You are Juri Arisugawa, the prim-and-proper fencing club captain. You let nothing past your defenses...or, at least, you try your very hardest to do so. But fate has an infuriating way of intervening...
You are a Slow Cop, aligned with the town.
- Non-Miracle Worker: Your connections as a student council member allow you to check into suspicious individuals. Once per night, you may ##Investigate a target. You will be told the alignment of your target. However, due to the irritating nature of red tape, the results of your investigation will be delayed a night (i.e. a Night 1 investigation will have results in Day 3). Your investigations are guaranteed to be Sane, at least.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated. Good luck!
Prims is gay.
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Also, Conq, did you target me and get a fail message or what?I didn't want to waste it on you if all it would do is fail. :V Logic being that if you're town you're telling the truth and if you're scum you're probably an ascetic or something.
Um is it bad if I'd rather have conq alive then rou alive with a result.it is, i wanted to relax and not post in/worry about mafia and a definitive result on prims would have been gold since im pretty sure framer/tailor wouldnt have been messing with the results plus not having to worry about prims etc
I can't be ascetic cuz Rou successfully targeted meAlso it would depend on if Kilga would have told him that his action failed immediately or if he had to wait the extra phase.
S'okay, Prims is just channeling the inner Serela in all of us.See my speculation. The strongman and the poisoner are likely the same person, with the strongman being ##Charged into getting an extra kill. That's the kind of action I would require a charge for in any case.
fwiw I agree the vig reaction is a null tell in general, but it'd depend on how SB's reacted in the past to being stuff like sacrificial vigbait. Maybe SB/Prims can answer that?
Also what's the setup as we know it? Captain Planet, slow cop, gimped hammer doc, namecop, actioncop, insomniac maker/announcer/chicagovoter vs Rolecloppingroleblockingframer/poisoner/strongmanorsomethinglikethat?
also Prims claim is kinda weird.
he's like an ability cop since he got "caffinator" yet can also tell if someone is vanilla?
he learns the name of an ability anyway and I suppose he said SB was vanilla because lack of one... yet were he to have targeted BBM... there are like 3+ abilities there, what would he have gotten back?
actually yeah.
Conq was caffinator an ability name or your er.. I don't really know what to call it; the equivalent of BBM's "scum spy" title?
not to mention their team was 1-shot day vig / BP / 2-shot ninja vs GF / Encryptor / Roleclop.
If the first team doesn't utterly destroy the 2nd 99/100 times then I don't know balance and I'll eat a hat
One of them is probably a strongman who can be charged for the extra kill.Strongman makes no sense in a setup that has a superconditional doc and nothing else. Yet it's likely that we did actually see a strongman kill tonight.
That reminds me though, I don't really want Conq to die, and killing him seems like the next logical step if you're going to protect Rou. You should split your decision between the two. Flip a coin or something.Serela rightfully answers "what the fudge why should I risk losing that result" and Shadoweh's response is something about a slow cop being roughly the same as a confirmed townie? On what planet? It doesn't make sense that she'd read the situation like this unless she knew Rou wouldn't be a big factor.
OH MAI GAWD SHADOWEH OPENLY SUGGESTED NOT LETTING THE SCUM KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE DOC WOULD BE, WE MUST LYNCH HER IN THE LOVING MEMORY OF JURI-SAMA-PRINCESS-CHAN-MOFU-MOFUyou'd piece that together....what are you even talking about?
Should I target Dan tonight or is getting a result on Polly/BT/SB more important?
OH MAI GAWD SHADOWEH OPENLY SUGGESTED NOT LETTING THE SCUM KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE DOC WOULD BE, WE MUST LYNCH HER IN THE LOVING MEMORY OF JURI-SAMA-PRINCESS-CHAN-MOFU-MOFU
SB do you think the scum team of BT/BBM/Prims makes sense? I understand you're not going to nominate yourself obviously. The thing is your scumtean requires Prims to have cleared one of his few mislynches, so I'm not sure how you'd piece that together.
so yeah
2 of
Polaris/SB/BT/Prims. First guess is SB because stongmans = doc is weak = other claimed roles besides cop/doc = probably legit for the most part
i.e, Polaris/Prims are not both scum if any is.
so defacto lynches for the next two days should be SB/BT. of those I probably should read over the thread but SB's declaration of a Dan/Prims/BBM scum team screams "I'VE GOT NO OPTIONS" so. (also you can't seriously causally put me/BBM on the same team). So will like 80% be voting SB
one thing I don't get is why scum wouldn't just kill off Prims if Prims is town. then kill off Rou after.Why would scum kill off Prims if he is town? It's not like Rou or me are more lynchable and Prims wouldn't be a role threat since he can't even technically confirm himself 100%.
