time i roll during an Heroes GF  :V
and now to restock for the next time there is something worthy......
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 13, 2015, 10:48:18 AM
It was time for me to wipe out my stones in the GF (considering that i don't plan to roll for Xmas at all). Results were.... kinda bad

- Claymore (dupe)
- Lumiel (dupe)
- Goetia (dupe)
- Goetia (WTF RNG?!)
- Sleeping Beauty (oh! finally something decent)
- Kano (dupe)
- Sun Wukong (O_O Heroes has just become the only pantheon that i possess ALL the cards of)
- Vritra (dupe)

Dupe-fest, and not even good ones at that  :X at least i scored the Fairy Girl for my color and Wukong
Gala once again proved its power.
This is officially the last time i roll during an Heroes GF  :V
and now to restock for the next time there is something worthy......

I love how we are now at the point in the game where the only thing you can consider good out of that is the silver egg.

So if I want the Kalis, should I be waiting for the 4x exclusive fests? Or was there one? I don't remember.

We had one not too long ago, yes. It's entirely possible they might reprise it for the new years fest. I got rodin and blonia out of 10 rolls during it, and they're both 6* GFE.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 13, 2015, 04:10:31 PM
Day two godfest pull:

-Okuninushi

Badass. I've actually wanted him for quite a while. And I've gotta say, my gold rate has been crazy lately. It's been a while since I did a one-of roll and got a silver. Hadn't been getting very many pantheon gods, but I'm 2/2 for this event.

Edit: And after another Challenge 10 run this morning I'm giving up on it. I can reliably get past Satan now, but I can't stall on Athena long enough with 1x RCV to swap leaders back. Maybe with a lot of luck I could, but it's not worth the wasted stamina. So I can't get a good score in the ranking dungeon and I can't beat very hard dungeons. Oh well. I tried.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 13, 2015, 04:25:00 PM
Decided to do the calculations further, ccool, and discovered that while the difference narrows as row count increases(as one woild expect because the damage mult increases multiplicativey), even with three rows the 12x/8row team does more damage.

~7.7% more at 2 rows, ~2% more at 3.  Just in case either of those comes up ever or you were academically curious like me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 13, 2015, 04:32:14 PM
Decided to do the calculations further, ccool, and discovered that while the difference narrows as row count increases(as one woild expect because the damage mult increases multiplicativey), even with three rows the 12x/8row team does more damage.

~7.7% more at 2 rows, ~2% more at 3.  Just in case either of those comes up ever or you were academically curious like me.

That's good to know. At the level that I'm working at it probably doesn't practically matter very often, since it should usually just be a matter of "burst kills everything regardless". Where that does come in handy potentially is either bursting without swapping leads, or trying to conserve actives during a burst.

Unfortunately the very specific way MegaSatan works means that I usually can't try to save my Snow White active to make stalling Athena easier, since I need it to unbind people, but if he didn't work that way looking into how to burst with fewer blue orbs would be my next step, and those numbers would be great for that.

I'll keep that in mind for if it ever comes up though, thanks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 13, 2015, 07:14:43 PM
got 107k but that's still only 14.5%

oh well at least the later ranking dungeons are anti push button (no awakenings/actives)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 13, 2015, 07:25:50 PM
Still in the same reward tier as before, so I'm ok on ranking dungeons.

Like I said, I just don't have the team to deal with this shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 13, 2015, 10:58:17 PM
uhhhh

(http://i.imgur.com/15Nx1cb.png)

asaku pls


(http://i.imgur.com/2o816PT.png)

pls chill that was a fuckin 25 combo

all time damage record broken


(also


(http://i.imgur.com/sgsB9u1.png)


I&I/Ryune strong)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 13, 2015, 11:34:36 PM
all time damage record broken

Lol.

You beat my all-time record by quite a lot. My highest damage from a single sub (with a hypermax Kali on a Ra team in a no-hearts dungeon) was 10,868,800. Although I didn't have Sun Quan active that turn and I could have, which would have been 21,737,600. But it wasn't. :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 14, 2015, 12:06:54 AM
Reminds me of when my friends tried to do a damage competition after the 7x6 boards released.

(http://imgur.com/Y40BjmH.jpg)

Using Lu Bu is kinda cheating though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Aoshi-shi on December 14, 2015, 12:26:01 AM
asaku pls

Dang, you got me beat by a long shot. Was testing my ASakuya with the Challenge dungeons this afternoon and

(http://i.imgur.com/z1j92WG.png)(http://i.imgur.com/4gsWL3u.png)

RIP DIza
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 12:27:09 AM
So now that they're out, what do you guys think of the Constellations?

There's a lot to dislike about them. They have the most generic cookie-cutter stats we've seen in a pantheon in a looooong time (possibly ever?), lack of skillboosts is annoying, they use the popcorn mechanic which I at least find to be awkward and overused, they don't bring anything particular to the table that's new, they don't easily fit into a lot of teams due to their lack of rows or prongs, and one of their big selling points (double lock resists) is possible to overshoot and invalidate.

Despite all of that I kind of like them. I like that they're pushing orb enhance, which is a mechanic I've been finding myself liking a lot. Although they're not great at it yet, two orb enhances still isn't special at all, but I expect they'll get interesting when their evolutions come out. I like their leader skills despite how generic they are and their use of popcorn. Compared to Sumire, for example, I would rather have a Constellation any day, at least in the leader skill department. Sumire has the obvious benefit of a ridiculously spammable active, but I would rather have consistent, if bypassable, damage reduction and a slightly lower multiplier over huge but hard-to-set-up damage reduction just about any day.

As subs they seem like a bit of a hard sell, but that double lock resist means they certainly have a niche. And their active, while not especially new or exciting, is rock solid on certain teams. The "orbchange something normal as well as jammers and/or poison" mechanic limits itself to monocolored teams since there's pretty much no way you're pulling off any strenuous rainbow stuff after all of that orbchanging to one color, but that's true of most orbchangers, and they don't pay too harshly for all of the added effects, cooldown-wise.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2015, 01:31:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/h9ucMr4.png)

90% Silver Rate 10% Gold Rate for XMAS REM

i would recommend not following my example unless you have a lot of money to burn and don't really need much from the normal REM
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 14, 2015, 01:32:01 AM
I think they're solid. I don't care much for them as leaders really, but for their actives, I think they're pretty nice-- and double skill bind resist is pretty nice. I like their art as well.

I think I definitely want Spica and Castor. Alrescha, maybe.

(http://i.imgur.com/h9ucMr4.png)

90% Silver Rate 10% Gold Rate for XMAS REM

i would recommend not following my example unless you have a lot of money to burn and don't really need much from the normal REM

Roll until Gold. That's all I will do this year, I think.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 01:36:10 AM
My Christmas REM plan is to roll until I get Angel and Paulina. I have a 0/2 record for rolling for specific collab four-stars, so I think the odds of my getting them are next to zero. But since there are two things I want this time maybe I'll at least be able to have one? I don't particularly care about anything buts the silvers, but I wouldn't be upset to have any of them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2015, 01:39:01 AM

Roll until Gold. That's all I will do this year, I think.

sounds like a plan. i think all of the golds are good except maaaaybe genie.

My Christmas REM plan is to roll until I get Angel and Paulina. I have a 0/2 record for rolling for specific collab four-stars, so I think the odds of my getting them are next to zero. But since there are two things I want this time maybe I'll at least be able to have one? I don't particularly care about anything buts the silvers, but I wouldn't be upset to have any of them.

it should be worth noting that in my 33 rolls I didn't get xmas alraune

:(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 14, 2015, 01:56:36 AM
xmas rem in order of desire

RKali = Santakuya
Hakkunakah
CRoniamas = Paulina
Alraune
Angel
everything else
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Calamity on December 14, 2015, 02:18:48 AM
(http://ft.trillian.im/977f4d5d850e7242b3507d3ef31c6db39e9e4fd0/6DL6v4HrY5gUADhyaP0pGyihnNmHr.png)(http://ft.trillian.im/977f4d5d850e7242b3507d3ef31c6db39e9e4fd0/6DL6uGN2HvpftLqeAGIhp8auUVKIA.png)

Perfect run was waiting in a parking lot yesterday of all things. Got shoved to 6% today but I think I'm safe unless an army of whales wakes up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 02:28:50 AM
Is the Christmas REM out tomorrow? People keep asking me when it comes out and I've been telling them that my best guess is with part two of the Christmas event, but it it's out in Japan I assume that means we're getting it very soon. And the dungeon comes out tomorrow.

Christ, Challenge 9 is hard. I think I'm bad at PAD. orz.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2015, 02:37:30 AM
Is the Christmas REM out tomorrow? People keep asking me when it comes out and I've been telling them that my best guess is with part two of the Christmas event, but it it's out in Japan I assume that means we're getting it very soon. And the dungeon comes out tomorrow.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/puzzle-dragons-north-america-gungho/puzzle-dragons-christmas-arrives/1181917838503473

yes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 08:26:54 AM
worth it

(http://i.imgur.com/K9t2OKk.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Calamity on December 14, 2015, 08:43:55 AM
(http://ft.trillian.im/977f4d5d850e7242b3507d3ef31c6db39e9e4fd0/6DLvSSPy0JyGlGmy2ibkzDG1ilDZ8.png)
coulda stopped first roll, heh
christmas blessings~

Shiva team forever now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 14, 2015, 09:05:18 AM
Bah humbug
(http://imgur.com/Algi2kP.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: qMyon on December 14, 2015, 09:27:23 AM
3 rolls on Christmas REM - the light and the water 4-stars, then oh hi
[attach=1]

Too bad about the cost. It'll be a long time before I can use her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 14, 2015, 09:54:33 AM
$70 spent and not a single gold egg. Forget it.

Got all the silvers though, so meh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2015, 09:55:23 AM
I decided to purchase XMAS Ronia with my MP.

Totally worth it for that art.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on December 14, 2015, 12:40:37 PM
Reminds me of when my friends tried to do a damage competition after the 7x6 boards released.

(http://imgur.com/Y40BjmH.jpg)

Using Lu Bu is kinda cheating though.

And I can't even do 10 million damage overall ?_(ツ)_/?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dr Rawr on December 14, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
Huh so apparently red Sonia can drop from the Christmas rem. I guess that saves me the 300kmp I didn't have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2015, 12:51:44 PM
Huh so apparently red Sonia can drop from the Christmas rem. I guess that saves me the 300kmp I didn't have.

good luck pulling her though it's sub 0.5% chance or something
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dr Rawr on December 14, 2015, 12:57:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CGfz2Z8.jpg)
nonononoonon i meant that she did drop for me lol. i was just surprised because the message on the rem didnt mention it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 14, 2015, 01:06:46 PM
Had a gift card laying around, so I figured why not and give it a try.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWMC-0TUYAENCgC.png)

I just wanted Angel...  :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 01:52:02 PM
Two pulls were all I had stones for at the start.

-Alraune
-Lilith

Nothing amiss here yet. And is it just me, or are their leader skills (except Siren) kind of legit? They're not amazing, but they seem like a great deal, especially for newer players.

Edit: Seeing a disturbing lack of Paulinas outside of Trance though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: qMyon on December 14, 2015, 02:22:10 PM
Edit: Seeing a disturbing lack of Paulinas outside of Trance though.

1 more roll, and that makes 2 Paulinas for me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 02:41:22 PM
Edit: Seeing a disturbing lack of Paulinas outside of Trance though.

rdj sniped a Paulina last night.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 02:42:26 PM
Yeah, they all have startlingly good LSs, especially Alraune if I recall.  1.5X hp/2.5x atk, was it?  Siren got I think the worst one followed by Echidna(1.5/all and 2.5hp/1.5atk respectively?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on December 14, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
I have no self-control...
(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXN0ZyLUdoQlFZX28)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 02:56:12 PM
I'm inclined to say that Angel has the best one with x2 HP/x2 ATK (I think?). Too bad there's no fully compatible Norse, but I think that's close to the Raphael friend lead we've been looking for. Limiting to white healers sucks, but that still gets Valkyrie and Venus.

Angel and Raphael seem like their actives wouldn't be compatible, but they're effectively a stacking delay which is rare and interesting. Not sure how manyvplaces that matters in the entirety of the game, but where it does matter you could do some crazy shit with it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: triangles on December 14, 2015, 02:58:03 PM
Seeing a disturbing lack of Paulinas outside of Trance though.
Just snagged one along with Lilith.  The latter is not very cute :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 03:04:06 PM
What do you guys think of red Liu Bei? How does he compare to Awoken Kagu? His skill is basically better, his attack is higher, and his typing is more traditonal, but is that worth the lower HP? Do Awoken Shiva teams, among other red prong setups, have room for both?

Just snagged one along with Lilith.  The latter is not very cute :(

Yeah, that's what I said when she was revealed. Worst Christmas, not cute at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 03:13:51 PM
What do you guys think of red Liu Bei? How does he compare to Awoken Kagu? His skill is basically better, his attack is higher, and his typing is more traditonal, but is that worth the lower HP? Do Awoken Shiva teams, among other red prong setups, have room for both?

Yeah, that's what I said when she was revealed. Worst Christmas, not cute at all.

It may be hard to TPA with how many orbs Liu Bei generates sometimes as well. Other than that I think it is purely a statistical preference.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 14, 2015, 03:23:23 PM
as a Zaerogoo user who fields Persephone
You have to be very aware of how many heal/dark/light orbs you already have, but getting 4 distinct dark matches isn't terrible even if you're saturated. It's different for Shiva, who still needs 7 total combos regardless
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
I'm used to Liu Bei on a Verdandi team, so I know how flooding the board is a potential risk. Didn't occur that Kagu might be better for Shiva because he might make hitting seven combos easier, but I can see that.

Just watched my roommate pull three Liliths in a row. The game crapped out on him and ate ten stones on one pull somehow and spit out two Liliths. They were all different levels so it's not that one of them got duplicated or anything, but that's still sketchy as hell. Dangers of playing PAD on trashy Comcast wireless I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on December 14, 2015, 03:37:51 PM
Three pulls, three Paulinas.

Not as disappointing as some special egg machines have been, but still. I don't mind that they're silvers, just that it's three of the same in a row.

Well, hopefully I'll get something different next time. I'd like to think red Liu, but I can't let the desire sensor know, maaannn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
1 roll

Siren

k good got a blue bae time to quit while I'm ahead
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 14, 2015, 05:35:47 PM
What do you guys think of red Liu Bei? How does he compare to Awoken Kagu? His skill is basically better, his attack is higher, and his typing is more traditonal, but is that worth the lower HP? Do Awoken Shiva teams, among other red prong setups, have room for both?

he's really bad for shiva

his HP is low and you kinda care about that because you intend to burst heal super hard, his active is basically shit, being both longer and changing two colors, and while he does bring an SBR kagu doesn't to the table he's still a mixed sub in prong land

the true answer is really neither, embrace rozuel supremecy but i can forgive those she has not blessed

Sets also better for long-cd cards because that 1 turn gives you enhanced damage and a more usable orb ratio

in short, red bei is the worst red tri-prong, sure glad I won't roll hi-

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j1QbJLUBAP8/Vm77pr1b2HI/AAAAAAAAC7A/E7vKdm5YTYA/w506-h900/15%2B-%2B1)

:negative:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
[foilhat]Desire sensor working as intended.[/foilhat]
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 05:53:05 PM
Yeah, I guess I forgot that triple prongs are super common now. The real question though is where does Babby Rodin fit into all of this?

I still stand behind green Liu Bei on Verdandi. With an orb enhancer you can still do respectable damage off of a flooded board and high attack is at a super-premium for her. But Verdandi kind of sucks, so it's not really comparable to Shiva. :v

Edit: Actually, on that topic, does Verdandi suck? Is anybody getting endgame work done eith her? I certainly can't, but apparently I'm horrible at this game so maybe people are better enough at prongs than I am that she is clearibg hard stuff somehow and I just missed it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 05:56:45 PM
Edit: Actually, on that topic, does Verdandi suck? Is anybody getting endgame work done eith her? I certainly can't, but apparently I'm horrible at this game so maybe people are better enough at prongs than I am that she is clearibg hard stuff somehow and I just missed it.

I should probably note that if you took all my Alraune clears and swapped the positions of Alraune and Verdandi, you'd probably almost instantly have a much better team. The restriction on the whole team needing to be Balanced is also lifted as well... which is pretty huge.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 14, 2015, 06:01:11 PM
... oh

I apparently got knocked out of the 20th percentile and wound up on 20.1% or something last night :colonveeplusalpha:

Didn't want that py anyway, I guess.

Got a Christmas Paulina, who is super good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 06:09:05 PM
I should probably note that if you took all my Alraune clears and swapped the positions of Alraune and Verdandi, you'd probably almost instantly have a much better team. The restriction on the whole team needing to be Balanced is also lifted as well... which is pretty huge.

Hmm fair enough. Maybe I should try her with a Bastet friend then. That does solve her "plenty of bulk, nothing of anything else" problem to a degree. That is how that team works, right? With a Bastet friend?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 14, 2015, 06:13:38 PM
my 1.7% score decayed to 2.6% (http://imgur.com/4SdkxNo)

I'm okay with this, as it's a good indicator of how Whaley NA is if I can get that score with Zaerogoo.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
Hmm fair enough. Maybe I should try her with a Bastet friend then. That does solve her "plenty of bulk, nothing of anything else" problem to a degree. That is how that team works, right? With a Bastet friend?

Yes. Just match high combos and go. Pretty simple. Should be able to floor nearly everything with enough investment.

also

(http://i.imgur.com/HVeWqEX.png)

stacking time extends is for BITCHES
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 14, 2015, 06:41:48 PM
Chirei learned auto-haste in the ranking dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 07:20:17 PM
Yeah, I guess I forgot that triple prongs are super common now. The real question though is where does Babby Rodin fit into all of this?

I still stand behind green Liu Bei on Verdandi. With an orb enhancer you can still do respectable damage off of a flooded board and high attack is at a super-premium for her. But Verdandi kind of sucks, so it's not really comparable to Shiva. :v

Edit: Actually, on that topic, does Verdandi suck? Is anybody getting endgame work done eith her? I certainly can't, but apparently I'm horrible at this game so maybe people are better enough at prongs than I am that she is clearibg hard stuff somehow and I just missed it.
As an owner of miniROdin, I really,REALLY wanted to like him because triprongs off decent Atk(I think he maxes at like 1500-1600ish which is not the best triprong Atk, but certainly not bad), but that all-too-situational active limits his viability in the worst way.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 07:27:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aQGiFHp.jpg)

Well shit, this happened on my first Mythical run while clearing 5x4 Hera-Ur for the stone. I think I have too many of these fuckers now.

Also I forgot I don't have any Sumire friends so I doubt I'm going to be able to pull this off on Legend Plus.

Edit: OH WHAT THE FUCK THE LEGEND PLUS RUN HAD ONE TOO. Can anyone else confirm if these guys are super common or not?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aQGiFHp.jpg)

Well shit, this happened on my first Mythical run while clearing 5x4 Hera-Ur for the stone. I think I have too many of these fuckers now.

Also I forgot I don't have any Sumire friends so I doubt I'm going to be able to pull this off on Legend Plus.
When do you want her ready by?

("ready" in this case can only mean max level/Awakening right now, sadly, but it's something)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 07:36:57 PM
Too late because I already went in, but the answer would have been "next 45 minutes because I already bought the dungeon without looking". And I don't have the stamina for snother run if I lose. Thanks though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 07:42:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aQGiFHp.jpg)

Well shit, this happened on my first Mythical run while clearing 5x4 Hera-Ur for the stone. I think I have too many of these fuckers now.

Also I forgot I don't have any Sumire friends so I doubt I'm going to be able to pull this off on Legend Plus.

Edit: OH WHAT THE FUCK THE LEGEND PLUS RUN HAD ONE TOO. Can anyone else confirm if these guys are super common or not?

I think the lowest invade rate I have heard reported was... 20%. Which makes sense given that Mythical is supposedly 15%. Either way, I have heard that they are not terribly hard to find. I ran into one on my first attempt but died to it since it actually DOES hit for Legend+ damage despite everything else being unchanged in statistics.

Also if you count the fact that you were shafted on invades for the stat up ones, now everything's coming to a head and you'll probably get bazillions of them. Good luck.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 07:43:24 PM
Too late because I already went in, but the answer would have been "next 45 minutes because I already bought the dungeon without looking". And I don't have the stamina for snother run if I lose. Thanks though.
Oh, I had meant "if you bought it again at some point," haha.  I can't QUITE get her ready THAT fast.  I can get her started though if you think you'll be using her a lot.  Just message me or something ingame because I only use her once in a while for variety right now due to lack of practice(an due to Summer!Awilda not being a thing yet because I need levels and skill levels and a metric ton of TAMAs for her).

EDIT:  Coincidentally, the Present Egg I happen to have in my box is for Bleu.  Go figure!

...oh wait I already max leveled her.  Wow I feel silly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 14, 2015, 07:45:34 PM
Holy hell.  I'm not complaining or anything, but the enhance PEM has given me like six fatties so far.

Thing is generous. <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 07:59:28 PM
Aaah shit I died on my Legend Plus run because the set of five blue orbs I matched didn't contain an enhance and I didn't notice until it was too late. That's been coming up a lot with Sumire. I kind of don't like her.

I actually let it go without stoning, which I didn't think I would say about a latent. But I'm saving stones for Christmas and latents are common soon, so fuck it. Chalk another one up to "commandercool fucks up absolutely everything".

And JQ, I do intend to try this again soon-ish (with more stamina, I don't know what I was thinking). I might need a skillmax Sumire friend to pull this off, but if let me know when yours is done for insurance. I'm in no hurry at this point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2015, 08:06:43 PM
I've heard the invade rate is 20%, which isn't too bad I guess (same as the chance of a skillup during x2)

way better than bs like elia
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 08:14:47 PM
Well, I can't really give you skillmax anytime soon sadly, but I can get her mostly Awoken at the very least right away, and as my edit states I just remembered I had already maxed her level so there's that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 08:17:27 PM
Right, I understand that skillmaxing her is not easy, but if I fuck it up (and I probably will) and run out of skillmax ones having one more wpuld be useful backup.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2015, 08:20:10 PM
If you still have your BF I can dump my bubpys into my Sumire and have her up for you and then you wont have to worry about running out :V :moogy:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 08:31:15 PM
One pull, let's gooooo!

(http://i.imgur.com/MRS9OrI.jpg)

Best(in art) Christmas card obtained.  I can rest easy now and gather stones for other things.  ...once I have stamina.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 08:43:00 PM
Best(in art) Christmas card obtained.

:colbert:

Angel.

Or Siren, actually. But Alraune pulls a solid third place.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 14, 2015, 08:47:46 PM
Apparently Godin+Amaterasu is airtight in terms of 5x4 Hera-Ur.

I'll look more into it and the implications. If I field Godin along with innumerable light healers I can see it working. Maybe.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 08:57:25 PM
Apparently Godin+Amaterasu is airtight in terms of 5x4 Hera-Ur.

I'll look more into it and the implications. If I field Godin along with innumerable light healers I can see it working. Maybe.

rdj apparently does this, might wanna ask him

Aaah shit I died on my Legend Plus run because the set of five blue orbs I matched didn't contain an enhance and I didn't notice until it was too late. That's been coming up a lot with Sumire. I kind of don't like her.

I actually let it go without stoning, which I didn't think I would say about a latent. But I'm saving stones for Christmas and latents are common soon, so fuck it. Chalk another one up to "commandercool fucks up absolutely everything".

I actually didn't stone when I died either for the exact same reasons, so you're not alone there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 14, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
rdj apparently does this, might wanna ask him

I run normal Mythical/5x4 Legend Plus with GOdin/Z&H/Z&H/Lucifer/Damascus/GOdin, so not quite the same thing.

For Legend Plus, assuming you're going with just one GOdin and not running something like Damascus, some damage amounts to look out for, assuming you're at full health for each:

--synced above-50% ogres: 16128
--Spark Edge: ~10547
--God Gaia Breath: ~9863
--Flame Pillar: ~19952 (you should not be getting hit by this, ideally)
--High Kick: 6852
--Graviton Bomb: ~24184
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 14, 2015, 09:35:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aQGiFHp.jpg)

Well shit, this happened on my first Mythical run while clearing 5x4 Hera-Ur for the stone. I think I have too many of these fuckers now.

Also I forgot I don't have any Sumire friends so I doubt I'm going to be able to pull this off on Legend Plus.

Edit: OH WHAT THE FUCK THE LEGEND PLUS RUN HAD ONE TOO. Can anyone else confirm if these guys are super common or not?

NO. NO THEY ARE NOT.

I DID ABOUT 20 RUNS FOR THOSE FUCKERS AND ONLY HAD TWO EVEN SHOW UP

YES I'M STILL MAD >:(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2015, 09:39:17 PM
Did a few test runs of Verdandi with a Bastet friend. Even with my meager combo power the difference was noticeable. I will be lookibg further into this.

Right now my team is Verdandi/Cu Chu/Liu Bei/Armadel/Susano/Friend. It's conspicuously lacking a real enhance, which I'm sure would be very useful. Can you see any obvious changes to make here? I'd kind of like to work Spica in somehow, probably in place of Cu Chu.

NO. NO THEY ARE NOT.

I DID ABOUT 20 RUNS FOR THOSE FUCKERS AND ONLY HAD TWO EVEN SHOW UP

YES I'M STILL MAD >:(

Aw, that sucks. And yet, somehow, sounds familiar.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 14, 2015, 09:43:29 PM
:colbert:

Angel.

Or Siren, actually. But Alraune pulls a solid third place.
Angel gets a respectable second place from me, followed by Ecchi/Siren in some order I don't know with Lilith bringing up the rear(as well as her own, IIRC).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ghaleon on December 14, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
Havent played this for awhile. Not interested in starting again. But I find myself enjoying fooling around with Mikumikudance. Given the character designs for this game are fantastic, I find it very strange that there would be no PAD MMD models (except for dumpty. But she is a collab right ao she prob doesnt even count).

Am i just failing at looking? Have you guys seen or heard anything? How the carp does a game as big as PAD have no mmd fan models?!

I know there are no 3d models to rip or whatever but Ive seen many peoplr makr mmd models without a "physical" reference.

But yeah. If anyone knows anything please pm me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 14, 2015, 10:32:27 PM
They're probably legally aggressive like Nintendo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 14, 2015, 11:26:04 PM
Doing Challenge 7 and 8 blind, because I'm dumb.

Challenge 8 was interesting. Never fought Venus before. Despite Venus's plea to be gentle with her, Zaerogoo skyfalls went "nope"

Michael appeared and I'm panicking. "I have to kill him turn one or else!"
So I pop Byakko and kill him turn one.

Commandercool, I'm holding this Gabriel against you. Preemptively binding my Zaerogoo for five turns? I have no bind recovery and no heal orbs???
Fortunately he gave me four turns to chip his HP down, but he still landed his gravity and I had one turn of bind going into Uriel.
(http://i.imgur.com/LWm7W5O.jpg)
My reaction when I OHKO Uriel with only one leader??!??!!

I killed Noah for her troubles of healing me, and proceeded to kill the Twinlits and Sandalphon too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2015, 11:45:19 PM
Did a few test runs of Verdandi with a Bastet friend. Even with my meager combo power the difference was noticeable. I will be lookibg further into this.

Right now my team is Verdandi/Cu Chu/Liu Bei/Armadel/Susano/Friend. It's conspicuously lacking a real enhance, which I'm sure would be very useful. Can you see any obvious changes to make here? I'd kind of like to work Spica in somehow, probably in place of Cu Chu.

I'm unsure how much a real enhance would be needed but I suspect Freyja would be the obvious optimal choice if you were to ever obtain her. I can personally ignore this somewhat because I make that setup Balanced and therefore can just use Medjedra. Cu Chu is not bad because that one TPA really gets amplified on Bastet mults, and 5 turns is just nice to have. Spica might be alright to try out, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Aoshi-shi on December 15, 2015, 12:01:29 AM
yep

(http://i.imgur.com/jU7MzJ8.png)

Archangel was the only one that I honestly needed though  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 15, 2015, 01:04:09 AM
Commandercool, I'm holding this Gabriel against you. Preemptively binding my Zaerogoo for five turns? I have no bind recovery and no heal orbs???
Fortunately he gave me four turns to chip his HP down, but he still landed his gravity and I had one turn of bind going into Uriel.

(http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_623.jpg)

Naw man, that ain't my husbando. See how he's only moderately beautiful? I don't even know that guy.

It's a little disappointing we've never seen Guiding Archangel Gabriel as an enemy. I wonder what he would do. Probably lots of binds, his active is Miracle Of Ice after all.

I'm unsure how much a real enhance would be needed but I suspect Freyja would be the obvious optimal choice if you were to ever obtain her. I can personally ignore this somewhat because I make that setup Balanced and therefore can just use Medjedra. Cu Chu is not bad because that one TPA really gets amplified on Bastet mults, and 5 turns is just nice to have. Spica might be alright to try out, though.

Yeah I guess I don't know how much one is needed either, and yes I think Freyja would be best case scenario. But I don't have her. With double Verdandis my practical max burst tended to be in the <4 million range, which isn't really enough for a lot of stuff, but the extra Bastet damage might push it over the edge, I don't know.

I find myself not actually using Cu Chu very often, but that might be foolishness on my part. Because Verdandi has momentum problems and seems to rely on chipping more than bursting, at least in my experience, my response to a bunch of jammers or poison is usually to orbchange the board so that I don't miss out on a turn of damage. With only one Verdandi I can rely on panic boardchanges less easily, so I figured some insurance would be nice. I don't have anywhere near the math skill necessary to figure out how losing a prong but gaining an orb enhances works out damage-wise, but mostly she's there for the haste and lock resist. I'll at least give her a try once it's possible to skillmax her, but that may not be for a while and I'm certainly not willing to lose Woodpys.

How replacable do you think Susano is? He's great, obviously, and for somebody like me that time extend is a lifesaver, but even with just one Verdandi lead this team is pretty bulky so I wonder if swapping him out for GZL might not be better. Doing that means I lose a lot of the bulk that makes him less necessary though, so maybe not. I don't know, I can experiment. I even kind of like the idea of squeezing Griffin Rider in there somewhere even though he's kind of a sketchy choice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 15, 2015, 01:17:15 AM
How replacable do you think Susano is? He's great, obviously, and for somebody like me that time extend is a lifesaver, but even with just one Verdandi lead this team is pretty bulky so I wonder if swapping him out for GZL might not be better. Doing that means I lose a lot of the bulk that makes him less necessary though, so maybe not. I don't know, I can experiment. I even kind of like the idea of squeezing Griffin Rider in there somewhere even though he's kind of a sketchy choice.

Play around and swap out when required. You can go a lot further just straight up being able to use green than Balanced.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on December 15, 2015, 02:28:48 AM
he's really bad for shiva

his HP is low and you kinda care about that because you intend to burst heal super hard, his active is basically shit, being both longer and changing two colors, and while he does bring an SBR kagu doesn't to the table he's still a mixed sub in prong land

the true answer is really neither, embrace rozuel supremecy but i can forgive those she has not blessed

Sets also better for long-cd cards because that 1 turn gives you enhanced damage and a more usable orb ratio

in short, red bei is the worst red tri-prong, sure glad I won't roll hi-

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j1QbJLUBAP8/Vm77pr1b2HI/AAAAAAAAC7A/E7vKdm5YTYA/w506-h900/15%2B-%2B1)

:negative:

ahahahahaha :V chaore pls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ghaleon on December 15, 2015, 03:45:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/DMEAdqy.jpg)

oh yeah this has been finished for a long while now and i don't see GOLD on her name so can someone please get me that gold name

Since I posted here recently I was just curious how my ex-account was doing... Dear goodness looks like it went to the right hands =P. I still probably would have been way too lazy to 99 everything a character.. but haku's a healer now? daayuuum, that's awsome. I recall loving healers but lamented how their stats were universally pretty poor.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 15, 2015, 04:43:20 AM
he's really bad for shiva

his HP is low and you kinda care about that because you intend to burst heal super hard, his active is basically shit, being both longer and changing two colors, and while he does bring an SBR kagu doesn't to the table he's still a mixed sub in prong land

He actually doesn't have an SBR.  He has the same awakenings as regular G/R Liu Bei except the green row became a red row.

So he's not really great. But none of the 3 TPA red cards have SBR anyway. I guess Liu Bei himself doesn't really have anything to distinguish himself with. compared to the others.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 15, 2015, 05:05:27 AM
He actually doesn't have an SBR.  He has the same awakenings as regular G/R Liu Bei except the green row became a red row.

So he's not really great. But none of the 3 TPA red cards have SBR anyway. I guess Liu Bei himself doesn't really have anything to distinguish himself with. compared to the others.

wow shit i swore he did

he's mostly just shit for raw prong then
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 15, 2015, 05:48:41 AM
wow shit i swore he did

he's mostly just shit for raw prong then

yeah he's pretty trash in red. =v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 15, 2015, 06:04:16 AM
yeah he's pretty trash in red. =v

the only use we found was lei as a mixed sub tbh but yeah
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 15, 2015, 09:49:11 AM
yeah he's pretty trash in red. =v

Liuuu Bei is now officially "trash" (at least in red)..... powercreep is a fearsome enemy  :3 (not saying you are wrong trance, just amused by the fact that not too long ago Bei was considered a top-team steamroller and now....)

On an unrelated note, MFW Izanami is eating hundreds of stam on that last goddamm skill-up and my DQ Hera goes 3/3 using Santa Hera  :trollface:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 15, 2015, 10:22:31 AM
Liuuu Bei is now officially "trash" (at least in red)..... powercreep is a fearsome enemy  :3 (not saying you are wrong trance, just amused by the fact that not too long ago Bei was considered a top-team steamroller and now....)

He's okay but not great in Green. He's just shit in Red because all the other triple TPA cards in Red fulfill a specific niche while Liu Bei is just kind of there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 15, 2015, 01:59:50 PM
I like the red art more at least :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 15, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Hmm, this is a maddening form of trolling that I don't think I've ever seen before. So I'm working on making Awoken Venus this week, not least as an excuse to throw away Shynpys because I have too many. But to do that I need four more white keepers. Five keeper invades so far today, every single one was a black keeper. Come on, seriously?! At this point clearly I should've just done Keeper Of Gold all day, but I wanted some Rainbow Keepers too. This sucks.

Edit: Okay, six black keepers in a row. Fine, fuck this. I give up. Guess I won't ever make Awoken Venus after all. Apparently white keepers cost at least 200 stamina each and I still need four more. Not that I'm any stranger to blowing an entire day's worth of stamina for nothing, but there's other stuff I could be wasting my time on. Oh yeah, and all six of those black keepers were extra, so I went 0/6 on golem skillups during a 2.5x skillup event as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 15, 2015, 04:00:47 PM
FINALLY got that stupid last skill-up on DIza!

16 runs between today and last time to get it..... fuck you 2.5x rate

Oh and i got ONE skill-up on HIza too so now i only need another few billions of stam to skillmax her too! >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 15, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
Liuuu Bei is now officially "trash" (at least in red)..... powercreep is a fearsome enemy  :3 (not saying you are wrong trance, just amused by the fact that not too long ago Bei was considered a top-team steamroller and now....)

liu bei was considered a steam roller due to too good timing on his release and having an immediately obvious, and 'good' place for him to go

in actuality he was always stupid overhyped and a super mediocre card, and when he loses the slam dunk area to go and is first to deal fully with his mediocrity you come to realize

-liu bei really fucking sucks-.

that's not to say powercreep had nothing, because tbh rozzy is one of the strongest tri-prongs to date imo, but it's a lot of him just not really working out of the niche he existed in and actual competition
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 15, 2015, 05:33:43 PM
Liu Bei could probably have been reasonable if instead of having a 3000 HP heal, he just had a 8 CD like all the other Double Attack Stances.