Prims, what about this game reminds you of Disgaea!BT as opposed to other games when he trailed off and was town; also wondering at which point you changed your mind on him since yesterday you were so sure of BT town that you brushed off Shadoweh's post on him with "lmao"?dont recall games where he trailed off as town
Polly is your main reason you're pushing SB his reaction to the vig claim?
i guess in addition to what i said above, why bbm/shadoweh/sb would ever make senseforgot to finish my thought
also bbm's drop of shadoweh that bt pointed out to be a scumbuddy interaction doesnt fit because the alternate wagon was bbm, who was probably the scum steroid role. in that case why wouldnt he distance harder by pushing on shadoweh?
Reasons to lynch BT over SB would be, possibly more likely to be scum, plus push on Shadoweh reads disingenuous and the back and forth pretty much reminds me of the endgame of C7D. Anyway I'm pretty sure the entire case on Shadoweh falls apart when you look at the N2 kills and say, would scum!Shadoweh make these kills (I know, pro argument).Well okay, I've been proven to be as charismatic as a rock with back-and-forths over the years, but what felt fake to you? Also what about the N2 kills? They don't sway me one way or another. If you really want to get into these sort of arguments, I would have no reason to specifically keep pushing Shadoweh right now unless I actually thought she was scum. Scum agenda would be to open up other options instead of digging a hole.
If you really want to get into these sort of arguments, I would have no reason to specifically keep pushing Shadoweh right now unless I actually thought she was scum. Scum agenda would be to open up other options instead of digging a hole.Could easily be doing it for various reasons, including focusing on Shadoweh will allow you to avoid giving detailed reads on SB/Prims/Polaris who are much more likely to be scum (I'm more interested in these reads, although you're welcome to continue this Shadoweh thing if you're absolutely sure that's the way to go), for the "why would I do this as town" aspect, because you think you have a good angle to ~*open up an option*~ with the Shadoweh lynch, etc. My main issue with your case (as for what feels fake about it) is that it holds fine if you're evaluating it purely objectively from say, a person who is given three statements and asked to make a conclusion from them, but I don't think it fits in the overall narrative.
Prims, did you have a basis for your BBM gutread and how good are you at reading him usually? Also, what was with the d2 godfather spec?I read BBM correctly more than not but it's not like 100%. I also rarely am town in games where he's scum I think?
Also vanilla scum is plausible if you believe that Serela disabled his own ability by claiming the ability and was just trying really hard to sound like he didn't. Which probably happened.actually this doesn't matter because Shadoweh's theory was that Poisoner/Strongman were in the same role anyway... which means SB being scanned vanilla doesn't mess with her theory... Did I miss something ???
The problem with SB scanning as vanilla is I don't think there's a vanilla scum. I supose any goon would still be able to charge but again, like, what would he be charging, just the one role? Eehh..Oh, damn, I forgot BBM didn't gain bonuses from being charged. That's actually a good point.
@Kilga: Is BBM's ##Charge a factional ability?
Maybe I should re-read my role PM :oomgggg cheeky scum lynch it with fire.
Or I guess SB could just become immune to my role or something. That seems contrived but "scum should be able to counter every town role in some way" is a real modding philosophy.See: BBM's role.
Polly is Scum 2 and learns the role PM of roles he catchesScum already have a limited shot rolecop via BBM. If you think they have multiple rolecops go nuts.
omgggg cheeky scum lynch it with fire.fun fact, after Angel Beats I made a vow to ONLY EVER USE REFUGE IN AUDACITY AS TOWN to spite Pesco, so if anything im confirmed town on meta. :)
Also, just checking, but Prims, did you ask what kind of roles would return a Vanilla result?
if I voted BT now.
it would be soley a POE vote because I haven't read a thing he's posted.
and I'd feel shitty.
You are Kozue Kaoru, the slutty, vaguely incestual sass factory. You act like you want to get into your brother's pants something fierce, though you're not above berating him. Maybe you're an S. Or just an asshole. Either way, you're too sketchy for anyone to trust you with anything special, so you're just a Vanilla Townie. Sux. :<
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Good luck!
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Actually, that's just what you want everyone to think.
You are actually a Scum Shaman, and your role is fairly complicated.
- The Ones Who Will Bring Revolution To The World: Your partner(s) in crime is/are (REDACTED). You may communicate at any time in (REDACTED). Once per night, in lieu of taking another night action, you may ##Kill a target, killing them (duh). Only one scum team member may take this action per night. In addition, you may ##Charge your/a partner at night, at which point they will be considered Charged. This counts as a night action. Charging happens immediately; night actions that require being Charged may be taken on the same night the action-taker gets Charged. You may not charge yourself.