That level of orb change is also kinda a row thing to begin with.
When the opportunity to take Vishnu appeared, well, it seems a lot of people switched and never looked back?

Man, Rozuel is freaking cool, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 15, 2015, 05:35:08 PM
Green Bei is still plenty good.  He's my go-to for Real Soviet Damage on Bastet if I need to break fatty defense or something, but for general use I'll bring someone else with better awakenings and a less doofy active (and more HP).

It's no secret that he's basically a straight downgrade from Vishnu though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 15, 2015, 05:40:06 PM
Do people run double Vishnu subs given the opportunity? I know it's kind of gimmicky, but the idea of being able to keep his active up all the time is appealing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 15, 2015, 06:19:25 PM
I've seen people run double Zaerogoo for various reasons. Don't see why Vishnu wouldn't work, unless you're really lacking in HP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 15, 2015, 11:23:23 PM
The holidays are for spending with your husbando, waifu, or otherwise significant-other-anime-person.

(http://i.imgur.com/8CZuC8Wl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/8CZuC8W.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/vflnb8xl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/vflnb8x.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on December 15, 2015, 11:52:52 PM
Got her while snowglobe hunting.

(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXV3NuLUYyWndwbDg)
40% drop rate? Good enough  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on December 16, 2015, 12:11:25 AM
Vishnu is better for general purpose.
but personally I would really prefer liu bei if I'm going to have to go against some stupid enemies like A. Shiva.
It's just more comforting for me to know I'd be able to have a >15 green orb board pretty consistently for dealing 10mil+ damage when I need it rather than hoping I don't get screwed up by Verdandi boardflush + 2 more green orbs and skyfalls from vishnu. Still don't see how 3k heal justifies 2 extra cds, they should buff him to 9cd already.

But yes, I believe double vishnu with meimeis are pretty popular.

Whatever works for people I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 16, 2015, 01:09:57 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zei0ZVfabNE/VnC5VOszRpI/AAAAAAAAC9g/WjvIRtcdkc8/w346-h615/15%2B-%2B1)

things that were overdo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 16, 2015, 01:50:35 AM
Green Bei is still plenty good.  He's my go-to for Real Soviet Damage on Bastet if I need to break fatty defense or something, but for general use I'll bring someone else with better awakenings and a less doofy active (and more HP).

It's no secret that he's basically a straight downgrade from Vishnu though.

gl max-skilling 2 vishnus

to the earth insect dragon salt mine!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 16, 2015, 01:53:04 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lz7qpdxyOTE/VnDDUBx9-mI/AAAAAAAAC-g/doUs8hQ25RM/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

also took rdj's advice to heart
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 16, 2015, 02:59:47 AM
So...what difficulty is best to farm for snow globes? I've heard the invade rate isn't that good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 16, 2015, 03:00:57 AM
So...what difficulty is best to farm for snow globes? I've heard the invade rate isn't that good.

none, don't bother farming it for snow globes

they're not invades but rather rare spawns, so even if you see them in a dungeon, they drop incredibly rarely, perhaps below 3% of the time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2015, 03:47:57 AM
So...what difficulty is best to farm for snow globes? I've heard the invade rate isn't that good.

So far i'm up to 20 runs of SuperBlessed and seen 0.

This is not including the fact that I have to get the assholes to drop on top of that...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 16, 2015, 03:53:56 AM
So far i'm up to 20 runs of SuperBlessed and seen 0.

This is not including the fact that I have to get the assholes to drop on top of that...

50+ of super blessed and gone 0/3 and 3 of them were in the same run

 :barf:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 16, 2015, 03:57:34 AM
They're basically piis. Don't bother.

I'm just running the dungeon because the exp is good. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2015, 04:04:18 AM
I dropped a couple last year out of a decent number of runs. My experience was definitely that they were more common than people were saying, but I'm sure that was just a fluke.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on December 16, 2015, 04:52:09 AM
Forget snow globes
Alraune went 0/5 on nagas
Then I went like 10 runs without naga drops
Halp
Haven't even seen a snow globe lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2015, 11:08:59 AM
Forget snow globes
Alraune went 0/5 on nagas
Then I went like 10 runs without naga drops
Halp
Haven't even seen a snow globe lol

Gdi man I just went like 0/8 u infected me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 16, 2015, 11:26:37 AM
i guess u

NAGAnna get any naga

(ssp coming soon)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2015, 02:01:54 PM
Rounded up the stones for one more Christmas pull.

-Paulina

Finally! I actually pulled a collab silver that I want! I still want Angel and Siren, but honestly I might just stop here. I'm getting "You're going to pull four Liliths in a row" vibes real bad now. And Paulina was definitely my main want.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 16, 2015, 02:30:47 PM
This. This is the dream right here.

(http://i.imgur.com/2MyhO8g.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 16, 2015, 02:31:56 PM
That's what, 19 rows?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 16, 2015, 02:47:03 PM
That's what, 19 rows?

Correct, though I could replace Yamato with a 4th Rodin and have 22 rows instead
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 16, 2015, 03:51:31 PM
900 day login pull got me xmas alraune. Now I have the whole set =3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2015, 03:58:23 PM
idk anymore doode

(http://i.imgur.com/FmaXi4Q.png)

bonus: me somehow overflowing the game

(http://i.imgur.com/Fj0b6dL.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 16, 2015, 05:00:35 PM
I got a Santa Genie from my last pull on the christmas REM.

Santa Genie, though...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 16, 2015, 05:11:35 PM
Better than rolling 20+ times and getting nothing. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2015, 05:22:53 PM
Better than rolling 20+ times and getting nothing. :(

What were you trying to get? Anything specific?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 16, 2015, 06:33:56 PM
My goal was just "roll until gold". And nothing. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 16, 2015, 06:51:13 PM
So, new livestream tomorrow morning (~15 hours).

Any guesses as to what we're getting?  Besides more fun with coop dungeons, that is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 16, 2015, 07:02:42 PM
My guess is Awoken 3K or Split/Awoken Heroes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 16, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
Explanations on the new coop awakenings (god boost, and wagging sanic finger). Hopefully there's even more than just those. Like if god boost really just boosts god types then there should be other type boosts too like devil/machine etc.

Awoken Indra/Vritra because seriously

Super ult Amon/Baal, Awoken DevilLuci

Ults for the "fallen" GFEs like GZL, GGY, Avalon Drake, Apocalypse etc.

New MP Dragon series maybe (hopefully not pls no power creeperino)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 16, 2015, 07:20:09 PM
Explanations on the new coop awakenings (god boost, and wagging sanic finger). Hopefully there's even more than just those. Like if god boost really just boosts god types then there should be other type boosts too like devil/machine etc.

Yeah I think these are givens, they pretty much said they'd be revealing what they were during this stream iirc

Quote
Awoken Indra/Vritra because seriously

Super ult Amon/Baal, Awoken DevilLuci

Gonna file these under "likely"

Quote
Ults for the "fallen" GFEs like GZL, GGY, Avalon Drake, Apocalypse etc.

Gonna file these under "unlikely" ;_;

Quote
New MP Dragon series maybe (hopefully not pls no power creeperino)

BASTET DRAGON, YOU SAY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 16, 2015, 07:36:26 PM
oh boy Isis dragon?

actually that would be kind of weird. There's already an MP dragon for water rows and rainbow matching so what would be do? Be a sub? So like better version of aIsis with like the same att and typing but also triple TPA instead of water rows/orb and an active with a stronger shield + haste?

Not sure if that would be worth 300k MP and It would just make the optimal RaDra team even more expensive

and also dragons are not waifu


Bastet dragon though is actually really needed because Odin dragon is useless and there's no combo MP dragons yet
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
I'll be in MP dragon purchasing range soon (I suppose I could buy one now if I dump a bunch of godfest exclusives I don't care about like Zuoh) but I don't know what I would want to buy. The only current MP dragon I would want to play would be dRAgon, but I only have one black Kali.

Not sure what I would want one to do for me to buy it, honestly. I suppose a less strenuous, less powerful but maybe bulkier rainbow lead would be good. Something like a Hathor Dragon (Sekhmet Dragon?) would be great, I would probably buy that. But short of that there's not much I want yet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 16, 2015, 07:51:01 PM
Clearly they'll finally address lmeta's glaring need for buffs by making Metatron Dragon.

;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 16, 2015, 08:33:44 PM
Nah, they'll just release a new 500k MP Dragon that has a weighted stat of zero, no awakenings, no active and no leader skill, but can be uvo'd by using all five MP dragons to become Literally God(tm)

Worst part is, since MP is technically a "free" currency, this would break zero laws, so they could actually do it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 16, 2015, 09:35:52 PM
Nah, they'll just release a new 500k MP Dragon that has a weighted stat of zero, no awakenings, no active and no leader skill, but can be uvo'd by using all five MP dragons to become Literally God(tm)

Worst part is, since MP is technically a "free" currency, this would break zero laws, so they could actually do it.

I think they could go to court over it though, and very feasibly lose since the primary source of MP is definitely REM mons if they tried

so i doubt they will
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 17, 2015, 02:34:53 AM
Explanations on the new coop awakenings (god boost, and wagging sanic finger). Hopefully there's even more than just those. Like if god boost really just boosts god types then there should be other type boosts too like devil/machine etc.

Only this.

Quote
Awoken Indra/Vritra because seriously

Super ult Amon/Baal, Awoken DevilLuci

Ults for the "fallen" GFEs like GZL, GGY, Avalon Drake, Apocalypse etc.

New MP Dragon series maybe (hopefully not pls no power creeperino)

they'll save this for the actual year-end stream
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 17, 2015, 03:29:07 AM
c9 needs to stop skyfalling just at the right time to kill me on defood

this is ridiculous horseshit how many times it has happened

edit: i get to Z8 and have miscalculated

zoog 8 does 30 over my max health with dragon king cannon

i'm done trying to murder a blue boss like that is a pain in my fucking keister, fuck blue man
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 17, 2015, 04:24:47 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/677342534859751424

Santa Claus Descended! w/ XMAS GungHo official stream on Christmas Day, 8:30 PM JST
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2015, 11:00:38 AM
>Awoken Tricolor Chinese getting Heart activation back

The game just became fun to play again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 17, 2015, 11:58:09 AM
Not only that, but awoken Greco-Romans just got on-color resistance in addition to light and dark, Awoken Astaroth got 1.5x instead of 1.3x, Horus got 1.5x RCV on skill use, and Parv/Lakshmi got damage boost on 4 hearts instead of 5.

I am pleased with this development.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2015, 01:47:15 PM
So those buffs are great, and I'm happy with them, but... Plz tiny Awoken Ra buff to help set him apart from dRAgon in some small way? I would be happy with just swapping out his orb enhance for another blind resist. Maybe a tiny HP boost for white devils. I know he deserves buffs less than most of the other awoken gods, but my sense of symmetry demands it.

Edit: The new awoken skills are weird. So Mecha-Hera's "god row" is actually God Killer, which gives her 3x ATK (just her, not anybody else on her team) against God type opponents. There are versions for other types too. That's a completely new mechanic, isn't it? Enemies having types I mean? I know every card has types, but this is the first time they've ever  een referenced for enemies. 3x ATK is alarming massive. I really hope this doesn't herald a PAD where every boss has 100mil health under the assumption that your whole team will have to have the appropriate type-killer awakenings.

Also there's a new stat boost awakening that gives a massive bonus (1.5x to everything) in coop dungeons. Again, hopefully the dungeons will not be built in such a way as to be impossible if your whole team isn't stacked with those. I'm not clear on what the point of this one is yet from a design standpoint. Will have to see some actual coop dungeon stats I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2015, 02:00:19 PM
Also there's a new stat boost awakening that gives a massive bonus (1.5x to everything) in coop dungeons. Again, hopefully the dungeons will not be built in such a way as to be impossible if your whole team isn't stacked with those. I'm not clear on what the point of this one is yet from a design standpoint. Will have to see some actual coop dungeon stats I guess.

I'm unsure if that's to the whole team or just to the card. I really want to think it's the latter because it's basically just a "Stat Awakening Deluxe".
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2015, 02:13:32 PM
My understanding was that again it's just the card. But the bonus is monstrously huge. It's the equivalent of a huge number of traditional stat boost awakenings (I don't have the time to do the math now, but something like 20 additional awakenings for some cards?). I know old stat boosts aren't really a metric we should be using any more since they're virtually/completely unsupported at this point, but that's a lot.

And part of it is that I just don't understand the design space behind that mechanic. Granted it's more functional than the old ones, which nearly didn't even do anything, but I can't see a ton of positive outcomes to this. I'm probably worrying for nothing, but it seems like it easily becomes "Applicable dungeons are impossible if you don't have enough but completely harmless if you do". I don't know.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2015, 02:33:31 PM
My understanding was that again it's just the card. But the bonus is monstrously huge. It's the equivalent of a huge number of traditional stat boost awakenings (I don't have the time to do the math now, but something like 20 additional awakenings for some cards?). I know old stat boosts aren't really a metric we should be using any more since they're virtually/completely unsupported at this point, but that's a lot.

And part of it is that I just don't understand the design space behind that mechanic. Granted it's more functional than the old ones, which nearly didn't even do anything, but I can't see a ton of positive outcomes to this. I'm probably worrying for nothing, but it seems like it easily becomes "Applicable dungeons are impossible if you don't have enough but completely harmless if you do". I don't know.

I guess the question is if it'll work with plus eggs. It looks like they very deliberately took it off Mecha-Hera because it would have granted her a whopping 2500 HP, 1000 ATK, and 150 RCV... and that's before any multipliers and if plus eggs don't count.

Lynsia looks like the real first to get it, and it would grant her 1670 HP, 849 ATK, and 180 RCV. Mind you, those are still pretty huge, but I wonder just how much she will be used.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
It just raises red flags is all. This kind of thibg in game design is usually called a "silver bullet" and it's usually used to solve some kind of problem. Like "Oops, we accidentally made Big Woodsie too strong and nobody can kill him, we can fix that by introducing a Woodsie Killer skill". In a collectible game like PAD silver bullets are usuay considered to be in poor form and an admission that designers aren't creative dnough to solve their problem any other way or careful enough to avoid painting themselves into corners that they need drastic measures to get out of.

So I guess what has me worried is that they're giving us the silver bullets before the problem. And that makes me reflexively think that there must be a huge, game-breaking problem in the pipeline for us to use our silver bullets on.

On another note, I just spent 110 stamina trying to get one fucking Dragon Fruit from Thursday Dungeon and I got zero. Seriously, what the fuck is happening this week? I can't get ANYTHING done because the game won't drop ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 17, 2015, 03:29:17 PM
lmao Rinshia is basically the RaDra+DKali yamaP was talking about

except she goes up to x225 with the coop awakening lmao

especially since she only need 5 atts + poison so you dont actually need all colors

so you stack 5 of her and then 1 light/water/fire and you got fun times comin
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2015, 03:29:50 PM
It just raises red flags is all. This kind of thibg in game design is usually called a "silver bullet" and it's usually used to solve some kind of problem. Like "Oops, we accidentally made Big Woodsie too strong and nobody can kill him, we can fix that by introducing a Woodsie Killer skill". In a collectible game like PAD silver bullets are usuay considered to be in poor form and an admission that designers aren't creative dnough to solve their problem any other way or careful enough to avoid painting themselves into corners that they need drastic measures to get out of.

So I guess what has me worried is that they're giving us the silver bullets before the problem. And that makes me reflexively think that there must be a huge, game-breaking problem in the pipeline for us to use our silver bullets on.

I'm thinking that as things look right now, it's some kind of incentive to use certain cards in co-op, but I guess we'll see if the silver bullet reasoning is really how it's going to go because the card itself that has it will be the newest boss - in co-op to boot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 17, 2015, 04:53:32 PM
Not only that, but awoken Greco-Romans just got on-color resistance in addition to light and dark

I wonder how this'll get applied to Venus and Hades (at least I hope they apply it to them), since they already resisted their own elements -- Venus halves light and water, while Hades halves dark and wood. If they just slap the other light/dark onto them, then Venus/Neptune and Hades/Ceres would resist the same things.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 17, 2015, 05:42:15 PM
lol the slayer abilities seem strong

until you fight sopdet with a god slayer on your team

then rip
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 17, 2015, 05:53:46 PM
Even more AHorus buffs?

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased that my main is getting buffed but... Are people complaining that much about him? He seriously isn't that weak.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2015, 06:07:12 PM
Even more AHorus buffs?

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased that my main is getting buffed but... Are people complaining that much about him? He seriously isn't that weak.

If I had to guess I'd say this might be a consequence of his original crappiness. Gungho wants people to want all of their REM gods. If people have a bad taste about Horus, even if it isn't valid anymore, they may feel they have to draw attention to him so that people will get excited about him.

I think it's a cool buff, I like it. And as far as I remember this is the first expansion of the "ATK boost the turn a skill is used" into other effects. There's a lot of design space there, this could be cool going forward.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 17, 2015, 06:08:21 PM
I think Awoken Horus was given the buff to match Kenshiro, who gave 1.5x RCV to physical/attacker unconditionally and had the same attack multipliers otherwise.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 17, 2015, 06:11:02 PM
Even more AHorus buffs?

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased that my main is getting buffed but... Are people complaining that much about him? He seriously isn't that weak.
no one uses him though so :V

although RCV boost is huge and it would be funny to see if this actually makes Horus better at Arena than aRa


(http://i.imgur.com/JwYQX7h.jpg)

fucking finally

60% SBR only worked 40% of the time, but RaDra is op enough to easily stall 5 turns on Hera-Is (as long as no skyfalls but blue blizzard actually helps by killing a color)

the real problem was of course Goemon, although theoretically I shouldn't ever die to him because I can infinitely restall DIza by knocking him to 1 HP every time

but of course in practice i get fucked by the dumbest shit so this took like 5 tries
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2015, 06:28:53 PM
And as far as I remember this is the first expansion of the "ATK boost the turn a skill is used" into other effects.

(http://i.imgur.com/WkWcNsV.png)

(School Athena buff also says hi)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2015, 06:50:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WkWcNsV.png)

Oh yeah.

(School Athena buff also says hi)

Pretty sure School Athena's not real. Pretty sure School Athena's just a myth.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 17, 2015, 06:51:51 PM
Oh yeah.

Pretty sure School Athena's not real. Pretty sure School Athena's just a myth.
Oi, Aoshi, boxshot for the nonbeliever would you?  = p
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 17, 2015, 08:32:56 PM
(http://imgur.com/FXnEKGI.jpg)

Rare Mythical creature sighting? Legendary "Greenthena" spotted with local MoTK resident. More details at 11.

For a tripledong, her RCV is surprisingly high. I'm impressed.

With the badpy from this challenge set, I got my Awoken Byakko #1 skillmaxed. I guess that's a hypermax with her +297?

I'm somewhat disappointed in myself for having so much + investment into mainly light and dark, when I -do- have nearly optimal teams in red and green as well.
Raoh/Belial/Awoken Leilan/Kiriko/Chiyome/Raoh is so powerful and has a ton of HP, but without +s I've got 1100? maybe RCV?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 17, 2015, 10:25:38 PM
That RCV is why I wanted her SO MUCH.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2015, 11:15:47 PM
Why the fuck didn't I use Gabriel the first time I did 5x4 Hera-Ur? Limited heart orbs, sure, but I don't care, I'm fucking Gabriel.

So, uh, needless to say, 5x4 Ur cleared. Sumire was not needed. No invade this time.

(http://imgur.com/FXnEKGI.jpg)

Rare Mythical creature sighting? Legendary "Greenthena" spotted with local MoTK resident. More details at 11.

For a tripledong, her RCV is surprisingly high. I'm impressed.

That doesn't prove anything. Anyone could simply use Photoshop to create a similar effect. See?

(http://i.imgur.com/DbRCwBg.jpg)

Flawless.

Don't be fooled, School Athena is as fictional as the Loch Ness Monster, the Jersey Devil, or the Insert Timely Reference To A Certain US Presidential "Candidate" Here.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 17, 2015, 11:44:45 PM
Greenthena is as much a myth as the existence of the juggler creep :V

let's forget for a moment that we're way beyond juggler in terms of power creep just so that the above sentence can make sense
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 17, 2015, 11:57:08 PM
Why the fuck didn't I use Gabriel the first time I did 5x4 Hera-Ur? Limited heart orbs, sure, but I don't care, I'm fucking Gabriel.

So, uh, needless to say, 5x4 Ur cleared. Sumire was not needed. No invade this time.

That doesn't prove anything. Anyone could simply use Photoshop to create a similar effect. See?

(http://i.imgur.com/DbRCwBg.jpg)

Flawless.

Don't be fooled, School Athena is as fictional as the Loch Ness Monster, the Jersey Devil, or the Insert Timely Reference To A Certain US Presidential "Candidate" Here.
Wrong background color in portrait, and didnt edit friendlist icon to match  but good effort.  6/10.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 18, 2015, 12:18:39 AM
I would spend an extremely unfortunate amount of money to get a sukusuku hakutaku card
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2015, 12:27:53 AM
After my money ran out I would start robbing people and spending their money. Especially if it was the disciplinary committee chair.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 18, 2015, 01:43:08 AM
After 90~ish runs, I finally got a present egg!

(http://i.imgur.com/jWJRsoQ.png)

You really don't want to farm this dungeon just for present eggs. I'm just trying to max-skill Santa Hera.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2015, 04:53:03 AM
these red buffs son

it truly is christmas
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2015, 06:20:03 AM
Isis buff *-* <3

Also Jesus Christ mech heras mats are you kidding me

For all that trouble she should have kept her all stats awakening
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 18, 2015, 06:27:27 AM
For all that trouble she should have kept her all stats awakening

worry about ulting her after we learn how hard her dungeon is, she's a 99 stam descend dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2015, 07:06:42 AM
Most skillup monsters no longer have to be evolved! Badass!

Venus and Hades do indeed now overlap with Ceres and Neptune in what they resist. Leaving Minverva as the only unique one.

There's an upcoming biweekly with an Awoken Minerva skillup. So we are finally starting to see skillups for the very first wave of awoken gods. Interesting.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2015, 07:23:18 AM
.............

(http://i.imgur.com/6fHiMnO.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 18, 2015, 08:26:39 AM
> fairies no longer need to be evolved to skill up heroes

i think my pandora team is going to be a thing sooner than expected

> horus gains +100 atk alongside that other buff

definitely not complaining, he still definitely doesn't need it

> awoken lakshmi is now a 2,5x-6,25x leader, and +700HP

> aminerva is now even more stupid

is this patch literally "hey LET'S BUFF ALL OF SACCHI'S TEAMS"

now they just need to find an excuse to buff vishnu and i'm set for life an year

would be nice if they actually gave wangren an uvo tho so I can make the red version of ccool's team
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 18, 2015, 08:47:07 AM
When you said that, I had thoughts of using Wangren on Raoh because the emperor dragons are really cool.

But I realized I'd be going from 4.5x to 4x...

-sigh-

At least Zaerog Infinity is a good dragon...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2015, 01:54:53 PM
Oh hey, got some stones for 550 days. I wasn't going to do any more Christmas pulls after Paulina, but fuck it.

-Paulina

Okay, reading that message loud and clear. Done with the Christmas REM. As good as she is her lack of RCV makes her not stackable, and I don't think I would want two of that active anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 18, 2015, 02:57:17 PM
(http://imgur.com/bDpnc14.jpg)

Beautiful. Not sure where I'm going to use her, but beautiful.

Awoken Kirin, Elia, Kanna, LZL/Supergirl, Awoken Susano?

It might work. Maybe. I feel bad for the people who skillmax multiple Kalis from Twinlits, because Kanna was annoying as is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2015, 03:01:38 PM
Of the three monsters with Five-Colored Alchemy I've skillmaxed, the last one was almost entirely via Piis. Skilling up with Twinlits is the worst. Well, not quite the worst, chasers/faeries/bowls WERE the worst, but still.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 18, 2015, 03:24:25 PM
I maintain that I call trifruit hell for a reason. Skilling up my Kalis wasn't so bad.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2015, 03:30:44 PM
The difference is that it's rarer for people need to skill up multiple things in a row with the same material in Trifruits. But regardless, too hardcore for me. I just skilled up my Norns with piis.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 18, 2015, 03:57:56 PM
I feel bad for the people who skillmax multiple Kalis from Twinlits, because Kanna was annoying as is.

Twinlits isn't as bad as Trifruits, especially if you need truckloads of Dub-mythliths like me, but it become annoying as hell when you drop 1 Angelit every 10 Devilit.....

P.S. I was reading the news about buffs and no more evo for skill-ups while at work..... one of my coworkers thought i was texting with some sexy friend of mine because of the idiot smile i had on  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2015, 04:30:58 PM
wait awoken minerva skillup?

welp we're finally getting non jewel awoken skillups i guess
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 18, 2015, 04:56:46 PM
rip every pii I used on my awokens
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on December 18, 2015, 04:57:38 PM
.............

(http://i.imgur.com/6fHiMnO.png)

That is how I got my *lvl 99* Nephthys food  :V in Int Difficulty
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on December 18, 2015, 05:37:38 PM
rip every pii I used on my awokens

Well, you probably used those Piis a long time ago.  If you got any usage out of them. I'd say it was worth it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2015, 06:26:18 PM
Oh yeah does anyone else here still play Monster Strike? :derp:

I started recently after getting a legit phone that could actually run the game.

Went 5/10 on 5* in my first 10 pulls :derp:

Nanami, Wukong, Lui Bei, Alice, Gulliver :derp: :derp: :derp:

Now I'm trying to farm a Max Luck Nicolas but the Christmas dungeon's difficulty spike is crazy...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 18, 2015, 06:30:16 PM
Pfffft.  Pretty sure you are most likely outta luck on that one.  I know I never hear it talked about on the IRC (from what I notice at least).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 18, 2015, 07:15:35 PM
So I was just looking through my box and noticed I have BOdin and Amenouzume now, what do you guys think of these two in an AHorus team? Amenouzume obviously in her R/B form.

I checked and it would have only slightly less health than my current team but buttloads more RCV and likely more damage, also a fallback for my greatest nemesis - binds. Plus it removes the useless morning star out of my team (although I would still very much like having an AYomi REM pls).

Also, to note, unless I'm understanding this wrong, Amenouzume active + future horus buff = x9 rcv for one turn. :V

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2015, 07:21:13 PM
Oh yeah does anyone else here still play Monster Strike? :derp:

I wouldn't say actively, but I still poke at it. If you need help or something you can probably hunt me down somewhere :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 18, 2015, 07:52:48 PM
BOdin is a stat stick at best. He's functionally weak but if you need a heavy hitter with great stats and skill boosts and rows, he's great. Just don't place him in place of actual utility.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 18, 2015, 08:21:45 PM
BOdin is a stat stick at best. He's functionally weak but if you need a heavy hitter with great stats and skill boosts and rows, he's great. Just don't place him in place of actual utility.

My other option is gigas, and I very rarely find myself using his active (since I end up needing to heal so much) so gigas is effectively just a glorified stat stick right now.

Of course, I have the option of exchanging Gigas with Ame No Uzume without exchanging chibi luci for BOdin, that makes me lose 2k HP though. Do you think it's worth it?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2015, 08:50:12 PM
Plus it removes the useless morning star out of my team (although I would still very much like having an AYomi REM pls).

Regarding the uselessmess of Morning Star, isn't it being buffed soon to shorter cooldown and make six hearts? Coupled with your new RCV multiplier that could be a legit stalling tool, albeit still a slow and weird one. And even with a buffed cooldown Lil' Luci's lack of skillboosts will make getting to it a bitch, but it certainly has way more utility now than it did before.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2015, 08:50:40 PM
Also, to note, unless I'm understanding this wrong, Amenouzume active + future horus buff = x9 rcv for one turn. :V

It'll work, but be mindful if you use any type/attribute enhance, it cannot stack with the RCV buff because her RCV buff actually counts as an attribute enhance... for Hearts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Calamity on December 19, 2015, 12:52:27 AM
Rolled Christmas Haku, the only China girl I already had. Golds are nice but what teams does she actually go on?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 19, 2015, 01:49:26 AM
Rolled Christmas Haku, the only China girl I already had. Golds are nice but what teams does she actually go on?

she's outright a better leader than D/R UVO Haku tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 19, 2015, 02:56:24 AM
Not as terrible as I thought it would be.

(http://i.imgur.com/M22I4vJ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/9jujo2N.png)

Bonus: Loki sees Alraune, tries to shoo her away. It backfires terribly.

(http://i.imgur.com/5CRCoEA.png)

Loki sees her coming back for Round 2. He wets himself like a loser.

(http://i.imgur.com/pKvOw58.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Calamity on December 19, 2015, 03:08:19 AM
she's outright a better leader than D/R UVO Haku tbh
I've never seen anyone actually use D/R Haku as leader tho lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 19, 2015, 03:09:48 AM
that's cause everyone outright assumed that the twinlit forms were better leaders because of the bonus awakenings

also because d/d haku is (or at least was) a godlike devil sub back when Ro Bu was actually OP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 19, 2015, 06:29:15 AM
I've never seen anyone actually use D/R Haku as leader tho lol

Well The XMAS Haku is D/R Haku with like, over quadruple the potential multiplier cap so IDK
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 19, 2015, 03:45:59 PM
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh skilling up Lumiel is such a hassle.

Also day 750 yay ( ・∇・)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 19, 2015, 04:55:52 PM
Been trying to do Yamato Rush again for the stone. Have to use I&I because nobody on the planet be me uses One True Husbando. With that setup I lose for sure if I get a Tengu first floor and a Fat Dragon second floor. That has happened to me twice in a row now today.

Fuck this game.

Edit: God dammit, 3rd run with Gabriel+Ryune was going great until I got to Goemon. Only needed to stay on him for like 8-10 turns, but he just alternated binding Gabriel and Ryune and attacking over and over and over. I think he bound them both three times each in the space of six turns for three turns each time. I'm not doing this any more right now. It's not fun to spend 45 minutes on a dungeon, get to the very end because you're playing well, and then have the game fuck with with the exact one-in-a-thousand scenario that it needs. He even needed to get a max damage Coin Throw to actually kill me the third time he bound my leaders, nothing else would have done it, so of course he got it. Fuck me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 19, 2015, 10:31:40 PM
oh look still no x10 descends

why am i not surprised
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 20, 2015, 12:55:53 AM
I just uh... noticed something.

The number of monsters in your average pantheon of gods:

(http://i.imgur.com/gi7LVW5.png)

25.

The number of monsters in the godfest exclusive series:

(http://i.imgur.com/ffWrTG6.png)

77. (Because for some reason Sylvie is duplicate on pdx's list.)

I mean, I knew it had gotten pretty excessive but... holy shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 20, 2015, 01:06:29 AM
I just uh... noticed something.

The number of monsters in your average pantheon of gods:

(http://i.imgur.com/gi7LVW5.png)

25.

The number of monsters in the godfest exclusive series:

(http://i.imgur.com/ffWrTG6.png)

77. (Because for some reason Sylvie is duplicate on pdx's list.)

I mean, I knew it had gotten pretty excessive but... holy shit.

Guan Yu/Zhuge Liang/Apocalypse don't count anymore, as a reminder.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 20, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
That's still 67 vs your average 25 though :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2015, 01:18:57 AM
You're also comparing all GFE to just one pantheon

A more apt comparison would like the number of pantheons vs the number of separate GFE pantheons
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 20, 2015, 01:25:00 AM
Idk if that's really more apt considering how they had to cut the godfest in multiple days to be able to fit in more pantheons and had to make sure not all GFEs appeared on every day just to equalize things.

I mean, the end result is a positive for us for the most part, yeah, but even so it's kinda crazy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 20, 2015, 03:43:51 AM
Idk if that's really more apt considering how they had to cut the godfest in multiple days to be able to fit in more pantheons and had to make sure not all GFEs appeared on every day just to equalize things.

I mean, the end result is a positive for us for the most part, yeah, but even so it's kinda crazy.

most pantheons are also you know, static on release

and gfe list has been growing since every new set is added to it so...

it's not really as weird when you consider how many total pantheon monsters you have?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 20, 2015, 05:41:13 PM
Hey ccool, there's another set of 7x6 challenge coming up with no megasatan at the beginning. Think Gabe fares better with this one?

The set starting tomorrow isn't what you're talking about here, is it? As far as I can tell those aren't 7x6, and they do have Satan at the beginning, just not MegaSatan.

As to whether Gabe can beat that one... I'm not sure. Depends on if I can kill Satan with Beyzul/Gabriel. I think I can, but I'd have to do some damage testing. And find some friend Gabriels. Hypermax shouldn't matter that much, but I'm not sure if any non-hyper ones exist because I've never really looked. If I can do that I think I'm good. Any other lead and I think I would die on Disco Hera before I could swap Beyzul back out.

That Challenge 10 looks unusually easy though, so I think Ra can do it if Gabriel can't.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 20, 2015, 05:56:37 PM
The set starting tomorrow isn't what you're talking about here, is it? As far as I can tell those aren't 7x6, and they do have Satan at the beginning, just not MegaSatan.

As to whether Gabe can beat that one... I'm not sure. Depends on if I can kill Satan with Beyzul/Gabriel. I think I can, but I'd have to do some damage testing. And find some friend Gabriels. Hypermax shouldn't matter that much, but I'm not sure if any non-hyper ones exist because I've never really looked. If I can do that I think I'm good. Any other lead and I think I would die on Disco Hera before I could swap Beyzul back out.

That Challenge 10 looks unusually easy though, so I think Ra can do it if Gabriel can't.

I have two skillmaxed Gabriels, though not hypermax, if it helps any. (^^

Facebook is filled with so much salt over 5x technicals.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 20, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
I have two skillmaxed Gabriels, though not hypermax, if it helps any. (^^

Facebook is filled with so much salt over 5x technicals.

That would be great. I think I could get by with that. Hopefully. Or at least do some testing and see if killing Satan is plausible at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 20, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
lmao mecha hera

50 million hp

hits for 40k a turn

Absorbs light and dark

HAVE FUN



lol that's not even the worst part, this dungeon also has pretty much every single gimmick thrown in

I'm not sure what team is supposed to be able to farm this

Welcome back power creep
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 20, 2015, 07:49:05 PM
The set starting tomorrow isn't what you're talking about here, is it? As far as I can tell those aren't 7x6, and they do have Satan at the beginning, just not MegaSatan.

As to whether Gabe can beat that one... I'm not sure. Depends on if I can kill Satan with Beyzul/Gabriel. I think I can, but I'd have to do some damage testing. And find some friend Gabriels. Hypermax shouldn't matter that much, but I'm not sure if any non-hyper ones exist because I've never really looked. If I can do that I think I'm good. Any other lead and I think I would die on Disco Hera before I could swap Beyzul back out.

That Challenge 10 looks unusually easy though, so I think Ra can do it if Gabriel can't.

No one knew it might be Ch7 until recently, would probably be better if it was, though.

EDIT: It seems that a lot of things in Co-Op got one additional floor if they were originally Legend Plus difficulty and had Catastrophe difficulty added.

All Rogue Dungeons - A floor with 3 PreDras somewhere that all hit 8000 each.

Ultimate God Rush - 10 Million HP Elia as the last floor.
Ultimate Hera Rush - 15 Million HP Zeus&Hera as the last floor.
Ultimate Devil Rush - 28 Million HP Grizal as the last floor.
Ultimate Dragon Rush - 9 Million HP Ilsix as the penultimate boss.
Ultimate Yamato Rush - 18 Million HP Ult Tengu as the last floor. Tengu removed as a possible spawn from wave 1.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 12:36:00 AM
all this crazy damage in coop means that if you want to solo you HAVE to have some kind of HP multiplier

so basically Alraune meta incoming :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 01:22:37 AM
Just had PAD's ingame mail censor "can use" as "c****e". I don't understand what it thinks it's censoring. Can use? Canuse? Is that close to a slur I don't know about or something?

Also FF, I'd like to borrow a Gabriel for Challenge 10 testing, one more Yamato Rush run a little later tonight, and maybe a Scarlet test run tomorrow if you have a slot available.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 21, 2015, 01:25:18 AM
Remove the front and last letters.

Gabriel has been in my first slot all day, and I'll keep him there until you say otherwise, yes? ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 01:29:53 AM
Just had PAD's ingame mail censor "can use" as "c****e". I don't understand what it thinks it's censoring. Can use? Canuse? Is that close to a slur I don't know about or something?

Also FF, I'd like to borrow a Gabriel for Challenge 10 testing, one more Yamato Rush run a little later tonight, and maybe a Scarlet test run tomorrow if you have a slot available.
It's censoring 'anus' lmao

yeah it's really really dumb and probably one of the strictest censors ever which is funny because pad is like the only online game where people dont swear at each other constantly


Oh yeah watching Mecha Hera runs, the dungeon itself isn't actually too ridiculous aside from floor 4 absorb...

and uh 47k DAMAGE PREEMPTIVE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 01:35:28 AM
Remove the front and last letters.

 :derp: ::)

Gabriel has been in my first slot all day, and I'll keep him there until you say otherwise, yes? ;)

Oh has he? I just looked and I didn't see him. Guess I missed him somehow.

Actually I don't see you at all on my friend select, so I guess it's just been too long (two hours, really? That's a gratuitously short timer) since you last logged in. I'll just keep an eye out then.

It's censoring 'anus' lmao

yeah it's really really dumb and probably one of the strictest censors ever which is funny because pad is like the only online game where people dont swear at each other constantly


Oh yeah watching Mecha Hera runs, the dungeon itself isn't actually too ridiculous aside from floor 4 absorb...

and uh 47k DAMAGE PREEMPTIVE

Don't team challenge teams have the total HP from both teams though? Assuming a normal team has ~24k with six members a team challenge team with ten members should be close to that. And ten slots gives you plenty of room for a shield.

I've been hoping this whole time that one bulky team memember+one DPS team member would work though, and it sounds like that might be a thing. Angel meta?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 01:44:21 AM
In coop you get a little bit less than x2 HP, because you and your friend only contribute 5 monsters each (and you 'share' your leaders with each other)

A typical hypermax radra team in coop seems to have 46k HP so should be survivable with Isis shield

BUT if you try to solo the dungeon IT IS NOT ANY EASIER so have fun trying to survive

also in coop rushes

"YOU CANNOT KILL EXTREME KING WITH ONE A.RA'S ACTIVE AS HE HAS 77782 HP NOW."

YEP THAT'S GUNGTROLL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 21, 2015, 01:47:39 AM
Doesn't that mean... You can kill him with five  chip HP damage?

Being rank 500+ probably isn't helping the friend list thing. I'll just try to keep logging in frequently, then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 21, 2015, 02:00:15 AM
So I just discovered F8 Lyncia has a pre-emptive awakening bind for 5 turns wth gungho

I actually have to use Freyr now gungho pls.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 02:01:15 AM
BUT if you try to solo the dungeon IT IS NOT ANY EASIER so have fun trying to survive

That's weird, didn't they explicitly say it would be?

Being rank 500+ probably isn't helping the friend list thing. I'll just try to keep logging in frequently, then.

Don't go too far out of your way, I'll just keep an eye out.

Turns out I won't be doing Yamato Rush again today after all because I haven't done Phantom Beast's Garden yet for the stone and didn't realize it had two levels, so I won't have the stamina. Do want to do damage tests though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 21, 2015, 02:05:01 AM
That's weird, didn't they explicitly say it would be?

no, they didn't say anything about specific changes for solo play.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 02:05:58 AM
That's weird, didn't they explicitly say it would be?
What they ended up doing is adding a new above Legend Plus difficulty which is designed for Coop but you can try it solo if you're crazy. And Mecha Hera is only available in this difficulty.


also Hera Mecha seems to have a 1000% gravity attack at 10% lmaoooo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 02:13:47 AM
So how do dungeon drops in coop work? Do both players get a copy of each drop?

Also, has Gungho said anything about when they'll be handing out the rewards for the ranking dungeon? I suppose I'm in no hurry, but it has been quite a while.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 02:23:49 AM
Dungeon stamina costs and rewards function the same way a single player dungeon does.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 21, 2015, 02:31:10 AM
What they ended up doing is adding a new above Legend Plus difficulty which is designed for Coop but you can try it solo if you're crazy. And Mecha Hera is only available in this difficulty.

this is incorrect, Mech Hera has her own difficulty class 壊滅級 which is "Catastrophic"

The difficulty you're referring to is 超絶地獄級 which is essentially a Super Legend Plus
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 02:36:36 AM
oops thats what i get for using google translate lol


Oh yeah the new leveling dungeon boss has the coop boost awakening, I wonder how well she'd do vs Mecha Hera

Also Mecha Slayer awakening would probably make that 40 million hp look not so great anymore lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 02:45:56 AM
Can Beyzul/Gabriel kill Satan in three turns?

(http://i.imgur.com/kqGi4ix.png)

2,736,932 damage.

So absolutely not in a million years.

Well shit. :(

Edit: I mean, Ryune or I&I could totally do it, so that's something. But I'm pretty sure they would both die quickly to Disco Hera. I'll probably try it with Ryune but I don't have high hopes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 21, 2015, 03:00:39 AM
Can Beyzul/Gabriel kill Satan in three turns?

(http://i.imgur.com/kqGi4ix.png)

2,736,932 damage.

So absolutely not in a million years.

Well shit. :(

Edit: I mean, Ryune or I&I could totally do it, so that's something. But I'm pretty sure they would both die quickly to Disco Hera. I'll probably try it with Ryune but I don't have high hopes.

Can't tank him out? His stats are normal here... and wouldn't double gabe have 80k health, so couldn't you whittle him down UNTIL Beyzul can sweep in for the KO?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 03:11:59 AM
Can't tank him out? His stats are normal here... and wouldn't double gabe have 80k health, so couldn't you whittle him down UNTIL Beyzul can sweep in for the KO?

I

didn't even think about that. I just assumed he did infinity damage, but his damage is actually really low. Yes, I can do that. Easily. Huh.

Assuming Zeus Olympios' God's Gaze is one-time use (which I think it is, right?) I should have no trouble at all clearing this with Gabriel. Stratios will probably take me a billion hours to kill, but I should be good to go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 03:16:39 AM
but stratios isnt even in the next c10

pdx says so but the official facebook says we should be getting set 18?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 03:31:18 AM
Oh okay? Well I don't know what the fuck is happening then, I'll just have to wait and see. I'm still relying on PDX for my information and they're not very accurate. I don't see Facebook stuff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 21, 2015, 03:34:43 AM
but stratios isnt even in the next c10

pdx says so but the official facebook says we should be getting set 18?

This is the 18th time a set of challenge dungeons has arrived in NA. 18th set =/= set 18.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 04:16:01 AM
18th set =/= set 18.
peopledontdiewhentheyarekilled.jpg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 21, 2015, 06:21:20 AM
Santa's stats have been released:

Light/Fire, God/Dragon
2828/1378/418
Light OE, Fire OE, SBR
AS: 1 turn haste + fire and light skyfall chance boosted for three turns (7 min cd)
LS: 2.5x HP/5x ATK when you have Rouge, Vert, and Blanc in your team

So basically he's Aamir all over again, but with a different niche this time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 21, 2015, 08:24:13 AM
Fire and Light Armored Dragon.

Figured it would be easy enough, so I go at it blind with Raoh.

Wave six is a preemptive gravity. RIP the 2.25x HP
Wave seven is a preemptive absorb fire for five turns.

:/ :/ :/ :/ :/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 01:28:25 PM
I was kind of hoping for more from Santa. Would have liked to have seen somwthing really special, like a white Zaerogoo. And I suppose he sort of is, just much weaker in every way  His leader skill is interesting but seems bad. The stats bonuses would have to be astronomical for that restriction to be worth it. On the plus side, he seems likely to get an ultimate evolution next year where he'll become more impressive.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 21, 2015, 05:02:34 PM
Mecha Hera needs 16 million exp rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on December 21, 2015, 07:01:29 PM
Summary of all of my Christmas rolls

-Lilith
-Alraune x2
-Archangel
-Paulina x3

Not bad, I guess? I kinda want red Liu though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 21, 2015, 07:18:29 PM
So Gabriel died on floor three of Challenge 10 to massive trolling. I went in with Beyzul/Gabriel, which has around 40k health. Hera-Is does 16k a turn. I had three hearts already on the board going in.

Turn one: Preemptive skillbind, fair enough since I only have 40% resistance. Combo away most of the board, no heart drops.

Turn two: Down to 24k, combo away most of the board. No heart drops.

Turn three: Down to 8k, combo away most of the board including the three hearts I already had, back up to 40k, no heart drops.

Turn four: Down to 24k, no heart drops.

Turn five: Down to 8k. Skill bind runs out after this turn, I have two heartmakers up that I can't use.

Turn six: Dead with eight hearts on the board from skyfalls the previous turn, but none of them linked up.

:/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 21, 2015, 08:03:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2gNyDqpl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/2gNyDqp.jpg)

Wheeee.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 21, 2015, 10:31:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6PZGvQ4.jpg)

This guy has stats.
I bought Star Vault because 5x technicals is trash and I didn't get the stone yet so why not.

Star Vault isn't bad when you're in a lull of 5x technicals, you know?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 21, 2015, 10:58:33 PM
Rising Dark

Dark Orb Power saving mode turned on
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 21, 2015, 11:44:35 PM
Rising Dark

Dark Orb Power saving mode turned on

"All dark orb matches will not trigger an attack this turn, all dark orb matches next turn will deal bonus damage equal to 40% of the total damage stored in the turn this ability was activated."
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 22, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
mfw I died to easy shit using leilan for bf points

(https://i.imgur.com/vMFTkg6.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 22, 2015, 03:15:47 AM
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa (https://www.facebook.com/notes/puzzle-dragons-north-america-gungho/zeus-vulcan-tournament-beta-rankings/1184984351530155?qid=6230915301820307985&mf_story_key=8935818687918308662&__mref=message)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 22, 2015, 03:30:57 AM
Hmm, yeah, that's... Mildly shameful. Better luck next time, Gungho. I mean, this kind of thing is semi-unavoidable, but this doesn't make you look fantastic.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 22, 2015, 04:01:33 AM
And I thought the whole "-5000 points if you clear a floor with active damage" that they imported from JP's last ranking dungeon would have discouraged that sort of thing.

Guess not! Maybe they should import the other restriction from that dungeon (
no active skills
).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 22, 2015, 04:12:31 AM
And I thought the whole "-5000 points if you clear a floor with active damage" that they imported from JP's last ranking dungeon would have discouraged that sort of thing.

Guess not! Maybe they should import the other restriction from that dungeon (
no active skills
).

If they want to be as fair as possible, they'll make it be with predetermined teams.

But we all know they won't do that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 22, 2015, 04:13:42 AM
They should have just made it more than 5000. Like if it was -10k then all the top scores would drop by another 20k which is much more reasonable.

The problem with no actives/awakenings is a ton of other teams like rows teams are totally screwed and basically only pure combo teams like Ra Dragon and like Anubis is viable, and even then it comes down to getting a lucky no orbtroll run
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 22, 2015, 04:36:12 AM
No awakenings murders pretty much every team nowadays that isn't a rainbow team.

No actives, however, is much more reasonable. Or if they don't want to do that but still want there to be a significant penalty for fast-clearing floors, make the penalty 15k points. I think a lot of people wouldn't be nearly as high then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 22, 2015, 04:51:22 AM
No actives, however, is much more reasonable.

not really no

it's even more rng than no awakenings tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 22, 2015, 05:05:49 AM
One more of the things people've complained about for NA rectified:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/puzzle-dragons-north-america-gungho/new-ultimate-evolution/1184538531574737?fref=nf

(tl;dc: AFreyr's live.  Go get him if you've a mind to and snagged a Surtr for him.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 22, 2015, 05:57:06 AM
not really no

it's even more rng than no awakenings tbh

I agree, but I'm not sure it isn't still the best fix we've got. I guess I prefer more RNG to the extreme consistency of whale teams that can just skip every floor. What it comes down to for me is just that PAD is too RNG-based for this to work no matter how they slice it, at least short of going very far outside the box. But denying teams that actually need ammo to work of their orb fixing seems harshly restrictive of what kinds of things are viable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 22, 2015, 06:36:54 AM
I agree, but I'm not sure it isn't still the best fix we've got. I guess I prefer more RNG to the extreme consistency of whale teams that can just skip every floor. What it comes down to for me is just that PAD is too RNG-based for this to work no matter how they slice it, at least short of going very far outside the box. But denying teams that actually need ammo to work of their orb fixing seems harshly restrictive of what kinds of things are viable.

essentially yes

challenge, especially rankings, was a bad idea, but gungho is very stubborn and won't admit this.

the best option hands down would be literally just doing this like actual challenge mode and having multiple pre-set teams for you to choose from

this would flat out put everyone on the same ground, eliminate shit like this, be viable as a method of 'advertising' cards generating revenue for gungho, and just overall be a smoother concept

it's not even hard because they've done this in DG already for challenges, and functionality already exists in the challenge app they're copying

it might require time and programming to do MULTIPLE teams, but overall it's such a better experience it's really stupid to not do and it's a much more simple solution to the problem because in the first place this was caused by us being able to make our own teams
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 22, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
it might require time and programming to do MULTIPLE teams, but overall it's such a better experience it's really stupid to not do and it's a much more simple solution to the problem because in the first place this was caused by us being able to make our own teams

The fact that they're thinking about handing out even better rewards for the top10 soon only emphasizes this. I think even if they only had time to make a new team/dungeon for it every like 3 months it would still be hype. It'd be one of those events everyone would looks forward to every now and then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 22, 2015, 10:04:00 PM
When one element becomes op all it takes is some absorbs to make the other elements better again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCOJamxG5pg) :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 23, 2015, 01:05:51 AM
Fun fact: Santa Claus has an attack in his dungeon called Chicken Barrel. I'm almost certain this is a reference to the KFC Party Barrel (http://www.fastcompany.com/3040263/its-not-christmas-in-japan-without-kfc), a Japanese Christmas tradition that is also the source of the name of Karaagetarou's excellent doujin comic strip series Touhou Party Barrel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 23, 2015, 01:39:58 AM
Fun fact: Santa Claus has an attack in his dungeon called Chicken Barrel. I'm almost certain this is a reference to the KFC Party Barrel (http://www.fastcompany.com/3040263/its-not-christmas-in-japan-without-kfc), a Japanese Christmas tradition that is also the source of the name of Karaagetarou's excellent doujin comic strip series Touhou Party Barrel.

So how does this kill you? Do the bones get stuck in your throat and you die? Is the ice cream so cold that your body freezes from the inside out? Do you asphyxiate on the salad?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 23, 2015, 01:40:43 AM
we should have a Christmas challenge

on christmas day, everyone get santa and the challenge is to beat c10 with him :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 23, 2015, 01:50:22 AM
So how does this kill you? Do the bones get stuck in your throat and you die? Is the ice cream so cold that your body freezes from the inside out? Do you asphyxiate on the salad?
"I ATE THE BONES!"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 23, 2015, 01:53:39 AM
So how does this kill you? Do the bones get stuck in your throat and you die? Is the ice cream so cold that your body freezes from the inside out? Do you asphyxiate on the salad?

The name is a reference to a beloved and tasty Christmas tradition, but that's just a name. The actual attack is that he blasts a bunch of chickens at you out of a (cannon) barrel. You know, some real classic Santa shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 23, 2015, 10:32:25 AM
So something I didn't recall is that Raoh is no ordinary heartbreaker, but he also breaks jammers and poison.

Which would have saved me from an Ark Impact IF I REMEMBERED WHAT RAOH'S ACTIVE DOES

oh well
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 23, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
No awakenings murders pretty much every team nowadays that isn't a rainbow team.

Shiva Dragon still murders no awakenings though

Quote
No actives, however, is much more reasonable. Or if they don't want to do that but still want there to be a significant penalty for fast-clearing floors, make the penalty 15k points. I think a lot of people wouldn't be nearly as high then.

Welcome back, D/L Anubis

Also did you even see Takeminakata Cup, that dungeon is an RNG bullshit because they throw in the Blue Bowl Dragon which preemptively changes one color to Jammers. So Ra Dragon teams need heavy RNG to make sure they can even activate on that floor, mono color teams are fucked if their color gets converted.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 23, 2015, 10:03:53 PM
Only c10 left. So far, no stoned all of these.

I mean, it's an easier set but still!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 24, 2015, 02:14:55 AM
Man this event pretty much feels like a non-event.

Previous events felt like holy shit so much to do with descends on top of challenge dungeons on top of stuff to farm

Now it's just like okay here's some easy piis and a new biweekly merry christmas
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2015, 02:59:27 AM
I don't know, the event descend (I'm assuming it's an event descend anyway, unless they decide to put Santa into the normal descend rotation) is cool. There's a higher-than-normal number of gift dungeons too. It's still a little on the slow side, sure, but it's got some neat stuff going for it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 24, 2015, 03:42:41 AM
Maybe it's just cause I'm playing monster strike at the same time and it feels like I constantly have stuff to run and farm while Pad ends up being like log in, run 1-2 challenge dungeons, done back to monster strike farming and suffering
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 24, 2015, 03:52:50 AM
Maybe it's just cause I'm playing monster strike at the same time and it feels like I constantly have stuff to run and farm while Pad ends up being like log in, run 1-2 challenge dungeons, done back to monster strike farming and suffering
This is me except on Granblue.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on December 24, 2015, 04:12:15 AM
Having just scraped by the last level of Jupiter, I make what will probably be my last roll...

-Siren

Ah, well, I already have Echidna, so I can make an all healer girls team!  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 24, 2015, 04:14:52 AM
okay so everyone knows that the auto target system is really dumb and you should manual target when you need it

EXCEPT THE MANUAL TARGET IS JUST AS RETARDED AND YOU WILL KEEP HITTING ABSORBS EVEN THOUGH YOU SPECIFICALLY TARGET THE OTHER MONSTER AND DONT MATCH ANY TPA OR 5 MATCHES


I just tried every targeting combination

NO MATTER WHAT YOU ATTACK THE FIRE ONE WITH FIRES WTF GUNGHO WTF IS WRONG WITH YOUR GAME


Died to Fagan in challenge mode

Ra Dragon is not cut out for this, his damage is too reliant on LS over awakenings

Maybe I should Hypermax Dmeta


oh wait right NO x10 DESCENDS THANKS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 24, 2015, 05:10:51 AM
okay so everyone knows that the auto target system is really dumb and you should manual target when you need it

EXCEPT THE MANUAL TARGET IS JUST AS RETARDED AND YOU WILL KEEP HITTING ABSORBS EVEN THOUGH YOU SPECIFICALLY TARGET THE OTHER MONSTER AND DONT MATCH ANY TPA OR 5 MATCHES

I generally don't do manual target in stages with monsters that have absorbs on one monster and no absorb on the other. Hitting absorbs happens to me when I do manual targetting more often than not
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 24, 2015, 07:51:18 AM
I tried no target and target each but nothing worked
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 24, 2015, 09:49:53 AM
I tried no target and target each but nothing worked

Uh, this is weird, i just OHKO the bosses of Light/Fire Mecha with A.Kirin and, despite not targeting, my 2 LKali focused on the one without Fire Absorb.....

And speaking of this, goddamnit but i suck at S-ranking.... failed both Light/Fire Mecha and Water Cat....  :X

This is me except on Granblue.

I've heard a lot about this game..... need to check it out (despite not understanding moonrunes :V )
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on December 24, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
I've always been curious, but is there any special incentive for trying to S-rank a dungeon? Couldn't find anything about this elsewhere.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on December 24, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
I've always been curious, but is there any special incentive for trying to S-rank a dungeon? Couldn't find anything about this elsewhere.

Free Tamadra.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 24, 2015, 01:28:37 PM
I tried no target and target each but nothing worked

Must be ordering of your subs then
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 24, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
There is no glitch happening here, smh...

The targeting system checks for lowest HP as well, and the Fire Mech has less HP than the Light Mech. Simple.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 24, 2015, 05:06:55 PM
There is no glitch happening here, smh...

The targeting system checks for lowest HP as well, and the Fire Mech has less HP than the Light Mech. Simple.
Okay this might be it then. Still kind of silly but if there's a reason then w/e

Now on the other hand

What reason is there for EU to suddenly have x10 descends but not us
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 24, 2015, 06:14:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Kyx9Azkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Kyx9Azk.jpg)

I should be happy that Minerva/Ronia works okay here but I'm not
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 24, 2015, 07:16:37 PM
double post

(http://i.imgur.com/mcXCbrDl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/mcXCbrD.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TS1rnubl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TS1rnub.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/b09qwQSl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/b09qwQS.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/kZldngbl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/kZldngb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VK5S1Fzl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/VK5S1Fz.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dake1F5l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dake1F5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 24, 2015, 11:03:59 PM
Wow never mind the 10x bullshit

PAD Mario has been updated today for North America, and the Time Attack (Hard) is now Hathor with Time Extends instead of Ra with no TE. RIP those brave souls that took time out of their lives to suffer for all of us in Burbank.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2015, 11:05:52 PM
double post

(http://i.imgur.com/mcXCbrDl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/mcXCbrD.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TS1rnubl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TS1rnub.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/b09qwQSl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/b09qwQS.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/kZldngbl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/kZldngb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VK5S1Fzl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/VK5S1Fz.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dake1F5l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dake1F5.jpg)

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Good start. Now hypermax her. Join the club.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 24, 2015, 11:49:33 PM
Hey jq, any plans to hypermax that Hermes? He actually seems like he might be a really solid Gabriel friend. Like REALLY solid. I think I like him more than Ryune as she is right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 25, 2015, 12:19:50 AM
Hey jq, any plans to hypermax that Hermes? He actually seems like he might be a really solid Gabriel friend. Like REALLY solid. I think I like him more than Ryune as she is right now.
Wasnt really far up in the pipeline(currently DMeta then SQ was my plan right now) but I could see myself switching him/SQ around if desired, sure.  Of course this requires me to not be lazy about plusses so I wouldnt hold your breath on that.  I can try though!

Mad respect for him for clearing half of the Mythicals for me, after all.

Out of curiousity, what is it that Hermes provides for you that Ryune doesn't do better?  Double Attack Stance proving more helpful than a BDH board with Haste 1 sounds crazy in type, but since I don't have the practice of using your Gabe enough to know how the two work in practice(and lack either Gabriel or Ryune to compare) I can't say on my own.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 25, 2015, 12:42:36 AM
Decided to play the new courses on Mario 3DS for a bit before I have to leave for xmas church.

(http://i.imgur.com/cg9sHHA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TyT3qnO.jpg)

rip appbank
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2015, 01:23:12 AM
Wasnt really far up in the pipeline(currently DMeta then SQ was my plan right now) but I could see myself switching him/SQ around if desired, sure.  Of course this requires me to not be lazy about plusses so I wouldnt hold your breath on that.  I can try though!

Mad respect for him for clearing half of the Mythicals for me, after all.

Don't push yourself if you weren't planning on doing that anyway, but if you do hypermax him I'd be happy to use him.

Out of curiousity, what is it that Hermes provides for you that Ryune doesn't do better?  Double Attack Stance proving more helpful than a BDH board with Haste 1 sounds crazy in type, but since I don't have the practice of using your Gabe enough to know how the two work in practice(and lack either Gabriel or Ryune to compare) I can't say on my own.

I'm not a fan of boarchange actives that create three types, really. Making a ton of blue and hearts is nice in theory, but it's too likely that I'll get too few blue orbs to be able to do rows. I prefer a reliable, predictable active most of the time than something that can fuck me with RNG. There are exceptions, like when I need to wipe the board clear of poison in Devil Rush or something, but they're rare. A double orbchange consistently gives me enough orbs to do two rows, a boardchange consistently does not. And haste rarely matters for this team because I tend to use my actives in a certain sequence when I know it's time to kill something, so usually I'm either using her when my other skills are off cooldown anyway or I'm ending the dungeon with her unused because she's not part of my big combo.

Two skillboost is also extremely valuable to me since lack of skillboosts is probably my team's single biggest flaw. Just one extra skillboost can make a huge difference on dungeons with countdown first floors, especially since Hermes' active has a significantly shorter cooldown than Ryune's. Three rows and one prong is much better for me than two rows and two prongs, although with the significant drawback of only x2 attack instead of x3. I don't know how the exact math on that works out, I'm guessing damage is in Ryune's favor by quite a bit, but outside of Gabriel/Gabriel setups my damage is usually enough to do anything I need to do once it comes around to burst time.

It's notable that Ryune doesn't have an ultimate yet and Hermes does, so once she gets her ultimate form I'm sure she'll be hands-down better, but that will probably be a very long time from now. In the meantime Hermes is slightly fast and much more consistent in exchange for being weaker and arguably lower-utility, but I'll totally take that most of the time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 25, 2015, 01:47:24 AM
/me takes notes

Indeed, noted.  I'm so used to boardchange usage myself I usually just deal with it if I get screwed over(and in my Hermes-led team now the biggest orbtroll I can get is fewer than 6 dark orbs from Karin given that a common thing for me to do when not in need of combos is to form two rows by using Karin->Hermes for a B/D board with B focus.)

Of course, I have only recently been revisiting Hermes as a leader, so I might be lacking in experimentation to know what's better to do yet.  I definitely like Gabe->Hermes for another burst option if I need to work when Karin's on cooldown(like this last Water Catdragon run where I tried Gabe and had to pop Karin to kill Mitsuki because I was swinging too low) though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2015, 03:06:23 AM
/me takes notes

Indeed, noted.  I'm so used to boardchange usage myself I usually just deal with it if I get screwed over(and in my Hermes-led team now the biggest orbtroll I can get is fewer than 6 dark orbs from Karin given that a common thing for me to do when not in need of combos is to form two rows by using Karin->Hermes for a B/D board with B focus.)

Of course, I have only recently been revisiting Hermes as a leader, so I might be lacking in experimentation to know what's better to do yet.  I definitely like Gabe->Hermes for another burst option if I need to work when Karin's on cooldown(like this last Water Catdragon run where I tried Gabe and had to pop Karin to kill Mitsuki because I was swinging too low) though.

Because my team uses Beyzul to burst and my full-power row burst uses a lot of actives, I can't usually just recover from it if I get a bag board from a boardchange. If I'm already committed to swapping into Beyzul, I need consistent results or I'll probably die. I can technically use board changes when I'm not lead swapped, but there's rarely a reason to. Sure I could recover if I got a bad board, but if that's the case I can probably just grind enemies down naturally too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 25, 2015, 03:13:22 AM
Yeah.  I understand your situation is very different from my own; I work with the consistency of "ok, I have good HP to take hits and not-horribad attack power to dish them out" in exchange for giving up the versatility your own setup provides for you where you can basically flip from tank to glass cannon depending on when you use Freezing Shift.

I feel like if I focused more on that I could probably do even more than I have, especially with AI&I being a thing(the power they allow for me is MONSTROUS in my testing so far holy crap), but with my main focus being Karin normally I haven't been giving Hermes and his setup(which to be fair uses almost all my Karin subs as well as the dragon girl herself) as much love as I ought to have.

Maybe this time talking with you here will get me to look more into adding him to my "regularly used" leaders again though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2015, 03:45:36 AM
I've been extremely impressed with the Awoken Norse so far. I think Hermes/Awoken I&I could be nuts. I'd still be hesitant to do Awoken Norse/Awoken Norse because I don't think their active is that stackable, but with a few low-cooldown orbchangers that might totally work too thanks to the haste. Maybe I'll try that with my Loki.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 25, 2015, 04:06:55 AM
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it


Also you dont use Ryune active if you want damage you use it to clear crap + heal

Or Ryune + Hermes for actual damage
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 25, 2015, 04:29:09 AM
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it

but suikama this is an anti-meta zone

in this land

the meta....


is always kiriko
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2015, 04:34:52 AM
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it


Also you dont use Ryune active if you want damage you use it to clear crap + heal

Or Ryune + Hermes for actual damage

Not for Gabriel. The stuff that she brings to the table just doesn't matter that much to him. The extra attack surprisingly doesn't matter that much, since on trash floors I only need slightly higher attack to save time, and for bursts I'm usually doing enough damage anyway that it's overkill. The main situation where I would care about her higher attack modifier is when I need to burst multiple floors consecutively, and to do that I would usually need to rely on her active, which I don't want to do. The most common thing I'm finding myself using Ryune's active as is a heartmaker, and it's slow and unreliable for that. There are certainly dungeons where I would prefer her, but most of the time I'd rather have Hermes.

The only times I prefer a lead other than a second Gabriel anyway are when I need consecutive bursts or when it doesn't matter either way and I'm just trying to clear the dungeon faster. It it's a consecutive burst situation, Ryune doesn't bring much to the table. For speed, sure, I guess she's probably better, but I don't farm very many things with Gabriel.

I guess "better in every single possible way" is a little bit interpretive. If by that you mean that Gabriel isn't S+++ top tier so I should never use him ever, sure, she's better than Hermes as a lead in a lot of ways and hypothetically I'm playing a different team anyway. But if we're talking about the situation I'm in, where I'm using husbando even though he's trash, I don't see her being more useful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on December 25, 2015, 04:50:06 AM
Isn't Ryune a better leader than Hermes in every single possible way

Like Awoken I&I/Ryune is literally in meta now, you can beat arena and stuff with it


Also you dont use Ryune active if you want damage you use it to clear crap + heal

Or Ryune + Hermes for actual damage

There's always Ryune/Hatsume. They should give ninjas more buffs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 25, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
welp it took me three hours to flatten all of NA gg

(http://i.imgur.com/o3PaoAm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YkbZwFR.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/MZ4kayI.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 25, 2015, 06:20:40 AM
The only relevant buff was Chiyome getting Devil typing...

so that she can fit on Raoh for that delicious 1.5x HP and 4.5x ATK.

Says something about NA's 3DS PAD community
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 25, 2015, 06:22:04 AM
Jesus Christ

No wonder you can beat everything with Alraune
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 25, 2015, 06:26:27 AM
Says something about NA's 3DS PAD community

To be fair, the version update is less than 16 hours old in North America or so. This is also the hardest score attack - the lower levels have significantly more participants. You can also opt to not publish your replay+score, so there's probably hidden badasses out there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 25, 2015, 06:27:35 AM
Rip alt coin dungeons forever
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 25, 2015, 08:34:59 AM
Rip alt coin dungeons forever

(http://i.imgur.com/M9eYdyr.png)

RIP Alt Coins indeed. Siegfried? WTF is he doing there?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 25, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
RIP me, messing around at 7:30 am is not the time to be trying a Mythical descend I guess.  Beat Santa on Legend though and got the drop.  Careful of the Twinlits on wave 3 you guys!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 25, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Z4nlj6i.png)

No Awakenings? lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2015, 02:15:01 PM
Merry Christmas to you too,  old man!

(http://i.imgur.com/GvIkuqm.jpg)

I notice that annoying black dog sells for five monsters points. Why is that? Is he a biweekly boss who got downgraded to rando status before we even saw him or something?

Anyway, back to bed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 25, 2015, 02:37:45 PM
Rofl JP got 7 stones and 7 Piis just for Santa no-stone

Holy fucking spoiled batman


Meanwhile we probably got the lousiest holiday event yet

Merry fuckin Christmas NA
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 25, 2015, 03:38:58 PM
Wtf why is new years Horus stronger than awoken horus
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 25, 2015, 04:15:36 PM
Clearly he's actually Christmas Horus.

He's 81x because he's attacking with the power of KFC.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 25, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
Fighting surprise Twinlits in Santa Claus.

"Oh nooooo there are so many heart and poison. Whatever shall Raoh do?"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 25, 2015, 06:20:34 PM
Honesty = New Year's cards are freaking adorable

Happiness = triple GF with 4x GFE  :toot:

Excitement = finally the Archdemons super uevos!

Awe = Amon..... the fuck did you eat?!?  :* You remind me of Shadow of the Colossus!

Confusion = never heard of Crows before  ???

Reality = i'll straight up skip the new year REM since not a single one is dark-main and go full blast on the Godfest  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 25, 2015, 06:23:30 PM
Rofl JP got 7 stones and 7 Piis just for Santa no-stone

Holy fucking spoiled batman

No lol, the guy died to kfc barrel and for some reason they decided to mulligan it with no penalty. That's the real spoil factor.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2015, 06:32:12 PM
Wow, New Year Medjed want.

Too bad Kaguya isn't much better.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 25, 2015, 07:09:47 PM
R/L takeru=

pants flying off any maximum velocity
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 25, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Super Amon's leader skill is crazytown. The type requirements are a little rough, but those stat bonuses are huge and his awakenings are great. Plus he's a healer, so I could honestly really see using him as a friend lead now too. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2015, 04:31:05 AM
Oh shit I fucked up. I just fed a stack of Acruxes to Machine Golem instead of Shedar. Whole day wasteeeeed!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 26, 2015, 07:39:37 AM
Wtf why is new years Horus stronger than awoken horus

higher multiplier but has shit for RCV

not sure i would call that absolutely stronger than a.horus who has an RCV bonus.

Super Amon's leader skill is crazytown. The type requirements are a little rough, but those stat bonuses are huge and his awakenings are great. Plus he's a healer, so I could honestly really see using him as a friend lead now too. Not bad at all.

Super Baal's LS is x16 with HP bonus to light attackers/devils, lol. RIP Superman
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 26, 2015, 07:57:02 AM
It's F/L Horus with a higher multiplier.

So uh, basically he's only better if you have the means to burst everything down super quickly without any hitches whatsoever.

Which will never happen unless your team is made of nothing but kalis and an Aisis.

And even then only on short dungeons.

It is definitely better than F/L Horus in everything though, even if the multiplier was the same, he'd still have the stat boost awakening to cover what is probably F/L horus's biggest weakness (AKA shit stats aside from ATK.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 26, 2015, 01:24:20 PM
Ok, i give up. Paradise of the Holy Beasts Challenge Mode is out of my ability/luck. 3rd time and again i didn't even reach Kouryu.
Even comboing like i've never done before and spamming actives like fresh water wasn't enough to save me from orbtroll.....

I'll attempt it again in 2 years, when i'll be able to field a leader with static 50x and RCV/HP boost  :X

(if anyone is wondering why i was attempting it at all, i had 100 stamina and 10k to rank up)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2015, 05:19:07 PM
I intended to take the time to clear Challenge 10, but I guess I'm kind of more interested in farming Shedar skillups right now. My white rows team is coming together. Skillmaxed Wukong, awoken evolved and skillmaxed Venus, working on re-evolving Apollo, and hopefully Shedar will be skillmax soon. Once Super Raphael comes out I should be good to go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 26, 2015, 05:44:18 PM
Ok, i give up. Paradise of the Holy Beasts Challenge Mode is out of my ability/luck. 3rd time and again i didn't even reach Kouryu.
Even comboing like i've never done before and spamming actives like fresh water wasn't enough to save me from orbtroll.....