- Big Brother Can't Watch This: You are sufficiently sneaky and manipulative that you may redirect night action efforts. Once per game, you may ##Bus Drive two targets at night. All other night actions that target one of the Bus Driven people will really target the other.
- Shut Up And Sleep With Me: Even for a relative youngster, you are quite breathtaking and you know it. Once per game, you may ##Constrict a target at night. That target will be so taken with you that they will be limited to 100 words every 24 game hours for the entire following day (300 words for the day total).
- Rigor Mortis: There's no in-flavor way to describe this, sorry. Once per game, you may ##Seance Summon a dead player at night. If a graveyard QuickTopic exists, you will be shown all of their posts within it up to the start of the following day, completely unedited. You must be Charged to use this ability.
- I Let My Boobs Devour Small Children: You love the Utena Text From Last Night blog. Once per game, you may ##Eradicate a player at night. This is a killing action, but does not count as the scum night kill. If the action is successful, the player will be flipped at the beginning of the day, but they will not actually die until the beginning of the following day, and they will also be granted night talk regardless of any other role they may have had. You must be Charged to use this ability.
You win when the scum team controls a majority of the game population or nothing can prevent same. Good luck!
I've tried reading all three of BBM, SB and Prims and didn't get that much out of it. There has to be at least one scum in here (or it's Dan which would be equally weird) so... sigh. I'll try again later. Cut by votals thanks Serela I wanted to do that.
-BT
@Mod: As per the flipped scum pm(s) can one scum both make the ##kill and ##charge a partner the same night?
@Mod: Would you consider ##Flavorcop and ##Namecop essentially the same action?
You are Touga Kiryuu, the redhead womanizer with the most perfect abs known to mankind. Despite your apparent willingness to use everyone around you as tools, you actually do have your heart in the right place. Your past simply wasn't very kind to you. Now you have a chance to help those you care about.
You are a Caffienator, aligned with the town.
- Sempai Noticed Me!: People of all sexualities throw themselves at your feet and will do anything you tell them to. You can reduce them to a pile of mush just by speaking a kind word to them. Once per day, you can bestow ##Insomnia on a player. That player will be so thrilled that you paid attention to them that they will be allowed to speak in the thread about the game the following night. You may not target the same person more than once over the course of the game. You may not target yourself.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated. Good luck!
Confirmed town baby
huh what, what does your role do besides getting the name of the person? Don't out the syntax, just explain why looking for a flavorcop or a namecop wouldn't work.I become immune to the target's role; I've said this already.
I don't blame you I blame Kilga :(
after all this there is still no way to know if BBM just happened to have Rolecloped Conq/Me N1/N2 for Prims to get his result T_T.It's true that we don't know this, but I'm really not sure that role would have been used to rolecop you and bofh. >_>
well youre the mafia so i dont really need a huge, comprehensive case when your lynch is going to end the game and nobody wants me dead first. i have explained why i found you suspicious before though.
shadoweh's px vote was bad because she sat on it the whole day without doing anything which isn't the context of mine. also i've given up on trying to look into role shenanigans because it could just be some weird counter to my role where you're not actually a goon, and going by play you're scummier than polly (useless votes during D2, minimal contribution since then)[/quote]
If you were scum in this situation what would you do? :V Past experience says you'd yell fuck it and give up. You know SB better, he seems like a lurker dood who probably wouldn't try to dig himself out of this, does he really seem like scum to you besides that he has to be quote unquote?The only people who are actually in a good position to win here are you and Polly. Do you think Polly is the scum?
eventually.
how am i coasting? if you flip town then i get held accountable for it the next day.
useless votes aren't scummy, but the lack of effort put into coordinating a lynch shows a lack of town effort. i'll grant you the activity issue but i tend to associate with "I know this guy is still playing because he contacted me" with "I know this guy is still playing because he posted in the scum quicktopic"
The only people who are actually in a good position to win here are you and Polly. Do you think Polly is the scum?
I think that as town he would've tried to actually do more D3 - D4, imo SB tends to be more memorable as town.
They probably scanned Serela because why else would they kill him, especially as BBM's main scumread iirc. I could try and reread Poly on my iPod although puppy wants attention atm so it may have to wait.They killed Zakeri and Raikaria, who were also their major scumreads though. Weird kill apparently was their motus operandi.
They killed Zakeri and Raikaria, who were also their major scumreads though. Weird kill apparently was their motus operandi.
ohnot plausibly, because:
maybe scum could have a second Roleclop but idek anymore.