I'll attempt it again in 2 years, when i'll be able to field a leader with static 50x and RCV/HP boost  :X

(if anyone is wondering why i was attempting it at all, i had 100 stamina and 10k to rank up)

Give it time. Eventually you'll think nothing of that dungeon. Consider it Baby's First Rush Dungeon. :p

I didn't actually clear it for the first time until May this year and I've been playing since late 2013, but the power creep has made huge leaps since then.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 26, 2015, 05:58:24 PM
I intended to take the time to clear Challenge 10, but I guess I'm kind of more interested in farming Shedar skillups right now. My white rows team is coming together. Skillmaxed Wukong, awoken evolved and skillmaxed Venus, working on re-evolving Apollo, and hopefully Shedar will be skillmax soon. Once Super Raphael comes out I should be good to go.

Wait a minute...oh god we have such good overlap.

(http://i.imgur.com/5YM311Bl.png) (http://imgur.com/5YM311B)

Edit: It seems I accidentally sold my Jord =\
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 26, 2015, 06:24:10 PM
No sign of the +297 Lucis I need for challenge 10; seems they like playing with beach Pandora more. So I guess let's focus on other things I should have done forever ago.

(http://i.imgur.com/yAH5vaIl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/yAH5vaI.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Z1YTNqhl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Z1YTNqh.jpg)

...

(http://i.imgur.com/9zDCpo7l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9zDCpo7.jpg)

This was clearly the correct decision.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 26, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
Give it time. Eventually you'll think nothing of that dungeon. Consider it Baby's First Rush Dungeon. :p

I didn't actually clear it for the first time until May this year and I've been playing since late 2013, but the power creep has made huge leaps since then.

What'd you use for Challenge Mode? Might need to clear it for the stone...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 26, 2015, 07:16:50 PM
Give it time. Eventually you'll think nothing of that dungeon. Consider it Baby's First Rush Dungeon. :p

I didn't actually clear it for the first time until May this year and I've been playing since late 2013, but the power creep has made huge leaps since then.
He's talking about it on CHALLENGE MODE :V

I can't beat it either. Koryu has way too much HP to deal with

unless you go in with a Dark leader I guess
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 26, 2015, 08:06:36 PM
Oh, I missed that. Yeah I haven't even bothered with challenge mode though I feel I could probably do it with AYomi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 26, 2015, 08:18:33 PM
I've tried aYomi before

It didnt work out so well
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 26, 2015, 08:21:06 PM
10x DESCENDS FINALLY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 26, 2015, 09:06:22 PM
I don't even know what I want to hypermax next after I finished my second white Kali. That leaves my Gabriel and Ra teams fully hypermax. Time to start on Eva stuff maybe? Or white rows even though it's not done yet? Maybe I'll just start hypermaxing Big Woodsies so I can feed them to real cards later.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 26, 2015, 09:28:57 PM
So our shy but good-hearted CM Michael has made a megapost accompanying the announcement of the event here on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/3ybptf/discuss_the_new_years_resolutions_event_and_the/). He addresses a lot of the concerns going on with recent rants, and even states that if you wish to make a reply, "I may not reply, but your feedback will be noted, and I will use it to report to Japan." This refers to the community report file he was to write up and send to them every so often to give them an idea of the state of our server, for what that's worth.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 26, 2015, 10:37:56 PM
Since Descends have a base 10% chance to drop plus eggs, this event means that all drops will have plusses, unless I'm mistaken.

In which case, I do believe it is finally time for me to go back to being a hardcore player of P&D, if only for this week. I may have considerable luck for Skillups, for the REM and for all things you can possibly imagine... But if there's one type of luck I'm definitely lacking, is +egg luck - which is the reason I decided to take the game much less seriously after a while.

So uh... Maybe expect me to have a much-more-plussed Vishnu and maybe a Kali once I'm done or something idk. The only problem here is that I can't stone simply because, assuming the Godfest in NA is the same as in EU, third day has japanese 1.0 and I still need a Yomi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on December 26, 2015, 11:09:06 PM
Christmas is almost over, you've done your job, Santa, time to join my army, and serve the Goddess of the Dead.

(http://i.imgur.com/GspHb2Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 27, 2015, 01:47:56 AM
Since Descends have a base 10% chance to drop plus eggs, this event means that all drops will have plusses, unless I'm mistaken.

Correct, that's why 10x descends is a huge deal because it basically trivializes plus egg acquisition

In the 6 months JP has had 10x descends I have made over 40 hypermaxes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 27, 2015, 06:21:39 AM
this is not pad related but i have to share somewhere

so i picked up divine gate again because of meguca collab and well

[00:50:11] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> also I found the secret to homucifer's ridiculousness
[00:50:23] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> match 3 dark panels only in each box
[00:50:44] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> her multiplier is low but she has a 1-panel skill
[00:50:54] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> so you can boost HANDS count to insane levels if you're fast
[00:51:30] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> so while she's not SUPER strong she hits hard like all punchpunchpunchpunchpunchpunchpunchpunchpunch
[00:51:55] <Chaore> homucifer confirmed for stand

"It is the pinnacle of all human emotion. More passionate than hope, much deeper than despair. It's love!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WflXo3woZs)

pls enjoy video
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 27, 2015, 10:05:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/AGKIQdb.jpg)

Get dunked
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 03:18:45 AM
oh god no

i looked up how to beat mecha hera with ra dragon

in order to do enough damage to one shot her...

you need........

you... need......

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1652)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 28, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
No Izanagi or anything by chance?  2x vs 2.5x, but...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 03:28:28 AM
I don't think so. Even with Muse active you only do barely enough damage to kill her. I saw with a 10 combo the total damage was like 45 mil.

Also I don't have Izanagi or Kanna either. :ohdear:

Still need Indra too oh boy


Found another vid where they use Muse + Gravity to ensure the kill, so other damage boosters would theoretically work.

Except Muse also covers B/G which you can't really do with other enhancers (and poor Isis can't fit on the team since you need to focus so many actives on beating Hera. You can't even fit more than 1 Kali)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 28, 2015, 04:31:19 AM
Couldn't you let your partner field the Muse and you can just do other things yourself?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2015, 05:09:07 AM
Except Muse also covers B/G which you can't really do with other enhancers (and poor Isis can't fit on the team since you need to focus so many actives on beating Hera. You can't even fit more than 1 Kali)

thats why it's so much easier to Ra Dragon it with a friend so you have more actives to use
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 05:19:01 AM
no one is gonna want to coop with me cause I still have no Indra ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 28, 2015, 05:28:27 AM
no one is gonna want to coop with me cause I still have no Indra ;-;
Bah, do you have at least like Kushi or Susano or something?  It's not the same as Indra but either is close enough, right?

Hopefully some people are nice enough to co-op even if you're not running some "super ultra optimized" team or some such...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on December 28, 2015, 05:37:28 AM
Hopefully some people are nice enough to co-op even if you're not running some "super ultra optimized" team or some such...

It really depends. Flat out, this is my biggest worry with co-op really.

You have to either go with friends or some guy who you don't know and might not trust with your stamina. And for a lot of us, I'll bet we don't really have friends with the same layouts as us.

For skmr, anyone who runs ra dragon is also prolly a whale so.........
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on December 28, 2015, 07:25:20 AM
It really depends. Flat out, this is my biggest worry with co-op really.

You have to either go with friends or some guy who you don't know and might not trust with your stamina. And for a lot of us, I'll bet we don't really have friends with the same layouts as us.

For skmr, anyone who runs ra dragon is also prolly a whale so.........

How I feel about co-op:
Great fun with a friend, just did 20stam Lyncia with him, wasn't too stressing because low stam cost and high hp makes it easier

Half stam made co-op much better, we have 13 stam alt dungeons and 20 stam legend dungeons now.  The existing difficulty can be solo'd and you can help newer players pull through some legends to get their first scarlet or something.

The new difficulties are not solo-able for most people but they don't offer much that makes people without co-op partners to be at a disadvantage except farmable angel demons.

Machine Hera is the most problematic issue here, hopefully she is an exception but I doubt it.

The upcoming challenge dungeon will be in co-op and I think we can really see if what they are doing with multi.
If it is as difficult as before, then I find multi to be a good idea because
1. Half stam; and
2. I can help some friends to get through lv8+
But if they made challenge harder, forcing people to co-op to clear them, then this will be very annoying for people without co-op partners and it'd suck alot.

But right now I'm liking what they're doing with multi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuYBqOd4kaI

so glad this stupid dungeon is half stamina. I have a belial and an amon to skillup
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 28, 2015, 10:47:18 AM
I don't think so. Even with Muse active you only do barely enough damage to kill her. I saw with a 10 combo the total damage was like 45 mil.

Also I don't have Izanagi or Kanna either. :ohdear:

Still need Indra too oh boy

*looks at his Muse AND Indra gathering dust in the box, shakes head at how much of a jackass the RNG in this game truly is*

As for the "perfect team for co-op".... yeah right, i can't even field 3 hypermaxed monsters, so i really won't care if your team isn't perfect  :V

Oh and Suikama, your reaction was as hilarious as Chirei's when Xmas Alraune came out  :D i really need to stop reading this thread while i'm at work, i look like someone with severe constipation trying to hold back the laughter....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 28, 2015, 11:05:28 AM
I may have considerable luck for Skillups, for the REM and for all things you can possibly imagine... But if there's one type of luck I'm definitely lacking, is +egg luck.

Case-in-point: I just spent 150 stamina on OoH in x1.5 drops and got a whopping 5 +s.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2015, 11:18:05 AM
Case-in-point: I just spent 150 stamina on OoH in x1.5 drops and got a whopping 5 +s.

No chance in availing of 10x Descends?

*looks at his Muse AND Indra gathering dust in the box, shakes head at how much of a jackass the RNG in this game truly is*

As for the "perfect team for co-op".... yeah right, i can't even field 3 hypermaxed monsters, so i really won't care if your team isn't perfect  :V

I'd be more than happy to coop with people here, except for the part I don't play on NA :persona:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 28, 2015, 11:23:49 AM
tfw you're 26k exp short of ranking up and using a stone would be wasteful

may just hit the extreme king tama for that rank up lol

Also what's the best +egg/stam dungeon again? It's kanetsugu or something right?

Also also lol I see u gungho and ur 4x GFE godfest

nice try motherfuckers not happenin even if I need the MP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 28, 2015, 12:01:53 PM
tfw you're 26k exp short of ranking up and using a stone would be wasteful

may just hit the extreme king tama for that rank up lol

Also what's the best +egg/stam dungeon again? It's kanetsugu or something right?

Also also lol I see u gungho and ur 4x GFE godfest

nice try motherfuckers not happenin even if I need the MP

I've been clearing coin dungeons likes crazy to rack up stones for the GF, and i'll probably buy a pack too  :V

Day 2 is really good for me: i miss all 3 of the dark pantheon featured AND there are both DKali and Satsuki. The only doubt i have is if i should do one yoloroll in Day 1 and 3....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 28, 2015, 12:46:29 PM
ugh I keep getting caught at exp levels where using a stone would be a waste but I need to wait hours for more stam it's making me squirm

Why is Zeus such bad exp rofl

Still, about 100 plus eggs down I think
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2015, 01:05:09 PM
Also what's the best +egg/stam dungeon again? It's kanetsugu or something right?

(1.5x/2.0x Hera-Sowilo) > Kanetsugu > Hera-Sowilo generally.

Deus Ex Machina is somewhere there too depend if you can farm it quickly, generally Shiva and Neptune Dragons accomplish this task fairly quickly.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 28, 2015, 01:12:45 PM
So are we supposed to run Zeus until one of the descends with better drops is up? Sounds like a plan.

I don't know that farming +eggs is a better use of my time than getting the last two Shedar skillups I need (depends on how rare this event ends up being I guess), but I'm going to do it anyway because bandwagon. Also I don't have a really efficient team to farm Armored Dragons since the red absorb keeps triggering when it shouldn't (although I did get lucky yesterday with Ra, somehow didn't trigger it, and got the S-rank finally).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2015, 01:29:16 PM
So are we supposed to run Zeus until one of the descends with better drops is up? Sounds like a plan.

Goemon in the coin dungeons is better IMO, since after enough runs the coins pay for itself and also you dont have to sell Masks
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 28, 2015, 02:04:46 PM
I don't really plan on turbofarming for +eggs any time soon, so that probably won't be necessary. Good to know though. i'm just going to run with most of my normal stamina for a while, just to compare and contrast with other methods.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 28, 2015, 02:59:01 PM
Goemon in the coin dungeons is better IMO, since after enough runs the coins pay for itself and also you dont have to sell Masks

Oh shit that counts? That's way better.

Edit: we have Hera-is as well. She's great exp and everything can drop. Is she worth running?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 28, 2015, 03:06:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dRfc3WJ.jpg)

Why were we excited about this again? This is trash. This is worse than 5x technicals. I have three +eggs from 100 stamina so far. Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 28, 2015, 03:06:49 PM
Oh shit that counts? That's way better.

Edit: we have Hera-is as well. She's great exp and everything can drop. Is she worth running?

Hera-Is is pretty good but only on x1.5/x2.0 drop rate. Not very good otherwise.

I'd ignore Hera-is for now until NA gets the coin dungeon drop rate bonus.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 28, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dRfc3WJ.jpg)

Why were we excited about this again? This is trash. This is worse than 5x technicals. I have three +eggs from 100 stamina so far. Am I doing something wrong?

You're running the wrong dungeon, goof. 10x descends, not technicals.

Do Zeus Descend in the Zeus Challenge.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 28, 2015, 03:40:53 PM
You're running the wrong dungeon, goof. 10x descends, not technicals.

Do Zeus Descend in the Zeus Challenge.

Oh, okay, thanks. I read "run Zeus" as "this applies to anything that used to be a descend, even if it got moved to technicals". Which I thought was weird. I haven't even looked at special dungeons yet so I didn't know there was a Zeus Challenge up. That being the case I guess my rates were half decent, weren't they?

Monday mornings. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 28, 2015, 03:45:38 PM
3 in 2 runs is pretty solid, yeah.

Now go get 4 every round. :p
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 04:03:55 PM
If you dont know what to run just use the 10x descends chart (http://imgur.com/S0qDzG3)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 28, 2015, 05:56:41 PM
84 pulls on the Gungho PEM, 8 golds:

3x mini LZL
3x Pianis
1x mini RGY
1x Arthur

If anyone was curious about gold rates. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 06:04:55 PM
uh yeah it's not worth unless you don't have mini DQ/SQ/LuBu yet, especially since you get so much more out of pulling exp pal instead


also +eggs +eggs +eggs +eggs +eggs
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 28, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
Well, now that I have at least one of Pianis and Arthur, I can go back to the enhance carnival with no regrets!

I kinda want to see how well Pianis would work as a leader, since two of her means four rows and ~44% reduction from non-water. Arthur might be neat too, but I think you'd have to run him as a mixed team (so something like twinlit Meimei/Nordis/GOdin/Verche?).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 06:48:33 PM
Arthur actually works in farming teams since he has a nuke active + reduces your HP to 1 for stuff like Virtra/Goemon/Dmeta etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 28, 2015, 06:53:57 PM
I'd be more than happy to coop with people here, except for the part I don't play on NA :persona:

Time to start and let us turbo rank you through co-op lol

EDIT: If anyone can beat it reliably, I got four drops from Zeus-Mercury if you're not one for speed and want some good rank EXP, I've seen one other person doing it as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 28, 2015, 07:12:49 PM
Yeah, I'll be farming Mercury. I don't care about speed and it gives great experience.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 28, 2015, 08:24:44 PM
I've been having a blast with Team Batman ever since I started taking him into descends.  He doesn't work for nearly everything like Bastet does, but it's just a lot of fun ducking and weaving, having to alternate between making sure I'm at full HP or less than half to do damage and swapping delays where necessary.  My current lineup's damage actives all work together really well (Pandora, Persephone, Goetia), and combined they tend to put me way over 12m damage in a burst.  Having Awoken Loki will only help matters, though I'd need to do some testing to see who he'd replace.

This team would kill for Eschamali when she comes out.  It needs on-type (phys/machine) orb changers, and she fits the niche perfectly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 28, 2015, 08:32:28 PM
I've been having a blast with Team Batman ever since I started taking him into descends.

are you... still using Zaerogoo as a partner for laughs and hilarious damage?

Fed Raoh +70~ today. Will be burning stones throughout the event and this should be beautiful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 28, 2015, 08:34:29 PM
are you... still using Zaerogoo as a partner for laughs and hilarious damage?

On occasion, but not for anything serious.  Their leaderskills aren't quite as compatible as I'd like.

Edit: Clearing out some coin dungeons while 10x is up, and I finally got a Chaos Blizzard Dragon. <_<  Hooray!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 28, 2015, 10:11:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YmavZ84.jpg)

Maybe I'll actually remember to evo this guy eventually now?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 10:56:49 PM
nah he sux

didnt even give me decent mp since he lost gfe status
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 28, 2015, 11:21:57 PM
nah he sux

didnt even give me decent mp since he lost gfe status

he's actually pretty solid now

huge hp and decent atk, unbindable, active clears poison and 1 turn of bind, also has a row and 2 skill boosts

and he's pretty much a perpetual 1/12.25/2.25 as long as your hp is >20% should you use him as a leader
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 28, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
you'll never find another ggy to pair with though :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 29, 2015, 12:22:44 AM
Why am i an idiot? I 0-stone dungeons and then when i have to do them again i forgot what team i used >_>

Zeus-Mercury = "Ok i'm pretty sure i used Verd team and tanked out the full bind of Kraken" ----> hello Apollo's full bind 2.0

Zeus-Vulcan = "Mmmh, i think i used Ronia with Baddie/Lilith to burst" ----> Siegfried kicked my ass

Mercury was cleared by bringing Echidna.... for Vulcan i fear my current pissed-off-because-of-stupidity state of mind will makes me use A.Kirin and give the finger to orbtroll
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2015, 12:26:12 AM
Why am i an idiot? I 0-stone dungeons and then when i have to do them again i forgot what team i used >_>
Me vs Wadatsumi
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 29, 2015, 12:29:44 AM
Bah, I know he's unpopular but he really is quite good.  If he's the only light card on my team I can bait light binds which could give me a great chance to blow stuff up, along with the whole "it's a pretty strong skill especially since a lot of dungeons have a poison generator here and there nowadays" thing.

The RCV is the only really bad thing and that can be changed from "bad" to "serviceable" with a bit of investment eventually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 29, 2015, 01:09:38 AM
Yeah, I'll be farming Mercury. I don't care about speed and it gives great experience.

and i thought I was masochistic.

zeus mercury is such a horrible dungeon in general to run; i'm not sure how can anyone farm it even disregarding time
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 29, 2015, 01:14:33 AM
Yeah I agree, that dungeon is simply too obnoxious to run.  I'll be doing Zeus classic unless something else I want is up
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2015, 01:15:38 AM
nah he sux

didnt even give me decent mp since he lost gfe status

says the ra drag user  ::)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2015, 01:34:58 AM
and i thought I was masochistic.

zeus mercury is such a horrible dungeon in general to run; i'm not sure how can anyone farm it even disregarding time

Nothing in it can really kill me , so the only drawback is that it's a little on the slow side. I'm not going to be pouring dozens of stones into this like some people are, so if I want to get as many +eggs as possible, this is the best way to do it. The only attacks in the entire dungeon to watch out for are Midgard, who gives me a ton of ammo and time to get Beyzul up, Apollo, who is red and at low HP by the time he's capable of doing any damage, and I guess Neptune if I let him get out of hand, but I have any number of different ways to deal with him. Hera-Is used to be a little bit of a problem, but Sleeping Beauty deals with her easily.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2015, 01:36:12 AM
speaking of ra dragon, farming Zeus merc with him isnt too bad :derp:

I hope the mystery descend is Deus Ex because I want some of that rank exp on top of my +eggs :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 29, 2015, 01:39:10 AM
speaking of ra dragon, farming Zeus merc with him isnt too bad :derp:

I hope the mystery descend is Deus Ex because I want some of that rank exp on top of my +eggs :V

i still find it amazing people are willing to farm on any dungeon with color-match/combo leads, i prefer to do that with unconditionals since its way easier :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2015, 01:43:37 AM
I'm only using natural stamina though so basically I only do 2-3 runs and then I'm done, unless I rank up

If I was stoning runs then yeah it would be tiring
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 29, 2015, 01:44:04 AM
Yeah, farming without a braindead team is agony.

But playing braindead teams on actual hard dungeons is boring, too. So I prefer to use more complexity there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2015, 02:02:16 AM
I don't mind farming with Ra, it's good practice.

That said I'm not using him for Mercury farming, I don't have an unbindable blue/green sub and I don't feel like stalling out all the preemptive binds. Gabriel farms it completely painlessly though. Just did a run and it really only took a little over ten minutes. Got five +eggs and way better experience. The Kali I'm working on right now is almost capped on RCV (despite having only +42 HP ::)), so I guess I gotta pick my next project soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 29, 2015, 02:05:14 AM
Also I hate how push button farming revolves around Rodin

Like oh yeah if you want to farm fast you need a card that's literally as rare as DKali and you need multiple of them

I already used up all my luck on DKali there's none left for you Rodin
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 29, 2015, 02:09:12 AM
Also I hate how push button farming revolves around Rodin

Like oh yeah if you want to farm fast you need a card that's literally as rare as DKali and you need multiple of them

I already used up all my luck on DKali there's none left for you Rodin

and yet I got 4 Rodins before my first DKali...

=/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 29, 2015, 02:13:37 AM
I'm saving my stones for the godfest since I still need Yomi, so I'm basically just using natural and rankup stamina to farm the shit out of Regular Zeus since it's the only descend I can reliably do.

Thankfully Vishnu wrecks that dungeon and he's almost as braindead as it gets so... :V

Oh yeah and...

(http://imgur.com/zDRXYIT.jpg)

This grill's a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 29, 2015, 02:28:21 AM
For those that can field something similar Verdandi - GZL - Marine Rider - Liu Bei - Echidna - Verdandi wrecks Mercury quite handily.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 29, 2015, 06:35:25 AM
I like using Zaerogoo on Mercury as most things are weak enough to be a non issue and I can just let natural skyfalls do all the work for me.

I should give Cloud a run. Pretty sure I could burst everything down in a turn??
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 29, 2015, 10:39:50 AM
For those that can field something similar Verdandi - GZL - Marine Rider - Liu Bei - Echidna - Verdandi wrecks Mercury quite handily.

I use skilled Thumbelina to just ignore Apollo, Bastet friend for a bit more damage. Still push 30k HP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 29, 2015, 10:51:17 AM
IN MORE NEWS NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT

(http://i.imgur.com/h9mwjyI.png) (http://i.imgur.com/yfxRwKx.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 29, 2015, 02:19:49 PM
hey, as someone who has a skillmaxed Belial in NA, seeing how cool he is is something i care about.

My Raoh team will be so loaded when Belial's ult hits. And I'll finally have 100% skillbind resist.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 29, 2015, 02:40:39 PM
My Raoh team will be so loaded when Belial's ult hits. And I'll finally have 100% skillbind resist.

raoh is so good and i am sad i did not whale for him
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2015, 03:02:26 PM
IN MORE NEWS NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT

(http://i.imgur.com/h9mwjyI.png) (http://i.imgur.com/yfxRwKx.png)

I'd be excited about that Amon if you were in NA and planning on leading with him. I'd have to try him to be sure, but I think he's going to be an amazing Gabriel friend. Maybe even optimal in some cases.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 29, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
Amon is exciting to a degree, a significant one and I will probably upgrade to his 8* form eventually, but it is a severe sticking point to me that he did not get his dark subattribute back.  Would have opened more teamcomp doors for me if so, but alas.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 29, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
raoh is so good and i am sad i did not whale for him

(http://imgur.com/eSGLhcp.jpg)

HE HITS SO UNREASONABLY HARD

though it's questionable that I'm using two colab golds on the team in terms of "how easy is this to get"

Man I remember leading this team with Yamato Takeru for less than half the HP and objectively lower attack multipliers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2015, 03:58:32 PM
Oof, never mind, Amon seems bad (as a lead). I forgot already that his leader skill is harshly type restricted. I was remembering it as buffs devils or blue, but it's actually devils or physical.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 29, 2015, 04:22:18 PM
That's not super limiting, considering blue's strongest type is Physical :p
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 29, 2015, 04:42:42 PM
I now have 4 figures and require a display case, half of them are pazudora.  (The other two are a Danbo and a Maou)

(http://i.imgur.com/WLBryCbl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/WLBryCb)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2015, 04:49:03 PM
Moogs: Only four figures? How'd you pull that off? Either you're very new to that hobby or your self control is much better than mine. I was going to say you don't need a case and that I have 20+ figures on display on shelves and that works fine, but... No it doesn't, dusting them sucks. Probably buy a case.

Mats: I guess how I feel about that depends on how many blue physicals have half-decent recovery. Amon's HP and RCV modifiers are solid, but they don't seem high enough to compensate for very low recovery or let you get by with just HP. I don't know, I've never been a big fan of physical as a team because I like having recovery, but maybe his modifier distrbution would let that work really well.

Regardless, he's weaker than I thought. I don't think there's much room for argument that type boost is worse than color boost for a rows lead.


Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 29, 2015, 04:56:50 PM
I'm buying a case cause I have a toddler, notice the takeover of the lower levels:

(http://i.imgur.com/18S8kL5l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/18S8kL5)

Edit: And vary rarely do I feel the need to own a figure.  Most of the time I just consider them clutter, but now my house is already a mess so w/e
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2015, 05:22:45 PM
Yeah, I don't know anything about toddlers, but my figure shelves are mounted high up to keep them out of easy reach of cats.

I wish I could just own a couple of figures, but my stupid brain likes to complete sets. I've got a set of all of the Touhou Figmas, all of the major Gainax robots, one character from every Gen Urobuchi property (except Gargantia because fuck that show, and Psycho Pass so far because virtually no merch was released for it). I've made the conscious decision to avoid PAD figures so far because I think I would end up buying like twenty of them. But if someone were to make a Gabriel statue... Or maybe a chibi Gabriel figure...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 29, 2015, 05:32:50 PM
Mats: I guess how I feel about that depends on how many blue physicals have half-decent recovery.

U&Y, Blodin, and Amon himself all have 500+ RCV, as does Snow White.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 29, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
U&Y, Blodin, and Amon himself all have 500+ RCV, as does Snow White.

Even excluding Blodin for his rarity, that's not bad. I didn't know U&Y was physical. They don't really fit the rows theme (I think? Or do they have a row?), but the others do, and if you're leading with double Amons you've got six rows automatically so having one sub that doesn't contribute is reasonable. Although Siegfried also doesn't have one.

Edit: Hatsume would be better than Siegfried though, so I guess that doesn't matter that much. Keep forgetting ninjas are devils.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 29, 2015, 06:47:55 PM
UmiYama do not have a row, which makes semse as they are a four color lead, but they do have one or two TPAs so they can contribute decent damage even without a row.  Their AS is also pretty legit.  R->B/H->G I wanna say?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 30, 2015, 02:06:52 AM
okay yeah farming Zeus mercury is getting tiring
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2015, 02:24:35 AM
Yeah, it's just a bit long, but the experience is so good. Which means more rankups so you can play it more, yay!

I just ranked up again from doing it, so I'm breaking to grab some keepers and shifting to white Zeus for a few runs to grab some gold masks. Had quite a few Mercury runs that gave six +eggs though, which is pretty fantastic.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 30, 2015, 04:18:58 AM
Yeah, it's just a bit long, but the experience is so good. Which means more rankups so you can play it more, yay!

I just ranked up again from doing it, so I'm breaking to grab some keepers and shifting to white Zeus for a few runs to grab some gold masks. Had quite a few Mercury runs that gave six +eggs though, which is pretty fantastic.

I've had one so far with 6, rest of the run have been 4/5.

Anyone get the legendary 7 run yet?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on December 30, 2015, 04:42:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/0dCYN1u.jpg)


na na na na na na na na
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2015, 05:42:20 AM
Progress:
Awoken I&I: +294 -> +297
Astaroth: 0 -> +297
Michael: +20something -> +297
Ceres: +100something -> wip
Freyja: 0 -> wip
Elize: 0-> wip
Kushi: tba
Xmas Alraune: tba

This is tedious shit. And I haven't even started with Blonia or Gabe orz


Edit: oh hey DXM incoming

(god I still wish she was actually good, what a waste of such beautiful art)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 30, 2015, 06:20:21 AM
You... went from 0 to 297 like twice in the time it took me to get like 60+eggs? Are you stoning?

(or are you just running something much more efficient than regular!zeus?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2015, 10:10:21 AM
I have no idea if this was actually worth doing, but I finally finished my second black Izanami with some of my recent snowglobes to make this weird thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/XeooJjG.jpg)

It's even more sturdy and has even less attack than normal Kalloween. I don't think that's necessarily a good thing, but it's a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2015, 11:52:24 AM
You... went from 0 to 297 like twice in the time it took me to get like 60+eggs? Are you stoning?

(or are you just running something much more efficient than regular!zeus?)

I'm stoning, yes. Had the stones I saved up after giving up on Xmas REM and some credit card rewards points handy, so I figured why not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 30, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
You... went from 0 to 297 like twice in the time it took me to get like 60+eggs? Are you stoning?

(or are you just running something much more efficient than regular!zeus?)

i finished a +297 fodder from +200~ and almost made an entirely 2nd +297 in one hour of super star vault which is slightly better than running zeus/goemon on 10x descend,

stoning for stamina makes it incredibly trivial to farm pluses
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: triangles on December 30, 2015, 03:31:14 PM
HEY KIDS

Maybe I'm going crazy, but I'm feeling like LMeta just isn't cutting it anymore (or I'm bad at puzzlemon either/or) but I'm so far out of the loop in theorycrafting and 2.5+ years of even non-IAP playing leads to a pretty nutso box.  Anyone who's turbo bored feel like taking a look at my box and giving me some pointers as to what team I can focus on and who should be most worthy of my plusses?  My gut is saying red/Leilan but I could be completely wrong, and then actually crafting a team welp.  Bonus points if any of you would want to be bffs with said shiny new team since I never used mine.

I put what I figure to be the really sexy stuff as high priority, but there might be some good stuff that slipped through. (https://www.padherder.com/user/triangles/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 30, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Don't have a lot of time to go in depth because work, but I see huge potential to run row Leilan (Minerva/ROdin/ASakuya/ASusano as subs perhaps?) or Awoken Sakuya (Awoken Susano, Awoken Tsukuyomi, Sun Quan or Sandalphon, LKali, DKali as subs, take your picks).

But I'm biased, because ASaku <3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2015, 04:14:28 PM
I see Horus, Set, and red Valkyrie in there, which is the required trio to do a badass Awoken Horus team based on my loose understanding of how those work.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 30, 2015, 04:17:43 PM
Today i finally decided to clear up my box of all those REM cards i'll likely never use..... ohhh, look at all that free space..... aww yeah, less mats to farm..... HOLY SHIT I REACHED 300K MP?!

I never thought i would be in the position to buy an MP monster so now i'm really unsure about what to do: should i buy YomiDra?

PRO
- i main Dark
- i already own some of his best subs
- he isn't as fugly as the other MP dragons......

CONS
- ........but he still is ugly as hell
- those subs aren't skilled up
- by the time i can legitimately tackle Arena with him i fear there will be "MP-only OP 2.0"
- i do main Dark, but especially Sephiroth/Levi. I might want to use those 300k for a different monster that fit with their teams (ie. BClaire, although with Okuni i already have Blue covered)

And i also plan to roll quite a bit on Day 2 of the GF so i hope to get some more Dark goodness.....

Do you think i should go for YomiDra? (If anyone want to check my padherder in the signature, it's up-to-date)

EDIT: @triangles after checking your padherder i have to agree with Matsuri, you have great subs for both A.Leilan and A.Sakuya. Sakuya is the obvious powerhouse but rows will always bash skulls, and with the new buff to the LS of Chinese Gods Leilan is even better than before.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 30, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
I put what I figure to be the really sexy stuff as high priority, but there might be some good stuff that slipped through. (https://www.padherder.com/user/triangles/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0)

Your box sucks. Gimme.

...

Okay, seriously, you have a dream Awoken Horus team right there. AHorus/Femme/LKali/AIsis/AYomi/AHorus.

Like, that's almost the exact composition I want to have, gfdi
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Oh shit, I just got two friend requests from Gabriels in the space of like an hour! Granted they're both low-ranked players with low-level, unskilled Gabriels, but hey, that's still much better than usual.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 30, 2015, 05:22:49 PM
I put what I figure to be the really sexy stuff as high priority, but there might be some good stuff that slipped through. (https://www.padherder.com/user/triangles/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0)

I see a Lakshmi team, that you can run with either TPAs or Rows depending on needs. Got a nasty combo shield on the boss? TPA it up.
Karin or Famiel
Snow White will make hearts off either board changer
Hatsume will create more water off either board change
Amon is suuuupes good for water rows
Awoken I&I has both doubledongs and double rows so have at it.
Isis does the bind clear thing.

Though tbh Snow White probably does everything Isis can do except also let you burst on Board Changes without popping two Lakshmi actives.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 30, 2015, 06:48:54 PM
theorycrafting

>Leilan
>Ares
>Femme
>Phoenix Rider
>Markab
>Susano
>Indra

yo come kill all the losers with me in co-op...

- ........but he still is ugly as hell

yomidra is a girl
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: triangles on December 30, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
So it looks like my first order of business is growing A. Kirin/A. Susano, welp this is gonna be a trek.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on December 30, 2015, 09:37:35 PM
I put what I figure to be the really sexy stuff as high priority, but there might be some good stuff that slipped through. (https://www.padherder.com/user/triangles/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,268435455,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0)

You have a lot of Light Rows in your box, I would love to see that achieving something :)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2015, 09:58:32 PM
You have a lot of Light Rows in your box, I would love to see that achieving something :)

Speaking of light rows, what is the standard lead setup for that team? Is there one? Is it Thor? I don't have Thor, but I do have most of the other stuff.  The team should be done in a few weeks I would think.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 30, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
yomidra is a girl

Not that i don't believe you, but i can't find anything in the artwork that clearly shows the gender.... and i mostly referred to YomiDra as male because in my mother language dragon is a male noun, so i usually default dragons as males  :V

Speaking of light rows, what is the standard lead setup for that team? Is there one? Is it Thor? I don't have Thor, but I do have most of the other stuff.  The team should be done in a few weeks I would think.

I read somewhere that A.Ama teams usually go light rows for burst with A.Venus, DQ, Raphael, Sandalphon and the likes....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on December 30, 2015, 10:43:57 PM
Speaking of light rows, what is the standard lead setup for that team? Is there one? Is it Thor? I don't have Thor, but I do have most of the other stuff.  The team should be done in a few weeks I would think.

There's the Thor/Saria. I've also seen Saria/Saria and Raph/Raph. Illm I think is pretty popular too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 30, 2015, 10:57:20 PM
I've been doing some testing with that Kalloween team with two Izanamis, and it's... Weird. The damage is a little better than I expected, but I guess that's probably partly because everything in Zeus Mercury except the big man himself is kind of squishy so it probably looks better than it is. The recovery is a little sketchy going from two hypermax Kali subs to two Izanamis with horrible recovery, but the damage reduction helps obviously, and one of my Izanamis is sans awakenings so I would normally have more autoheal. The biggest problem so far though has been lack of time extends. I didn't even think about that, but I only have two. Makes matching all of my colors and keeping up my combo count tricky.

What it comes down to is that it's just kind of pointless. It doesn't do much that Gabriel can't do already. It's a gimmick, which is natural since Kalloween as a lead is just a gimmick anyway, but it's not a terribly useful one I think. I'll find some use for those Izanamis, but I don't think it's this.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I keep forgetting to activate the Izanamis every time the shield goes down. That's going to take some getting used to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 30, 2015, 11:00:23 PM
Not that i don't believe you, but i can't find anything in the artwork that clearly shows the gender.... and i mostly referred to YomiDra as male because in my mother language dragon is a male noun, so i usually default dragons as males  :V

If it helps, the artist themselves confirmed the gender upon release.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 30, 2015, 11:20:50 PM
If it helps, the artist themselves confirmed the gender upon release.

Fair enough  ;) SHE is still ugly, no matter the gender....

Did the artist confirm Tsukuyomi's gender too?   :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 30, 2015, 11:41:21 PM
Did the artist confirm Tsukuyomi's gender too?   :3

D/L = male
D/D = female
Awoken = "stop asking me about Yomi's gender -- yes, even you YamaP"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 31, 2015, 06:32:11 AM
Awoken = "stop asking me about Yomi's gender -- yes, even you YamaP"

Translation: "I DON'T KNOW!"

:V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 31, 2015, 07:44:13 AM
Today i finally decided to clear up my box of all those REM cards i'll likely never use..... ohhh, look at all that free space..... aww yeah, less mats to farm..... HOLY SHIT I REACHED 300K MP?!

I never thought i would be in the position to buy an MP monster so now i'm really unsure about what to do: should i buy YomiDra?

(http://i.imgur.com/b3OSWbU.png)

buy yomidra

i say this as someone who already has shiva dragon and ra dragon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on December 31, 2015, 11:49:08 AM
Alright let's go COME TO ME INDRA

(http://i.imgur.com/wITJYhE.jpg)

.......

just kill me now :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 31, 2015, 12:54:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/eG5UckK.png)

1st page of +297. Here's to more of them in 2016.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on December 31, 2015, 02:35:45 PM
Congrats Trance! Jeez, some of the cards in that screenshot would make a lot of people paru (myself included  :D)

Suikama..... the game keeps giving you hints: just give up and come to the Dark Side  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 31, 2015, 02:38:22 PM
Remind me, x10 descends was not a one-time thing in Japan, right?

I remember them saying something that after the first time they decided it was far too good and weren't gonna do it anymore or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on December 31, 2015, 02:55:46 PM
Congrats Trance! Jeez, some of the cards in that screenshot would make a lot of people paru (myself included  :D)

thanks, but it didn't come cheap ROFL

Remind me, x10 descends was not a one-time thing in Japan, right?

We've had it for 6 months

Incidentally my last couple of hypermaxes came from the Super Star Vault (Star Thieves Den) since we don't get our 2nd round of 10x descends til next week
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2015, 03:30:31 PM
Hmm... Godfest, or save my stones to try to get New Year Medjed..? I have 18 stones right now and the collab silver thing historically doesn't go great for me, so I guess I'll split the difference and do some of each, thereby committing to nothing. So one pull today.

-Duplicate white Metatron (sold)
 
Huh. Yeah, I guess I would pay five stones for that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 31, 2015, 03:47:25 PM
I succumbed to temptation and rolled. I got 5000 MP in the form of a fire wizard...

That could have been 105 +eggs if I stoned for stamina five times. Ugh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Yeah, I'd be more inclined to stone for +eggs if I had a clear idea of what to do with them. I've just been collecting all of the excess from my second Kali (who only needs HP now but lol she needs a ton because RNG) in a big ball with no particular goal in mind.

I could hypermax out my Verdandi team, but I don't like it enough to do that and most members don't have much crossover use. Although Susano does, maybe I'll hyper him next. He's a solid Awoken Sakuya sub, right? I've been meaning to make her so I can compare and contrast with Ra. Is ASakuya/Kali/Kali/Susano/Sun Quan or ARa/ASakuya a thing?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 31, 2015, 04:36:46 PM
The first of those ASakuya teams is similar to something I want to do actually since a full Healer build is more than possible.

In my case it'd be more ASakuya/(insert unowned LKali here)/[Kushi or CAlraune or a golem]/(Elia when I get one)/SQ/[ASakuya friend] but close-ish.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on December 31, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
I suppose I could use Kushinada instead of Susano and go full healer, but I'm guessing I'll probably appreciate the bulk and I don't usually plan on my color filler doing much damage anyway so I'm not that worried about every single member of the team being a healer. I guess I don't really know the merits of which green shield active is better, but I know I like Susano's from experience.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 31, 2015, 07:22:08 PM
Oh, yeah, Susano is probably among the best possible choices for that slot, Healer or no; Id probably recommend him over the others unless you're only tanking HUGE hits(Kushi then) myself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 31, 2015, 07:41:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/AuDcJVI.png)

150% gravity, huh.

Seeing this along with Mecha Hera's *1000%* gravity, I wonder if they're trying to devalue resist latents or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on December 31, 2015, 08:24:48 PM
Maybe they're also targeting Awoken Chinese?  Though I guess if those were the targets it would need to be over 200% so...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 01, 2016, 03:29:45 AM
"Oh hey neat, Ex Machina has one of those 'virtually impossible if Beyzul is on your team because he only has one attribute' floors. Good thing it's only a 20% chance of appearing."

-Nebradisk

Yaaaaaay. :flamingv: Are you guys as glad as I am that there's a mechanic in this game this seemingly exists solely to nerf the oldest and most neglected cards? Pretty cool!

That's okay though, I got it on the next try.

(http://i.imgur.com/PvebG1S.png)

If I had to describe this dungeon in two words it would be "ballstastically annoying". Everything about it is so fucking annoying. It really tried my stall power and my patience. Didn't help that my phone did not like the pretty background and kept giving me crazy slowdown mid-combo. Almost made me fail to match hearts in an instant death scenario a few times, but not quite. I guess it's technically a great experience-to-+eggs ration for 10x descends, but yeah, I don't really want to do this again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 01, 2016, 04:22:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/4BdRvUP.jpg)

10 turn time reduction? Who gives a fuck.

5 turn damage reduction? POWER THROUGH EVERYTHING

Though it took two attacks to kill her >.>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2016, 04:24:18 AM
I can farm Deus Ex

but I die to regular zeus

tbf i tried verdandi and apparently triple wood tpas isnt enough to kill him even with GZL active + triple ameimei >__>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2016, 04:25:45 AM
"Oh hey neat, Ex Machina has one of those 'virtually impossible if Beyzul is on your team because he only has one attribute' floors. Good thing it's only a 20% chance of appearing."

-Nebradisk

Yaaaaaay. :flamingv: Are you guys as glad as I am that there's a mechanic in this game this seemingly exists solely to nerf the oldest and most neglected cards? Pretty cool!

That's okay though, I got it on the next try.

(http://i.imgur.com/PvebG1S.png)

If I had to describe this dungeon in two words it would be "ballstastically annoying". Everything about it is so fucking annoying. It really tried my stall power and my patience. Didn't help that my phone did not like the pretty background and kept giving me crazy slowdown mid-combo. Almost made me fail to match hearts in an instant death scenario a few times, but not quite. I guess it's technically a great experience-to-+eggs ration for 10x descends, but yeah, I don't really want to do this again.

This is more or less how I feel about it after beating it with Alraune. Absolutely not a tank-friendly dungeon. If you must farm it, use a spike leader.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 01, 2016, 04:30:54 AM
Spike is key for sure. Mythical was a snooze fest for AYomi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2016, 05:06:10 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR PULL GO

>Belail

eh he got a new ult i guess
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 01, 2016, 05:20:03 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR PULL GO

>Belail

eh he got a new ult i guess

prolly one of the best red subs


pulled new ye rem

medje

hap
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2016, 05:31:30 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR PULL GO

>Belail

eh he got a new ult i guess

Belial is a sick red row sub and his skillup is now in a biweekly that's a guaranteed drop (50/50 because same floor as Amon skillup) so it's not unreasonable to skill him anymore
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2016, 05:34:17 AM
HOLY FUCK I ROLLED LUCY IN MONSTER STRIKE

ITS BEEN FUN GUYS BUT FUCK PAD IT'S MONSTRIKE TIME
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2016, 06:00:18 AM
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/682763100953546753

yamap says he wants to lower the stamina refresh timer again in the first maintenance of the year.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: qMyon on January 01, 2016, 06:01:31 AM
Made a few Godfest rolls - In 5 rolls, picked up Hathor and Set. What kind of team can Set lead? TPK Fire or combo?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 01, 2016, 06:07:02 AM
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/682763100953546753

yamap says he wants to lower the stamina refresh timer again in the first maintenance of the year.
I'm guessing to 3 min per stam?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 01, 2016, 06:10:38 AM
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/682763100953546753

yamap says he wants to lower the stamina refresh timer again in the first maintenance of the year.

Christ, that almost seems like too much stamina. I don't think I could keep up with anything faster than we have now. Not that I'm complaining, free bonus is free bonus and I don't see a likely hidden catch anywhere, but that doesn't seem very necessary to me. The first time was extremely necessary, but I thought it struck a solid balance.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2016, 06:42:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkpZ5gxmDdk

OK, here is my speedfarm video for the New Years Dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 01, 2016, 08:12:21 AM
Hmmm... how good is Journey to the West as a dungeon for x10 descends? I still need Von McDouchenozzle Sha Wujing for my AKarin to be a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 01, 2016, 08:21:34 AM
Belial is a sick red row sub and his skillup is now in a biweekly that's a guaranteed drop (50/50 because same floor as Amon skillup) so it's not unreasonable to skill him anymore

I had him skillmaxed before he was cool. /hip

Well. 2016. May this year's TPAs be innumerable and rows be blazing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on January 01, 2016, 09:25:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/N42RKhP.jpg)

One down, 2 more to go.

Legend skill ups are really easy now because you can infinite loop rank ups since they're just 20 stam and gives 40k+ exp.
So it's only a matter of time and you never need to stone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 01, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/N42RKhP.jpg)

>CSL

you didnt tell me you were in town today Thaws!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 01, 2016, 10:59:50 AM
how rekt are you, find out below

(http://i.imgur.com/qDVPwTf.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 01, 2016, 11:18:38 AM
tbf i tried verdandi and apparently triple wood tpas isnt enough to kill him even with GZL active + triple ameimei >__>

...Meanwhile my Vishnu team can wreck him with GZL active + Triple TPA.

Granted, I have 3 Triple Prongers and only 1 Single Pronger but...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 01, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
how rekt are you, find out below

(http://i.imgur.com/qDVPwTf.jpg)

Wait, you're saying there's a way I can exchange sex for stones? Hey now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 01, 2016, 02:16:04 PM
You can go to hell Deus Ex, i'm done with you.

Your mythical version just joined the exclusive club of "Fucking annoying dungeons that made me waste hundreds of stamina i'll take great pleasure in wrecking when i'll have an hypermaxed team"

Back to farming Zeus Mercury.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 01, 2016, 02:41:59 PM
>Ur-Chimera

I dont need this crap right now, GH.  Go die.

Saving just in case I think of some stupid strat where it's useful, but seriously.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 01, 2016, 03:22:18 PM
I'm thinking of converting and feeding my L/G hypermax Kirin to Awoken Kirin, who is skill level 4, so I can get the skillmaxed and hypermax at the same time.

Shame Awoken Kirin is already max awoken.

Is there anything I should need L/G Kirin for?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 01, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
Oh god more challenge dungeons? But it's +egg time! I'm conflicted.

And speaking of conflicted, I may regret not respecting the New Year REM later, but I did another godfest pull.

-Sun Quan

Huh. I mean, that doesn't break my long-running streak of one-of golds, and I do love him, but I really can't think of a reason why I would need two. But selling Sun Quan would feel so weird...

Edit: Regarding Gabriel and Challenge 10-I know he can do it this time. I knew he could do it last time too but I died to orbtroll and was too frustrated to throw more stamina into it when I had better things to do, so I don't know that's going to get me anywhere, but it's extremely possible.

The main thing that's a little sketchy is all of the high-ish defenses on a lot of enemies. I'll be relying on Beyzul/Gabriel to burst, which already can't really one-shot much with the low modifier, and the abnormally high defenses on monsters that also have millions of HP are going to make estimating when it's safe to burst tricky. Add the fact that I'm not familiar with my damage numbers in 7x6 or with dual Gabriel into the mix and it becomes a real crapshoot. Definitely gotta try it, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to dedicate all of the stamina it will take to experiment properly and actually figure it out right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 01, 2016, 03:52:45 PM
(http://imgur.com/EmCnfGW.jpg)

Damn, he's so buff. The only bad things about him are that dark row and barely positive RCV.

Edit: if you all need to rush two more stones for a last godfest pull, Zeus Dios and Satan are in the coin shop.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 01, 2016, 11:16:34 PM
I just blasted over 110 stones at the GF (1 pack + 300 day bonus + stones saved skipping Christmas and New Year REM)....... damn, i am a whale, aren't i?
Targets: Satsuki (most wanted), Lu Bu, Persephone, Akechi, Dkali
Let the slaughter begin!

- Chiyome (not bad, usable on A.Shiva)
- Sadalmelik (meh)
- Sadalmelik (RGN goddammitt why do you always give me dupes back-to-back?!)
- Lu Bu (OH YEEEESSS!)
- Gamble Mage (it's dark..... but it's shit....)
- Gadius (uhhh... don't know if useful or bunch of mp)
- Sumire (dupe.... hello mp)
- Radious (....)
- Water Dragon Swordsman ( :colonveeplusalpha:)
- Lu Bu (.......ok GH, now you HAVE to give him the branch uevo)
- Persephone (HELL YEAH!!!)
- Liu Bei (dupe.... i guess Verd team will be happy)
- Ares (dupe..... mp)
- Neptune (dammitt RNG, if you have to give me not-featured gods, at least give me dark ones!)
- Amon (WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!?)
- Lakshmi (HOLY HELL RNG!!! And she is a dupe too!!)
- Kurone (when i saw silver i was ready to blow my top but i actually missed her..... now i can safely skip her REM without regrets)
- Apollo (ok)
- Claymore (go to hell....)
- Saria (3 different 5* GFE but no Satsuki  :qq:)
- Alrescha (i give up)
- Ivory Dragon (go die in a ditch)
- Sharon (dupe......)
- Hermes (ohhh good)
- Viper Orochi (mmh...)

In the end i got 2 of my main targets and 1 side bonus i didn't expect, not bad.

And now comes the sad realization that despite maining Dark i now have a TERRIFIC water box -__-
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on January 02, 2016, 02:01:15 AM

Seems the game wants me to play red. Forever no Hermes/Artemis.

Cao Cao
Genie
Urd(dupe)
Nim
Tsubaki
Satsuki
Chiyome
Yukimura
DQXQ(dupe)
I&I(dupe)
Nut

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 02, 2016, 02:12:43 AM
SB/SB2/Kapibara-san return hard confirmed along with the new monsters/ults/etc.

In case anyone here wanted to know that, that is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 02, 2016, 06:39:57 AM
Got my rushed last godfest pull.

Typhon????

I guess he can sub on Zaerogoo instead of Awoken Byakko, for the extra dragon stat boost.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 02, 2016, 07:01:10 AM
I guess he can sub on Zaerogoo instead of Awoken Byakko, for the extra dragon stat boost.

Awoken Haku is better because 3 colors vs 4 colors board change meant you will most likely have more dark orbs to play around with.

And also Typhon's RCV is bad enough that the dragon stat boost makes it still quite lower than A.Haku, and the boost in HP/ATK doesn't make it worth since Zaerogoo team RCV is typically shit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 02, 2016, 08:59:49 AM
rip double blodin dream. your sacrifice will not be in vain

(http://i.imgur.com/b8s8Ecp.png) (http://i.imgur.com/eVJkIK2.png) (http://i.imgur.com/k6D3Ogl.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 02, 2016, 09:03:27 AM
Seems the game wants me to play red. Forever no Hermes/Artemis.

Cao Cao
Genie
> Urd
Nim
Tsubaki
> Satsuki
Chiyome
Yukimura
DQXQ(dupe)
I&I(dupe)
Nut

And i have both Artemis and Hermes now.... i want a trade system so bad dammit  :qq: Even 1 monster per year would be fine.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 02, 2016, 11:09:01 AM
So today is the promised day where I spend 25 stones on one Godfest.

Pull 1: Antares. I have zero use for this pantheon.
Pull 2: Thuban dupe. MP.
Pull 3: Alrescha. Again, zero use for this pantheon.
Pull 4: Exa-Hydra. Sigh, MP.

At this point I was disheartened and was considering cutting my losses and use the last 6 stones for +egg farming, alas, I had already decided that I was putting the 25 stones on this one-armed bandit so...

(http://imgur.com/opuv7Sx.jpg)

Don't ever give up, people.

My AHorus team is now officially almost complete :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 02, 2016, 11:18:19 AM
Pull 2: Thuban dupe. MP.

give me that
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 02, 2016, 03:42:42 PM
Did a single pull since I'm right on track to finish my 10x journey today with stones remaining.

>Antares

Neato. I wanted all the others more, but they're all cool. (Spica and Alrescha mega cutes tho ;; )
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: hyorinryu on January 02, 2016, 04:40:27 PM
And i have both Artemis and Hermes now.... i want a trade system so bad dammit  :qq: Even 1 monster per year would be fine.....

Urd was a dupe too haha. I just forgot to mention it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 02, 2016, 06:53:39 PM
Did a single pull since I'm right on track to finish my 10x journey today with stones remaining.

>Antares

Neato. I wanted all the others more, but they're all cool. (Spica and Alrescha mega cutes tho ;; )

My local metagame seems to have become "Spica is adorable"-centric. Which is to say, two of my buddies are going to try to lead with her because of her art. I might join them just so that we finally have a lead in common. Probably not though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 02, 2016, 07:48:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/woYhddP.jpg)

It is complete, bar the levelups, ults, tamas, and Piis. (4 more woodpy needed.)

I bought a victory pull.

>dupe Blonia

Oh right. My water team is a thing too, isn't it. But do I really need two of her...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 02, 2016, 07:51:13 PM
Actually she's a pretty good sub for herself so yeah :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 02, 2016, 09:01:17 PM
New Years Part 2 announced.

-More Stones
-Kanetsugu, Sowilo, PADZ, AND Goemon in regular descend lineup, basically all the optimal stamina per plus dungeons.
-???????? on 1/8.
-Jewel Gift Dungeon

Pretty good, GH...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 02, 2016, 09:18:21 PM
>⑤ Taking Note of What?s Different

sup legelonte


Also oh my god 10x is being extended ahahahahahaha fuck me

(not really, I'm pretty burnt out on it at this point. I'll wait until next time to do more plus grinding.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 02, 2016, 10:49:44 PM
Well shit, here I was going to be done farming +eggs after tomorrow because Zeus Challenge is ending, and I was going to start the challenge dungeon after that. But I also want to try farming all of those upcoming descends, so I suppose I might as well start the challenge dungeon now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on January 02, 2016, 11:29:11 PM
So I've managed to avoid rolling the godfest so far because it didn't seem like there was anything I desperately needed. I wonder, though, if I should make at least one attempt for Susano...thoughts?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 03, 2016, 12:47:30 AM
IF the GFEs are of any interest to you as well, this is the time to roll because of the -4x- multiplier on them, which VERY seldom happens; if you want a better shot at Susano alone without regard to anything else, I think a normal JP1 Godfest is a better bet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 12:59:50 AM
You know, I think I'm just going to go nuts on this godfest with the last of my stones. There's some stuff up I wouldn't mind having, and it'll keep me from wasting them on more event REMs. I should be able to turn up enough to do a couple of pulls on the New Years REM for goofs, but this is probably a more efficient use. I have enough for three right now.

-Alrescha (Not bad, I almost never pull water stuff even though I main blue so I might want this some day)
-Fifth White Kali (Sold)
-Fourth Urd (Sold)

Not bad I guess.

Edit: I haven't pulled a silver from the REM in forever. I suppose some of that is removal of a lot of the chaff from the machine, but I've also been crazy lucky.

Just a few points away from 300,000 MP too. Not that I plan on using it any time soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 03, 2016, 01:07:47 AM
I'm surprised you don't want Neptune Dragon, really, for how much you run blue.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on January 03, 2016, 01:40:53 AM
Okay it's a super good godfest so surely one roll won't-

- Kakkab

why is this even in the machine what??!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 01:45:27 AM
I'm surprised you don't want Neptune Dragon, really, for how much you run blue.

I guess. Is he good? He seems okay to me, but I'm not a huge fan of that kind of leader skill. I'm probably undervaluing his recovery modifier and haste for allowing you to easily recharge orbchangers to keep ammo flowing, but he just doesn't inspire me particularly.

Okay it's a super good godfest so surely one roll won't-

- Kakkab

why is this even in the machine what??!

Hey, don't knock the cyber beasts, they're interesting. I don't know if he's necessarily an optimal sub on black prongs, but I'd like to try him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 03, 2016, 01:47:07 AM
It's actually not terrible.  Fitting pull for someone who calls themself a devil, right?  = D  (It's unbindable and needs no evolution which is nice, plus it's a reasonably fast dark orb converter with double TPAs so it can hit decently; only sticking point is its terrible RCV)

Sorry you didn't get anything you were after though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on January 03, 2016, 01:58:09 AM
It's not that I think it's bad, it's just that I already have one. And yeah, I'd have preferred pretty much anything else even if I didn't.

Well, I got Ilm on my other account so I can't be too mad.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 03, 2016, 02:04:41 AM
Challenge level 8 with Raoh was quite the fun time. Nukes Venus to death, as usual, then just barely let Theurgia live so she could "debuff" me with fire orb rates.

Proceeded to nuke Paulina and Armadel. If Noah lived and triggered her jammer attack, I was ready to use Raoh's skill. Same with Angelit poison, but fire orbs caused them all to die instantly???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 03, 2016, 02:16:37 AM
...welp, looks like I didn't make out much better, but I can probably find a use for her.

>Cinderella

OTL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 02:35:44 AM
...welp, looks like I didn't make out much better, but I can probably find a use for her.

>Cinderella

OTL

FAIRY TALE GIRLS ARE LIFE lately. I mean, she's no Sleeping Beauty or Red Hood, but she's still better than Metatron.

I'm... not sure how much I'm kidding there. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 03, 2016, 02:41:10 AM
Most likely heals for more HP, at the cost of a turn.  Comparable Atk to LMeta because of TPA shenanigans, lower RCV, higher HP by a bit.  One turn slower than LMeta but the hearts can be both offensive and defensive.

I'd say she's on-par at least.  That thought is horrifying, that a ult'd GFE is matched by an evo of a silver egg, but, well, LMeta's the ignored sister of the pair while all her needed buffs go to the already-powerful-enough DMeta.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 03, 2016, 03:06:12 AM
It is still the result of fairy tale girls being buffed. Unbindable helps the whole "cleric" thing a lot, and as long as you accept that their ATK (bar Thumbelina) isn't meant for attacking but you use their active skill for that instead...

I'll probably end up maxing out Red and Sleeping Beauty for Raoh and Zaerogoo respectively. The lack of bind clear on those teams is killer. :c
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 03:07:57 AM
Most likely heals for more HP, at the cost of a turn. 

It doesn't really cost a turn though, since you can still attack the turn you do it. The main downside is that it doesn't happen until after you attack so you can't boost yourself back over an HP threshold (like, say, Metatron's leader skill) before you attack, but that doesn't come up all the time. But yeah, it'll probably heal more. Metatron's heal just doesn't heal that much HP. I feel like it really, really needs to be percentage-based to hold up to a heartmaker. I know it's fast so they can't have it instantly healing too much of your team's HP, but it's just a tiny sliver on a reasonably bulky team.

Comparable Atk to LMeta because of TPA shenanigans, lower RCV, higher HP by a bit. 

Wait, seriously? Is there any math behind that?Her attack is comparable after TPAs? But it's so low. Christ.

One turn slower than LMeta but the hearts can be both offensive and defensive.

Yeah, more than a fair tradeoff in my opinion. And from experience with Snow White, even if you need to heal a lot of binds quickly this skill is still better because you can save some hearts for later to bind clear again with her heart row. Not until after you attack, granted, but it's super useful.

I'd say she's on-par at least.  That thought is horrifying, that a ult'd GFE is matched by an evo of a silver egg, but, well, LMeta's the ignored sister of the pair while all her needed buffs go to the already-powerful-enough DMeta.

Yeah... Yeah.

First super-uvo of a godfest exclusive please Gungho?

I'll probably end up maxing out Red and Sleeping Beauty for Raoh and Zaerogoo respectively. The lack of bind clear on those teams is killer. :c

Do iiiiiit! Let's try to complete a the set of hypermax fairy tale girls! Although I don't know who's going to be willing to hyper Thumbelina, her base HP just seems too low to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 03, 2016, 03:30:19 AM
Not QUITE as high as LMeta's damage at base Atk, but pretty darn close assuming the TPA.  She actually hits HARDER than Metatron at max though.

LMeta Atk, Lv 99, no plusses:  1330*1.25(4 orbs attacking) = 1662
+99 Atk:  1825*1.25 = 2281

Cinderella, Lv 99, no plusses:  802*1.25(4 orbs attacking)*1.5(TPA) = 1503.
+99 Atk:  2431
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 03, 2016, 05:02:32 AM
I guess. Is he good? He seems okay to me, but I'm not a huge fan of that kind of leader skill. I'm probably undervaluing his recovery modifier and haste for allowing you to easily recharge orbchangers to keep ammo flowing, but he just doesn't inspire me particularly.

He's good. Think of him as a super strong cross between Andromeda and Neptune. Ridiculous multiplier/row potential, and the 1.5x RCV is a godsend. Then again, you run Gabe, so you know how useful it is to be able to recover with high efficiency. Meanwhile, his active plows down high defense shit and would actually work quite nicely for wearing bosses down when you play stall. He's very solid.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 03, 2016, 05:07:17 AM
It's not that I think it's bad, it's just that I already have one. And yeah, I'd have preferred pretty much anything else even if I didn't.

kakkab system

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 05:43:10 AM
He's good. Think of him as a super strong cross between Andromeda and Neptune. Ridiculous multiplier/row potential, and the 1.5x RCV is a godsend. Then again, you run Gabe, so you know how useful it is to be able to recover with high efficiency. Meanwhile, his active plows down high defense shit and would actually work quite nicely for wearing bosses down when you play stall. He's very solid.

Huh. Yeah, makes sense. I never really considered buying him, but I can see why that might be good. I'll think on it some more I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 03, 2016, 10:36:56 AM
Welp, sometimes being stubborn as a mule pays off. Kinda....
I was still grumbling over Deus Ex mythical and in the end.... "Fuck it, i WILL clear you now, even if i have to waste a stone!"
0-stoned  :D

The reason i said that it kinda pays off? I got 5 drops, but NO WAY IN HELL i'm gonna feed her off after being such a pain in the ass to clear, because sooner or later she will become evo mat..... So basically i got the same +eggs of a Classic Zeus run  :V

Hey, don't knock the cyber beasts, they're interesting. I don't know if he's necessarily an optimal sub on black prongs, but I'd like to try him.
If we ever get AoT, there are literally only 3 fire-coverage subs for Levi: him, Batman+Disruptor, Demon Hadar >_>

And despite owning Hadar since forever and actually using him with Ronia, i only now noticed that he is a RIDICULOUS stat stick for a farmable!! O_O
Holy shit, his weighted stats are better than most AWOKEN GODS ffs! Even the new OP Awoken Archdemon Lucifer is barely 11 points higher than him!

On the matter of ccool's 300k choices, don't forget Charit?. Don't know if she'd fit in your team but that active is killer.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 03, 2016, 12:15:32 PM
And despite owning Hadar since forever and actually using him with Ronia, i only now noticed that he is a RIDICULOUS stat stick for a farmable!! O_O

Farmable dragons tend to be like that, dud actives, awakenings and leader skills.

To compensate, they are absolutely ridiculous statsticks.

Of course, the mechdragons are kind of an exception to the rule, their awakenings are okay for farmables and their actives aren't completely useless either.

Also I just noticed it's been forever and a half since Canopus and Hadar got uvos but none of the other three have seen them yet, y gungho.

@EDIT:

Oh my god.

Orbtrolled three times in a row against Journey to the West.

Hey, here's not enough orbs for an activation AND no hearts! (Death 1 against floor 2)

Hey, here's A COMPLETE LACK OF HEARTS WHATSOEVER AFTER THE 99% GRAVITY THAT STARTS FLOOR 2 (Death 2)

Hey, you managed to get through floor 2! (By lowering the difficulty from Mythical to Legend). Congrats! Now here's floor 3, where we know you did a simple 4 combo with three matches each color and managed to activate AHorus's x16, but more damage is always good right? So here's skyfalls to get you to TWELVE COMBO and an activation of x20,25!

Oh yeah, and now you die to Dick Mc Douchenozzle's 1% combo. Cause that's fun!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 03, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
Hi here !
I keep hearing about this game, wasn't interested first because "Meh, another Match3 F2P P2W game" but it seems that's absolutely not the case, and that the game is really good.
However, the description of the App in the AppStore says that the game take 36.6 MB of memory, which seems to be really really small.. I guess it's that same as Terra Battle, the App will download some data once launched right ? So, could anyone tell me how much memory it takes once everything is downloaded  ?

Thanks a lot !
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 03, 2016, 01:52:41 PM
Hi here !
I keep hearing about this game, wasn't interested first because "Meh, another Match3 F2P P2W game" but it seems that's absolutely not the case, and that the game is really good.

im pretty sure PAD is the first match-3 RPG that really broke out lol

also the game on my phone takes up 280mb of memory after data compression
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 03, 2016, 02:26:00 PM
also the game on my phone takes up 280mb of memory after data compression

Probably more akin to 500-600mb without it, I can't check rn.

Still though, although spending money definitely makes the game much easier, it is... surprisingly fair to Non-IAP players.

Source: I am non-IAP. So is Chirei and he's probably the best player we have.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 03, 2016, 02:38:59 PM
Source: I am non-IAP. So is Chirei and he's probably the best player we have.

I like to think I'm up there, but I'm probably the biggest spender on this whole board so I don't think my opinion weighs very much when the prevailing demographic is non-iap
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 03, 2016, 02:40:54 PM
I like to think I'm up there, but I'm probably the biggest spender on this whole board so I don't think my opinion weighs very much when the prevailing demographic is non-iap

You are indeed probably one of the better players we have as well (I'm certainly not up there at all lol) it's just that you're also the biggest spender here so using you as an example would've been kinda weird :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 03, 2016, 04:28:58 PM
Thanks !

I started to reroll, and got Avalon Drake on the second reroll. I saw he is a good monster to start with, but should I try to get a better one ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 03, 2016, 04:58:35 PM
Avalon Drake is strong and solid for a beginner. Just fill up your team with wood and have fun. He's also a good late game sub too since his active is strong and he's got decent awakenings.

I'd personally say to try to get something a little more risk/reward oriented (a combo count or color matching lead, which usually gives better damage multipliers), though. It's better to learn how to manipulate the board as early as possible before you get into any poor habits. That's just my opinion though, since I played a very "easy" lead when I started and I had a really hard time learning how to play more difficult styles later on. (And by "easy" I mean I had Lucifer, who let me just lazily cheese my way through early game and left me stranded on harder stuff. He's by no means a lightweight though, he just needs very specific team builds, a lot of patience, and a lot of planning later on-- consider it akin to playing a chess match where you have to be many moves ahead of your opponent. rdj522 mains him and has cleared a ton of super hard stuff with him!)

I suggest trying to get one of the Chinese gods, personally (Leilan, Karin, Meimei, Haku, or Sakuya). They're very good early on and stay solid all the way to endgame, and allow versatile team building and decent multipliers for a relatively easy activation. You'll not have any trouble finding good friends for them here, either, since at least one of us often uses at least one of them, completely maxed out (aka "hypermax"). Chirei has a hypermax Leilan, jq1790 has a hypermax Karin, I think Chaore has a hypermax Meimei, Yukarin has a hypermax Haku, and I have a hypermax Sakuya. Take your pick!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 05:11:02 PM
Thanks !

I started to reroll, and got Avalon Drake on the second reroll. I saw he is a good monster to start with, but should I try to get a better one ?

It's my opinion that rerolling isn't necessary, but if you do want to reroll that's not a bad place to start at all.

It's a tiny bit of a shame that you started today and not yesterday, since we just ended an event that made getting fairly rare monsters a lot easier and you may have been able to grab a couple, but I'm sure you'll be fine.

Edit: I just realized that Alrescha does have a direct current use for me after all. She lets me run a lock-immune Gabriel team. If I really need to be lock immune (which, to be fair, is rare to never since I can just stall out locks with no trouble) I can run Gabriel/Alrescha/Ruka/Sun Quan/Beyzul/Gabriel. Not much bind resistance and a critically low number of skillboosts, but hey, it would be an excuse to run Ruka again. No idea if this will ever actually come up, but it might be worth maxing Alrescha for just to know I have.

And if I did end up buying Neptune Dragon she would probably end up on that team for the same reason, since her lack of rows probably wouldn't matter much. NepDra/Reine/Gabe/Alrescha/Snow White/NepDra seems solid I think? Again kind of low on skillboosts and maybe not as bulky as it could be, but it's fairly resistant to most forms of disruption.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 03, 2016, 05:40:30 PM
Alrescha

Don't forget that she can also blow away jammers and poison, the latter of which could be fatal to gabe.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 06:03:37 PM
Don't forget that she can also blow away jammers and poison, the latter of which could be fatal to gabe.

Certainly. She adds a surprising amount of utility for an orbchanger.

Although it's pretty rare that I feel threatened by poison with Gabe. Because poison will avoid changing away hearts, I can usually more than keep pace with it. Where it potentially gets deadly is paired with a consistent source of normal damage, but that's rare. Or fullscreen poison. Alrescha would let Gabe farm Devil Rush. I'd be more worried about hypothetical Neptune Dragon getting poisoned since he'd be running fewer heartmakers and needs orbs more, but the damage isn't so high that it's usually more than an annoyance for a team with a recovery modifier.

I just combed back over my box, and I have enough MP sitting around in duplicate pantheon gods, elementals, duplicate event silver, and chibis that I could get up to 300,000 right now without even really losing anything (and while regaining some box real-estate to boot). I'm not necessarily going to do that, but I'm going to weigh my options. I'll play pros and cons later.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 03, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
Because poison will avoid changing away hearts

There are some instances of non-fullboard poison being able to change away hearts - so be mindful of this later.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 07:25:15 PM
There are some instances of non-fullboard poison being able to change away hearts - so be mindful of this later.

Oh yeah? Which ones? Via what mechanics?That's interesting.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 03, 2016, 07:48:34 PM
I did not even remember that poison avoided hearts at all, which is an interesting point I will need to keep in mind for the future I think.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 03, 2016, 11:11:06 PM
Oh yeah? Which ones? Via what mechanics?That's interesting.