You are Miki Kaoru, the mild-mannered, vaguely incestual pianist. You're too distracted thinking about your hot and infinitely more interesting younger sister to be of any real use, so you're just a Vanilla Townie. Sux. :<
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Good luck!
You are ChuChu, the...actually, what the fuck are you? A mouse...monkey...thing? No one really knows. What are you even doing here? You're not a duelist! Go home mouse monkey thing, you're drunk.
You are the Chen Gang, aligned with the town.
- Alchuholics Anonymous: Since you're so small, you can move around and leave notes for people undetected. Each night, you may ##Submit one message that is no longer than 300 words (Microsoft Word's word count function will be used to check) and send it in to me. It may contain whatever game-relevant information you desire unless it will break a game rule (such as pasting this PM). I will then post your message at the start of the next day without attaching a name to it.
You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. Good luck!
You are Wakaba Shinohara, the spunky, bubbly, unambiguously bisexual sidekick! Sadly, being the most ordinary character in the entire show has relegated you to simply being a Vanilla Townie. Sux. :<
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Good luck!
You are Utena Tenjou, the strong-willed, anti-patriarchy protagonist. You'll stop at nothing to end this game of death and set your friends free.
You are a Woman of Action, aligned with the town.
- Your Guess Is As Good As Mine: You are good at fixing problems despite not knowing why they're happening or what's really going on. Each night, you may ##Check for a certain night action command (such as ##Check). You will be told the following day how many people used that action, though you will not be told who specifically used it.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated. Good luck!
You are Keiko Sonoda, the pig-tailed, umbrella-toting lapdog. You have a huge crush on Touga Kiryuu and will endure anything you have to in order to be with him. Unfortunately, since you're largely relegated to being Nanami Kiryuu's gopher bitch, you never really have the time to do anything with yourself, so you're simply a Vanilla Townie. Sux. :<
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Good luck!
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Actually, that's just what you want everyone to think.
You are actually a Scum Asssassin, and your role is fairly complicated.
- Basic Bitches Unite!: Your partners in crime are Kozue Kaoru (BT) and Shiori Takatsuki (BigBangMeteor). You may communicate at any time in this (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gii4dVwWahc6f) QuickTopic. Once per night, in lieu of taking another night action, you may ##Kill a target, killing them (duh). Only one scum team member may take this action per night. In addition, you each may ##Charge a partner at night, at which point they will be considered Charged. This counts as a night action. Charging happens immediately; night actions that require being Charged may be taken on the same night the action-taker gets Charged. You may not charge yourself.
- Look, If You Had Just One Shot: Putting up with Nanami's bullshit for so long has given you exceeding amounts of willpower. Once per game, you may ##Hitman a player at night. This counts as the scum faction killing action, taking the place of ##Kill. A Hitman kill cannot be prevented by protective roles. You must be Charged to use this ability.
- Cleaning Up After Nanami's Messes: Putting up with Nanami's bullshit for so long has taught you how to properly clean up any sticky situation. Once per game, you may ##Janitor a player at night. This counts as the scum faction killing action, taking the place of ##Kill. A Janitor kill will not reveal the player's flip in the game thread, though it will still be posted in the scum Quick Topic. You must be Charged to use this ability.
- Nondescription: Putting up with Nanami's bullshit for so long has made you just another nameless face in the crowd, allowing you to blend into your surrounding more easily. Once per game, you may ##Shadowkill a player at night. This counts as the scum faction killing action, taking the place of ##Kill. When going on a Shadowkill, all night actions that target you will fail, and you will not be seen killing your target by any Watchers. You must be Charged to use this ability.
- Plot Significance: Putting up with Nanami's bullshit for so long has taught you how to survey your surroundings properly before launching into one of her moronic schemes that is likely to get you all seriously hurt. Once per game, you may ##Cautiouskill a player at night. This counts as the scum faction killing action, taking the place of ##Kill. When performing a Cautious kill, you will Watch your victim while killing them, observing all other players that targeted them that night. You must be Charged to use this ability.
- A Bold Move: Putting up with Nanami's bullshit for so long has strengthed your desire for Touga, so much so that you will make the first move on him. This isn't actually anything meaningful, I just felt like adding more bolded words to your role PM because there clearly aren't enough already.
You win when the scum team controls a majority of the game population or nothing can prevent same. Good luck!
Your poison kill sounds like it'd be useful to kill off obvtowns who aren't actually on the right track.this was a great success
or, alternately, an obvtown who nobody will listen to once they're dead
It's okay. It was foolish of me to think that scum meta that would apply in another gamestate would automatically apply here. I didn't communicate it effectively either.