I don't remember exactly which enemies do it, but I do know for sure that it's good not to let your guard down and assume hearts are always safe from poison.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 03, 2016, 11:49:56 PM
Alright, this is what I think of Neptune Dragon. Let me know if I'm way off-base on any of this or if you have any further input, opinions, or advice.

Pros:
-Seems pretty strong. A 36x rows lead with four rows should hit like a truck.
-Recovery modifier is higher than some of my current Gabriel teams (2.25x with NepDra/NepDra vs. 2x with Gabriel/Ryune).
-Leader skill is flexible, so with the right testing he should be able to hit even through damage shields.
-Best art of any of the MP dragons by far.
-High natural HP, which is especially handy given that he has no HP modifier.
-Strongest poison in the game (?).
-Poison is not usually a very stackable skill, but the added haste means it will always pull a lot of weight even if nothing in the dungeon cares about it.
-Skill lock resist means it's very plausible to get 100% resistance.
-Most of the subs I would use for him are already hypermax.
-Has sub potential as well as lead potential thanks to his great awakenings and niche skill.
-The way his leader skill works makes getting three rows and also maxing out his modifier impossible, which means I'm not obligated to try to set up tricky triple row boards. Seems easy to play.
-His team (or at least the team I'm considering) seems resilient to most forms of disruption.

Cons:
-Seems pretty orb-hungry. Might be hard to keep up consistent damage without constantly using skills.
-Might struggle with combo shields.
-Only one skillboost and a long minimum cooldown means his teams will probably be fairly slow.
-Annoying dark row in his awakenings is basically just a trick to make him look like he has more awakenings than he actually does.
-Need for a lot of orbchangers to fuel his leader skill coupled with the fact that he doesn't orbchange himself means limited room for utility actives like delays, shields, or even damage boosts.
-Low natural recovery.
-Seems obvious, but he's expensive. If I buy him I'll be completely cleaned out on monster points, so Gungho will inevitably announce something else I'd rather have right away and I won't be able to afford it for a long time.
-Seems potentially extremely vulnerable to skill delay, which is the hardest status to build against anyway (unless you're loaded).
-Doesn't seem very efficient for ranking dungeons like no skills or no awakenings, since he relies on skills to fuel his leader skill modifier.


I don't watch much PAD gameplay, so I haven't ever seen anyone play him, and I don't keep up with high-tier teams, so for anyone who does: Can Neptune Dragon clear very hard content? Should I expect to be able to clear Challenge 10 or maybe even Arena with him? And if so do I need an extremely specific team to do it? I know I should expect his damage to be high, but I don't really know how high.

I don't remember exactly which enemies do it, but I do know for sure that it's good not to let your guard down and assume hearts are always safe from poison.

Huh. That's ominous. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 03, 2016, 11:56:37 PM
Neptune Dragon is like just under Ra/Yomi in terms of Arena viability


I think the main thing that hold him back might actually be lack of bind immunity which Ra/Yomi have
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 03, 2016, 11:58:50 PM
Consider this. Zaerogoo, with only twelve dark orbs and x36, hits for multi million damage. Sure, there are orb enhances kicking in, but still.

Neptune-dora, with even a singular row of orbs, provided you hit x36? And with all the rows that you have already? You probably don't even need to make two rows to kill most things. Maaaybe some spare change and combos will be all you need.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 04, 2016, 01:05:43 AM
Still rerolling here :( maybe one or two more, and I'll go to sleep (it's 2:00 am here..)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 04, 2016, 02:40:29 AM
re: poison converting hearts away -- I haven't noticed any direct trends, but here's what I've got off the top of my head:

-- Beelzebub (outside of fullboards) will not
-- Orchid will (I'm assuming this is because No RCV dungeon)
-- Beach Awilda will (not sure here, but the tooltip for her skill says "spawn" instead of Beelzebub's "convert")
-- Black Baron (in Hera-Sowilo) will not
-- DIzanami will not
-- Sherospada (in Deus ex Machina) will (because it's a column change and doesn't care)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 04, 2016, 03:22:20 AM
What's the required HP threshhold for Ultimate Arena? The Neptune Dragon team I was considering (Dagon/Reine/Gabe/Snow White/Alrescha/Dagon) has 25,821 hypermax but without latents. Would that be enough?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2016, 03:30:00 AM
The main things are you need some way to survive DQHera's 38k preemptive and Parvati's 30k low HP attack (although you can just kill her with neptune dragon before she does that attack since you have much better damage control than ra dragon)

So you either need a shield, or stack dark latents. But even with 30 dark resist latents you still need about 27k hp to survive that that team wouldn't work

Or just pray for no spawn
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 04, 2016, 04:18:38 AM
Christ, yeah, 38k is completely undoable. Does monoblue even have a significant shield other than the blue golem? I can't think of one, but maybe there's an obvious one I'm missing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 04, 2016, 04:28:41 AM
Awilda is 35% reduction for 1 turn at 5 cd(also a 20x attack on one enemy but who cares).  Decent stats(4070/1940/557 at +297), but with only a single OE and SB as Awakenings.

Summer Awilda meanwhile is 4073/2343/356 at +297 and has 5 OE and 4 water resists with the same skill as her normal farmable form.

Other than that? Nothing for NA, no.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 04, 2016, 04:44:54 AM
Can't think of any leader swaps that would fit on the team, either. Neither Tengu nor stone dragons are really suitable.

Light Izanami?

Also.

(http://imgur.com/zJY1X2y.jpg)
Hey. Been a while since we've been at each other's throats like this.
Remember when you used to sit in Legendary Earth, and nobody cared about you? We've both come a long way, huh?

(http://i.imgur.com/use1Cez.jpg)
Arigato, Zaerogoo. Give me that Py.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 04, 2016, 04:59:20 AM
Awilda is 35% reduction for 1 turn at 5 cd(also a 20x attack on one enemy but who cares).  Decent stats(4070/1940/557 at +297), but with only a single OE and SB as Awakenings.

Summer Awilda meanwhile is 4073/2343/356 at +297 and has 5 OE and 4 water resists with the same skill as her normal farmable form.

Other than that? Nothing for NA, no.

Game wouldn't let me have Summer Awilda no matter how hard I tried (and I even IAPed for her). And even I'm not crazy enough to hypermax a biweekly dragon.

Light Izanami?

Mebbe. Although she adds so little else to the team that I would almost be inclined to just throw Kushinada in at that point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 04, 2016, 05:31:56 AM
Nah your prob better off just praying for no DQ

If you put in weird subs you just die to other stuff instead
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 04, 2016, 05:32:28 AM
hey so uh
Zuoh and Typhon. Are these guys really useful for anything yet? Or could I sell them for 65K without regrets?

I'll probably wait until the future to see if I get more fodder to sell, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 04, 2016, 05:47:31 AM
they're okay but :meta: and :exposure:

honestly if you don't have any immediate desire to use them feel free to if you want
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 04, 2016, 05:53:31 AM
Carrying Typhon through DXM is pretty hilarious if you want a free turn where she just heals you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 04, 2016, 06:10:52 AM
Remember when you used to sit in Legendary Earth, and nobody cared about you?

;_;

Also... That's it, I'm done with Journey to the West. I'm so close to finishing my Lakshmi team and all I really need is Dick McDouchenozzle Sha Wujing, but fuck it.

I'm doing my AMinerva team now just to spite this goddamn dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 04, 2016, 09:43:18 AM
Ok, time to farm +eggs in Hera-Sowilo, her descent is statistically the second-best!

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-01-04-09-05-33_zpst70ppsuw.png)

Remember kids, the key word is statistically  :V

Btw Gungho, i really appreciate all the nice things you are putting into this event but have you ever heard the saying "too much of a good thing"?

- Sowilo and Co. = +eggs
- Wood Cat Dragon = Osiris and Delgado skillups
- Shinrabansho 1 = Dragon Rider, Masterion and Kai skillups
- Shinrabansho 2 = Asmodeus and Sticker Girls skillups
- Kapibara = Thanatos skillups (i know elementals are crap, but it's the principle, and he is actually the most usable of the bunch)
- Extreme King Metal Dragon = i need 1 more fatty

and thanks god i don't have to run Shadow Sprite (gonna wait the update when base form get the active), Challenge (can't clear 9 and 10....my badpyyyy ?_?) or Nordis (don't have a team that can clear it)!!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 04, 2016, 09:51:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8fZ3OAc.jpg)

No turning back now.

The survivors, plus Yomi Dragon?  (https://www.padherder.com/user/TAMATAMA/monsters/)

Bastet/Susano/Meimei/Liu Bei were left intact.
Kept both Kirins for some reason.
One True Dog is still alive.
Most of my blue stuff survived, except for a duplicate Gabriel.
Didn't sell off Kanna after the trouble I went through to skill max her.
Hardly know ye, Typhon, Verdandi, Zuoh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 04, 2016, 10:04:42 AM
Grats on YomiDra Fanatic!

MECHA ZEUS IS OUT.

He is Light, same awakenings as Mecha Hera but with Light rows and Devil Killer and the expected titanic stats (Ares has just been dethroned as highest atk in the game! Now to wait for Mecha Ares to pierce fatty defense without TPA  ::))

Oh and in co-op, while at full health, dual Mecha Zeus is a STATIC x76.5 ATK and x.6.25 RCV  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on January 04, 2016, 10:18:43 AM
How does a

Sarasvati / Alrescha / Nut / I&I (Awoken?) / BValk / Sarasvati

sound? I get to have 2 hasters in Alrescha and I&I (B/L's skill would have faster 3 less CD, but worse awakenings).
Or maybe A. Haku instead of I&I since she's a board changer and a haster. Comes with a SBR as well, though 60% is still pretty sketchy. Perhaps substitute in a Beach Meta if I was really scared of binds, not sure who to replace though. Or Orochi for delay. Going to need a crapton of skill ups for everyone though.

I need a new project once my Kirin team comes to a good resting point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 04, 2016, 11:19:53 AM
How does a

Sarasvati / Alrescha / Nut / I&I (Awoken?) / BValk / Sarasvati

sound? I get to have 2 hasters in Alrescha and I&I (B/L's skill would have faster 3 less CD, but worse awakenings).
Or maybe A. Haku instead of I&I since she's a board changer and a haster. Comes with a SBR as well, though 60% is still pretty sketchy. Perhaps substitute in a Beach Meta if I was really scared of binds, not sure who to replace though. Or Orochi for delay. Going to need a crapton of skill ups for everyone though.

I need a new project once my Kirin team comes to a good resting point.

Don't know much about Sara (despite having a maxed one myself  :derp:) but as far as i've heard she has very high damage but is fragile, so try to plan your subs considering that.
On a side note, if you own an Andromeda or Gabriel you could put Awoken I&I as leader and go for the I&I/Ryune team that is all the rage nowadays. With either of the 2 and BValk you are already over halfway there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 04, 2016, 11:40:02 AM
How does a

Sarasvati / Alrescha / Nut / I&I (Awoken?) / BValk / Sarasvati

sound? I get to have 2 hasters in Alrescha and I&I (B/L's skill would have faster 3 less CD, but worse awakenings).
Or maybe A. Haku instead of I&I since she's a board changer and a haster. Comes with a SBR as well, though 60% is still pretty sketchy. Perhaps substitute in a Beach Meta if I was really scared of binds, not sure who to replace though. Or Orochi for delay. Going to need a crapton of skill ups for everyone though.

I need a new project once my Kirin team comes to a good resting point.

No, go for awoken I&I.  That team's HP is really low, so you need all the bulk you can get-- and the extra punch will save you so hard it's not even funny. Awoken I&I is so good. And they have TWO SBRs.

Haku, on the other hand, while great, is lower on the HP side and her active isn't always reliable, much less on a water hungry leader like Sarasvati.

That team does fear binds though, so use beach meta as needed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 04, 2016, 12:26:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BLr9tld.jpg)

All of my extra pantheon gods and Zuoh survived the massacre. Lives claimed were Eva duplicates I was saving for cost-restricted dungeons (lol), extra fruit dragons, elementals, and non-Meimei silver chibis. Still haven't pulled the trigger on Neptune Dragon yet, but I might.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 04, 2016, 01:03:37 PM
hey Matsy how else do you use that Yomidra? They seem like a great Zaerogoo sub but I still have double Byakko/Persephone/Izanami all being gods that can work for Yomidra, too.

Hmm.

Edit: it only took five runs of Dragon Rush to get the Zaerog drop, since I'm not feeling like running Legendary Earth -and- evolving that shit from scratch. Got a bunch of + eggs, too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 04, 2016, 05:03:37 PM
Hera-Sowilo more like Hera-SWOLElo.

Due to uh.  Plus eggs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 04, 2016, 06:27:03 PM
Got Google Play credi. from a friend enough for twelve pulls.  How suicidal is it to chase Kiriko/Saiga Another?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 04, 2016, 06:34:41 PM
Got Google Play credi. from a friend enough for twelve pulls.  How suicidal is it to chase Kiriko/Saiga Another?

THERE IS ONLY GLORY AND FAITH

CHASE DREAMS AND PREVAIL JQ
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 04, 2016, 07:03:03 PM
Go forth, bun magic!

>Saiga Another

I think I'm done here.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 04, 2016, 07:51:49 PM
Go forth, bun magic!

>Saiga Another

I think I'm done here.

First roll? O.o  Those must be some buns.....


Oh and game, thank you for reminding me just how much of an ASSHOLE you are and that i should NEVER go out of my way to get something if there is even 1% of luck involved.

After using 99 stam on Extreme Metal i thought "Ok, for the first time ever i'll stone for +eggs, 10x is too good to pass up and i want an hypermaxed team before 2020"

3 runs of Sowilo = 9 +eggs

get dunked rng
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 04, 2016, 08:31:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/RqGZzKX.jpg)

Second hypermax team complete (with one member overlapping the first).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 04, 2016, 09:16:45 PM
hey Matsy how else do you use that Yomidra? They seem like a great Zaerogoo sub but I still have double Byakko/Persephone/Izanami all being gods that can work for Yomidra, too.

YomiDra is kind of a jack of all trades, good at pretty much everything. Even as a sub, you get a fairly speedy dark and heart generator with haste, combined with unbindable bind removal, SBR, a full second time extend, and stat stick stats. Since dark is severely lacking in unbindable bind removers (the only other ones I'm aware of at the moment are Sleeping Beauty, Aamir, and DKali), YomiDra fills any dark spot well. Very reliable.

Considering all of that, you can't really get a more solid Z8 sub; YomiDra covers pretty much all of his vulnerabilities and works seamlessly with his LS by making more dark orbs (and hearts you can convert if needed).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 04, 2016, 11:50:29 PM
Hi here again ! After some (boring and long) reroll, another one looks interesting : Vishnu
It's in the "Solid tiers" on pad.wikia but "Top tier" on padherder, so I think asking here is the best thing to do ! So, keep it or reroll ?

(I can't find a way to "save" it and reroll a few more time to see if anything better shows up.. IFunbox don't work with me :( )
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 05, 2016, 12:08:11 AM
Vishnu is easy to start with because he needs, what, one wood combo to deal damage?
Late game he is a monster sub for having the highest ATK of any tripledong, so he'll be hurting everything left and right.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2016, 12:22:28 AM
Super keep.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 01:30:29 AM
In a move that I'm sure surprises nobody, I bought Neptune Dragon. I mean, why not, right?

Do you guys get the impression that I'm easily swayed? :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 05, 2016, 01:38:47 AM
I impulse bought Yomidora just from hearing this Neptunedora talk, so.

Don't let me be a bad influence now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 05, 2016, 01:44:40 AM
In a move that I'm sure surprises nobody, I bought Neptune Dragon. I mean, why not, right?

Do you guys get the impression that I'm easily swayed? :V

Guess now we're missing a Shivadra and Odindra user among us for co-op stuff, though the latter isn't really a lead...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 01:59:33 AM
Yeah, I legit strongly considered buying Odin Dragon just because he seems like such a badass sub and I'm a contrarian. Didn't do it though.

And my contrarianism is satisfied with Neptune Dragon, since as far as I know we don't know anybody who has him either.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2016, 02:05:59 AM
Back before I got kushi, I was very close to buying odin dragon before I remembered he did basically everything -except- have a damage shield.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 02:14:18 AM
I fed the dagon four snow globes (one blue and three other) and he didn't get an experience boost on any of them. Then I fed him five Bubpys and he got 1.5x on three of them. :V

I have all of his evo mats except my extra Beyzul isn't evolved. Didn't even realize I had an extra Beyzul until I just noticed it while hunting for Bubpys in my box. Thought I was going to have to go get one and be given Wangren six times in a row before it dropped, but I guess I'm safe.

Edit: I didn't factor in how hard it would be to skill up Alrescha when I committed to this, since I just assumed she had a skillup incoming. Turns out she doesn't, and I'm fresh out of Bubpys. On the plus side, I keep forgetting how good the cooldown on the star gods is. She doesn't NEED any skillups at all to pull her weight.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 05, 2016, 09:07:04 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/684298354981863424

New MP Dragon, "Anti-God Dragon Ragnarok=Mechadragon."

LS is similar to Horus, but with an added x1.5 ATK/RCV to Machine type.

AS is similar to DKali, but with an added 1 turn haste.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2016, 10:25:52 AM
I never thought i would be in the position to buy an MP monster so now i'm really unsure about what to do: should i buy YomiDra?

CONS
- by the time i can legitimately tackle Arena with him i fear there will be "MP-only OP 2.0"
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/684298354981863424

New MP Dragon, "Anti-God Dragon Ragnarok=Mechadragon."

 :V

(although at the moment the only thing that looks really OP is the name  :wat:)
GH, DON'T-F**K-THIS-UP if you want my money! New Dark MP Dragon---> D/R Attacker with TPA and i'll buy it the very day it comes out

EDIT: forgot about the God Killer awak, that makes him better than i previously thought....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 01:15:04 PM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/684298354981863424

New MP Dragon, "Anti-God Dragon Ragnarok=Mechadragon."

LS is similar to Horus, but with an added x1.5 ATK/RCV to Machine type.

AS is similar to DKali, but with an added 1 turn haste.

Ah ha ha yup, hours after I spent my MP they start rolling out new dragons. Fuuuuuuuuck meeeeee.

Not that I would probably buy that guy anyway since my machine pool is mot great (despite owning most of the Eva cards, since they aren't rainbow friendly). So I guess if they're all sort of like that I might be good..?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2016, 01:25:19 PM
C'mon, dark machine/healer card :V

Edit: Also, I got this thing (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1702) today.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 01:34:15 PM
Oh hey, I found an extra Ame No Uzume in my box that I totally thought I sold. I guess I should still probably sell her, but the idea of running two of hers new form is sort of appealing.

I should look through my box more often. There's all sorts od weird shit I forgot about in here. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
C'mon, dark machine/healer card :V

Edit: Also, I got this thing (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1702) today.

Instantly max out a 300MP dragon do it do it do it



(http://i.imgur.com/h3nAb5Q.jpg)

those stats tho
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 05, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
Quick noob question : should I fuse every monster I get (while keeping some greens one) on Vishnu, or just sell them ? Or buying monster boxes ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 05, 2016, 02:46:16 PM
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-01-05-14-42-45_zps8g8sjdmb.png)

My second +297 monster  :toot:

Although farming those Dark Pirates will be a pain in the ass.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 03:00:18 PM
Quick noob question : should I fuse every monster I get (while keeping some greens one) on Vishnu, or just sell them ? Or buying monster boxes ?

Probably couldn't hurt to max out Vishnu's level. I don't think selling them will get you too much at your stage in the game. You'll need monster boxes eventually of course, but there's no sense keeping a bunch of carbuncles and slimes. Some early-game dungeons do have rare drops though, so consider keeping anything you may get from a boss floor.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2016, 04:04:55 PM
Instantly max out a 300MP dragon do it do it do it

Gonna happen as soon as I find one that I actually want.  Yomidra is very close, but neither physical nor machine so it wouldn't work ideally with Batman.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 05, 2016, 04:21:53 PM
Gonna happen as soon as I find one that I actually want.  Yomidra is very close, but neither physical nor machine so it wouldn't work ideally with Batman.

could you
get a Zaerogoo and use both Bats and Yomidra on that team?

Not that I'm trying to get more Zaerogoo friends or anything right now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2016, 04:37:45 PM
If I was gonna run another dark lead, it'd probably be dmeta

I might do that anyway once her additional buffs go live.

With all that said, zaerog INFINIIIIIIIITE would be a really good bats sub, I just don't have the patience to level/skill him
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 05, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
DMeta is getting even more buffs?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 05:34:26 PM
Aaaah the only thing I need to evolve DragTune is a lowly Dragon Fruit for Beyzul. That's always the way of it, isn't it? I won't be using hin immediately anyway since I still need to round up Tamadras, but he's getting there. Max level, max skill, and 100 +eggs so far.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 05, 2016, 05:47:14 PM
DMeta is getting even more buffs?
She has a skillbind resist coming, for one thing.  Live in JP but not here.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2016, 06:24:53 PM
She has a skillbind resist coming, for one thing.  Live in JP but not here.

Yep.  Important for me because DMeta leads plus pandora and awoken loki subs = 100% SBR, which eliminates one of her biggest weaknesses.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 05, 2016, 06:26:16 PM
Hi here again ! After some (boring and long) reroll, another one looks interesting : Vishnu
It's in the "Solid tiers" on pad.wikia but "Top tier" on padherder, so I think asking here is the best thing to do ! So, keep it or reroll ?

(I can't find a way to "save" it and reroll a few more time to see if anything better shows up.. IFunbox don't work with me :( )

As a guy who is currently a very big Vishnu player, I'd say keep him, he's braindead easy to play and super strong.

That said, he is a Green Attacker which is a super REM dependant archetype, this does not mean that you need to be a whale to make the most out of him (I am not and I love him), that said you should keep that in mind.

For example, my Vishnu team is Liu Bei/Green Zhuge Liang/Leeza/Awoken Meimei, all four of which are REM-only cards.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 05, 2016, 06:31:26 PM
I'm going to guess that typically you wouldn't plan on using him as a lead. I would pln on him eventually becoming a sub, although he could end up being a lead if the stars align on REM pulls.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 05, 2016, 07:27:50 PM
"Oh. A Devilit is the only thing I need to uvo Yomidra, but I don't have any MP to buy it today.

Guess I'll try Rare Evo Materials Unite?"

Four runs.
Didn't get -any- drops except for the wave 1 trash.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 05, 2016, 07:37:21 PM
Re: Vishnu
He can lead even early on with such farmables as Cu Chulainn and Brachys(especially a later form that you wont be making for a while but is pretty strong for a farmable), since Vishnu may be BEST in an Attacker team but he can work off of any wood at all.  Pairing with different leaders for different situations will let you do some work with him for a while.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 05, 2016, 07:50:13 PM
"Oh. A Devilit is the only thing I need to uvo Yomidra, but I don't have any MP to buy it today.

Guess I'll try Rare Evo Materials Unite?"

Four runs.
Didn't get -any- drops except for the wave 1 trash.

Yeah, fuck that dungeon.  It's always been an awful waste.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 06, 2016, 12:13:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/KQrZuSZl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/KQrZuSZ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/iwCVSz3l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/iwCVSz3.jpg)

thank you physical HP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2016, 03:52:28 AM
So this seems kind of insane, but do you guys think there's an merit in putting black Metatron on a Neptune Dragon team? I don't see her as a full-time sub, but she does provide two things that team badly needs (skillboosts and a shield), and five black rows is... Something? I'm not sure what I would replace with her, and her shield isn't really big enough to stop any preemptives that one-shot me already, since my HP is high enough to handle everything that's not completely excessive. But I want those skillboosts and I've subbed her on Gabriel before to help me handle first floor that absolutely need Beyzul's help (namely Hera Rush).

I really just wish Neptune Dragon's black row was a skillboost, then he would seem completely on-par to the high-profile MP dragons to me, but oh well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 06, 2016, 04:02:53 AM
If you find yourself starving for blue orbs but somehow have a plethora of dark orbs, you can still hit that x6 multiplier and transfer all them multipliers to small blue combos.

If Dark Mettaton is there, you'll surely do -some- damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 06, 2016, 04:03:12 AM
I see no reason not to put her in.  She's got stuff you need, so do it!  I dunno of anything that could fill the spot other than her, so why not go for it?

The dark row thing COULD end up being just enough to deal a hefty hit to pesky light enemies if you find yourself with the orbs on-board and her Atk is really high so she might not be entirely useless for offense either if push comes to shove.  Even if she were, the extra uses outweigh the drawbacks/sub-optimal-ness of her main-dark nature IMO.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 06, 2016, 04:18:51 AM
So, some news from here : I keep progressing throught dungeon, but damn there are so many fire monsters, it's a bit tricky with a monogreen team (I often need to take a water helper for some bosses)
Right now I'm at the Fire Forest Nerva - Explosive Fire Dragon dungeon, "thanks" to that damn insomnia...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 06, 2016, 04:58:56 AM
So, some news from here : I keep progressing throught dungeon, but damn there are so many fire monsters, it's a bit tricky with a monogreen team (I often need to take a water helper for some bosses)
Right now I'm at the Fire Forest Nerva - Explosive Fire Dragon dungeon, "thanks" to that damn insomnia...

If you think you're good with Vishnu, bar pesky fire dungeons, you could probably send all of us friend requests at this point.

I'm sure that at least one of us has a beeftank lead that can help give a running start through them?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 06, 2016, 05:39:45 AM
Well, I just managed to get throught it, Sea Cave now so it's much easier  :D

Anyway, is that okay if I add some people on first page as friend even if I'm low rank ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2016, 05:44:04 AM
Couldn't hurt to try. I'm friends with most of the people on there even though I don't share leads with almost any of them. It's a nice way to keep up to date on how other people are doing and what they're playing if nothing else, so don't worry about other people actually using your leader yet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 06, 2016, 05:49:57 AM
And of course, using our leads just means more pal points for everybody in addition to having an easier time.

I don't mind. I might even pull One True Dog out again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 06, 2016, 06:14:46 AM
Hmmm that's weird, I tried some ID from the first page (including you two) and the game said "Unregistered user"  ???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 06, 2016, 06:31:59 AM
Are we both in NA? 359,184,275 is, uh, very definitely mine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 06, 2016, 06:37:24 AM
Nah I'm EU :( I thought only the JP version was different :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 06, 2016, 09:26:53 AM
I don't mind. I might even pull One True Dog out again.

I was going to say that you kinda shouldn't, remember how much you spoiled me with her back when I was a newbie? :V

And then...

Nah I'm EU :( I thought only the JP version was different :(

Well, darn, that sucks. Oh well I guess. :/
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 06, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
unrelated to PAD but speaking of being spoiled with One True Dog

The boyfriend had obtained for me this for Christmas  (http://imgur.com/mC5OCmz)

He's a keeper.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2016, 12:09:28 PM
unrelated to PAD but speaking of being spoiled with One True Dog

The boyfriend had obtained for me this for Christmas  (http://imgur.com/mC5OCmz)

He's a keeper.

Speaking of Sanrio mascots, I've been mildly obsessed with that despondant egg man character for a few weeks now. Hello Kitty Collab 2 plz so we can get that guy as a collab gold. Or dungeon boss,or trash filler, I don't care.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 06, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
Speaking of Sanrio mascots, I've been mildly obsessed with that despondant egg man character for a few weeks now. Hello Kitty Collab 2 plz so we can get that guy as a collab gold. Or dungeon boss,or trash filler, I don't care.

You didn't strike me as a Gudetama guy, I'm surprised
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
I wouldn't be, normally. I just happened to see him and he fascinates me. Not being the kind of person who usually follows Sanrio I don't have any context for what he is or what he does (if there even is any context) so he's just... Weird.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 06, 2016, 03:30:15 PM
alright guys, school resumes for me in 5 hours so it's time for me to get as much of the chuuni as I can out of my system

Overlord Descended! - Phantasm (No Continues) (http://i.imgur.com/Trr81e8.jpg)

despondant egg man character

wat
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 06, 2016, 04:32:40 PM
1) How did you do that and how long did it take?

2) You are mad...... Dancing Mad!  :D

3) My personal favourite is the high-def boss on floor 3  :]
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 06, 2016, 04:48:51 PM
I dont know whether to be happy or saddened by ny AI, haha.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2016, 04:56:54 PM
wat

(https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/gude-nemu1.jpg?w=1384&h=756)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 06, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Finally got Awoken Tsukuyomi.

I also decided to hypermax Awoken Tsukuyomi, so that's a thing that's happening now <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 06, 2016, 05:22:54 PM
alright guys, school resumes for me in 5 hours so it's time for me to get as much of the chuuni as I can out of my system

Overlord Descended! - Phantasm (No Continues) (http://i.imgur.com/Trr81e8.jpg)

wosh u soul
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 06, 2016, 06:28:05 PM
(https://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/gude-nemu1.jpg?w=1384&h=756)

is this what you look like when a day goes by without a beyzul buff
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2016, 06:45:56 PM
is this what you look like when a day goes by without a beyzul buff

No, I am used to Beyzul being forgotten. That doesn't bother me on a day to day basis (it only bothers me when I have to fight an enemy with fixed HP that's almost impossible to kill when missing a subattribute). That's just what I look like first thing every morning.

Also speaking of Beyzul, I incidentally have like 350 +eggs invested in Beyzuls right now because I've been dumping them in that extra one I'll be feeding to NepDra. If I didn't have the world record before, surely I do now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on January 06, 2016, 09:28:46 PM
alright guys, school resumes for me in 5 hours so it's time for me to get as much of the chuuni as I can out of my system

Overlord Descended! - Phantasm (No Continues) (http://i.imgur.com/Trr81e8.jpg)
This is great in many ways.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 07, 2016, 02:08:35 AM
alright guys, school resumes for me in 5 hours so it's time for me to get as much of the chuuni as I can out of my system

Overlord Descended! - Phantasm (No Continues) (http://i.imgur.com/Trr81e8.jpg)
its perfect
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 07, 2016, 03:23:56 AM
Legelonte confirmed, music is dead.

RIP people hoping for Hel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 07, 2016, 03:27:29 AM
is this what you look like when a day goes by without a beyzul buff

gudetama is an egg with no spunk or drive.

very negative and defeatist in attitude, he believes some day he will be eaten by someone in the future
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 07, 2016, 07:39:56 AM
oh look all kiriko got was an active buff

it's what i wanted most atleast :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 07, 2016, 10:29:08 AM
Just reach Castle of Satans, definitely need to xp my monsters now. I guess I shoud farm a green dungeon to get the xp bonus for same color monster ?

Edit  : Also, I have a few Dragon Seed, Dragon Flower & Fruit Dragon, should I keep them ? Or fuse ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 07, 2016, 11:03:49 AM
Keep all of them (well the Dragon Seeds are very easily replaced so if you need space.....) , they will be used to evolve your monsters.

Castle of Satan is the first true checkpoint of the game, where you jump from "roflstomp everything without even looking" to "ok, get a few levels on the monsters, select a good partner leader and roflstomp everything AGAIN"  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 07, 2016, 12:12:38 PM
Actually the first checkpoint of the game is the tower of giants since the last boss is the first thing that actually gives people trouble :V

Castle of Satan is the first major checkpoint though, especially since you unlock technicals after beating it.

If you're having trouble, it is definitely a good idea to level up your stuff, back when I was still using Tyrannos I spent like 3 days worth of stamina in Fire Forest Nerva grabbing level up monsters, you should do something similar if you're having trouble.

Also, assuming EU is anything like NA, their challenge dungeons should be up right now, at this point you can definitely handle level 1 and probably level 2, if you really want you can go for level 3, get their goodies and a free stone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rXyk4RX.jpg)

I spent three hours solid grinding kanetsugu for this and did not buy a single stone

worth
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2016, 01:33:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rXyk4RX.jpg)

I spent three hours solid grinding kanetsugu for this and did not buy a single stone

worth

That's not a bad idea at all. I was planning on saving up stones for the New Years REM (when are we getting that, anyway? After this event ends?) but I forgot what a great dungeon Kametsugu is. Easy, fast, good experience, and actually a decent chance of getting seven eggs. I could probably finish hypermaxing NepDra and take a chunk out of Alr!scha with the five stones I have waiting for New Years REM...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
Just to be clear, Yomi was already +130 when I started. But I made a solid +200 extra with 6 stones and 2 rank ups. Good exp and drop rates! I recommend it if you want to sink the time into it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
Yeah,  I did the math. Dagon is +131 right now, so that sounds about right for five stones.

Let's see if I can get him hypermax before he has any awakenings. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on January 07, 2016, 05:27:14 PM
Been doing nothing but trying to farm the rare drops from shinra. Strange, I had a good bit of luck last time it happened. At least I already have a kapibara-san for if I do get one of the mons who need it. Mostly been working on evolving things this past month rather than advancing in dungeons, since they've proven to be a bit much for me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2016, 05:54:54 PM
Oh right, I forgot that lack of Ra friends is a significant roadblock to farming Kanetsugu. Or at least farming quickly. Kali or Kalloween should be able to do it no problem if I make them a rainbow team, just maybe a bit slower.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2016, 06:07:16 PM
Why not run it with Neptune Dragon? They're meant for farming after all. I did all my runs with Yomi Dragon, myself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2016, 06:22:58 PM
He's still unawoken, so I'm down a lot of rows and a skillboost. And it's all-attributes, and I don't have a blue rows team with a red member. That's kind of why I wanted Christmas Siren but I didn't pull her.

Is NepDra really that suitable for farming? Orb hungry+low skillboosts+my lead doesn't have an orbchange active seems like it would be sketchy for farming. Maybe I'm underestimating his haste, but it would take quite a while just to get it up.

Edit: I suppose if I had like three Hermes he would probably farm great, but I don't.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 07, 2016, 06:29:56 PM
(http://imgur.com/nVL5Qp5.jpg)

Maybe I rushed Kanetsugu a little too fast.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 07, 2016, 07:14:29 PM
...How many stones are you guys sinking into this? Jesus.

@Edit:

...Did you guys ever notice how Kanetsugu's unevolved name is "Yoroku"? Cause I certainly didn't.

Also, Vishnu is currently +99/+76/+99, and I have 10 ATK +s stored away, which means I just need 13 more ATK plusses to have my second hypermax ever.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the second batch into... Ame No Uzume of all people, simply because she's also going into my eventual AMinerva team.

I also swapped out BOdin for GOdin on my Horus team, turns out if you're using BOdin purely for his stats, having a 2k autoheal that is also unbindable means more.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 07, 2016, 07:43:53 PM
...How many stones are you guys sinking into this? Jesus.

not enough

...Did you guys ever notice how Kanetsugu's unevolved name is "Yoroku"? Cause I certainly didn't.

I think it refers to the real man the dragon is based off of having gotten a new name at some point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 07, 2016, 08:11:13 PM
...Okay, what is a good +egg farming dungeon coming up that isn't Kanetsugu? I have zero rainbow teams besides Horus and I still choke too much on him to make this a "farm" team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 07, 2016, 08:15:34 PM
...Okay, what is a good +egg farming dungeon coming up that isn't Kanetsugu? I have zero rainbow teams besides Horus and I still choke too much on him to make this a "farm" team.

You could try doing coin dungeon runs of Yinping.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2016, 08:16:05 PM
PAD Z is not bad. Guan Yinping is pretty good from coin dungeons if you have a team for that and don't mind paying coins for it. If I'm not mistaken neither of those is quite as good as Kametsugu since they give less experience, but they're easy and give similar eggs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 07, 2016, 08:58:45 PM
...How many stones are you guys sinking into this? Jesus.