I'll lick my wounds and reconsider my strategy for the next battle.
clearly if Kilga had let me ##check ##LEARN ROLE NAME AND ALSO BECOME IMMUNE TO IT like i tried to do on N3 then the game would totally have gone in town's favorInteresting. I probably would have let it go through, or I guess it would depend on how I wanted the role to work.
objectively the chance of scum Roleclopping us both were low. was sad because HW was scum on play :/That's why I said that one line about spec clears being lame in the graveyard. It's completely coincidental, so it kind of sucks for it to be such a big factor.
yeah i had that both here and in a concurrent town game that started shortly after on sf, which is why i mentioned wanting to stop playing after this.
also: dan and irc-px giving themselves back-pats about how my play was soooo scummy are being dumb as heck, you guys contributed to the town loss too. like, if you lose you lose. it's silly how whenever motktown loses they need to talk about how THEY knew who the scum were when you never see scum try to justify themselves after losing as scum.
tl;dr stop taking away from my gloating 8)
e: sorry if i'm being kind of an ass calling people out, but i dunno, it's just not fun to win a game and have people try to devalue your victory
Mitsuki: Rai was a-ok because he was obvious despite the weird content. Evident by how D2 went.
Really not sure why people have me down for Town MVP if I'm going to be totally honest. I was wrong on pushing Sky, wrong on pushing Dan, wrong on pushing PX and wrong on pushing Polly. The only scum I made a case against was BBM but I came very close to letting Serela scare me off that wagon onto Polly instead. The one thing I did right was save bofh which led to the creation of Conq the magnificent, which was really all based on him being bofh rather than a good read. Hell I am partially suspicious you guys are being sarcastic V: Seriously though, Conq for MVP.No one is being sarcastic. Conq got to replace in confirmed, you had to look townie from the start. You gave the town organization. Faulting your reads is meh because literally no one was reading the scum as scum until Day 3. I mean, you didn't hit scum but you were narrowing down the chaff so the scum could be found. I'm sorry that I'm not congratulating you on leading us to victory, but that part was out of your hands.
My point is that scum could take advantadge of what he did, not that he was scummy. (I suspected him, yeah, but that's a whole different matter)Mm, yeah, I'm just saying it could have been much worse.
Ps to BT: I don't like bagging on your play, I just like needling people I think are scum so they'll act crazy. The callback to GHW was just there and I had to take it okay::) I generally don't have a problem with this, actually. I mean, the scumbag had the gall to vote you, right? How dare they?
People should listen to dead townies more.This game wasn't a good example. Only, like, the Conq kill works here, and that was pretty forced. Yeah they should have listened to you though.
People should listen to dead townies more.
This. I didn't really like SB's lynch altogether because PoE lynching late in the game is lazy.The thing about saying SB was lynched via PoE is HE WAS CONFIRMED TOWN VIA PRIMS
I'm probably biased though, since I thought SB was obvtown and I was pretty convinced that Prims was scum by page 3.
yeah i had that both here and in a concurrent town game that started shortly after on sf, which is why i mentioned wanting to stop playing after this.
also: dan and irc-px giving themselves back-pats about how my play was soooo scummy are being dumb as heck, you guys contributed to the town loss too. like, if you lose you lose. it's silly how whenever motktown loses they need to talk about how THEY knew who the scum were when you never see scum try to justify themselves after losing as scum.
tl;dr stop taking away from my gloating 8)
e: sorry if i'm being kind of an ass calling people out, but i dunno, it's just not fun to win a game and have people try to devalue your victory
The thing about saying SB was lynched via PoE is HE WAS CONFIRMED TOWN VIA PRIMS
Edit: I also should have realized that not getting anything from my role meant that nothing was happening as opposed to me not using my role correctly wowPretty much. I didn't really know which one of you two was scum but I knew for sure it was either you or Prims.
Games are meant to be fun(http://i.imgur.com/MM7Myxb.jpg)
I already know I enjoy enjoying myself(http://i.imgur.com/KbNxzQL.gif)
Dormio, stop trolling the fun-having, starry-eyed newbie, he is not yet jaded and horrible like you are.
I <3 everyone I play mafia with, my heart is for everyone! <^_^>
fun fact, after Angel Beats I made a vow to ONLY EVER USE REFUGE IN AUDACITY AS TOWN to spite Pesco, so if anything im confirmed town on meta. :)Also fun fact, i actually did want to do this but then i started using refuge in audacity as scum again to be playing to my town meta
Good thing I'm not around anymore to let you ruin games any more than you already do.8)