I didn't really sink as much as you'd think into this. No more than a typical godfest of things I really want, really. Nowhere near as much as I put into Xmas REM, but that was stupidity at its finest.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 08, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
I think it refers to the real man the dragon is based off of having gotten a new name at some point.

Yoroku was Naoe Kanetsugu's name at birth, so it's fitting that the pre-evo has the birth name.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2016, 03:21:23 AM
Alright, I got Neptune Dragon up to +255 with what amounts to one stone (two stones, but I slipped Gift Of The Holy Beasts in there too because I was about to rank up). Not I'm basically out of friend leads even after dipping into the Kalis, so I guess I'm done after I finish the one run I'll have the stamina for later. Probably plan on finishing him up with PAD Z.

Impressively PAD's freakish +egg imbalance that I've been grappling with forever (I had like 60 more RCV eggs than anything else) has completely balanced out, and he's now pretty close but slightly leading in attack. Granted some of that evening out was the result of like 20 extra RCV eggs that I fed to Susano before I started this project, but it was still a problem.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on January 08, 2016, 06:10:07 AM
~200 exp left to rank up, 3 stamina left

Dungeon of Wood is at 1/2 stamina, I'll do that

> 44 exp left to rank up

Are you fking serious >: (
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 08, 2016, 07:13:14 AM
We have maintenance for new ults on the 13th.

Pls giv Mikey/Freyja/Astaroth ;;


Edit: Why the hell has no one mentioned 3 minute stamina wtf
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 08, 2016, 07:40:44 AM
Edit: Why the hell has no one mentioned 3 minute stamina wtf

Could have sworn Trance mentioned it at some point.

Regardless, good times were had by all.  And by good times I mean "oh god more stamina"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2016, 08:34:27 AM
We have maintenance for new ults on the 13th.

Pls giv Mikey/Freyja/Astaroth ;;


Edit: Why the hell has no one mentioned 3 minute stamina wtf

What do you think our odds of seeing Gabriel then are? Anything?

Surprised they skipped four minutes straight down to three. Using up valuable real estate. I can see why they did it, when I think about th? stones I spend this doesn't change my spending habits at all but I'm sure it looks good when comparing to other games. These things always have the unfortunate side wffect of feeling a little desperate on Gungho's part, but I'm sure it's fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 08, 2016, 10:24:24 AM
Jan 07 23:15:40 <jq1790>   I'm lucky I guess in that Arena is still not even a twinkle in my eye, heh.  I'm not actually that interested in it in GENERAL, but...
Jan 07 23:16:17 <Chirei>   i'll probably beat it soon just to tell myself I did

--THREE HOURS LATER--

dark lord yamap: ok bois he's thinking about beating arena, we can't let that non-paying bastard have his way

>Ultimate Arena now being replaced with Ultimate Arena 2
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 08, 2016, 11:34:52 AM
>new ult arena

Welp time for ra dragon to get shit on

Inb4 every boss has damage shield and guaranteed goemonsopdet spawns
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 08, 2016, 11:55:38 AM
Jan 07 23:15:40 <jq1790>   I'm lucky I guess in that Arena is still not even a twinkle in my eye, heh.  I'm not actually that interested in it in GENERAL, but...
Jan 07 23:16:17 <Chirei>   i'll probably beat it soon just to tell myself I did

--THREE HOURS LATER--

dark lord yamap: ok bois he's thinking about beating arena, we can't let that non-paying bastard have his way

>Ultimate Arena now being replaced with Ultimate Arena 2

Gave me a good laugh! Now let see who cave first  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 08, 2016, 12:04:05 PM
Could have sworn Trance mentioned it at some point.

Regardless, good times were had by all.  And by good times I mean "oh god more stamina"

I posted YamaP's tweet about it, the announcement formally was made a couple hours ago
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 08, 2016, 06:22:17 PM
Oh Yeah, just beat Castle of Satan ! Well, thanks to a Rank 387 Bastet friend, but still ! I just hope that I will not need such a friend for each dungeon now..
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2016, 07:48:27 PM
Got some Nepdra friends, and I've neen messing around with the team despite having put next to no work into Alrescha. Here are my first impressions:

-This team is, as I feared, s-l-o-w. I only have three orbchanges smd I need a ton of orbs. That might not be too bad since I have a ton of haste, but it takes too long to get Dragon up because of my low skillboosts.

-2.25x recovery is enormous on this team. Even with Alrescha having virtually no recovery right now, I'm healing up to full every turn, basically guaranteed.

-The damage is good, probably even great, but it's not ZOMG-tier. It will one-shot everything I need it to I suppose if I can dedicate enough actives, but it's not really more than Gabe or high-end Ra damage.

-All of those things being the case, this team is... Weird. It's absolutely not a spike team, not the way I have it built, and the HP is good but it's still much too low to be a tank team. It seems like a consistent balanced team with enormous damage potential. That sounds great on paper, but it's just so slow...

I mean, jury's out. I'm basically down a full member since Alrescha is so underdeveloped right now, so I can't make a call for sure. But my tentative review is "Extremely flawed, possibly too flawed to really cut it, but the potential might be amazing". Needs more development and practice.

I pretty much expected all of this except maybe for just how easily it recovers, so arguably that's bad news since my expectations were kind of low, but this is only like half an hour in.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 08, 2016, 08:20:55 PM
NepDra is weeeird, yeah.  I ran with one last night when I ran out of Idunn twins and while it worked and was strong, I realize more and more why I like flat unconditional leads sometimes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 08, 2016, 09:54:44 PM
I'm kind of baffled as to why legelonte is descend-status. It's really no more useful than the trophy biweeklies.

Where my Hel?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2016, 09:56:44 PM
What the fuck?! I was just running Extreme Endless Corridor with Nepdra and I died between floors for absolutely no reason. I had just killed Threedia, Beyzul popped up onscreen, and I took ~27k damage out of nowhere and insta-died. What happened?

Edit: Oh wait, I think I get it. I had fought Zeus Mercury many floors earlier and I still had his increased water drops effect up, which I assume replaced Beyzul's similar effect with a massive preemptive? That seems kind of bullshit.

I was almost certainly going to win too, even with my unevolved, unskilled Alrescha. So I guess thay says something about how Nepdra works once he gets rolling. Not that Extreme Endless is the hardest ever or anything, but that still seems pretty good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 08, 2016, 10:42:35 PM
Yeah, tis is a known thing.  If you fight Beyzul after Merc without you eat a massive preemp and die.  The end.

A load of crap but there it is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 09, 2016, 01:21:03 AM
I'm kind of baffled as to why legelonte is descend-status. It's really no more useful than the trophy biweeklies.

he's way better than biweeklies lol. Machine with over 500 RCV and a shield+haste AS.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 09, 2016, 02:56:22 AM
He's also a rainbow-friendly machine sub which is cool. Doesn't seem great for the golem generals since his shield clashes with the shield from their active, but he might be cool for that new MP dragon. Is there a better blue sub for machine rainbow teams? I guess there probably is, but I can't think what it would be. Unit 13 maaaaybe?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2016, 03:22:21 AM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12259_1198603003501623_3800362995041531759_n.png?oh=97b2e466b5c6bacd40cf3707396ea31f&oe=57403320)

ok bois first stream of the new year let's go
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 09, 2016, 04:44:00 AM
He's also a rainbow-friendly machine sub which is cool. Doesn't seem great for the golem generals since his shield clashes with the shield from their active, but he might be cool for that new MP dragon. Is there a better blue sub for machine rainbow teams? I guess there probably is, but I can't think what it would be. Unit 13 maaaaybe?

armin prolly tbh, especially for ragnarooookkkk

but for a free card, he's a good replacement for a rcv buffer
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 09, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
(http://imgur.com/HaZ5QVe.jpg)

Gimme that (second!) asterisk.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 09, 2016, 12:38:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PXcJLZ6.jpg)


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 09, 2016, 01:24:36 PM
(http://imgur.com/HaZ5QVe.jpg)

Gimme that (second!) asterisk.

I want these !

Anyway, is there any good monster to get in the shirabansho collab dungeon ? (or any other special dungeon running actually ? )
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2016, 01:38:57 PM
Today's return of PADZ seems to have a few new changes:

-You may now use any team to play it.
-The difficulty is now Legend/Z instead of Master/Z, making it a Mythical-level collab.
-The waves are redone some, and you may beat it again for the stone if you already did in the past with the restrictions.
-The boss music from PadZ is now gone.

I want these !

Anyway, is there any good monster to get in the shirabansho collab dungeon ? (or any other special dungeon running actually ? )

"good" is a bit subjective, but I don't think anything quite falls under that category right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 09, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PXcJLZ6.jpg)


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

One of these is not like the others.....  :V

Anyway, is there any good monster to get in the shirabansho collab dungeon ? (or any other special dungeon running actually ? )

The only thing that you might be somewhat interested in is the invade from Shinrabansho 2, Crystal Ruler Hikari - Tenchi.
She is a farmable unbindable bind clearer with decent stats. But she is Light, so keep in mind that she would be offcolor with your Vishnu....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 09, 2016, 01:54:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/PXcJLZ6.jpg)


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Wood immunity shenanigans, Matsy?  Fr when the Grecoroman update arrives naturally, but still.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 09, 2016, 02:07:08 PM

The only thing that you might be somewhat interested in is the invade from Shinrabansho 2, Crystal Ruler Hikari - Tenchi.
She is a farmable unbindable bind clearer with decent stats. But she is Light, so keep in mind that she would be offcolor with your Vishnu....

Ty, and what about Blooming Flower Princess Kaguya as a sub ?
(Jsut saw that you can see each monster drop on padx..)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 09, 2016, 02:20:36 PM
Ty, and what about Blooming Flower Princess Kaguya as a sub ?
(Jsut saw that you can see each monster drop on padx..)

I'd... recommend against it, that Kaguya is a skillup material - a monster made specifically to skillup a more valuable monster, in this case, Astaroth. She's also part of the dreaded half of skillup materials that requires evolution before it can be fed to the valuable monster in question.

Since she's Astaroth's skillup, her skill is the exact same as Astaroth's and as such, has the exact same problem - it's a pitifully slow orbchange that only gets better when you skill it up to max (and then it becomes a... slower-than-average orbchange) which means you won't get to use it very often. She does not have a subattribute, and as a level 70 max monster, her stats are pretty ass.

She's the kind of monster that fits but only in the "worst possible scenario" kind of way. To her credit though, she is in the 5% highest RCV stats for 4*s out there so maybe she could work as a statick? Although even then that's a stretch.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 09, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
I'd... recommend against it, that Kaguya is a skillup material - a monster made specifically to skillup a more valuable monster, in this case, Astaroth. She's also part of the dreaded half of skillup materials that requires evolution before it can be fed to the valuable monster in question.

Since she's Astaroth's skillup, her skill is the exact same as Astaroth's and as such, has the exact same problem - it's a pitifully slow orbchange that only gets better when you skill it up to max (and then it becomes a... slower-than-average orbchange) which means you won't get to use it very often. She does not have a subattribute, and as a level 70 max monster, her stats are pretty ass.

She's the kind of monster that fits but only in the "worst possible scenario" kind of way. To her credit though, she is in the 5% highest RCV stats for 4*s out there so maybe she could work as a statick? Although even then that's a stretch.

Ok thanks a lot for all those details ! I will probably continue with my current team : Vishnu, Armor Ogre and 3 Hobgoblin (I wait for Tuesday to grab somme Keeper to evolve them)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 09, 2016, 02:36:03 PM
Ok thanks a lot for all those details ! I will probably continue with my current team : Vishnu, Armor Ogre and 3 Hobgoblin (I wait for Tuesday to grab somme Keeper to evolve them)

If you're using Armor Ogre, keep in mind that it's extremely easy to ultimate evolve it into Flame Armor Ogre or Ice Armor Ogre. You just need some common evolution materials, and ultimate evolutions can be done at any time, even if the thing you're evolving isn't maximum level. Just make sure it has both awakenings by feeding two other Armor Ogres to it before you evolve it, since it will be a little harder to awaken afterward.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 09, 2016, 02:40:52 PM
If you're using Armor Ogre, keep in mind that it's extremely easy to ultimate evolve it into Flame Armor Ogre or Ice Armor Ogre. You just need some common evolution materials, and ultimate evolutions can be done at any time, even if the thing you're evolving isn't maximum level. Just make sure it has both awakenings by feeding two other Armor Ogres to it before you evolve it, since it will be a little harder to awaken afterward.

I saw that too, seems that Tuesday will be a Keeper Farming day !  Thanks again !
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 09, 2016, 05:30:42 PM
One of these is not like the others.....  :V

Wood immunity shenanigans, Matsy?  Fr when the Grecoroman update arrives naturally, but still.

Jq gets it.

I'd... recommend against it, that Kaguya is a skillup material - a monster made specifically to skillup a more valuable monster, in this case, Astaroth. She's also part of the dreaded half of skillup materials that requires evolution before it can be fed to the valuable monster in question.

Since she's Astaroth's skillup, her skill is the exact same as Astaroth's and as such, has the exact same problem - it's a pitifully slow orbchange that only gets better when you skill it up to max (and then it becomes a... slower-than-average orbchange) which means you won't get to use it very often. She does not have a subattribute, and as a level 70 max monster, her stats are pretty ass.

She's the kind of monster that fits but only in the "worst possible scenario" kind of way. To her credit though, she is in the 5% highest RCV stats for 4*s out there so maybe she could work as a statick? Although even then that's a stretch.

Do what you want, honestly, because Awoken Astaroth is far, far better than her normal evos in pretty much every way. (except art. Pajamastaroth ftw)

But as someone who went through the hell of skilling up Astaroth with kaguyas, I strongly recommend against it because Kaguya is pretty awful and not worth the effort.

I suggest investing in making Cu Chulainn or Ancient Dragon Knight Zeal. They're much better wood makers for early game use (and Cu Chulainn is still a solid pick later on).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 09, 2016, 06:31:55 PM
One thing I've noticed: the stream banner this time around is Grisar. Usually it's been possible to predict what'll be shown on the stream based on what they show (Tornado Holy Dragon was used for Nordis, Zhu Bajie hinted that they'd be slotting that descend back in for the stream period, and so on).

Grisar's only set appearances in dungeons are wave 16 of Ultimate Arena, and...as the boss of co-op Devil Rush.

Here's hoping?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 09, 2016, 06:44:01 PM
One thing I've noticed: the stream banner this time around is Grisar. Usually it's been possible to predict what'll be shown on the stream based on what they show (Tornado Holy Dragon was used for Nordis, Zhu Bajie hinted that they'd be slotting that descend back in for the stream period, and so on).

Grisar's only set appearances in dungeons are wave 16 of Ultimate Arena, and...as the boss of co-op Devil Rush.

Here's hoping?

richard + mr. s let's go

either that or they're just going to do angel/reaper invades which would be kind of a bland teaser...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 09, 2016, 07:35:01 PM
Id be ok with it, much of a letdown as it'd be; I need Grizal copies and to finally beat up Ilya anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 09, 2016, 11:13:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6uD5s4L.jpg)

Just gotta get him some latents (I guuuuess five HP) at some point. Working on Alrescha now, got her evolved and fed her an off-color snowglobe, going to awaken her tomorrow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 09, 2016, 11:23:35 PM
Ah, so you did finish him.  I saw the in-progress version as I was gathering my own plusses.  Got enough plusses to max DMeta's HP/RCV now; just gotta do my dragon runs for money and then finish my Atk fodder and she'll be hyper at last.

SQ next, though obviously I won't make it terribly far on that front in one night with just four stones, but I'll get him a bit of the way there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2016, 12:00:07 AM
welp so much for padz being stamina efficient farming

died twice because of small mobs just annihilating my face despite having 30k+ hp
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 10, 2016, 12:16:37 AM
Yeah PADZ is surprisingly tough. The little guys can shred you in a second and the preemptives can really take you by surprise. I haven't actually died yet, but I had one run where the first floor goons hit me down to 16 HP (and I did NOT calculate that, I just got lucky) and two runs where I should have died to the bosses because I miscalculated my damage and left them at a sliver of health, but my poison JUST killed them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 10, 2016, 12:28:55 AM
Remember, while it might have been Legend before it's Mythical now and has power to match!

Me, this is more of "JQ cheaping out the game with Awoken Chinese shenanigans" so I kinda tilt the odds a bit too much to my favor to die, but even I lose like 2/3rds of my health if I have to eat the first wave's hits, much less the second.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2016, 12:44:09 AM
its not that the dungeons is hard, it ridiculously really dangerous for something thats supposed to be farmed. one slip up and it's rip

also holy shit i'm +40 HP and +70 atk over rcv

pls can i just get some more rcv
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 10, 2016, 01:16:20 AM
its not that the dungeons is hard, it ridiculously really dangerous for something thats supposed to be farmed. one slip up and it's rip

i dunno, the actual bosses are pathetic and there shouldn't be a problem with the trash

maybe if you're using hard color teams for it for some reason :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2016, 01:28:20 AM
I tried using Isis to farm but I got annihilated by double wood boss spawn >__>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 10, 2016, 01:32:12 AM
For anyone not resisting Wood Stamp it's a pain to run into the wood spawn on F4, definitely.  That thing's a pain and has spawned on almost all of my runs; the only reason I don't die is because :AKarin shenanigans: but he's still annoyiiiing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2016, 01:38:20 AM
yeah that and the fact that holy shit anything without a RCV multiplier is actually garbage at healing

i used all my heart orbs and healed only like half my hp and at that point i knew i was just fucked

so im basically just gonna all ra dra always forever and forever a hundred years ra dra forever ra dra dot com
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 10, 2016, 01:51:39 AM
Have you tried pairing with Awoken Idunn&Idunna?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 10, 2016, 02:16:45 AM
I think I'm done +egg farming for now, one hypermax is enough to satisfy me this event, and I don't want to play the game so much it feels like a job and I get burned out of it (I know better than to do that).

So next projects are doing my AMinerva team, doing AYomi and then finishing my lakshmi team while trying my darnest to work on my pandora team. So much to do. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2016, 02:28:52 AM
Have you tried pairing with Awoken Idunn&Idunna?
at that point i might as well just go ryune/i&i or w/e since hp/rcv boost rows seems to be the new coop meta

im not going to seriously invest into it though because i need every +egg i can get just for my ra dra subs

im also hesitant to dump resources to building other teams because the meta moves so fast, so any other team i can try wont have +eggs and will basically be worse than ra dra in every way

basically the only way ive been able to keep up with teh meta so far is by hoarding resources and then when something op falls into my lap i dump it all into that. it worked for ra dra and now i'm holding off until the next ridiculous thing
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 10, 2016, 09:42:52 AM
The problem with that is that the meta is shifting away from superhigh spike teams with no hp/rcv multipliers and that's honestly a good thing as it brings validity to more defensive styles of play rather than stall/low atk multiplier play be Hard Mode, thus the roadblocks for spike teams have come into play, like damage shields and resolve.

I mean, as much as I dearly love my ASaku and AYomi, I can see the writing on the wall here and while they're great, I've invested a lot of time and effort into my I&I (and will put more into her team next 10x) and Astaroth teams since they have much better capacity to survive instead of killing or being killed and will serve me greatly in the future.


But just for the sake of completion:

(http://i.imgur.com/LC8UCAZ.jpg)

Thought I'd finish her off with my collected stones from PADZ and Legelonte.

(http://i.imgur.com/PKomcN4.jpg)

2 rows done! I'll work on water stuff next time once I get a solid plan for my I&I team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 10, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Congrats to commandercool and Matsuri for their +297 (and all my jelly :D i have only 2 +297 and almost a third)

Pad Z was surprisingly unforgiving, i actually died once with A.Sakuya because i messed up the light tpa, leaving the guy alive and ready to ragekill me....
..... after that i reverted to old RoBu and repeatedly roflstomped it without looking  :derp: Semi-tank teams, even old ones, always reliable!

also holy shit i'm +40 HP and +70 atk over rcv

pls can i just get some more rcv

Seconded. Right now i have so many +hp stored up i can basically give any monster physical-subtype statwise  :colbert:

So next projects are doing my AMinerva team, doing AYomi and then finishing my lakshmi team while trying my darnest to work on my pandora team. So much to do. :V

If in the future you'll need a partner leader for those teams, give me a call and maybe'll be able to help. No Minerva, but i've almost all the mats to Awoken both Yomi and Lakshmi, and of course my own maxskilled Pandora  ;)
Although...... i don't know if it's a good idea to work on a Pandora team right now. Heroes will probably get uuevo/awoken not too far from now and after seeing A.Haku, A.Shiva, R/L Ares and the likes i fear they might change her playstyle.....

As for myself, i really hope one between Sephiroth, Satsuki, and the still-in-the-air D/F tpa attacker (GH: "Soon?") get some damn boost in rcv in their uevo.
Even with a fully hypermaxed team and x1.95 RCV i barely reach 5k, which would be used to heal a 32k hp pool, and THAT is not funny....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 10, 2016, 12:52:19 PM


this is exactly why I sunk a huge amount of investment into Shiva Dragon and red, because Red is by far the best color for generic skillup/plus egg farming. This is offset by the fact Red is the worst color for tackling Challenges and Arena, where all the other colors have tools to tackle those much fairly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 10, 2016, 12:54:47 PM
i feel old

(http://i.imgur.com/DkEoQcR.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2016, 05:21:22 PM
There's nothing wrong with the meta shifting away from ra dra in general, since he is pretty silly and needs to be kept in check. It's just I don't want to invest into another team unless I know it can last. Like I&I row teams are good but then they made Awoken Astaroth/Lucifer who are even better, and then there's probably gonna eventually be a HP/ATK/RCV row MP dragon that's bind immune and has like 5 rows or w/e and I don't have the time or the desire to hypermax a million teams (I'm still not even done with my current ones)

Also ra dra is still op as fuck even with absorbs and perseverance :V I dont think there's a single dungeon yet that he can't beat (aside from conditionals obviously) Coop mode actually helps him a lot since you can have way more utility with 8 subs than just 4
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 10, 2016, 06:16:45 PM
That kind of mentality only really applies if you want to be the absolute best of the best and doesn't really apply if you just want "enough" to clear content.

I mean, AHorus has never been in the spotlight since he was released alongside ABastet and ARa, both of which are far superior to him, but he's still capable of clearing a lot of content with the right team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 10, 2016, 06:28:41 PM
That kind of mentality only really applies if you want to be the absolute best of the best and doesn't really apply if you just want "enough" to clear content.
yeah but

I WANNA BE

THE VERY BEST

LIKE NO ONE EVER WAASSSSSSS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 10, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAASSSSSSS

wouldn't this mean you have to use a team other than ra dragon because everyone else is doing it...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 10, 2016, 10:40:23 PM
wouldn't this mean you have to use a team other than ra dragon because everyone else is doing it...

It's time for A.Isis's Arena clear!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 10, 2016, 10:53:20 PM
It's time for A.Isis's Arena clear!
Pretty sure that's been done already.

I mean, iirc the whole JP tier system is entirely based on "is this leader good enough to carry a team through an Arena victory?" and if they are in the list then the answer is always "yes", with the tier representing how easy it is to do and how versatile they are in doing it. And I'm 100% sure AIsis is in the B Rank

(Although I could be completely wrong on this, someone correct me if so.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on January 11, 2016, 12:57:16 AM
this is exactly why I sunk a huge amount of investment into Shiva Dragon and red, because Red is by far the best color for generic skillup/plus egg farming. This is offset by the fact Red is the worst color for tackling Challenges and Arena, where all the other colors have tools to tackle those much fairly.

I thought Green was the worst colour for Arena by far because Kraken, Apollo, and both Kali being sub-red.
rip

Oh well, it's getting renewed anyways and I never bothered to do it with Bastet! :V
Cleared Arena again while it's at half stam with Hathor. :V This team is surprisingly consistent.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 11, 2016, 10:17:39 AM
I thought Green was the worst colour for Arena by far because Kraken, Apollo, and both Kali being sub-red.
rip

Green has more utility subs than Red, is the thing.

There's nothing wrong with the meta shifting away from ra dra in general, since he is pretty silly and needs to be kept in check. It's just I don't want to invest into another team unless I know it can last. Like I&I row teams are good but then they made Awoken Astaroth/Lucifer who are even better, and then there's probably gonna eventually be a HP/ATK/RCV row MP dragon that's bind immune and has like 5 rows or w/e and I don't have the time or the desire to hypermax a million teams (I'm still not even done with my current ones)

When you put it that way, you might as well just stick with Ra Dra forever...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 11, 2016, 12:44:46 PM
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why does kaguya need to be in the challenge what a rotten dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 11, 2016, 02:09:51 PM
Kaguya AND Wadatsumi is pretty sadistic, yeah. Gungho loves throwing around their most unpleasant dungeons given the chance. Although I think Gabriel/Ryune beats Wadatsumi pretty handily. I was using Gabriel/Blodin before and it was consistent, just slow and painful. Sans awakenings Ryune is better in basically every way, so hopefully it won't be as bad this time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 11, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
(http://imgur.com/bo8MZ9z.jpg)

Haha. Take that, volume meter!

I might try to skill up Scarlet for Raoh. More haste is always good, yes?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 11, 2016, 03:30:56 PM
I still don't even have an idea as to how I might go about trying to beat Scarlet. Scarlet is the one non-arena dungeon I just can't beat. I guess if I bashed Ra into it for long enough I would probably eventually just get lucky, but I certainly don't have an actual plan.

orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 11, 2016, 03:40:12 PM
Damn, Tower of Flare with a monogreen team is tough...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 11, 2016, 04:51:32 PM
Damn, Tower of Flare with a monogreen team is tough...

Your best bet is probably to pair up with a good blue leader. I just cleared it in JP with a monogreen team too abusing the hell out of a BValk i luckily befriended  ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on January 11, 2016, 05:09:44 PM
Green has more utility subs than Red, is the thing.

When you put it that way, you might as well just stick with Ra Dra forever...

Green's utility are all shields tbh.
Our bind healers are Ceres and Odin dragon.
And only green teams need a bind healer in the first place due to apollo.
Gon is green's best utility sub with delay and def-ignore. Sadly he's collab gold and nothing else comes close. At least we have Christmas Alraune
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 11, 2016, 05:25:19 PM
Damn, Tower of Flare is tough...
Fixed that for you.  Tower of Flare is another one of the tough difficulty spikes so don't feel too discouraged if you have trouble with it.  I THINK this might be where you first fight Ifrit so I'd recommend either doing as Espadas said and/or having a defense breaker(Earth Knight, maybe?  Or Earth Baron if you decide to evo one that far) to deal with it since its DEF is really really high and it hits pretty hard.  (You can ping it down with 1s, but it's better if you can hit over its DEF so it can't pummel your face in.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2016, 05:29:08 PM
Green's utility are all shields tbh.
Our bind healers are Ceres and Odin dragon.
And only green teams need a bind healer in the first place due to apollo.
Gon is green's best utility sub with delay and def-ignore. Sadly he's collab gold and nothing else comes close. At least we have Christmas Alraune

red has basically worse options in every category there except maybe delay if you run ecchi and def ignore if you're red prongs (AKA bad red)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 11, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
Good news: Scarlet seems to be no problem with Batman.

Bad news: That's with the caveat of me playing at higher than "completely fucking amateur" level.  I really have to stop playing PAD in the morning <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on January 11, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
red has basically worse options in every category there except maybe delay if you run ecchi and def ignore if you're red prongs (AKA bad red)

For def-ignore Red has rodin
Delay red has Cao Cao

Though the main point is still that green is the only colour that even needs to waste a spot on bind healer for arena rather than how great their pool is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2016, 05:50:00 PM
For def-ignore Red has rodin
Delay red has Cao Cao

Though the main point is still that green is the only colour that even needs to waste a spot on bind healer for arena rather than how great their pool is.

rodin sux

cao cao is -still- red prongs

i don't really feel like arguing that point since it seems minor in the grand scheme of things and i don't really care about arena, but you're pretty off base with red imo

red's kinda a weak color these days, especially because we're -still- kinda split when we should be all inning on rows
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Thaws on January 11, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
I'm actually not familiar with how green fares against arena because I opt for Hathor personally.

The green being weakest for arena Opinion are stuff I got from reading jp opinions and my frd who's been suffering by doing arena with Freyja/Silvi

I started this convo replying to trance's statement of red being weakest for challenge and arena so yeah, by no means am I saying red is faring better than green in general.

Anyhow arena is being renewed so all this talk about old arena is moot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2016, 06:03:04 PM
Anyhow arena is being renewed so all this talk about old arena is moot.

p.much

especially since they plan to renew it constantly, so we'll all get a turn at getting rekt

gungho hates us all equally!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 11, 2016, 06:17:00 PM
Who are the main leaders for Red at this point? Awoken Shiva suffers from "rows where?", and Shivadora still doesn't have the best sub pool aside from orb changers I think?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 11, 2016, 06:34:50 PM
p.much

especially since they plan to renew it constantly, so we'll all get a turn at getting rekt

gungho hates us all equally!

old arena is turning into a guerilla, so shots can still be taken at it when we get there, just not leisurely.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 11, 2016, 07:03:45 PM
guess who utterly trivializes kaguya

(http://i.imgur.com/YBOmW84.jpg)

return of dmeta
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 11, 2016, 07:18:26 PM
Awoken Amaterasu also laughs at everything Kaguya has to offer.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2016, 07:21:26 PM
Who are the main leaders for Red at this point? Awoken Shiva suffers from "rows where?", and Shivadora still doesn't have the best sub pool aside from orb changers I think?

raoh/freyr is really probably the best thing I'd say red has right now

but you'll more commonly see 'i am a whale with shivadora' or 'i'm still using a.shiva because we really don't have anything that works as well. please send help gungho.'
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 11, 2016, 07:26:55 PM
Wouldn't Raoh also count as "whale" lead (or just incredibly lucky) since he's a collaboration gold?

I guess people can just get Freyr and leech off a Raoh friend.

Though I'm legit surprised that Raoh is this strong to begin with.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 11, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
Wouldn't Raoh also count as "whale" lead (or just incredibly lucky) since he's a collaboration gold?

I guess people can just get Freyr and leech off a Raoh friend.

Though I'm legit surprised that Raoh is this strong to begin with.

he does which is why the field is much more shivadora or a.shiva in the end

but his subpool is legit fantastic imo

chiyome/belilal/leilan is a strong core for changing and his main problem is utility which is just where red never wins anyway

and there's plenty of backup options across attacker and devil

raoh was really sleeper because he never impressed me before and i considered him mediocre but his ult really made him worth it so you're not alone
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 11, 2016, 08:13:28 PM
ngl this is why I like Awoken Astaroth so much-- she's literally green Raoh but not quite as broken due to lower overall stats for her specific necessary types, which are more strict by default seeing that green row devils are fairly uncommon (hell, green is a primarily tpa color) and healers are more squishy and less punchy than red devils/attackers.

Buuuuut if you have a lot of usable units, she's scary as hell.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 12, 2016, 12:19:32 AM
Aren't most leads, "if you have the right subs they're fantastic?"

It just happens that most of red rows is either attacker or devil. Except Yamato Takeru, Uriel, and Gadius.

I'm at 15 Scarlets in my box so far. But... no skillup chance boosts today. Whelp.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2016, 01:42:11 AM
When you put it that way, you might as well just stick with Ra Dra forever...
I will until I can't

which could be soon

because holy shit arena 2 why

of course you'd put in illsix

of course gungho


oh well at least Indra is actually a lot less useful now so i dont have to give a shit about him anymore :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2016, 01:46:46 AM
>Ra Dra clears Arena 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-YWhMPzqU0)
>the key is to replace Isis...


>mfw i have no face
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 12, 2016, 01:55:19 AM
How the hell do you even do Scarlet wtf

I can't even pass the demons with I&I orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2016, 02:23:06 AM
How the hell do you even do Scarlet wtf

I can't even pass the demons with I&I orz

shout fight night really loudly and combo hard
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 12, 2016, 02:33:11 AM
I, uh,  use a fire row and change plus combos? Just using six fire orbs won't KO the fire demon.

But considering that this is with low-cost collaboration mobs with some of the highest ATK values in the game, I imagine getting past the wood demon with I&I is, uh, difficult.

Christ why do they have nearly 2 million HP and hit for 21000+ each though?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 12, 2016, 02:33:32 AM
How the hell do you even do Scarlet wtf

I can't even pass the demons with I&I orz

I'm with you, Gabriel can't kill the green one. Maybe if I got really lucky with skyfalls or a perfect opening board, but their stats are just too ultra-mega-turbobuffed over the normal demons AND I have next to no stats. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 12, 2016, 02:47:06 AM
wow wtf

not only is DQ Hera's preemptive 42k in arena 2

they upped her spawn rate to 1/3...


RIP Yomidra

You were good but not good enough


beelz spawn is pretty bad for him too

so 2/3 chance of a bad time

LMAO Shinrabanshiro collab to the rescue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-3ZSgzhelU)

Also Awoken Luci God killer carries so hard
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 12, 2016, 03:33:40 AM
i can't believe masterion just saved PAD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 12, 2016, 09:56:00 AM
I would just use Halloween ThothDet tbh, there's a free 20% dark reduction there!

Also welp I have reason to invest in Awoken Luci too

sorry z8 my badpys go elsewhere now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 12, 2016, 10:56:45 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/686862908521709568

geh... Time to de-ult my Bolmeteus I guess
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 12, 2016, 10:58:02 AM
i can't believe masterion just saved PAD

*look at his almost skillmaxed uevo'd Masterion*

*look at Shinrabansho's dungeon*

*evil grin*

EDIT: *look at TWO Eschamali*

*sad frown*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 12, 2016, 11:14:03 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/686862908521709568

geh... Time to de-ult my Bolmeteus I guess

who the hell is bolmeteus
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 12, 2016, 11:37:07 AM
who the hell is bolmeteus

Duel Masters collab (machine-heavy)...... JP-ONLY  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 12, 2016, 12:41:16 PM
who the hell is bolmeteus

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2166
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 12, 2016, 02:03:11 PM
Figures :v

Edit: yamato challenge win yay
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 12, 2016, 05:24:22 PM
I could have started Yamato Challenge yesterday, but

(http://imgur.com/kzFzwgG.jpg)

I was preoccupied. Waiting for a 2.5x skillup chance before I dump these girls.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 12, 2016, 06:27:42 PM
pls giv

How are you even doing that?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 12, 2016, 06:52:34 PM
Raoh (with Kiriko sub)... basically counters everything in the dungeon by being a low cost/high stat mob. Dark Hera spawned? Oh I have 35000 HP anyways. :/
Red Hera? Her attacks either give me fire orbs, or jammers which Raoh turns into fire.

Kiriko and Chiyome are guaranteed to hit level max by the time they reach Armadel, etc etc

I wish I could say I did this with Yomidora, but the only color that I can recommend bringing into the dungeon is fire. :c
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 12, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
It's a shame the dungeon would be hell for Raohstaroth. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 12, 2016, 10:35:57 PM
I have a red collab gold card too, I'll use her to do it!


...


Misato orz

(I'm sure she's great, as a sub. A sub for a team I don't have.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 12, 2016, 11:54:09 PM
Turns out, Batman does not have much trouble with Wadatsumi or Kaguya.

In slightly related news, I now have an Awoken Amaterasu to sit in my box and look cute!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 13, 2016, 02:06:44 AM
Just for those of you anticipating Coop dungeons,

The Coop Alts got some adjustments. The preemptive attacks are no longer death flag triggering, which is a great thing!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 03:22:45 AM
I don't know what made the difference, but my current Verdandi team had no trouble at all with Kaguya. I accidentally hit her from just below 50% to exactly 1% due to copious bullshit skyfalls, but even that didn't really slow me down (although if she had gotten some well-timed gravities I definitely would have lost, but she didn't).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 13, 2016, 04:54:16 AM
I have a red collab gold card too, I'll use her to do it!


...


Misato orz

(I'm sure she's great, as a sub. A sub for a team I don't have.)

I was actually thinking you could field Misato/Raoh on a mono red attacker team. Or subs with hybrid Devil/Machine :V

On a more serious note, how do people normally beat Scarlet without endless suffering?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 05:56:25 AM
I was actually thinking you could field Misato/Raoh on a mono red attacker team. Or subs with hybrid Devil/Machine :V

On a more serious note, how do people normally beat Scarlet without endless suffering?

Would that have enough HP to take black Hera's preemptive at that point though?

I don't think I have the subs for that, but I don't know, maybe I do.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on January 13, 2016, 07:12:09 AM
I did it. I got Alma. The only rare drop from shinra I don't have is the boss of the first dungeon, and I could not care less. I am done!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2016, 09:16:28 AM
Ult angels and hathor incoming, as well as gfe/valk buffs.

And we come one step closer to my Astaroth team's completion. Just need Freyja and Astaroth herself......


Edit: Hel descended incoming too.

Well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 09:31:17 AM
Angels, huh? Does that include husbando?

That's a lot of buffs to my teams all at once. Badass.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 13, 2016, 09:46:56 AM
kagoogs is a joke

(http://i.imgur.com/Pt5LolJ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/YTWEFzl.png)

Angels, huh? Does that include husbando?

That's a lot of buffs to my teams all at once. Badass.

All Angels 1 but Lucifer, and all Angels 2 but Rozuel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on January 13, 2016, 10:02:26 AM
I don't know what made the difference, but my current Verdandi team had no trouble at all with Kaguya. I accidentally hit her from just below 50% to exactly 1% due to copious bullshit skyfalls, but even that didn't really slow me down (although if she had gotten some well-timed gravities I definitely would have lost, but she didn't).

Can you show me, what your Verdandi Team looks like? I need some impressions. Since I have 3 Verdandi, already, the game wants me to play her, I guess.

Ult angels and hathor incoming, as well as gfe/valk buffs.
And we come one step closer to my Astaroth team's completion. Just need Freyja and Astaroth herself......
Edit: Hel descended incoming too.
Well.

Uh, so we get Freyja aswell. Also Hathor coming? Just another 6 weeks and I'll finally have Highschool Cheerleader Goddess of the Dead Ult Nephthys
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2016, 10:12:00 AM
New Descend Takemikazuchi incoming.

Light/water god/balanced, mediocre stats, switch active, 2xatk/2xrcv for balanced, resolve effect.

How very... bland.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 13, 2016, 11:13:45 AM
No Awakenings is nice because I can just play the game vanilla and rack up giant combos.

(http://i.imgur.com/LGnSwPZ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Pbk0d9x.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 12:27:01 PM
Can you show me, what your Verdandi Team looks like? I need some impressions. Since I have 3 Verdandi, already, the game wants me to play her, I guess.

(http://i.imgur.com/OutBS1x.jpg)

This team isn't great, it's definitely my least favorite of my normal teams. I mostly use it for farming, though it certainly can handle some  content in the right circumstances. Medjed should probably be on there, maybe replacing Susano depending on whether or not I need gratuitous bulk in a given dungeon. Sometimes I use a Bastet friend for extra damage.

Edit: I would strongly advise against using more than one Verdandi on your team and a friend, though. Two board changes is already bordering on too many in my opinion.

New Descend Takemikazuchi incoming.

Light/water god/balanced, mediocre stats, switch active, 2xatk/2xrcv for balanced, resolve effect.

How very... bland.

Huuuuuh... As a stall player and a fan of switch actives I want to say resolve with 2x recovery might be interesting, but the type requirement is too harsh and resolve still kind of sucks. I guess balance players can tell me if they have a use for that, but I'm guessing it's incredibly niche if at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2016, 01:23:02 PM
Honestly I think he's just a glorified evo mat for awoken JP 2.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on January 13, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
Edit: I would strongly advise against using more than one Verdandi on your team and a friend, though. Two board changes is already bordering on too many in my opinion.

I'm not sure what kind of Green team I should build. I have lots of good cards.
Verdandis, Osiris, Awoken Meimei, Awoken Freyja (soon), Green Valk, Alraune, Christmas Alraune :V
I wanted to focus the team on TPA, but I don't necessarily want to play another Chinese God as lead. I already use Haku as TPA for some dungeons (mainly because it is Skill Bind Immun), though the option to play it would be good, I guess. 3 Colour Resistance is pretty good in some dungeons. (Dark/Light/Green is the best Colour Resistance, in my opinion)
The only downsight is, I miss a proper orb enhancer for maximum damage potential.

I'm also thinking about building row water team. Either with Awoken I&I as lead, or with Sarasvati (semi row).
Have pretty good stuff here aswell. I&I, Karins, Gabriel, Muse (sorry Suikama), Blonia, Hermes, Poseidono, Andromeda (sorry ccool). But this might needs a lot of effort to get it running.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 02:10:02 PM
I'm not sure what kind of Green team I should build. I have lots of good cards.
Verdandis, Osiris, Awoken Meimei, Awoken Freyja (soon), Green Valk, Alraune, Christmas Alraune :V
I wanted to focus the team on TPA, but I don't necessarily want to play another Chinese God as lead. I already use Haku as TPA for some dungeons (mainly because it is Skill Bind Immun), though the option to play it would be good, I guess. 3 Colour Resistance is pretty good in some dungeons. (Dark/Light/Green is the best Colour Resistance, in my opinion)
The only downsight is, I miss a proper orb enhancer for maximum damage potential.

I'm also thinking about building row water team. Either with Awoken I&I as lead, or with Sarasvati (semi row).
Have pretty good stuff here aswell. I&I, Karins, Gabriel, Muse (sorry Suikama), Blonia, Hermes, Poseidono, Andromeda (sorry ccool). But this might needs a lot of effort to get it running.

Freyja is legit as fuck on a Verdandi team. You don't probably need an orb enhancer if you have her (although if you wanted one Armadel is honestly pretty solid on Verdandi and she's farmable).

And I don't give a shit about Amdromeda anymore, not now that I've seen the light of Snow White.

Edit: Maybe make an Osirks team though. He seems really cool. Maybe he would be too similar to Nepthys, but on paper he's one of my favorite green leads.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on January 13, 2016, 02:16:20 PM
Edit: Maybe make an Osirks team though. He seems really cool. Maybe he would be too similar to Nepthys, but on paper he's one of my favorite green leads.

Osiris is a Combo team, so the difference to Nephthys is already there. You are right, he might be interesting and I could pair him with Bastet (Medje could be used, but isn't really needed, with Awoken Freyja on the field)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 02:23:44 PM
I thought Nephthys was a combo god. Fair enough. Actually I was thinking all of the Egypt 2s were combo gods even though that obviously doesn't make sense because I already know that my favorite one, Hathor, is a rainbow god.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 13, 2016, 02:36:25 PM
Nephthys is, appropriately, sort of like "old Isis with Dark boosts" IIRC.  Ive played around wiyh her from time to time with my own Dark stuff when farming, she's p. cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 13, 2016, 02:47:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/J4fB2kW.png)

well those are SOME stats
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2016, 02:55:35 PM
They should give Astaroth a killer awakening because her stats and Luci's stats are almost the same :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on January 13, 2016, 03:16:07 PM
I thought Nephthys was a combo god. Fair enough. Actually I was thinking all of the Egypt 2s were combo gods even though that obviously doesn't make sense because I already know that my favorite one, Hathor, is a rainbow god.

Yeah, Nephthys is also a rainbow god. She only needs 3 colours to activate, but only gives x3 (like her Sis)
Though, because of her ability, you want to build a team, that has dark as main attribute.

Osiris and Nut are the combo leaders. All Egypt2 share the same HP and RCV bonus, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 05:10:53 PM
Apparently I never got around to clearing Dark Knight. I probably just assumed I didn't have a team because I don't play devils or physical, but so many things randomly have Devil that it was easy to throw together a Kalloween team for it. I'll have to do the coin version later too.

It pains me how almost good Gravis is. HP sticks are almost always good to have, and a sub that fills a bind clear slot while also being a heartbreaker has so much potential. His awakenings are trash though (not even full bind immunity, ugh) and clearing only a single turn of bind isn't actually that useful. The idea of a bind clearing heartbreaker still sounds incredible on paper, but they were waaaay too conservative with him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 13, 2016, 05:47:37 PM
Dat Luci..... someday i too will roll him  :X


(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-01-13-13-39-51_zpsmqx9vgqc.png)

Yamato Challenge cleared.  :)
Wadatsumi was a bit of a pain because my 2nd LKali isn't maxskilled yet so i had to juggle staying alive and stalling to have her up by the boss floor (maxskilled one was reserved for Cockatrice floor).

This means friday i'll have my own A.Lakshmi (need a sapphilit to unevo Noah.... why did i even waste jewels on her if she's basically a trophy? >_>)

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 13, 2016, 06:31:52 PM
Re: Bind clearing heartbreakers
Ccool, have you heard of the Dragon Swordsman series?

They are all like Gravis, but without his flaws so badly.  Unbindable, have a TPA I think, and clear TWO turns of binds as opposed to just the one.  (Also not negative RCV)  They also come in all five flavors.

The fact that they are REM and Gravis is not is probably why he got shorted so much.  He did get tons of HP though as you noted.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 06:34:20 PM
Oh shit, yeah I forgot about them because I've never pulled one and I rarely see them or hear people talking about them. I'd love to have them. Do they have a heart row?

Edit: Assuming they're all the same they don't have a heart row, but they do have a skillboost and a prong. Sucky stats, but I think that's inevitable. Do want, at least to try them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 13, 2016, 06:41:39 PM
>most of aa 1.0 already, but no rozzy

g-gungho, why
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 13, 2016, 07:30:36 PM
Rozzy came last in JP too so I guess that makes sense, much as it sucks for those waiting on her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Janitor Morgan on January 13, 2016, 08:12:10 PM
Event post is up. Highlights:

-- 5x techs + 20x number dragons + Elia/Grisar
-- a tama dungeon each day for nine days, giving a stone on each clear
-- Hel + probably either Heimdall or Volsungr in addition
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 13, 2016, 08:15:52 PM
So what's the thing people usually do with boosted number dragons? As I recall they drop a lot of enhance material that can't have +eggs, so are they worth it? And which is the best one?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 13, 2016, 08:45:32 PM
So what's the thing people usually do with boosted number dragons? As I recall they drop a lot of enhance material that can't have +eggs, so are they worth it? And which is the best one?

20x is only a small bonus for anyone trying to farm latents that way, and with that new guerilla now existing it's just not an attractive proposition.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 13, 2016, 09:20:14 PM
This is a very good event.

Quote
■① Daily Login Bonuses

1/15 - 1/24 - 6,000 Pal Points per day

:getdown:

Also, Hel means soon it will be LOKI TIME.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 13, 2016, 09:34:41 PM
Oh, good, 2.5x skill up chance.

I don't have to wait too long on my 21 Scarlets, 15 Armadels, and 12 Hera-Ur/Heras.

These girls are so space consuming in my monster box.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 13, 2016, 11:31:05 PM
Impressive. I like this event. (pls giv Freyja on Hel day ;; )
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 14, 2016, 12:11:12 AM
Pal points and stones and TAMAs all over the place.  I approve.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 12:34:44 AM
Are we getting the New Years REM too? I mean, we pretty much have to at this point, right? We're getting pretty well into the month.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2016, 12:40:15 AM
That might be next event, for Chinese New Year in early February.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 14, 2016, 02:12:13 AM
so apparently neptunedra > yomidra for arena 2 lol thanks to poison being actually useful
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 14, 2016, 05:34:38 AM
1 rush solo down...

(http://i.imgur.com/U2QNA8t.png) (http://i.imgur.com/rvuhDgS.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 14, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=461 (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=461)

YOUR RECKONING HAS COME, GAIA!  >:(

of course this had to come out when i just finished preparing my own Gaia team  :V

oh well, free stones are free stones
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 14, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=461 (http://JUDGEMENT DAY FOR DRAGGIE/TENGU/GAIA!)

And they will also give stones again for clearing, too!  :D

Don't miss the fine print. They will be adjusting the dungeons to accommodate for this change.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 14, 2016, 10:27:37 AM
Don't miss the fine print. They will be adjusting the dungeons to accommodate for this change.

Still better than being forced to setup AND level up an entire team just to clear something you may not even use
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2016, 10:35:40 AM
Oh shit awoken Freyja is in the update

All that remains is Astaroth :>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 12:00:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jsEyF0k.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on January 14, 2016, 12:12:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jsEyF0k.jpg)

Male or female :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2016, 12:31:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/QBlRLeI.jpg)

That atk tho

(what latents should he get, hmmmmm)


God I need so many tamas

Good thing tama guerrilla is today!

Also man Gabe is the prettiest hasubando in PAD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2016, 12:46:45 PM
Weird things found in the NA client and may be subject to speculation...

-PADBT Stuff...

-Leo/Cancer/Capricorn/Taurus/Aries Charge - Changes Water+Heal/Wood+Heal/Fire+Heal/Dark+Heal/Light+Heal to their respective element, and Haste 1. Supposedly skills for the next pantheon???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2016, 01:03:39 PM
I see we're sticking with the constellation theme? :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2016, 01:27:49 PM
Better detailed rundown of the strange information by UPC himself (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/threads/some-random-tidbits-from-na-v8-5-client.87659/)

And there it is... the King PreDRA. I was worried there was going to be something bigger... now the question is how high will they make people jump for it?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 02:11:19 PM
Please excuse my ignorance, but what happened to alt dungeons? I need a shitload of Bubpys for Alrescha so I was thinking I might start running alts again later after Tamadra Town, but it looks like they're just gone.

Male or female :V

There is no doubt in my mind that husbando is man.

Also man Gabe is the prettiest hasubando in PAD

Thanks I know. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2016, 02:20:00 PM
I just mathed it out and if I went 100% hp latents on Awoken Astaroth team, with her hp boost taken into account, it would add almost 3000 hp. Dang.

On the other hand, Valk and Mikey would get much bigger benefits from atk or RCV latents, both being able to pass 1000 RCV with them. Hmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 14, 2016, 02:20:55 PM
Please excuse my ignorance, but what happened to alt dungeons? I need a shitload of Bubpys for Alrescha so I was thinking I might start running alts again later after Tamadra Town, but it looks like they're just gone.

Alt dungeons are no more.  They are being rolled into coop dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 14, 2016, 02:21:42 PM
Please excuse my ignorance, but what happened to alt dungeons? I need a shitload of Bubpys for Alrescha so I was thinking I might start running alts again later after Tamadra Town, but it looks like they're just gone.

Welcome to the great period of "You Lost Alt Coins, Wait Til Coop Comes to Get Them Back"

JP didn't have alts in coin dungeon rotations for pretty much the entire latter half of 2015 until Coop was oficially done.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2016, 02:26:38 PM
Thankfully challenge dungeons are fairly consistent to get that py fix. (challenge descended with double pys where tho)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 14, 2016, 02:34:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Syr3Re6.png)

Alas. I require more investment and training to be able to defeat Devil Rush Mythical Plus solo.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 02:36:29 PM
So how exactly do coop alts work? Doesn't that make them complete trash for farming? I tend to do alts only under very specific circumstances based on the time of day it is, how much stamina I have, and how far I have until rank up. Finding a partner quickly during those extremely specific times is going to be nearly impossible. Or is there some kind of partner matchmaking? Or are they still plausible to run solo?

And yeah, challenge descends would be great, but mostly we just get more trash jewels lately. At the very least I want some snowglobes, since I'm back to having none at all, but Yamato Challenge didn't even have those. The reward may as well be carbuncles at this point for how much I need more jewels.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 14, 2016, 02:41:04 PM
So how exactly do coop alts work? Doesn't that make them complete trash for farming? I tend to do alts only under very specific circumstances based on the time of day it is, how much stamina I have, and how far I have until rank up. Finding a partner quickly during those extremely specific times is going to be nearly impossible. Or is there some kind of partner matchmaking? Or are they still plausible to run solo?

They recently got nerfed so that they're now a complete joke to run solo

Also you can run any floor any time for as long as you want since theyre permanent fixtures
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
if only I wasn't scrub at combos, the top 10 noniap dream could be mine

(http://i.imgur.com/BHph6HZ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/uJdbuRz.png)

So how exactly do coop alts work? Doesn't that make them complete trash for farming? I tend to do alts only under very specific circumstances based on the time of day it is, how much stamina I have, and how far I have until rank up. Finding a partner quickly during those extremely specific times is going to be nearly impossible. Or is there some kind of partner matchmaking? Or are they still plausible to run solo?

You are allowed to play them solo, but they're notably harder than the ones we knew. You may also pair up with anyone as long as you know their room number.

HP spike teams will be fine, and they no longer cost coins to run or have a one hour timer, so you're more free to run them in exchange.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 03:11:40 PM
Thanks for the info.

Also shit, I forgot about the ranking dungeon. I guess I can use any stamina that would have gone to alts on that mess instead. I still do not have a ranking dungeon team at all. The only new team I have since last time is Neptune Dragon and he's completely unsuitable. Maybe I can get away with using Verdandi I guess.

Edit: Wait, are there no restrictions on this one? I thought it would be no actives or no awakenings but I don't see anything. There's not much preemptive trolling this time so maybe Ra would be okay.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 04:29:56 PM
For anyone wondering how hard: Approximately this hard.

(http://i.imgur.com/kazYZsi.jpg)

This is probably a liiittle on the low end actually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 14, 2016, 05:32:30 PM
>Tengu Condition change from 12 cost or lower to 1.5x stats to Balanced cards

WHAT LIVES MUST DIE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 14, 2016, 05:55:16 PM
>Tengu Condition change from 12 cost or lower to 1.5x stats to Balanced cards

WHAT LIVES MUST DIE

I think there are more people happy for this change to conditionals than for the new uevos  :D

Chirei, I'll wait for the screenshot with Alraune dealing >2M by herself to Tengu
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 14, 2016, 07:19:43 PM
(http://imgur.com/cNBH7ay.jpg)

Raoh has gotten me "close enough".

Max skilled Laila is helping a lot. Being able to get a free "skip wave" active twice is pretty strong.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Chaore on January 14, 2016, 07:41:37 PM
>Tengu Condition change from 12 cost or lower to 1.5x stats to Balanced cards

WHAT LIVES MUST DIE

brb chiyome shitposting in tengu
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Edible on January 14, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
All those shitty conditionals are getting a refresh, which means a new stone can be earned, which means you should clear out the old ones while you can (if you haven't already).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2016, 08:11:43 PM
(http://imgur.com/UhJ6TkH.jpg)

That was pretty close to a perfect run and my score still sucks. I don't know what else I can do, so I guess I'm just bad at PAD. Probably won't be doing any more runs because I literally don't think I can do better than this. Maybe I'll try it with a different team later, but probably not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 14, 2016, 08:23:45 PM
It's not worth it.  Ranking as it is now is garbage, the end.

I have a team that OULD work if key members were leveled/evod/skilled, bit I have no way tp fix it in time and that same team will probably be invalidated by the third one so it doesnt evem feel worth bothering.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 14, 2016, 10:21:36 PM
59% on first try with AYomi. All I want is a solid 20-29%.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 14, 2016, 10:43:44 PM
> enter Ranking dungeon with A.Kirin
> 1 floor ---> orbtrolled ---> LKali to ohko
> 2 floor ---> orbtrolled ---> Cruel War blinds me with 80% blind-resist ---> 1 turn to clear the blind ---> orbtrolled (light) ---> Valk to ohko
> 3 floor ---> orbtrolled ---> 2nd Lkali to ohko
> 4 floor ---> ORB-FUCKING-TROLLED FOR 4 TURNS STRAIGHT ---> 3k hp remaining ---> clear the floor hoping for heart skyfall
> 5 floor ---> 3.8k pre-emptive kill me

I got non-activable boards for EIGHT ******* TURNS IN A ROW

My reaction was....... not suitable for minors

Never cared much for the ranking but this definitely kills even the small amount i previously had....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on January 15, 2016, 12:04:17 AM
91k mmh with Haku, did way to many combos, gonna try a different team later
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 03:34:29 AM
I guess I should have assumed this, but turns out super ultimate Gabriel on Neptune Dragon is... good. I gained three rows between him and Reine with this update, and his new super-high attack means he hits waaaaaaaay harder than he did before.

So what's this Neptune Dragon team that clears the new Ultimate Arena, anyway? Is it a really specific build, or do I have a shot at it with my team?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 15, 2016, 03:36:28 AM

So what's this Neptune Dragon team that clears the new Ultimate Arena, anyway? Is it a really specific build, or do I have a shot at it with my team?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIfm5jiL2gs

orochi is basically mandatory, but you can try it with SQ I suppose...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 04:04:09 AM
I do have Orochi. He's not hypermax or even evolved, and I don't have the Bubpys for him right now, but I do have him.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2016, 04:05:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIfm5jiL2gs

orochi is basically mandatory, but you can try it with SQ I suppose...

...I have all those subs.

Hm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 04:08:11 AM
Do iiiiit get NepDra so we can do co-ops!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2016, 04:22:14 AM
Well, my water team was my next 10x goal. Maybe.

Awoken FA Luci is very, very tempting too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 15, 2016, 04:22:54 AM
Awoken FA Luci is very, very tempting too.

Awoken FA Luci also dumpsters Arena 2.0 and is one of the more common leads for it.

It's really up to you though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2016, 04:30:26 AM
well i mean

fa luci doesn't cost 300k
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 15, 2016, 04:54:05 AM
well i mean

fa luci doesn't cost 300k

That is a fair point, but both of them are pretty similar in terms of usage.

Personally I'd recommend A.FA Luci mostly because Dark is a stronger and more popular colour.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 05:02:00 AM
No, don't listen! Play blue, the stupid color for idiots! It's basically just worse in every way than black and that makes it coooool!

Don't, uh, feel like you have to buy NepDra though. He is expensive...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2016, 05:24:36 AM
I dunno, seeing Gabriel hit for 7.2 million damage in that video looked incredibly gratifying.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 15, 2016, 05:45:51 AM
I dunno, seeing Gabriel hit for 7.2 million damage in that video looked incredibly gratifying.

Not really shilling against NepDragon in any sense, but once you get him you better be committed to blue otherwise you wasted 300k MP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 05:47:48 AM
My record right now for Gabriel's damage on Neptune Dragon is 6.6 million. That was after only a few tries though. I should throw Muse on there for a few runs just to do it.

Edit: I just looked at the upcoming challenge dungeons, and is floor seven seriously no hearts but with Awoken Sopdet? So it's just a coin flipping contest to see if you get massive skyfalls and instantly lose every turn? That sounds fuuuuuuun.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Dorakyura on January 15, 2016, 10:13:19 AM
Edit: I just looked at the upcoming challenge dungeons, and is floor seven seriously no hearts but with Awoken Sopdet? So it's just a coin flipping contest to see if you get massive skyfalls and instantly lose every turn? That sounds fuuuuuuun.

That sucks, Floor 7 was the one floor that I never had real problems with. If they start to no heart this aswell, I will cry. I freaken hate no heart.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 15, 2016, 10:24:57 AM
That sucks, Floor 7 was the one floor that I never had real problems with. If they start to no heart this aswell, I will cry. I freaken hate no heart.

If there are no big pre-emptives i kind of like these dungeons, mainly because A.Kirin roflstomp them even if you don't want to....
Sopdet IS kind of a problem, but only because i usually skyfall WORLD-WRECKING amounts of damage only when i shouldn't or it doesn't matter.

I'm still trying to understand how making one 3-orbs match ended up with a 12-hit combo (happened to me this very night and OF COURSE this was on the 2nd floor of Endless while i was trying to evaluate a new team setup  :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 15, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
(http://imgur.com/ZpUNlCW.jpg)

Twenty skillup attempts on 2.5x rates... led to a perfectly average, yet satisfying result.

Is her active skill name bugged out for anyone else, though?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2016, 01:44:11 PM
(http://imgur.com/ZpUNlCW.jpg)

Twenty skillup attempts on 2.5x rates... led to a perfectly average, yet satisfying result.

Is her active skill name bugged out for anyone else, though?

It's not just you, though there have been quite a few typos and oddities lately... might want to send in a ticket to support to help the server out.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on January 15, 2016, 03:55:40 PM
(https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B0k2U6aV60UXdWQtNndSd1IwTjg)
It's been 293 days since I started playing, and now I can say that I've finally "unlocked" all the dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 15, 2016, 05:43:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aEw0IMC.jpg)

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SOON


(http://i.imgur.com/AcKBZNZ.jpg)


[HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH INTENSIFIES]

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 15, 2016, 05:46:38 PM
Damn, I can't get a second Dub-emelit to evolve my Vishnu, I was lucky and cleared the friday dungeon one time, but can't do it again...  :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 06:05:16 PM
There are ways to clear Friday Dungeon with nearly any team. Try pairing up with a friend who gives x2 HP, or a green Odin friend. Those strategies aren't 100% reliable, but if you're careful it should work most of the time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 15, 2016, 06:22:48 PM
Akala, out of curiosity: do you have personal friends that play PAD?

I'm asking because since you are still in the early part of the game you could start anew in the NA server and have all of us to play with. I myself am european but since i don't know anyone that play PAD i have no interest in starting an EU account.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Tea Devil on January 15, 2016, 07:10:41 PM
Exp tama dungeon got me over rank 150, so I pulled Apollo in the memorial machine! Wowzers.

It's been way too long since I pulled something good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2016, 07:11:37 PM
weak!

(http://i.imgur.com/GawXs6S.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7wORZ5r.png) (http://i.imgur.com/jKl6Pi5.png) (http://i.imgur.com/MBjkoij.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 15, 2016, 07:30:48 PM
Akala, out of curiosity: do you have personal friends that play PAD?

I'm asking because since you are still in the early part of the game you could start anew in the NA server and have all of us to play with. I myself am european but since i don't know anyone that play PAD i have no interest in starting an EU account.

Not really, but I have no idea how to make a NA account from EU on iOS.. (and damn, I'll need to reroll again :'( ) But if there is a way to do so, it would be nice yeah

For the friday dungeon, I tried with Ogre + low hp sub + Echidna friend, but got rekt on the Dub trio (maybe bad luck for not having 5 orbs to match...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 07:46:11 PM
For the friday dungeon, I tried with Ogre + low hp sub + Echidna friend, but got rekt on the Dub trio (maybe bad luck for not having 5 orbs to match...)

You can always bring a monster with a poison active (Lilith, or any number of collab monsters) or a fixed damage actives (Mystic Mask) as a panic button for if you roll a floor where everything is on a low cooldown.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on January 15, 2016, 07:52:24 PM
I'll need to reroll again :'( )
There's a godfest tomorrow and Sunday, there's not a better time. You should come join us! You can still keep your EU account, I think a few people here have a secondary JP account just cause, though for content probably.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 15, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
There's a godfest tomorrow and Sunday, there's not a better time. You should come join us! You can still keep your EU account, I think a few people here have a secondary JP account just cause, though for content probably.

Well, that's good news, I just need to find how to make an NA account now ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: OverlordChirei on January 15, 2016, 08:15:07 PM
Well, that's good news, I just need to find how to make an NA account now ;)

I've asked somebody elsewhere, and apparently when you go to make one, you just google a US address and number and use that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 15, 2016, 08:24:34 PM
I've asked somebody elsewhere, and apparently when you go to make one, you just google a US address and number and use that.

You're speaking about an Apple Account right ? Does that may cause some issues with my already installed app ?

edit : maybe I should just wait Espadas to came back.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 15, 2016, 08:35:27 PM
Tomorrow's godfest is great if you want to change to NA, since it's Egyptian 1 and Horus/Isis/Bastet are some of the best starters.

Also, Angel 1.0 so you can go and uh

Go play for CCool's team.

Cause Gabriel is cool.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 15, 2016, 08:40:41 PM
Uh, i really wish i could help you but i have Android, not iOS.

I'll look around and edit this if i find something.  ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: aUsernameIsFineToo on January 15, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
You're speaking about an Apple Account right ?
Try this (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201389) procedure to change your iTunes account to the U.S. region.

Does that may cause some issues with my already installed app ?
Note that if you have any purchased apps they will become unavailable from the store after you change your store region.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Espadas on January 15, 2016, 08:54:19 PM
This was in another forum where an US player wanted to play EU too. Maybe you can reverse the procedure?

"You have to get an iTunes Europe account which if you try to do it through anything other than a pic will require a credit card or gift card but if you create the account through iTunes on a pc you have the option to select none for payment option. When you log in to the account later from your phone it'll switch you over to the uk iTunes Store where you can download the eu pad"


EDIT: as for PAD in the US iTunes ---> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/puzzle-dragons-english/id563474464?mt=8 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/puzzle-dragons-english/id563474464?mt=8)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 08:55:22 PM
Tomorrow's godfest is great if you want to change to NA, since it's Egyptian 1 and Horus/Isis/Bastet are some of the best starters.

Also, Angel 1.0 so you can go and uh

Go play for CCool's team.

Cause Gabriel is cool.

It's midnight gala though, so odds favor uncool trash like Lucifer. And, uh, Anubis.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 15, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
Me 1 - 0 Apple  :V

Just needed to create an US account (with fake adresse etc.), seems to work fine, I search Espadas' friend ID and it found him, so I guess I'm on the NA server !

Thanks a lot people ! I'll start rerolling now, will add you as friend (if you're ok to) once I get a good leader (RIP dear Vishnu)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 10:17:11 PM
Actually if you don't mind waiting, don't reroll now. Wait for ten hours and roll during the godfest, you'll get more gold eggs.

Alternately, don't reroll at all, start playing now, and try to grab as many early-game magic stones as you can, plan on doing a few rolls tomorrow, and cross your fingers for multiple gods. I believe we're having two days worth of godfests, so you should be able to get a handful of rolls this weekend.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Akala on January 15, 2016, 10:30:38 PM
Yeah that makes sense !
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mеа on January 15, 2016, 11:30:40 PM
If you stay patient at it, what you get is essentially a free pick from any of the featured pantheons/ god fest exclusives. So in the time you have, I would suggest checking them out, both days, read through their skills then pick the one you want and steel your iron determination to preserve to roll it. If the one you pick is on day two, I would suggest saving a couple rolls worth of stones on day one and back up that save file to reload on day 2 to try get the one you actually want*. I know you can do that on android and even skip the tutorial, not sure on ios though.

*ie: make multiple back up oneshot save files to use on day two, or one even.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 15, 2016, 11:48:16 PM
For the record, personally I strongly recommemd against doing that. Rerolling isn't nec!ssary, ane even during a godfest your odds of pulling any given god are pretty low. I've put dozens upon dozens of pulls into certain godfests looking for a particular card, and even with the correct gala on my side I didn't get what I wanted. That way lies madness (and boredom, and time wasted that could be spent gathering more different, non-specific gods).

Edit: Note that I'm not saying Mea is wrong, you COULD totally do that. It would work, eventually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2016, 02:12:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/n8FqgAe.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ug0ATSH.png)

welcome, my goddess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2016, 02:16:47 AM
so close to loki nowww
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on January 16, 2016, 02:28:12 AM
I mean, if you want to be super efficient while still being newb-friendly, you could very easily go Isis or Bastet, both of which are super good early game leaders, the latter of which is an amazing lategame leader and the former an amazing lategame sub.

You could also go Horus for much, much more earlygame power but less lategame power in return. You'd also probably have to stick with his F/L form until you can safely make him Awoken.

And uh, not to scare you or anything, but his F/L form gave me PTSD. Just saying.

All three options are great though, since you have me for a good Horus Friend, Suikama for a good Isis friend and I'm pretty sure everyone here but me has an Awoken Bastet to help you out.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2016, 02:40:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/h4reTjR.jpg)

Get killed, mean lady.

That took way longer than it should have since the background gave my phone horrific slowdown. All recent dungeons have been doing that. My Galaxy SII never had any trouble, but my Galaxy SIII really seems to hate PAD. I know the backgrounds are getting a little more involved, but still.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2016, 02:44:21 AM
wow so apparently locked orbs can prevent dkali active from giving you a guaranteed board

originally i thought it would still be guaranteed as long as you have 21 unlocked orbs but nope the locked orbs basically still count as 'getting changed'
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 16, 2016, 02:57:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/h4reTjR.jpg)

Get killed, mean lady.

That took way longer than it should have since the background gave my phone horrific slowdown. All recent dungeons have been doing that. My Galaxy SII never had any trouble, but my Galaxy SIII really seems to hate PAD. I know the backgrounds are getting a little more involved, but still.

Have you killed the background effects in the options yet? My old phone used to be murdered by the rain effects in Zaerogoo's dungeon until I turned that shit off.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: commandercool on January 16, 2016, 03:01:26 AM
wow so apparently locked orbs can prevent dkali active from giving you a guaranteed board

originally i thought it would still be guaranteed as long as you have 21 unlocked orbs but nope the locked orbs basically still count as 'getting changed'

So just a single locked up potentially ruins Kalis? Good to know I guess. That's worrying.

Have you killed the background effects in the options yet? My old phone used to be murdered by the rain effects in Zaerogoo's dungeon until I turned that shit off.

I think so, although maybe they got turned back on. There was some still some stuff moving in the background so I'll have to check again. It's a shame to miss out on the pretty graphics, but I'd rather have performance than graphics any day.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 16, 2016, 03:21:21 AM
Possibly having something to deal with Raoh converting poison to fire, but Hel gave me a pleasantly okay time instead of a bad time.

Turns out Yomidora is an awful leader to use in Wadatsumi.

:|
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2016, 04:10:34 AM
metalit descended incoming thanks to twitch votes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Ruka on January 16, 2016, 04:18:23 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/h4reTjR.jpg)
That took way longer than it should have since the background gave my phone horrific slowdown. All recent dungeons have been doing that. My Galaxy SII never had any trouble, but my Galaxy SIII really seems to hate PAD. I know the backgrounds are getting a little more involved, but still.
You too? I thought it was just me. Using Xperia Z3 compact.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Jq1790 on January 16, 2016, 04:58:21 AM
Possibly having something to deal with Raoh converting poison to fire, but Hel gave me a pleasantly okay time instead of a bad time.

Turns out Yomidora is an awful leader to use in Wadatsumi.

:|
>uses a popcorn leader
>doesn't expect Wada to ruin his day

Poor FF. 

(I've done worse, like putting a Karin team together and forgetting to include dark anywhere, haha)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: trancehime on January 16, 2016, 06:23:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/f8WEJp9.png)

h o l y s h i t  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: Suikama on January 16, 2016, 06:37:52 AM
congrats :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: The Greatest Dog on January 16, 2016, 11:14:10 AM
I got... Freyr, Persephone #2, and Saria.

You know what. Freyr is like exactly what I need to turn Raoh's damage into overkill. It might not be what I need but I'll take it.

For both Zaerogoo and Yomidora. I would gladly field a second Persephone over a second Byakko.

What do with Saria?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread XXVI - Everyday Christmas With Monster Musume
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on January 16, 2016, 11:19:49 AM
Find an Awoken Zeus friend, obviously. The dragonbound girls and Awoken Norse are a perfect match.

And as someone with two hypermax awoken Norse, I can vouch that they make perfect overkill buttons.

Also, time for a new thread. Go make one!